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Re: PT Consult alleged to be Fraudulent by UnbanME(m): 6:31pm On May 26, 2010
Also tracked PTConsults to other websites  trying to scam potential customers by selling cars.


http://www.whogobuy.com/component/option,com_adsmanager/Itemid,88/adid,7072/catid,60/page,show_ad/


http://gbogbo.com/home/ad?postid=7689
Re: PT Consult alleged to be Fraudulent by bookface: 4:24pm On May 27, 2010
UnbanME:

Also tracked PTConsults to other websites  trying to scam potential customers by selling cars.


http://www.whogobuy.com/component/option,com_adsmanager/Itemid,88/adid,7072/catid,60/page,show_ad/


http://gbogbo.com/home/ad?postid=7689


Chei!.

the dude na die o! shocked

what bothers me is how the whole steam in the thread died down like some shít
Re: PT Consult alleged to be Fraudulent by Scooby1(m): 8:52pm On May 28, 2010
I hope efcc catches Ptconsults soon!
Re: PT Consult alleged to be Fraudulent by mcneal: 3:02am On Jun 05, 2010
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Re: PT Consult alleged to be Fraudulent by bookface: 12:25am On Jun 09, 2010
bump!
Re: PT Consult alleged to be Fraudulent by chelseabmw(m): 6:29am On Jun 09, 2010
what?
Re: PT Consult alleged to be Fraudulent by chelseabmw(m): 6:29am On Jun 09, 2010
i missed oo, i can't believe my eyes
Re: PT Consult alleged to be Fraudulent by chelseabmw(m): 8:30am On Jun 09, 2010
scams all over the world.i always recommend people to contact fhemmmy and inspired for pre ordered cars
Re: PT Consult alleged to be Fraudulent by mastro: 11:19am On Jun 09, 2010
i missed oo, i can't believe my eyes

It be like say you sleep my brother  tongue

threads like this are the lifeblood of Nairaland
Re: PT Consult alleged to be Fraudulent by Npoto: 2:03pm On Jun 09, 2010
Going through this thread has affirmed to me the need to be more cautious the way I take any posting/claims made on this site! I can only warn people who may be carried away by the sweet talks and shows on this forum and end up being swallowed by their fellow Nigerians. LOOK BEFORE YOU LEAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Re: PT Consult alleged to be Fraudulent by Volvoman: 2:39pm On Jun 09, 2010
Mr Onwan,

You claim to help all the people scammed by Ptconsult, i have read through this thread it seems you are part of Pt consults crew. Do something and help catch him not spill out jargon.
Re: PT Consult alleged to be Fraudulent by chelseabmw(m): 3:15pm On Jun 09, 2010
mastro:

It be like say you sleep my brother tongue

threads like this are the lifeblood of Nairaland

I did not sleep i was away.I travelled b4.But am back now
Re: PT Consult alleged to be Fraudulent by chelseabmw(m): 2:01am On Jun 10, 2010
Re: PT Consult alleged to be Fraudulent by bookface: 12:53pm On Jun 11, 2010
Anyone seen PT consult yet?
Re: PT Consult alleged to be Fraudulent by Onwan: 1:16pm On Jun 11, 2010
Volvoman:

Mr Onwan,

You claim to help all the people scammed by Ptconsult, i have read through this thread it seems you are part of Pt consults crew. Do something and help catch him not spill out jargon.

@Volvoman
Please do not insult me. Whatever I tried doing initially was basically out of thinking the "fraud" was real and that the people involved are real, later I found out from what I was reading online that its all just a bunch of user IDs, no real names, pictures , phone numbers - even of the "victims". I pay for internet access, not to waste my time or be insulted BUT for value.

When stories are not straight and it appears I cant put a handle on even the "victims", I think its simply best to walk away.

It doesnt have to take all of nairaland to tell someone who claims he lost millions to report to the appropriate authorities, also it doesnt take a rocket scientist to know that for any commitment above 100k, there has to be some sort of agreement and at least a flow of reference NOT FROM WHAT YOU SEE OR READ ONLINE but from your own evaluation of the individual on or after a meet.

IF I see anyone scammed by PT Consult and the person is forthcoming, then there are channels like the Police and EFCC that should be able to advise on ways.
So, Volvoman, I dont know you or your sex or where you are BUT its very important I warn you not to insult me again. Whatever detail was used to contact the PT Consult person was provided by other people on nairaland - NOT EVEN BY THE "VICTIMS". Im a real person, and not an ID, so please do not insult me.
Re: PT Consult alleged to be Fraudulent by tigerpaws(f): 10:11am On Jun 15, 2010
hmmmmmmm
Re: PT Consult alleged to be Fraudulent by Nobody: 12:54pm On Jun 15, 2010
Are we sure PT Consult issue is not a PUBLICITY STUNT or a case of BAD BELLE? Possibly trying to promote or launder its image but if its real let whoever has been scammed give us the facts!
Re: PT Consult alleged to be Fraudulent by bmwlondon: 9:19am On Jun 18, 2010
Are we sure PT Consult issue is not a PUBLICITY STUNT or a case of BAD BELLE? Possibly trying to promote or launder its image but if its real let whoever has been scammed give us the facts!

true talk
Re: PT Consult alleged to be Fraudulent by Onwan: 9:54am On Jun 18, 2010
Its a very big shame.

Most of the posts and new threads with funny accusations is beginning to look like they have some kind of angles to them. Check this new thread for instance: https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-464665.0.html

It looks more like the poster is simply trying to discredit nairaland or make it loose credibility and then advertise the website he carefully displayed in his signature line: http://www.naijacardeals.com/
Re: PT Consult alleged to be Fraudulent by Pennywise(m): 6:44pm On Jun 18, 2010
Onwan:

Its a very big shame.

Most of the posts and new threads with funny accusations is beginning to look like they have some kind of angles to them. Check this new thread for instance: https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-464665.0.html

It looks more like the poster is simply trying to discredit nairaland or make it loose credibility and then advertise the website he carefully displayed in his signature line: http://www.naijacardeals.com/

I am sorry but your premise and deduction is wrong. If you read this thread and you note the sequence of events you cant help but feel the anguish of the victim.
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-419077.128.html

Its so painfully sad that one small uni-boy is causing all this brouhaha (if that pix is correct). All I would have loved to do (if I was Bafam) is to seek a chance to spend a few mins alone with him in a 12 by 12 room. In case you are wondering no I am not gay and yes he can keep the money when I am done.
Re: PT Consult alleged to be Fraudulent by eros(m): 7:37pm On Jun 18, 2010
Pennywise:

I am sorry but your premise and deduction is wrong. If you read this thread and you note the sequence of events you cant help but feel the anguish of the victim.
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-419077.128.html

Its so painfully sad that one small uni-boy is causing all this brouhaha (if that pix is correct). All I would have loved to do (if I was Bafam) is to seek a chance to spend a few mins alone with him in a 12 by 12 room. In case you are wondering no I am not gay and yes he can keep the money when I am done.

[b]I am so certain, if he ever leaves that 12 by 12 room alive, he will never scam anybody in his misery life. ;[/b]D grin grin grin grin
Re: PT Consult alleged to be Fraudulent by Onwan: 9:42pm On Jun 18, 2010
Pennywise:

I am sorry but your premise and deduction is wrong. If you read this thread and you note the sequence of events you cant help but feel the anguish of the victim.
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-419077.128.html

Its so painfully sad that one small uni-boy is causing all this brouhaha (if that pix is correct). All I would have loved to do (if I was Bafam) is to seek a chance to spend a few mins alone with him in a 12 by 12 room. In case you are wondering no I am not gay and yes he can keep the money when I am done.

Im sorry Pennywise, I was not referring to the thread you are talking about. I had made my own conclusions on the issue and from what I know, there will be thousands more dealers online (not only on nairaland or even in Nigeria) - some real, some not; Its just up to an intending buyer to learn and make the right evaluation and assessments IF they cannot go to a physical car lot like Berger and buy.
Re: PT Consult alleged to be Fraudulent by Busybody2(f): 4:06am On Jun 19, 2010
Timehin:

Are we sure PT Consult issue is not a PUBLICITY STUNT or a case of BAD BELLE? Possibly trying to promote or launder its image but if its real let whoever has been scammed give us the facts!


This is not a case of bad belle because PTconsult was online the whole time, yet chose not to respond to the allegation but was instead sending text messages and posting inane messages about "SOME IMAGINARY NAIRALANDERS IN HIS HEAD PACCIFYING HIM NOT TO TALK" Utter tosh and complete balderdash undecided


This ain't no publicity stunt either otherwise he would have been here milking it already (I know of one such PUBLICITY STUNT though that happened a lil while back ago lipsrsealed )


Pennywise:

I am sorry but your premise and deduction is wrong. If you read this thread and you note the sequence of events you cant help but feel the anguish of the victim.
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-419077.128.html

Its so painfully sad that one small uni-boy is causing all this brouhaha (if that pix is correct). All I would have loved to do (if I was Bafam) is to seek a chance to spend a few mins alone with him in a 12 by 12 room. In case you are wondering no I am not gay and yes he can keep the money when I am done.


Na only that one you see, go to the education section and see these shameless buffoons who's pictures have beeen exposed, scamming 15/16 year old school leavers, shame sad
Re: PT Consult alleged to be Fraudulent by Busybody2(f): 4:23am On Jun 19, 2010
Onwan:

@Volvoman
Please do not insult me. Whatever I tried doing initially was basically out of thinking the "fraud" was real and that the people involved are real, later I found out from what I was reading online that its all just a bunch of user IDs, no real names, pictures , phone numbers - even of the "victims". I pay for internet access, not to waste my time or be insulted BUT for value.

[size=14pt]When stories are not straight and it appears I cant put a handle on even the "victims", I think its simply best to walk away.[/size]


Wow, i could have sworn one garrulous, uncouth twerp said i was the reason for this, wonders shall never cease undecided undecided undecided

Onwan:

It doesnt have to take all of nairaland to tell someone who claims he lost millions to report to the appropriate authorities,


You were the one who suggested people shouldn't go to the police as you felt Ptconsult would deliver undecided
Re: PT Consult alleged to be Fraudulent by freshmoney(m): 6:35am On Jun 19, 2010
Busy_body:


Wow, i could have sworn one garrulous, uncouth twerp said i was the reason for this, wonders shall never cease undecided undecided undecided


omode oshi. Ti mi ba gba e mu, iya e o ni da e mo. Who gave you the right of action to spit on people as you like, you this twit, untaught child grin grinmo ti tu ile agbon cheesy grin thunder of grammar, and series of tongue-lashing awaiting, grin wink Busy body, elenu blade, I am waiting, cool


Apparently, Onwan was trying to get everything sorted out between both sides unknown to him that the ptconsult of a guy is a fraud. So Mrs Enu, dont blame this big boy. I blame Onwan that he didnt fulfill his promise to get EFCC involved on this; though, he said when the victim himself wasnt serious, it would be difficult for him to take the whole situation all by himself. Onwan don't mind this Mrs Enu AKA Mrs Mouth. Oya Busybody, come with brutal force, and rain abusive words on me. I have not had enough, stubborn girl sad
Re: PT Consult alleged to be Fraudulent by texazzpete(m): 6:50am On Jun 19, 2010
Onwan:

Its a very big shame.

Most of the posts and new threads with funny accusations is beginning to look like they have some kind of angles to them. Check this new thread for instance: https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-464665.0.html

It looks more like the poster is simply trying to discredit nairaland or make it loose credibility and then advertise the website he carefully displayed in his signature line: http://www.naijacardeals.com/

What has this got to do with this case? Stop trying to muddy up the waters.


Onwan:

@Volvoman
Please do not insult me. Whatever I tried doing initially was basically out of thinking the "fraud" was real and that the people involved are real, later I found out from what I was reading online that its all just a bunch of user IDs, no real names, pictures , phone numbers - even of the "victims". I pay for internet access, not to waste my time or be insulted BUT for value.

When stories are not straight and it appears I cant put a handle on even the "victims", I think its simply best to walk away.

It doesnt have to take all of nairaland to tell someone who claims he lost millions to report to the appropriate authorities, also it doesnt take a rocket scientist to know that for any commitment above 100k, there has to be some sort of agreement and at least a flow of reference NOT FROM WHAT YOU SEE OR READ ONLINE but from your own evaluation of the individual on or after a meet.

IF I see anyone scammed by PT Consult and the person is forthcoming, then there are channels like the Police and EFCC that should be able to advise on ways.
So, Volvoman, I dont know you or your sex or where you are BUT its very important I warn you not to insult me again. Whatever detail was used to contact the PT Consult person was provided by other people on nairaland - NOT EVEN BY THE "VICTIMS". Im a real person, and not an ID, so please do not insult me.

PTConsult has been linked repeatedly to other scams going on in Nairaland, and enough accusations have been made here. Why do you need the victims to post their real names, phone numbers and more 'evidence' before you understand?
I don't believe you're in cahoots with the scammer - that's absurd - but you're burying your head in the sand. And I cannot also understand why the alleged victims spent valuable time pandering to your demands for evidence here instead of heading to the Police or EFCC.
Re: PT Consult alleged to be Fraudulent by texazzpete(m): 6:54am On Jun 19, 2010
UnbanME:

Also tracked PTConsults to other websites  trying to scam potential customers by selling cars.


http://www.whogobuy.com/component/option,com_adsmanager/Itemid,88/adid,7072/catid,60/page,show_ad/


http://gbogbo.com/home/ad?postid=7689

There's a phone number in this ad. Did no one think of calling this fellow to set him up?
I'm beginning to see Onwan's point and perhaps I owe him an apology. The alleged victims themselves are not acting like people who lost any money at all.
If I was in their shoes, his nuts would be hanging on my wall as I type this.
Re: PT Consult alleged to be Fraudulent by freshmoney(m): 7:21am On Jun 19, 2010
Texazzpete, how about getting a pretty woman to call his number to set him up? We may give him a breathing space of a week or 2, so he wouldnt suspect this. Fraudsters get arrested through this. Lets collectively nab this guy. Now, who says EFCC agent aint on Nairaland? Who says Police or ICPC are no where to be found here? Please let the concerned force join hands together and help us out. Enough of scam here.

busy_body, be rest assured that you owe me 24 strokes of condo on your back side, further abusive words will incur more strokes. Mrs Paparazzi,mrs mouth. Your husband/ husband-to-be go really try, cuz if he says a sentence , u'll surely reciprocate with 20 sentences. silly woman grin
Re: PT Consult alleged to be Fraudulent by Busybody2(f): 8:28am On Jun 19, 2010
MORE MUSING cool cool cool cool


https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-440645.96.html#msg6021426
Robotica:
House, Don't know if youv noticed There is someone new I’v observed on the autosection. There is a  new guy called AGARIautos. There is something PTConsulty about him,  He registered few days after ptconsults last logon date…His car pictures seem to be very similar to the location of pictures of pt consults cars,  for someone new, who is offering pre-orders  to know the process of pre-orders so well… is he ptconsults re-incarnated?  Different and well presented writing manner though, but for all we know he might be an acomplice of Ptconsult or PTConsult himself. Are they out on the Hunt again?. Could the PTconsults cartel be seeking to damage NL Autos reputation and milk innocent buyers?,  and  damage the reputation and business of trustworthy dealers like fhemmy, kunle, inspired, bizbooks,dantikiki,  emperoh, german007 and viperman?,  by building sudden weariness and fear amongst visitors to this site?

MY INSTINCTS NEVER LEADS ME WRONG.

Below are his threads for infinity’s
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-440327.0.html

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-440327.0.html


PTconsults himself during his active days here had the below threads for very similar cars,  “Infinity’s” AND Cars located in Texas.

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-416873.32.html


https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-419079.0.html


https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-419077.0.html




Agariautos,  No disrespect or offence meant If you are indeed who you say you are, an authentic, honest dealer.

All we are doing here is protecting the interest of this section.


We implore to prove yourself in the interest of this section.





@ freshmoney aka nairaland's resident inspector gadget + dangermouse(bushrat)


I am 100% sure that e-werepe is worrying you, so i will not insult you at all in order not to compound the e-adete you already have cheesy Obuko oshi, atole cool cool cool
Re: PT Consult alleged to be Fraudulent by Busybody2(f): 8:35am On Jun 19, 2010
AGARIautos:

[b]MONITOR_1 HAS RELEASED THE FINDINGS AND CLEARED ALL DOUBTS GENERATED ABOUT OUR DEALINGS AND TRUST IN AUTO BUSINESS IF STILL IN DOUBT PLEASE TRY BECOMING A DEALER WITH MANHEIM, WE ALSO HOPE THIS CLOSES ALL ISSUES RELATING TO THIS AND ANY OTHER CLAIMS.

THANKS MONITOR_1 FOR WADING IN AT THE RIGHT TIME AND OUR GRATITUDE TO ALL FORUMITES AND PROSPECTIVE CUSTOMERS FOR THEIR PATIENCE AND UNDERSTANDING.

WE LOOK FORWARD TO EARNING YOUR BUSINESS SOON.
[/[/color]b]




1) Monitor does not own the website, he is just a loyal subject.


2) As a Car dealer, how could you misconstrue a common receipt as a "Bill of Lading" (Rhetorical question as other Dealers in the house keep referring to it as Bill of laden, so you are excused too on this ground)


3) The Admin (the owner) gave the house permission to ask questions maturedly to ascertain certain instances leaving us confuzzled and you pick and chose and you are yet to answer whether your posts proclaiming that you have sold 33 very eye-wateringly expensive cars in 5 months is just mere "advertising gimmicks or due to something more sinister" as well as address Mastro and Robotica's concern undecided


4) Another question, i understand you are new to the trade so it wouldn't be fair to be going through your posts with a fine-toothed comb, but going by your "container consolidation" phrase, you mean you are trying to maximise cost and save a few dollars, so why according to you has this car been parked at the ports since mid-March, incurring $10/day storage according to Manheim Exports, this kinda end surely doesn't justify the mean as you have racked up around $900 so far


AGARIautos:

WE DO APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S CONCERNS AND ESPECIALLY THAT OF THE MONITOR_1 FOR LOOKING INTO THIS. WE WISH TO REMIND ALL THAT WE STATED FROM DAY ONE THAT VEHICLE WAS WAITING FOR CONTAINER CONSOLIDATION AND HENCE THE LONG WAIT SINCE MARCH, 2010. IT WAS FINALLY LOADED ON JUNE 11, 2010 WITH ESTIMATED SAIL DATE OF JUNE 18, 2010 AS NOTIFIED.

THE DOCUMENT WE HAVE IS 344KB AND UNABLE TO UPLOAD IT HERE BUT HERE ARE SOME OF THE DETAILS IT CONTAINS FOR YOU TO VERIFY, PLEASE.

SHIPPER: MANHEIM EXPORT, INC, 2711 CENTERVILLE ROAD, SUITE 400, WILMINGTON, DELAWARE, U.S.
BOOKING NO.: USCQG014256
BILL OF LADING NO.: 80000726
VESSEL & VOYAGE: AL NOOF 102E 6-19
PORT OF LOADING: NEW JERSEY
PORT OF DISCHARGE: LAGOS (TIN CAN ISLAND), NIGERIA
PORT OF DELIVERY: LAGOS
MARKS & NUMBERS: UACU 5103210 3900979
NO. OF PKGS.: 1
DESCRIPTION OF GOODS & PKGS: 1 X 40' HC 2007 INFINITI FX45 VIN: JNRBS08W37X400079 OVEASEAS TERMINAL COLLECT SHIPPER'S LOAD, STOW AND COUNT
GROSS WEIGHT: 1957 KGS 4314 LBS
PLACE AND DATE OF ISSUE: MISSISSAUGA, ONTARIO, JUNE 14, 2010
SIGNED ON BEHALF OF THE CARRIER: BY: LAURA +1 -905-678-0600

WE OBLIGE ALL TO FURTHER INQUIRE AND VERIFY WHILE WE REMAIN ON STANDBY TO PROVIDE ANY FURTHER ANSWERS REQUIRED.


Re: PT Consult alleged to be Fraudulent by Busybody2(f): 9:07am On Jun 19, 2010
And my final query - What is so special about your US phone number that you don't wanna reveal it Don't know about others, and I am not asking for it, but for me, its kinda too late to wana produce it under duress as i am thinking you would claim you are now in Nigeria to receive the infinity or could go and purchase one of those international numbers which could be used in Nigeria, WHERE I BELIEVE YOU HAVE ALWAYS BEEN, OR HOW CAN YOU EXPLAIN THE WHITE PERSON WHO TOOK THE PIX AT THE TEXAS SHOWROOM WHERE CAR WAS PURCHASED


Reason I am FLUMMOXED is because during the height of Ptconsult's shenanigan, when Bafams and Rawe45 spoke to him and was in Nigeria as they called his Nigerian number, but Onwan stated that when he called Ptconsult at the same time, he called him on a US number and he was so sure they were gonna get their car from Ptconsult. Infact he refused to take calls except from Onwan See his post below. Infact Onwan came down toooooo harshly on those who were asking you to provide your number, same way he came down too harshly on the person who opened this thread, even calling Gestapo a slut undecided


Another reason is, this same car was purchased around the same time in March the car Ptconsult was supposed to sell to Bafams got sold in the States but never materialised undecided


Don't forget my other query which Monitor deleted, which you saw by the way but refused to respond to - you claim to have sold to just 2 Nigerians, so why were you asking Honourable Adexfem on his thread for the shipping/clearing cost of about 7/8 of these cars to Nigeria undecided undecided undecided



@ Texasspete

The victims with the help of 2 other Nairalanders had already gone to the EFCC TO REPORT THE CASE WHILST ONWAN WAS STILL ON NUMBER 2 OF HIS 1021 QUESTIONS, TWAS JUST THOUGHT ITS BEST NOT TO LET PTCONSULT KNOW THEY ARE ALREADY ON HIS TAIL cheesy
Re: PT Consult alleged to be Fraudulent by Pennywise(m): 10:22am On Jun 19, 2010
eros:

[b]I am so certain, if he ever leaves that 12 by 12 room alive, he will never scam anybody in his misery life.  ;[/b]D grin grin grin grin

You will be surprised at the capacity of the human body to endure beating and pain. Man is actually a very strong animal.

Many years ago as a uni-student I was among a night mob that took on a notorious thief caught red-handed. I heard later that he lived but I didnt hear him stealing again. Ever.

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