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Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only by duduspace(m): 5:30pm On Aug 07, 2010
There you have Kieran Gibbs playing as a LM (that is what he started out as a youth player) and putting in a creditable shift in there. These are footballers not Theo.
Arsene was very right when he described Chamakh as a fighter, the chap fights for every ball.
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only by follypimpi(m): 5:36pm On Aug 07, 2010
duduspace:

There you have Kieran Gibbs playing as a LM (that is what he started out as a youth player) and putting in a creditable shift in there. These are footballers not Theo.
Arsene was very right when he described Chamakh as a fighter, the chap fights for every ball.

I swear nah only A-40 dey talk say Walcott nah player,he should be loaned out to Leeds.
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only by mystikal(m): 5:37pm On Aug 07, 2010
Chamakh and Wilshere off for JET and Lansbury.

Chamakh looks a part of the team at least
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only by mystikal(m): 5:39pm On Aug 07, 2010
4 - 4
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only by ritchboy(m): 5:40pm On Aug 07, 2010
4-4

wgat a game?  cheesy
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only by duduspace(m): 5:42pm On Aug 07, 2010
How will Arsene fix this defence before Liverpool? I'm a bit scared that backline still has serious communication issues. That was our first choice backline out there conceding 4 goals.
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only by mystikal(m): 5:44pm On Aug 07, 2010
JET Scores 5 - 4.
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only by mystikal(m): 5:45pm On Aug 07, 2010
crazy match. even more crazy is the fact that we are conceding for fun.
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only by mystikal(m): 5:47pm On Aug 07, 2010
Nasri crowns a brilliant performance with a goal. 6 - 4
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only by ritchboy(m): 5:48pm On Aug 07, 2010
i think i've lost count. . . what are the scores please? grin
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only by ebeano1: 5:51pm On Aug 07, 2010
Jay Emma scores. 5-4 oh 6-4 now
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only by mystikal(m): 5:52pm On Aug 07, 2010
Our keepers all seem to struggle with set pieces
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only by mystikal(m): 5:56pm On Aug 07, 2010
6 - 5.

Question marks about this defence
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only by mystikal(m): 5:59pm On Aug 07, 2010
Setanta wetin
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only by ritchboy(m): 6:02pm On Aug 07, 2010
Full Time

6-5 shocked shocked
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only by mystikal(m): 6:03pm On Aug 07, 2010
Crazy Match.
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only by DrKitaun(m): 6:08pm On Aug 07, 2010
When did we start analysing HANDBALL games here ?

We concede 4 goals, 3 in d 1st half, we wont always get comebacks.

Our strikers ? is Eboue now one? For the 'header' value, lets pray our boys use MC29 more, even at set pieces.

Fabianski concedes 3, Schezny 1 . . .hmmn !

JET scores again ? AW please send him on loan, the likes of Debosky would appreciate him better out there . . .rubbish !
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only by DrKitaun(m): 6:10pm On Aug 07, 2010
Oh Schezny concedes anoda ?
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only by duduspace(m): 6:11pm On Aug 07, 2010
On a secondary note, that is the first match in their new stadium and Legia was really up for this match as they seemingly didn't want to lose their first match in their new stadium while we just took it like any other Pre-season game.
But still gives reasons for concern with that defense though, just don't seem to be able to handle pressure when it comes.
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only by proudly9ja(m): 6:13pm On Aug 07, 2010
Like I said pages ago, Arsenal's problem is not who plays in the defense. The guy coaching the defenders needs to go. And if its AW who is in charge, then he should bring in someone to do that job. Its obvious he's not good enough in that area.

Apart from that, again we have shown that we can always score. But then again we have shown we can also concede, lol
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only by v3: 6:59pm On Aug 07, 2010
Fabianski is another word for USELESS angry

Chamakh, God bless you.

Walcott. . . Two more years to improve or i kick ur hind out angry

Our Defence needs some SERIOUS attention.

6-5 ? shocked

SMH
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only by toosoon(m): 7:00pm On Aug 07, 2010
It is not about coaching, it's about buying the right defender in the likes of Terry,King,Vidic etc
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only by follypimpi(m): 7:09pm On Aug 07, 2010
v3:

Fabianski is another word for USELESS angry

Chamakh, God bless you.

Walcott. . . Two more years to improve or i kick your hind out angry

Our Defence needs some SERIOUS attention.

6-5 ? shocked

SMH

Will never improve his decision making is atrocious,his a bit deluded with the # 14,cos he thinks he can shoot from afar on Target like King Henry,bloody wasteman.
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only by Specialist900(m): 7:14pm On Aug 07, 2010
overall it was an interesting match to watch. Eboue now cools down to score; thats an improvement on his path. Can't walcott just improve!
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only by v3: 7:18pm On Aug 07, 2010
follypimpi:


Will never improve his decision making is atrocious,his a bit deluded with the # 14,cos he thinks he can shoot from afar on Target like King Henry,bloody wasteman.

You a love-vendor or sum'n?. . grin grin grin
Easy on the afro  wink
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only by ayusman16(m): 7:20pm On Aug 07, 2010
did not watch d match but how on earth did we conceed 5 goals, by all standard dat is a pathetic performance considering dat we ar not even thnking of getting a keeper. AW needs 2 do something b4 d end of d transfer window.
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only by Specialist900(m): 7:29pm On Aug 07, 2010
ayusman16:

did not watch d match but how on earth did we conceed 5 goals, by all standard dat is a pathetic performance considering dat we ar not even thnking of getting a keeper. AW needs 2 do something b4 d end of d transfer window.
i doubt if he still wants to sign a goolie except he will change his mind after todays performance. Yesterdays pre-match interview had it that he was still pondering who his no 1 will be, and who will be the goolie he will give out on loan.
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only by A40(m): 7:50pm On Aug 07, 2010
follypimpi:

now A-40 go come tell me Walcott nah player,kmt.
Abeg free the guy jor! Was he responsible for the 5 goals we leaked??


duduspace:

Look at all those instance you've mentioned, only one thing stands out, a moment of brilliance or in Theo's case exploitation of a unique ability (pace). The difference between Theo and Arshavin is ability, if anything Theo is actually a more committed player than Arshavin can ever be. Theo was brought in to do something similar to what Arshavin does (accelerate the game), only thing is Arshavin can still pass and shield the ball and even when disinterested will not make our game totally disjointed.
A moment of brilliance?? What else do you need to win football games? Moments of stupidity from the likes of Almunia or Diaby's own-goals? He has the pace and hence what he needs is to work on his decision-making and at 21 there is loads of time for that. The average English man is not skillful so if you where expecting Maradonic moves from Theo then sorry to disappoint you. When he creates chances and other players waste it i don't see you condemn them but na Theo you go just dey attack

duduspace:

The ineptitude of Diaby and Denilson did not lead to Fabianski's gaffe or Silvestre's inability to contain Drogba, if you look at possesion stats we still had better possesion than Chelsea in that match and lost to Drogba's physicality. If you ask me, one of the reasons why we lost was because guys like Theo and Adebayor did not help the MF translate possesion into danger for the opposition.
I would be on Denilson's neck if you can convince me that Frimpong or Eastmond would do a better job than Denilson which you can't do but I'm almost certain that any of Wilshere, JET and Lansbury would be a better player than Theo in any position you need him to be on the pitch. Infact you can add both Sunu and Barazite to that list.
Walcott was the best Arsenal player on the pitch that day!! I think the more we argue the more your prejudice for the lad shines through He put us in front and created a glorious chance for Van Persie's and but for his wastefulness we woulda been through to the final. Whereas Denilson & Diaby where killing us with their indecision on the ball and their inability to do a decent job in the middle against Ballack, Lampard and the other compadres. When Wilshere,JET and Lansbury start performing at the top stage consistently then your comparisons would make sense

Frimpong and Eastmond?? Hmmm i sorry for Arsenal this season embarassed embarassed

duduspace:

I did not focus on that match alone, Theo has had enough opportunities with more game time even than even the likes of Diaby (prior to last season), Arshavin may not look interested in every match but I repeat, he will not give the ball to the opponent or run into blind alleys even when playing against Dag and Red.
How much game time has Walcott had? All his seasons have been marred by injuries at one point or another so what are you on. Do you have any accurate stats on who gives balls away the most at Arsenal or how did you deduce that? Lets see stats maynne


duduspace:

Now this is the true source of our disagreement and to be honest it is a puzzle to me and one of the main reasons I think Theo might no longer have a place in the first team. The likes of Arshavin and Nasri can turn a game on its head with a moment of magical skill or pace and they do this without sacrificing the basic pass and move ethic of the team, if all we are keeping Theo around for is to make the odd run that leads to a goal, where does that leave the rest of the team? is that how to to build a team that plays total football? keeping in mind that a chain is only as strong as its weakest link.
Anyway, I'm eagerly waiting for the completion of Wellington Silva's move in January, that would be the final nail in Theo's coffin cos that chap would be another Arshavin in the squad and I trust Arsene to do the right thing with Theo once we get this English player agitation off our backs.
Walcott would play even if we signed Maradona. There would be times we would need more than just pass and move to break down teams and Walcott is still the best option we have in that team at the moment

Keep crucifying Walcott and don't advice stingy Wenger to get legit defenders and goalies
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only by follypimpi(m): 8:01pm On Aug 07, 2010
@A40

Did u see the difference Eboue made in the same position as Walcott ?
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only by v3: 8:04pm On Aug 07, 2010
WALCOTT, U wastepipe  angry
There. . I said it! I feel alot better now  smiley
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only by duduspace(m): 8:32pm On Aug 07, 2010
A-40:

A moment of brilliance?? What else do you need to win football games? Moments of stupidity from the likes of Almunia or Diaby's own-goals? He has the pace and hence what he needs is to work on his decision-making and at 21 there is loads of time for that. The average English man is not skillful so if you where expecting Maradonic moves from Theo then sorry to disappoint you. When he creates chances and other players waste it i don't see you condemn them but na Theo you go just dey attack

How many of these moments of brilliance do we get? 1 in every 10 matches? and how do those make up for all the moves that have broken down? there is no player I don't point out what I perceive to be their faults and I also point out improvements when I see it. I always knock Vela for his unseriousness and would always put Song ahead of Denilson until he bulks up, Rosicky who is one of my favorite players has had a horrendous pre-season and needs to sharpen up, you hear more about Theo from me because every game he plays now exposes him more.
At 21 and with all the game time Theo has had he should be close to what he will be now. CR9 at 18/19 had poor decision making but could at least dribble past his man most of the time even though he tended to overdo it, Theo is all over the place when he receives the ball, even before he decides what to do with it he would have lost the ball.


A-40:

Walcott was the best Arsenal player on the pitch that day!! I think the more we argue the more your prejudice for the lad shines through He put us in front and created a glorious chance for Van Persie's and but for his wastefulness we woulda been through to the final. Whereas Denilson & Diaby where killing us with their indecision on the ball and their inability to do a decent job in the middle against Ballack, Lampard and the other compadres. When Wilshere,JET and Lansbury start performing at the top stage consistently then your comparisons would make sense
Would you in all fairness claim that Theo has been performing at the top stage consistently as far as I'm concerned they are all developing players with Theo being given more opportunity so far in the first team. I am happy that will be changing very soon, people like JET and Wilshere are better footballers IMO.


A-40:

How much game time has Walcott had? All his seasons have been marred by injuries at one point or another so what are you on. Do you have any accurate stats on who gives balls away the most at Arsenal or how did you deduce that? Lets see stats maynne
I don't even need to see the stats to know this, have you watched all our pre-season games?


A-40:

Walcott would play even if we signed Maradona. There would be times we would need more than just pass and move to break down teams and Walcott is still the best option we have in that team at the moment
Keep crucifying Walcott and don't advice stingy Wenger to get legit defenders and goalies
This is a good line of thought, but I would want those times to be few and far in between. It is also worth considering the fact that the presence of players like Theo in the team hinders our playing pattern, just maybe that is why he is a good impact player and not a starter.
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only by duduspace(m): 8:33pm On Aug 07, 2010
Can you join me in congratulating Jack Wilshere and Kieran Gibbs on their first call up to the 3 lions, may they be the first of a new generation of gooners who will become mainstays of the 3 lions.
Rooney would enjoy playing with them. grin

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