hahn:


Lol

A comforting lie

budaatum:
Buda's Perspective

So, you took your last breath. You don't exist as you did anymore. No more waking up to a beautiful new day, or seeing and talking to those who love you or those you hate. No more posting on social media, no going to work or paying bills or enjoying food or having sex. Unless someone knows you, we wouldn't even know you are dead for how many have you discoursed with on here but do so no more. We know nought of them, whether dead or alive.

Dust, basically, thou art, and dust you will become, food for worms and fertiliser at best, on the day you die, and nothing else.

Hard to take in, I'm absolutely certain. So post a consolation, an alternate reality.

What would happen after you're dead?

hahn:
DO you have video evidence of this?

hahn:
Have you witnessed it?

hahn:
Can you provide a witness?

hahn:
You didn't answer the question

sonofluc1fer:
Weird that one day, my balls and eyes will be dinner for some slimy beings. Weird.

Hope my death is quick, however it comes. Those slow, long ones like cancer.... eeeiisshh..

After death, I'll be gone. A closed chapter. Hopefully I do something great before I go.

Makes life feel kinda pointless tbh.

terrezo2002:

Don't you desire a life of eternity after death?

sonofluc1fer:
Weird that one day, my balls and eyes will be dinner for some slimy beings. Weird.

Hope my death is quick, however it comes. Those slow, long ones like cancer.... eeeiisshh..

After death, I'll be gone. A closed chapter. Hopefully I do something great before I go.

Makes life feel kinda pointless tbh.

terrezo2002:
Don't you desire a life of eternity after death?

dalaman:
What happens when you die? You remain dead. That we know for a fact, any other thing proposed is nothing but conjecture.

hopefulLandlord:


So you're saying the goats and chickens being killed everyday have their lives ended just like that?

You're saying those goats won't stand in front of goat god and give account of how they lived their lives to the goat god?

You're saying when chickens die, they stay dead? I hope you know according to the "Chicken Holy Revelation" which the chicken god wrote in the chickens' hearts that after they die they stand before chicken god on the day if judgement to give account of their lives and either go into the oven or go into paradise where they'll enjoy chicken feeds forever and ever while praising the chicken god?

So you're telling me the chicken that breaks and sucks the juice of the eggs she shat out hereby committing chicken abortion won't face retribution after its dead?

This is why I call atheists fools!

MuttleyLaff:
No

First answer, No
second answer, Yes

Yes

I have, now

paxonel:

The bible says it and we believe,
What's your source of believing that it's a lie?
You have none

hahn:


The bible is not a reliable source of information so it is a lie

ichommy:


Clown.

hahn:
Then why are you supporting something you have no evidence of?

hahn:
Explain please

hahn:
Who is your witness?

hahn:
More questions have risen

danvon:
Our life is like water if we have enough light and heat we vapourize upwards

danvon:
but if we lose the heat we condense downwards

hahn:


The bible is not a reliable source of information so it is a lie

hahn:


Where have you been nigu?!

MuttleyLaff:
I can with the same way I support you have a brain without no evidence of it

I cant, until you explain what you mean by:
"DO you have video evidence of this? Have you witnessed it?"

Dead

"The mocker seeks wisdom and finds none,
but knowledge comes easily to the discerning"
- Proverbs 14:6

Always asking more questions, but never able to come to the knowledge of the truth

soliq55:



There is a difference between dying and being dead. Dying is not a state of death but the pathway to the state of being dead. Unforunately, nobody knows definitively what happens when humans are in the state of being dead but dying can actually be observed and even quantified physiologically.

During the process of dying, depending on the severity and cause, the organs usually shut down one by one. It is not uncommon to hallucinate when the brain is in the process of shutting down. A common variable to to stories about people seeing heaven, God, Jesus, Allah and hell when they are in the process of dying is that it is culturally specific. For instance, a Yoruba man sees a Jesus that is black man wearing agabada speaking Yoruba, a white man sees Jesus in heaven wearing suit and tie. And so on.

These near death experiences are usually our brain repacking the data in our subconscious mind to give us images and even stories. Just because these pictures can be very vivid does not mean its true. It is the power of our unconscious mind.

The billion dollar advertisement industry are well aware of the power of the conscious and tap into this to make their fortune. For example, when you go to the grocery store, where I live there could be up to 20 different brands of cereal. Have you ever stopped and ask why you picked the one you chose instead of the other perfectly good brands of the same cereal within the same price range? Your subconcious mind told you to do so. It may be due to an advert of that cereal you've seen as far back as when you were 3 years old that affects your decision to chose it.

budaatum:

So, after one is done dying and is now dead, what happens then?

hahn:
We can do and exray or even smash your head with a baseball stick to see your brain which is unlike the self contradicting book of Jewish myths and it's god that cannot be proven by any means other than "belief"

hahn:
Do you have a video of heaven?

hahn:
So how were you able to obtain the testimony from this "witness" of yours?

hahn:
Seriously, bringing up a bible verse during an argument is simply ridiculous

hahn:
What you mean to say is I have still refused to believe

MuttleyLaff:
You getting personal, doesnt change a thing

Straw man.

What testimony?
Whose witness?
Which ""witness" of your"?

When did the question spree turn and become an argument?

You can read whatever you like into it

hahn:
When you answered my first post by saying "I could but then you'd have to be dead" that was not taking it personal, right?

hahn:
It is a serious question. If your heaven exists at least you should have a video of it. After all these years no Christian has been able to come up with video of the highest price of heaven?

hahn:
Is this turning into a circus or what? You said you have a witness and I asked how you got the testimony and you are busy making fun of yourself

hahn:
No problem. Bring up the bible in your discussion again and I will quote Harry Potter/spiderman so at least I know we are on the same level

hahn:
Boring.

MuttleyLaff:
SMH. Are you the last person to know that you'd have to be dead for me to provide you with a dead witness you've asked to see?

Have you read heaven mentioned on this thread except by you?

Keep on making things up.
Reproduce here where I said I had a witness.
If you can't, then retract your remark, apologise or shut up

I would like the
Harry Potter/spiderman edition and page numbers for my references and cross checkings

Where is that PMB cartoon boxing a shadow

butterflyl1on:


I thought you said you were more focused on what happens when one is dead and not after. Are you changing your stance?

budaatum:

I am responding to you because I think you are being sincere so please pay attention. Do note that I am not requiring that you agree, just that you understand. And no, I am not offended. I will let you know if I become offended.[/i]

It's good you put it that way ' In your opinion'. So, in your opinion can you explain SLEEP?

What in your opinion triggers dreams? Do you as an atheist dream? From an atheist stand point, how will you explain dreams?

In your opinion, when one dies, it ends there. Have you seriously considered that dead could be like dreaming?
If you say dreaming is the projection of thoughts, or the preoccupation of a man's mind, How will you explain the fact that I personally dream things before they happen? Such events had never happened, but i will dream it, days after it will happen.

Right now, i had a dream, and based on the antecedents of the past, am inclined to wait out its manifestation,and it laways happens. What in your opinion is reslinsible for that?

budaatum:

Can you see from the above why the question I asked
(What Happens When You're Dead?), is the question I would ask? And that if I had thought of, and asked the question you say I should have asked (What happens after you are dead?), it would have only been with some intention in mind?

As an atheist whose opinion is, nothing happens after dead, i'd expect that that question should not arise at all. Whether when or After should not be a concern to to at all. Why shd it matter? If all what happens is nothing, then why ask it at all?

For, If i were a New Ager who believes i will come back as either a flower of an Ant, after i die, It will be so stupid of me to ask 'What happens when i die?

The only way this quesrion will make sense is when you direct it to the living to whom you will leave behind here. When you are dead, how will they handle what you had toiled and stweated for?

When you die, how will men mourn you? When you die, what you be remembered by?
It's only in this sense will the question of 'When you die' will make sense.
But to talk of YOU THE DESEASED, as athesit, nothing will happen when you die.

But, be 10000% sure you are right about it, because as your conscent wasn't sort if you wanted to come to earth as human instead of a Cat, as your consent wasn't sort if you wanted to be male or female, black or white, tall or short. You weren't asked if you'd want the folks who birthed you to be your parents. You didn't choose to be a Nigerian or to come from the tribe you came from. All these were chosen for you.

You will also not be enquired of if you'd want to die when the time comes. Just as a decision was made for you to come here, a decision will some day be made for you to exit here, SO, AS AN ATHEIST, BE SURE THAT WHEN THAT TIME COMES, there'll be nothing waiting for you yonder.

[quote author=budaatum post=65296569]
Do note that I have liked every response, even those that oppose my own view. And I have not taken to arguing that anyone's opinion is incorrect. I have not died yet you see. And no one has died and returned to tell if there is an after death, least not as far as has convinced me yet.

budaatum:

I am responding to you because I think you are being sincere so please pay attention. Do note that I am not requiring that you agree, just that you understand. And no, I am not offended. I will let you know if I become offended.[/i]

budaatum:

As an atheist, when a person dies, it is my opinion that that is it. There is no after, according to my own opinion.

It's good you put it that way ' In your opinion'. So, in your opinion can you explain SLEEP?

What in your opinion triggers dreams? Do you as an atheist dream? From an atheist stand point, how will you explain dreams?

In your opinion, when one dies, it ends there. Have you seriously considered that dead could be like dreaming?
If you say dreaming is the projection of thoughts, or the preoccupation of a man's mind, How will you explain the fact that I personally dream things before they happen? Such events had never happened, but i will dream it, days after it will happen.

Right now, i had a dream, and based on the antecedents of the past, am inclined to wait out its manifestation,and it laways happens. What in your opinion is reslinsible for that?

[quote author=budaatum post=65296569]
Can you see from the above why the question I asked
(What Happens When You're Dead?), is the question I would ask? And that if I had thought of, and asked the question you say I should have asked (What happens after you are dead?), it would have only been with some intention in mind?

As an atheist whose opinion is, nothing happens after dead, i'd expect that that question should not arise at all. Whether when or After should not be a concern to to at all. Why shd it matter? If all what happens is nothing, then why ask it at all?

For, If i were a New Ager who believes i will come back as either a flower of an Ant, after i die, It will be so stupid of me to ask 'What happens when i die?

The only way this quesrion will make sense is when you direct it to the living to whom you will leave behind here. When you are dead, how will they handle what you had toiled and stweated for?

When you die, how will men mourn you? When you die, what you be remembered by?
It's only in this sense will the question of 'When you die' will make sense.
But to talk of YOU THE DESEASED, as athesit, nothing will happen when you die.

But, be 10000% sure you are right about it, because as your conscent wasn't sort if you wanted to come to earth as human instead of a Cat, as your consent wasn't sort if you wanted to be male or female, black or white, tall or short. You weren't asked if you'd want the folks who birthed you to be your parents. You didn't choose to be a Nigerian or to come from the tribe you came from. All these were chosen for you.

You will also not be enquired of if you'd want to die when the time comes. Just as a decision was made for you to come here, a decision will some day be made for you to exit here, SO, AS AN ATHEIST, BE SURE THAT WHEN THAT TIME COMES, there'll be nothing waiting for you yonder.

[quote author=budaatum post=65296569]
Do note that I have liked every response, even those that oppose my own view. And I have not taken to arguing that anyone's opinion is incorrect. I have not died yet you see. And no one has died and returned to tell if there is an after death, least not as far as has convinced me yet.

hahn:

Can you provide a witness?