Statsocial:
As Pastor Kenneth Hagin of blessed memory once said "when it comes to the issue of church finance there is a thin line between the Permissible and the Objectionable".

Meanwhile this Journalist went on a fault-finding mission and definitely when you go out to find fault you would definitenely find one. This is not to say there are no fraudsters out there fleecing people in the name of God...

I think it is high time that Religious organizations everywhere are mandated to give a complete and thorough financial review to members of the Church and the Public- I think with that, members can fully understand what their money is being used for... Church finances being clouded in secrecy does no one any good and it gives these ill-willing Atheists opportunity to exploit those controversies and derail some.


I also still believe that the Church expenditure and income which should be made completely open for all to review must FOREVER be Tax Exempt.

Acidosis:




Aside condemning any rich man with a black skin and licking any a$$ with a white scent, what else do you do with your time?

dalaman:
Africans don't understand how the world works, that's why no matter how educated we are we still act no differently from our illiterate brothers and sisters living in our remote villages because we believe the same way that they do. We are too superstitious and we hide and mask behind our various religious beliefs to further our childish and primitive superstitious beliefs. It doesn't matter if we are in Nigeria, UK, France, US, China etc. We just keep carrying out ridiculous superstitions where ever we go.

The whites find that hard to believe and swallow. A white man can not understand how God will make you a millionaire by simply praying to him, or cure you of cancer. If God cures people from cancer hospitals and their very expensive medical equipments will not exist. If praying to God, sowing seeds and paying tithes makes people rich then African christians will be the richest people on earth.

When I first went to Germany over a decade ago I was astonished to realize that the christians there don't believe in miraculous healings the way we do. The way Nigerian christians have discarded all the old testament laws (except tithing ) is the way they have discarded things like miracles and other magical beliefs that comes from the bible.

Imagine people living in UK holding childish beliefs that if they sow seeds, God will make them pass their exams. What kind of primitive and childish superstitious nonsense is that?

SheIsElle:

Definitely not Christianity, demon infested. The laugh doesn't even sound human. Am still trying to figure out what is happening.

donqx:
naija

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frosbel2:


Kenneth Hagin was a False Prophet and one of the founders of the false word of faith doctrine



No. British journalists are some of the best in the world and they would usually start an investigation based on revelations of financial imprudence and wild unsubstantiated claims of bogus healings by the fake and vile so-called men of God.



Members should never be compelled or coerced to give money based on the abuse of certain scriptural passages. People should give because they want to give and not because a scamming Pastor threatens them with a non-existent tithe curse.



Good, I agree but the church is not the numerous buildings you have scattered all over the land, the church is the people who are the temple of God. Therefore people are not obliged or mandated to contribute a kobo to any denomination, rather they can decide ( and rightly so ) to use this money to help the needy and poor around them including meeting the essential needs of their own families.

stagger:
These are nothing but lies.

Matthew Ashimolowo does not take a dime from KICC except a return ticket to Nigeria for summer ONCE A YEAR. He makes his money from book sales, agriculture (he owns the largest Ofada rice farm in Africa) and speaking engagements.

These useless Brits who came down to Benin and STOLE thousands of artefacts in 1897 cannot understand how a black man from Nigeria, former muslim turned Christian Pastor, can come to UK with a briefcase and become an outstanding success. It is beyond them.

Statsocial:
As Pastor Kenneth Hagin of blessed memory once said "when it comes to the issue of church finance there is a thin line between the Permissible and the Objectionable".

Meanwhile this Journalist went on a fault-finding mission and definitely when you go out to find fault you would definitenely find one. This is not to say there are no fraudsters out there fleecing people in the name of God...

I think it is high time that Religious organizations everywhere are mandated to give a complete and thorough financial review to members of the Church and the Public- I think with that, members can fully understand what their money is being used for... Church finances being clouded in secrecy does no one any good and it gives these ill-willing Atheists opportunity to exploit those controversies and derail some.


I also still believe that the Church expenditure and income which should be made completely open for all to review must FOREVER be Tax Exempt.

dalaman:
Africans don't understand how the world works, that's why no matter how educated we are we still act no differently from our illiterate brothers and sisters living in our remote villages because we believe the same way that they do. We are too superstitious and we hide and mask behind our various religious beliefs to further our childish and primitive superstitious beliefs. It doesn't matter if we are in Nigeria, UK, France, US, China etc. We just keep carrying out ridiculous superstitions where ever we go.

The whites find that hard to believe and swallow. A white man can not understand how God will make you a millionaire by simply praying to him, or cure you of cancer. If God cures people from cancer hospitals and their very expensive medical equipments will not exist. If praying to God, sowing seeds and paying tithes makes people rich then African christians will be the richest people on earth.

When I first went to Germany over a decade ago I was astonished to realize that the christians there don't believe in miraculous healings the way we do. The way Nigerian christians have discarded all the old testament laws (except tithing ) is the way they have discarded things like miracles and other magical beliefs that comes from the bible.

Imagine people living in UK holding childish beliefs that if they sow seeds, God will make them pass their exams. What kind of primitive and childish superstitious nonsense is that?

middlebelter:


The report is biased. The writer is painting the payment of tithe as if it were payment to Ashimolowo. Look, I am not a member of his Church, but we Christians should not continue to watch this people from other religions attack our Christian Faith. How is it their business if people pay tithes? Is it not Biblical? Is anybody forcing the writer and his pay masters to pay? As for Pastor Ashimolowo's luxury house, is the writer and his supporters aware of the number of books that this man has written and the volume of his investment? Even if he were using the Church's money will God fail to bring him to judgment?

It is not difficult to understand why UK is fast drifting into the hands of ISIS and Muslim Mayor's, but they expect to replicate the same obnoxious laws in Nigeria that will stiff the growth of Pentecostal movements?
My position is not a tacit support for misappropriation of tithe and offerings but I strongly believe that any body cheating by diverting tithes will have most severe punishment. I believe the God of the the Holy Bible, and the he won't fail to punish such people.

okoliexpress:
[b]you are a foo[/b]l big fool

frosbel2:
Most Nigerian Men of 'god' are shameless, unrepentant, THIEVES.

GallantGalaxy:
If you lived in the U.K. you will know that SUN newspaper is a racist anti black newspaper

Also a high percentage of KICC members are senior level professionals with high net worth and like KICC they grew with the church under the mentorship of the pastor.

You that is not a sheeple where has that gotten you so far. Engaging in online fights, Bado. Yahoo yahoo and the like.

My definition of a Niger is a Blackman who would discredit his own not from his own facts but because a white often racist says so.

GallantGalaxy:
Tell them oh. I started attending when he was in the tiny rented hall in dalston in the early 90s. When most attendees were students, early momo people and clerical staff all with little money no.

SUN did not see the days of struggle and hardship even to pay rented hall fees. Now dey come to devour. May God continue to shame them oh.

Those that know the man stood and continue to stand by him to the glory of God


This bad belle.

frosbel2:


Kenneth Hagin was a False Prophet and one of the founders of the false word of faith doctrine



No. British journalists are some of the best in the world and they would usually start an investigation based on revelations of financial imprudence and wild unsubstantiated claims of bogus healings by the fake and vile so-called men of God.



Members should never be compelled or coerced to give money based on the abuse of certain scriptural passages. People should give because they want to give and not because a scamming Pastor threatens them with a non-existent tithe curse.



Good, I agree but the church is not the numerous buildings you have scattered all over the land, the church is the people who are the temple of God. Therefore people are not obliged or mandated to contribute a kobo to any denomination, rather they can decide ( and rightly so ) to use this money to help the needy and poor around them including meeting the essential needs of their own families.

adepeter2027:

"ALL" and not even "MOST" - - - you're funny oo

Statsocial:
As Pastor Kenneth Hagin of blessed memory once said "when it comes to the issue of church finance there is a thin line between the Permissible and the Objectionable".

Meanwhile this Journalist went on a fault-finding mission and definitely when you go out to find fault you would definitenely find one. This is not to say there are no fraudsters out there fleecing people in the name of God...

I think it is high time that Religious organizations everywhere are mandated to give a complete and thorough financial review to members of the Church and the Public- I think with that, members can fully understand what their money is being used for... Church finances being clouded in secrecy does no one any good and it gives these ill-willing Atheists opportunity to exploit those controversies and derail some.


I also still believe that the Church expenditure and income which should be made completely open for all to review must FOREVER be Tax Exempt.

dalaman:
Africans don't understand how the world works, that's why no matter how educated we are we still act no differently from our illiterate brothers and sisters living in our remote villages because we believe the same way that they do. We are too superstitious and we hide and mask behind our various religious beliefs to further our childish and primitive superstitious beliefs. It doesn't matter if we are in Nigeria, UK, France, US, China etc. We just keep carrying out ridiculous superstitions where ever we go.

The whites find that hard to believe and swallow. A white man can not understand how God will make you a millionaire by simply praying to him, or cure you of cancer. If God cures people from cancer hospitals and their very expensive medical equipments will not exist. If praying to God, sowing seeds and paying tithes makes people rich then African christians will be the richest people on earth.

When I first went to Germany over a decade ago I was astonished to realize that the christians there don't believe in miraculous healings the way we do. The way Nigerian christians have discarded all the old testament laws (except tithing ) is the way they have discarded things like miracles and other magical beliefs that comes from the bible.

Imagine people living in UK holding childish beliefs that if they sow seeds, God will make them pass their exams. What kind of primitive and childish superstitious nonsense is that?

TheAlchemist:


Pastors now need to show more financial transparency, open their financial books for the public to see, but you and i know that will never happen!

jabolo:
Those in the congregation in the early 90's would have been perfectly placed to ride the good luck wave of economic empowerment that took place in the UK since and, of course, would naturally attribute their success to the church, and donate accordingly. So the Pastor grow rich on this wave. It's a game of numbers they play - the unfortunates don't count as the 'testimonies' draw in more punters.

One of such 'unfortunates' was my friend who also attended the church about the same time. He subsequently committed suicide owing to a long running psychological problem your church could not resolve.

The smart thing about this scam is that the message can also be adapted to places like Nigeria where there is widespread poverty. It is simply re-packaged as the way out of any difficulties. Again, the 'testimonies' are carefully chosen and the Pastors' opulent lifestyle/Private Jets etc serve as further adverts. Hidden behind all this is the raw statistic of the many suffering and unrewarded attendees.

You can't be educated and disagree with the notion that Nigeria should be a paradise on earth with the number of religious places proliferating in the place with their unrelenting prosperity messages.

It's not bad belle Chief, it is *shakes heads in disbelief*. Any one got a meme?

Jesse01:
he did not force people to come to his church or neither did he force his member to pay tithes and offerings did he?, so if he lives in a dollar million mansion or he's preying on his church members it dose not concer me his church members are not complaining ,so it none of my business.

RadicallyBlunt:

Are u a christian?

If you are, what denomination do u belong

SheIsElle:

What does my denomination have to do with what is happening on the video? Yes, I am a Christian.

buragidi:
The way you guys dry curse shows how deluded you are. You will even be cursing in Jesus name. What kind of religionreligion is This? Is obviously not Christianity. Jesus never curse anyone and anyone who curse in the name of Jesus is obviously the devil.

RadicallyBlunt:

It has everything to do with it. You as a christian believed its demonic

Very many other Christians don't. Simple!

Achorise:
Most people here are talking out of poverty, anguish and jealousy.

Take a look @ where some of the great white and black pastors in Europe and America who has mega churches live, and the car the driver
The white give more, and the pastors live in good and better housses.
Most of these pastors started this churches in the 70s, when some of our fathers where busy buying 504 and picck up vans, marrying and partying, clubbing and building a career for themselves.

How many of them, our parents of then would have answered the call of God, if God had called them, some blatantly refused because being a pastor was derogatory, shameful, and for nobody's and uneducated.

But some of these pastors passed through hell, avoided worldly pleasures, went round preaching in remote villages.
some of their members were people who they impacted over the years with care and love, teaching principles of wealth, and those people in turn become financial giants can give these pastors anything without demands