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Re: RCCG "Open Heaven": Daddy Freeze Reacts To Ban On Unauthorized Publication by imustsaymymindo: 10:05pm On Jan 08, 2018
tonytony208:


How will unauthorized sharing of God's Word lead to misuse?

Good question. You see what usually happens to those free books and pamphlets shared by religious bodies? It ends up most times as akara wrapping paper.

The thing is the price attached to it gives it value, the ban on unauthorize distribution also gives it more value. And the greater the value, the more the user thinks twice before its misuse.
Re: RCCG "Open Heaven": Daddy Freeze Reacts To Ban On Unauthorized Publication by TribesNG: 10:06pm On Jan 08, 2018
Justbright:




Just hear urself talk....there is now an illegal way of spreading d gospel?...I guess adeboye pays for d Bible verses he quoted in d said book....wt pple like u,dis generation is done for

Did you buy your Bible for free? (that's even if you have a bible) Or did the Publishers pay for the words they used in the book?

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Re: RCCG "Open Heaven": Daddy Freeze Reacts To Ban On Unauthorized Publication by Idecievedyou(m): 10:07pm On Jan 08, 2018
[right][/right]when you work for God you will never lack finance to do the work free for the masses....except it's mixed with your feelings...Go yee into the world SELL the gospel to every creation..
Re: RCCG "Open Heaven": Daddy Freeze Reacts To Ban On Unauthorized Publication by Ilekokonit: 10:08pm On Jan 08, 2018
So it is now intellectual capital income that a pastor is trying to protect when people "thought" he gets inspiration from God ??

Or is Jesus no longer the Author and Finisher of our Faith ??

And yet these charlartans have the nerve to stand on the pulpit and call church members "stingy devils" if they are reluctant to part with their hard earned money.

People have been copying and pasting contents of the bible (both offline and online) to edify others since time immemorial and this hasn't reduced the followership of the bible.

But then again the bible had no original profit motive of the multiplier effect of "X Naira multiplied by Y followers"

Even if Daddy Freeze had ulterior motives for tackling Pastorpreneurs, he will get his comeuppance eventually but at the moment, he is the only one who is putting these charlartans on their toes.

Maybe, (just maybe) the pressure from Daddy Freeze will make these heartless conmen and women turn a new leaf and stop Robbing the poor which they currently are doing and they still have the gall to turn around and accuse the same poor they are fleecing of Robbing God if they dare use some of their tithes to feed their hungry children.

Seems like the pressure from Daddy Freeze is beginning to hit them in their pockets hence the above Fund Consolidation Directive in the original post.

A few days ago Bishop Oyedepo said his plan for a 100,000 seater Auditorium / Cathedral / Stadium has been put on hold pending "clear directions" from God ??

Was God's directions not clear enough the first time

We Would Soon Be Richer Than IMF And Paris Club" - Bishop Oyedepo
https://www.nairaland.com/3916988/soon-richer-than-imf-paris

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Re: RCCG "Open Heaven": Daddy Freeze Reacts To Ban On Unauthorized Publication by Nobody: 10:09pm On Jan 08, 2018
Since a person now needs permission to share RCCG "Open Heavens" then RCCG should also take permission to Sing Sinach, Kirk Franklin, Tope Alabi etc songs during Service. I love RCCG dearly but this was a real blunder. Pls come out and denounce that Memo!

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Re: RCCG "Open Heaven": Daddy Freeze Reacts To Ban On Unauthorized Publication by Pascal181: 10:09pm On Jan 08, 2018
For d 1st time I seem to be on dsame page with daddy freeze .I reacted to d memo questioning why d open heaven should not be shared on whatsapp nd was removed from d group. Is d primary aim not to evangelize to lost souls?

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Re: RCCG "Open Heaven": Daddy Freeze Reacts To Ban On Unauthorized Publication by Nobody: 10:09pm On Jan 08, 2018
Pascal181:
For d 1st time I seem to be on dsame page with daddy freeze .I reacted to d memo questioning why d open heaven should not be shared on whatsapp nd was removed from d group. Is d primary aim not to evangelize to lost souls?
As in ehn
Re: RCCG "Open Heaven": Daddy Freeze Reacts To Ban On Unauthorized Publication by Fixed: 10:10pm On Jan 08, 2018
I thought Freeze said Pastor Adeboye is a businessman? So how come the Open Heaven written by the 'businessman' is now the "Word of God" that must be freely shared. He only ended up turning logic on its head.

This guy is just a confused being and is purely on an attack mission. He started with no tithing, yet he wants materials distributed free of charge; is the church going to turn paper to money or tell the printing press staff to work free of charge? At 3 employees per branch of rccg, the church will be paying salaries of not less than 100,000 staff!

There is no book reproduced in any form, even Gideon bibles and other free materials, without getting the permission of the author, and that is pretty much what the memo says.

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Re: RCCG "Open Heaven": Daddy Freeze Reacts To Ban On Unauthorized Publication by obailala(m): 10:11pm On Jan 08, 2018
Freeze should be careful not to overstep boundaries into irrelevant territories. There's a thin line between being an objective critic and a hater who just feels a compulsion to criticise everything. I see nothing wrong with religious organisations selling religious literature (for profit) if they so wish. Besides, the sale of some of these materials is actually the main income earner of the authors besides any gifts they receive from their followers.

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Re: RCCG "Open Heaven": Daddy Freeze Reacts To Ban On Unauthorized Publication by Reinvented: 10:13pm On Jan 08, 2018
The news or noise here would have been louder if anyone complaining sought permission and they were denied for no reason.
I have been receiving an Open Heavens devotional messages on Whatsapp from a brother, but rather than present it verbatim, he adds addendum. To me, such needs to be moderated.

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Re: RCCG "Open Heaven": Daddy Freeze Reacts To Ban On Unauthorized Publication by coputa(m): 10:14pm On Jan 08, 2018
kosisoOkafor:
They will use your urine to pay staffs, print open heaven and transport it to different locations. Don't be stupid.
What are they using the tithes,offerings,first fruits,sacrificial givings and seed sowing to do,to feed your family,can't they use it to fund the publication

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Re: RCCG "Open Heaven": Daddy Freeze Reacts To Ban On Unauthorized Publication by jonnytad(m): 10:18pm On Jan 08, 2018
Just leave us alone.... Let God be the judge of the pastors.
Re: RCCG "Open Heaven": Daddy Freeze Reacts To Ban On Unauthorized Publication by seguno2: 10:21pm On Jan 08, 2018
ekensi01:
Lack of vision.
What's this guys plan?
All he knows is to criticize people what has he done?

Have you heard of film critics?
Or book critics?
What about arts critics?
Oga, please broaden your knowledge and understanding of how the world works and stop embarrassing yourself in public while thinking that you are saying something sensible.

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Re: RCCG "Open Heaven": Daddy Freeze Reacts To Ban On Unauthorized Publication by Nobody: 10:23pm On Jan 08, 2018
Freeze or frozen should stop making nothing out of nothing


Check my siggy
Re: RCCG "Open Heaven": Daddy Freeze Reacts To Ban On Unauthorized Publication by hayoholla(m): 10:23pm On Jan 08, 2018
stinggy:
Freeze, you've made sense thus far, but on this, no matter how we put it, Copyright theft and similar crimes are very serious offences that should never be allowed in any form it comes angry


if "copyright theft" should apply to religious publications and the bible preaches the spreading of the gospel without any string attached, and churches in nigeria still goes ahead and make gains on religious publications, I wonder whats stopping them from paying tax then!

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Re: RCCG "Open Heaven": Daddy Freeze Reacts To Ban On Unauthorized Publication by Basfaq(m): 10:23pm On Jan 08, 2018
Charlesdock:
Why can't they let it circulate since it contain God's words. If people are blessed by it, they will sow back into the church.
At first who own's the money for publication,isn't the congregation that donated the money.so,the same people can not benefit from their sweat again even not for free,this is a purely day light rubbery.

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Re: RCCG "Open Heaven": Daddy Freeze Reacts To Ban On Unauthorized Publication by bloodofthelamb(m): 10:25pm On Jan 08, 2018
TribesNG:

Spreading the word of God through illegal means? are you stupid?

See the very words of paul Philippians 1:18- What then? notwithstanding, every way, whether in pretence, or in truth, Christ is preached; and I therein do rejoice,yea, and will rejoice.

We ought to rejoice like Apostle Paul did when JESUS is being preached in whatever way...

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Re: RCCG "Open Heaven": Daddy Freeze Reacts To Ban On Unauthorized Publication by XTLikeNat777: 10:26pm On Jan 08, 2018
sweettease:
Is it no longer about spreading the gospel or is there something I don't understand?


Black is beautiful...
Re: RCCG "Open Heaven": Daddy Freeze Reacts To Ban On Unauthorized Publication by Justbright(m): 10:31pm On Jan 08, 2018
TribesNG:


Did you buy your Bible for free? (that's even if you have a bible) Or did the Publishers pay for the words they used in the book?


Uve not answered my question...dose he pay for d Bible verses he quoted in his books or take permission from d KJV or whatever translation he's quoting....its obvious u are out do defend dis act of callousness and profiteering.. Ride on

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Re: RCCG "Open Heaven": Daddy Freeze Reacts To Ban On Unauthorized Publication by bloodofthelamb(m): 10:32pm On Jan 08, 2018
hayoholla:



if "copyright theft" should apply to religious publications and the bible preaches the spreading of the gospel without any string attached, and churches in nigeria still goes ahead and make gains on religious publications, I wonder whats stopping them from paying tax then!

Word
Re: RCCG "Open Heaven": Daddy Freeze Reacts To Ban On Unauthorized Publication by BRATISLAVA: 10:36pm On Jan 08, 2018
Charlesdock:
Why can't they let it circulate since it contain God's words. If people are blessed by it, they will sow back into the church.

They should regulate its sale.

Some unscrupulous individuals resell this literature at a higher price in order to make a profit. The church sells at a profit to be able to keep producing more copies, but these other people who hawk it are a menace.
Re: RCCG "Open Heaven": Daddy Freeze Reacts To Ban On Unauthorized Publication by bejeria101(m): 10:38pm On Jan 08, 2018
ekensi01:
Lack of vision.
What's this guys plan? All he knows is to criticize people what has he done?
Bought jamb form for somebody and made it public! #daddyfridge
Re: RCCG "Open Heaven": Daddy Freeze Reacts To Ban On Unauthorized Publication by Wole4real: 10:42pm On Jan 08, 2018
I seriously think that this guy should just shut his mouth for once cos all he knows to do his to criticized and nothing more yet all the fools like him still support him but I pity for him....
Re: RCCG "Open Heaven": Daddy Freeze Reacts To Ban On Unauthorized Publication by BRATISLAVA: 10:43pm On Jan 08, 2018
Statsocial:
Since a person now needs permission to share RCCG "Open Heavens" then RCCG should also take permission to Sing Sinach, Kirk Franklin, Tope Alabi etc songs during Service. I love RCCG dearly but this was a real blunder. Pls come out and denounce that Memo!

There's nothing wrong with the permission.

It's intellectual property.

Some people cull it, rename and resell it at exorbitant prices. That's blatant plagiarism. There are others who just resell it at wild prices, making it look as though it is the church who sell it at such a price.

If the devotional is made available on WhatsApp, what will happen to all the hard copies they have paid the publisher for?

It goes beyond it seeming like a decision that is against the grain of Christianity. After all, you bought your Bible, didn't you? And if you didn't, someone paid for it. Nothing is free.
Re: RCCG "Open Heaven": Daddy Freeze Reacts To Ban On Unauthorized Publication by nicemuyoo: 10:43pm On Jan 08, 2018
The church should allow free sharing of devotionals so far it's not for monetary gains. 
This clarifies and reflects the spirit behind the church's efforts of publishing such devotional- to spread the gospel or otherwise for monetary gains 
When the disciples saw a man preaching, praying and healing people in Yashua's name they try to stop him and informed yahshua about it, yahshua answers leave him alone, he is helping to spread the gospel, he is not an enemy. 
MARK 9:38-40
38“Teacher,” said John, “we saw someone driving out demons in your name and we told him to stop, because he was not one of us.”

39“Do not stop him,” Jesus said. “For no one who does a miracle in my name can in the next moment say anything bad about me, 40for whoever is not against us is for us.

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Re: RCCG "Open Heaven": Daddy Freeze Reacts To Ban On Unauthorized Publication by Nobody: 10:44pm On Jan 08, 2018
TribesNG:


Did you buy your Bible for free? (that's even if you have a bible) Or did the Publishers pay for the words they used in the book?
I think the church should have an app on play store where it can be published.
Re: RCCG "Open Heaven": Daddy Freeze Reacts To Ban On Unauthorized Publication by Ilekokonit: 10:50pm On Jan 08, 2018
maryjames9:
I have said it and will continue to say it. Pastors are pure Business Men. They would continue to prey and profit from the ignorance, fear of people.

Interesting15:

You mean all the pastors in the world?

All Prophets And Priests Practice Deceit And Are Greedy According To The Bible

Jeremiah 6:13 (NIV) - From the least to the greatest, all are greedy for gain; prophets and priests alike, all practice deceit.

2 Peter 2:3 - In their greed these teachers will exploit you with fabricated stories.

1 Timothy 6:4 - People of corrupt mind, who have been robbed of the truth and who think that godliness is a means to financial gain.

Proverbs 22:16 - One who oppresses the poor to increase his wealth and one who gives gifts to the rich—both come to poverty.

1 Peter 5:2 - Be shepherds of God’s flock that is under your care, watching over them—not because you must, but because you are willing, as God wants you to be; not pursuing dishonest gain, but eager to serve;

Jeremiah 17:5 - Cursed is the one who trusts in man, who draws strength from mere flesh.v
Re: RCCG "Open Heaven": Daddy Freeze Reacts To Ban On Unauthorized Publication by mykeltee: 10:51pm On Jan 08, 2018
this one weak me walahi even as a member

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Re: RCCG "Open Heaven": Daddy Freeze Reacts To Ban On Unauthorized Publication by tonytony208(m): 10:58pm On Jan 08, 2018
imustsaymymindo:


Good question. You see what usually happens to those free books and pamphlets shared by religious bodies? It ends up most times as akara wrapping paper.

The thing is the price attached to it gives it value, the ban on unauthorize distribution also gives it more value. And the greater the value, the more the user thinks twice before its misuse.

We get The Gideon Bible free and we don't misuse it. Oga, your analysis doesn't have any association with the word of God. And paying money on it is not even an assurance that it won't be used to exchange kulikuli. I still remember that those publications do expire. After they expire, how do they differ from guguru papers?

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Re: RCCG "Open Heaven": Daddy Freeze Reacts To Ban On Unauthorized Publication by ayo4dworld(m): 11:00pm On Jan 08, 2018
Do you know that the production and sales of this book is what is putting food on the table if many families monthly. Have you ever thought about how some people would get relieved of their jobs if sharing of the devotional continues Cos the turnout of people buying will be so low because they are already getting for free through a medium
Re: RCCG "Open Heaven": Daddy Freeze Reacts To Ban On Unauthorized Publication by Nobody: 11:00pm On Jan 08, 2018
Flexherbal:
Daddy Freeze known for this freetTheSheeple movement, just posted this on his Instagram page.

What is calling for attention is the information on the third paragraph of the memo, below.

So, He is asking if the memo is actually from Redeemed Christian Church Of God.





https://www.instagram.com/p/Bdr6Afwnufx/

Wyoming Sent Sent
my illuminati pastor freeze ever heard of plagiarism? Is that what you encourage Christians to be doing. Try it abroad for just one day and see yourself
Re: RCCG "Open Heaven": Daddy Freeze Reacts To Ban On Unauthorized Publication by delpee(f): 11:16pm On Jan 08, 2018
Hmmm! This noise about Churches everyday....so it happened that Christianity was wiped out in Turkey.

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