If the imam says one tasleem, is it permissible for me to say two tasleems? Please note that the Academic Council of Morocco approves of one tasleem in all mosques?
Published Date: 2014-10-12

Praise be to Allah.

The imam should not limit it to only one tasleem at the end of the prayer, because the second tasleem is prescribed and doing it is preferable. In fact Imam Ahmad and some of the Maalikis are of the view that it is obligatory, and that the prayer is not valid without it. However the majority of scholars are of the view that the second tasleem is Sunnah and mustahabb (encouraged).

According to the view of the majority, limiting it to one tasleem does not render the prayer invalid.

If the imam says one tasleem, there is nothing wrong with the one who is praying behind him saying the second tasleem, because doing that is more complete and is more on the safe side, and it avoids an area in which there is a scholarly difference of opinion.

The well-known view of the madhhab of Imam Maalik is that the one who is praying behind the imam should say two tasleems, as will be explained below.

An-Nawawi (may Allah have mercy on him) said in al-Majmoo‘ (3/462): The correct view according to our madhhab is that what is preferred is to say two tasleems. This is the view of the majority of scholars among the Sahaabah and Taabi‘een, and those who came after them. This was narrated by at-Tirmidhi, al-Qaadi Abu’t-Tayyib and others from the majority of scholars. It was also narrated by Ibn al-Mundhir from Abu Bakr as-Siddeeq, ‘Ali ibn Abi Taalib, Ibn Mas‘ood, ‘Ammaar ibn Yaasir, and Naafi‘ ibn ‘Abd al-Haarith (may Allah be pleased with them). It was also narrated from the Taabi‘een ‘Ata’ ibn Abi Rabaah, ‘Alqamah, and Abu ‘Abd ar-Rahmaan as-Sulami; and from ath-Thawri, Ahmad, Ishaaq, Abu Thawr and ashaab ar-ra’y.

Some scholars said that the worshipper should say one tasleem. This was the view of Ibn ‘Umar, Anas, Salamah ibn al-Akwa‘ and ‘Aa’ishah (may Allah be pleased with them), as well as al-Hasan, Ibn Sireen, ‘Umar ibn ‘Abd al-‘Azeez, Maalik and al-Awzaa‘i. Ibn al-Mundhir said: ‘Ammaar ibn Abi ‘Ammaar said: In the mosque of the Ansaar they used to say two tasleems and in the mosque of the Muhaajireen they used to say one tasleem. Ibn al-Mundhir said: I favour the former.

Then an-Nawawi said: Our view is that what is obligatory is one tasleem, and the second is not obligatory. This was the view of the majority of scholars, or all of them. Ibn al-Mundhir said: The scholars are unanimously agreed that the prayer of one who limits it to one tasleem is valid. At-Tahhaawi, al-Qaadi Abu’t-Tayyib and others narrated from al-Hasan ibn Saalih that he regarded both tasleems as obligatory. This was also narrated from Ahmad, and was the view of some of the companions of Maalik.

End quote.

Ibn Qudaamah (may Allah have mercy on him) said: It is prescribed to say two tasleems, right and left.

That is because of the report narrated by Ibn Mas‘ood (may Allah be pleased with him) who said: I saw the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) saying the tasleem, (turning his head) until the whiteness of his cheek could be seen, to the right and to the left. It was narrated from Jaabir ibn Samurah (may Allah be pleased with him) that the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) said: “It is sufficient for one of you to place his hand on his thigh, then say salaam to his brother on his right and on his left.” Narrated by Muslim. According to another version of the hadeeth of Ibn Mas‘ood: The Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) used to say the tasleem to his right: ‘As-salaamu ‘alaykum wa rahmat-Allah’ and to his left: ‘As-salaamu ‘alaykum wa rahmat-Allah.’ At-Tirmidhi said: The hadeeth of Ibn Mas‘ood is a saheeh hasan hadeeth.

End quote from al-Mughni (1/323).

The view of Imam Maalik, as it says in Mawaahib al-Jaleel (1/526) is that the worshipper should say three tasleems: the first to his right, to conclude and exit his prayer, the second, which he should intend as a greeting to the imam, and the third, which he should intend as a greeting to those who are on his left. This view was rejected by al-Qaadi Abu Bakr ibn al-‘Arabi (may Allah have mercy on him), who favoured the view that the second tasleem should be intended as a greeting to both the imam and the other worshippers, and the third is a bid‘ah (innovation). He (may Allah have mercy on him) said: He should say two tasleems: one to his right which he should intend to conclude and exit the prayer, and the second to his left which he should intend as a greeting to the imam and congregation. The third he should avoid, because it is a bid‘ah (innovation), that was not proven from the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) or the Sahaabah.

End quote from Mawaahib al-Jaleel.

To sum up: What is encouraged (mustahabb) is for the worshipper to say two tasleems, whether he is the imam or praying behind an imam, and if the imam limits it to one tasleem, it is encouraged for the worshipper who is praying behind him to say two tasleems, one to his right and the second to his left.

And Allah knows best.

Shafiiimran99:
If the imam says one tasleem, is it permissible for me to say two tasleems? Please note that the Academic Council of Morocco approves of one tasleem in all mosques?
Published Date: 2014-10-12

Praise be to Allah.

The imam should not limit it to only one tasleem at the end of the prayer, because the second tasleem is prescribed and doing it is preferable. In fact Imam Ahmad and some of the Maalikis are of the view that it is obligatory, and that the prayer is not valid without it. However the majority of scholars are of the view that the second tasleem is Sunnah and mustahabb (encouraged).

According to the view of the majority, limiting it to one tasleem does not render the prayer invalid.

If the imam says one tasleem, there is nothing wrong with the one who is praying behind him saying the second tasleem, because doing that is more complete and is more on the safe side, and it avoids an area in which there is a scholarly difference of opinion.

The well-known view of the madhhab of Imam Maalik is that the one who is praying behind the imam should say two tasleems, as will be explained below.

An-Nawawi (may Allah have mercy on him) said in al-Majmoo‘ (3/462): The correct view according to our madhhab is that what is preferred is to say two tasleems. This is the view of the majority of scholars among the Sahaabah and Taabi‘een, and those who came after them. This was narrated by at-Tirmidhi, al-Qaadi Abu’t-Tayyib and others from the majority of scholars. It was also narrated by Ibn al-Mundhir from Abu Bakr as-Siddeeq, ‘Ali ibn Abi Taalib, Ibn Mas‘ood, ‘Ammaar ibn Yaasir, and Naafi‘ ibn ‘Abd al-Haarith (may Allah be pleased with them). It was also narrated from the Taabi‘een ‘Ata’ ibn Abi Rabaah, ‘Alqamah, and Abu ‘Abd ar-Rahmaan as-Sulami; and from ath-Thawri, Ahmad, Ishaaq, Abu Thawr and ashaab ar-ra’y.

Some scholars said that the worshipper should say one tasleem. This was the view of Ibn ‘Umar, Anas, Salamah ibn al-Akwa‘ and ‘Aa’ishah (may Allah be pleased with them), as well as al-Hasan, Ibn Sireen, ‘Umar ibn ‘Abd al-‘Azeez, Maalik and al-Awzaa‘i. Ibn al-Mundhir said: ‘Ammaar ibn Abi ‘Ammaar said: In the mosque of the Ansaar they used to say two tasleems and in the mosque of the Muhaajireen they used to say one tasleem. Ibn al-Mundhir said: I favour the former.

Then an-Nawawi said: Our view is that what is obligatory is one tasleem, and the second is not obligatory. This was the view of the majority of scholars, or all of them. Ibn al-Mundhir said: The scholars are unanimously agreed that the prayer of one who limits it to one tasleem is valid. At-Tahhaawi, al-Qaadi Abu’t-Tayyib and others narrated from al-Hasan ibn Saalih that he regarded both tasleems as obligatory. This was also narrated from Ahmad, and was the view of some of the companions of Maalik.

End quote.

Ibn Qudaamah (may Allah have mercy on him) said: It is prescribed to say two tasleems, right and left.

That is because of the report narrated by Ibn Mas‘ood (may Allah be pleased with him) who said: I saw the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) saying the tasleem, (turning his head) until the whiteness of his cheek could be seen, to the right and to the left. It was narrated from Jaabir ibn Samurah (may Allah be pleased with him) that the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) said: “It is sufficient for one of you to place his hand on his thigh, then say salaam to his brother on his right and on his left.” Narrated by Muslim. According to another version of the hadeeth of Ibn Mas‘ood: The Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) used to say the tasleem to his right: ‘As-salaamu ‘alaykum wa rahmat-Allah’ and to his left: ‘As-salaamu ‘alaykum wa rahmat-Allah.’ At-Tirmidhi said: The hadeeth of Ibn Mas‘ood is a saheeh hasan hadeeth.

End quote from al-Mughni (1/323).

The view of Imam Maalik, as it says in Mawaahib al-Jaleel (1/526) is that the worshipper should say three tasleems: the first to his right, to conclude and exit his prayer, the second, which he should intend as a greeting to the imam, and the third, which he should intend as a greeting to those who are on his left. This view was rejected by al-Qaadi Abu Bakr ibn al-‘Arabi (may Allah have mercy on him), who favoured the view that the second tasleem should be intended as a greeting to both the imam and the other worshippers, and the third is a bid‘ah (innovation). He (may Allah have mercy on him) said: He should say two tasleems: one to his right which he should intend to conclude and exit the prayer, and the second to his left which he should intend as a greeting to the imam and congregation. The third he should avoid, because it is a bid‘ah (innovation), that was not proven from the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) or the Sahaabah.

End quote from Mawaahib al-Jaleel.

To sum up: What is encouraged (mustahabb) is for the worshipper to say two tasleems, whether he is the imam or praying behind an imam, and if the imam limits it to one tasleem, it is encouraged for the worshipper who is praying behind him to say two tasleems, one to his right and the second to his left.

And Allah knows best.

Allah is a demon god.
If you die in Islam , you are going to hell:

Volume 1, Book 12, Number 770:

Narrated Abu Huraira:

The people said, "O Allah's Apostle! Shall we see our Lord on the Day of Resurrection?" He replied, "Do you have any doubt in seeing the full moon on a clear (not cloudy) night?" They replied, "No, O Allah's Apostle!" He said, "Do you have any doubt in seeing the sun when there are no clouds?" They replied in the negative. He said, "You will see Allah (your Lord) in the same way. On the Day of Resurrection, people will be gathered and He will order the people to follow what they used to worship. So some of them will follow the sun, some will follow the moon, and some will follow other deities; and only this nation (Muslims) will be left with its hypocrites. Allah will come to them and say, 'I am Your Lord.' They will say, 'We shall stay in this place till our Lord comes to us and when our Lord will come, we will recognize Him. Then Allah will come to them again and say, 'I am your Lord.' They will say, 'You are our Lord.' Allah will call them, and As-Sirat (a bridge) will be laid across Hell and I (Muhammad) shall be the first amongst the Apostles to cross it with my followers. Nobody except the Apostles will then be able to speak and they will be saying then, 'O Allah! Save us. O Allah Save us.'

There will be hooks like the thorns of Sa'dan in Hell. Have you seen the thorns of Sa'dan?" The people said, "Yes." He said, "These hooks will be like the thorns of Sa'dan but nobody except Allah knows their greatness in size and these will entangle the people according to their deeds; some of them will fall and stay in Hell forever; others will receive punishment (torn into small pieces) and will get out of Hell, till when Allah intends mercy on whomever He likes amongst the people of Hell, He will order the angels to take out of Hell those who worshipped none but Him alone. The angels will take them out by recognizing them from the traces of prostrations, for Allah has forbidden the (Hell) fire to eat away those traces. So they will come out of the Fire, it will eat away from the whole of the human body except the marks of the prostrations. At that time they will come out of the Fire as mere skeletons. The Water of Life will be poured on them and as a result they will grow like the seeds growing on the bank of flowing water. Then when Allah had finished from the Judgments amongst his creations, one man will be left between Hell and Paradise and he will be the last man from the people of Hell to enter paradise. ........

enilove:



Allah is a demon god.
If you die in Islam , you are going to hell:

Volume 1, Book 12, Number 770:

Narrated Abu Huraira:

The people said, "O Allah's Apostle! Shall we see our Lord on the Day of Resurrection?" He replied, "Do you have any doubt in seeing the full moon on a clear (not cloudy) night?" They replied, "No, O Allah's Apostle!" He said, "Do you have any doubt in seeing the sun when there are no clouds?" They replied in the negative. He said, "You will see Allah (your Lord) in the same way. On the Day of Resurrection, people will be gathered and He will order the people to follow what they used to worship. So some of them will follow the sun, some will follow the moon, and some will follow other deities; and only this nation (Muslims) will be left with its hypocrites. Allah will come to them and say, 'I am Your Lord.' They will say, 'We shall stay in this place till our Lord comes to us and when our Lord will come, we will recognize Him. Then Allah will come to them again and say, 'I am your Lord.' They will say, 'You are our Lord.' Allah will call them, and As-Sirat (a bridge) will be laid across Hell and I (Muhammad) shall be the first amongst the Apostles to cross it with my followers. Nobody except the Apostles will then be able to speak and they will be saying then, 'O Allah! Save us. O Allah Save us.'

There will be hooks like the thorns of Sa'dan in Hell. Have you seen the thorns of Sa'dan?" The people said, "Yes." He said, "These hooks will be like the thorns of Sa'dan but nobody except Allah knows their greatness in size and these will entangle the people according to their deeds; some of them will fall and stay in Hell forever; others will receive punishment (torn into small pieces) and will get out of Hell, till when Allah intends mercy on whomever He likes amongst the people of Hell, He will order the angels to take out of Hell those who worshipped none but Him alone. The angels will take them out by recognizing them from the traces of prostrations, for Allah has forbidden the (Hell) fire to eat away those traces. So they will come out of the Fire, it will eat away from the whole of the human body except the marks of the prostrations. At that time they will come out of the Fire as mere skeletons. The Water of Life will be poured on them and as a result they will grow like the seeds growing on the bank of flowing water. Then when Allah had finished from the Judgments amongst his creations, one man will be left between Hell and Paradise and he will be the last man from the people of Hell to enter paradise. ........

Even the Hadith you quoted can make someone with a good thinking about what will happen after life on the Day of Resurrection become a Muslim.

Show us in your Bible where there's detailed information about what will happen after this life. Be it when the person is about to die, what happens immediately after the person dies, what happens in the grave, how we'll be resurrected, and how we'll receive judgement from God Almighty?

Thanks.

iamgenius:

Even the Hadith you quoted can make someone with a good thinking about what will happen after life on the Day of Resurrection become a Muslim.

Show us in your Bible where there's detailed information about what will happen after this life. Be it when the person is about to die, what happens immediately after the person dies, what happens in the grave, how we'll be resurrected, and how we'll receive judgement from God Almighty?

Thanks.

It is a tragedy that those Muslims that died along with Muhammed about 1,500 years ago and those after him are suffering in hell till now. Sad enough , they could have escaped this punishments.

The Bible makes us to know that once a person dies , he either goes to hell or heaven and once in hell , there is no coming out.

References:

Proverbs 15:24 KJV
The way of life is above to the wise, that he may depart from hell beneath.

Mark 9:47-48 KJV
And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire: [48] Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.

Luke 16:22-31 KJV
And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried;
[23] And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.
[24] And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame. [25] But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented.
[26] And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence.
[27] Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father's house:
[28] For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment.
[29] Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.
[30] And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent.
[31] And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.



Revelation 20:10-15 KJV
And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are , and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
[11] And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.
[12] And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
[13] And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
[14] And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
[15] And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

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Allah is a demon god.
If you die in Islam , you are going to hell:

Volume 1, Book 12, Number 770:

Narrated Abu Huraira:

The people said, "O Allah's Apostle! Shall we see our Lord on the Day of Resurrection?" He replied, "Do you have any doubt in seeing the full moon on a clear (not cloudy) night?" They replied, "No, O Allah's Apostle!" He said, "Do you have any doubt in seeing the sun when there are no clouds?" They replied in the negative. He said, "You will see Allah (your Lord) in the same way. On the Day of Resurrection, people will be gathered and He will order the people to follow what they used to worship. So some of them will follow the sun, some will follow the moon, and some will follow other deities; and only this nation (Muslims) will be left with its hypocrites. Allah will come to them and say, 'I am Your Lord.' They will say, 'We shall stay in this place till our Lord comes to us and when our Lord will come, we will recognize Him.