Kobojunkie:

If you really believe the above, then you ought to desist from making up stories about their person, whether good lies or bad lies. Since they are no longer available to defend any of the lies, then don't even make up any lies, simple!No, it does not. Judge Not, lest though be judged has NOTHING to do with the dead. In fact, if you read the rest of the Bible, you would come to Chapters where you are urged to judge right from wrong, evil from good, because God has given you knowledge to do so.

if you go back to the beginning of the bible, you would see how man was made Judge over all the land, and all. You would also see the consequence of respecting the dead, whether good or bad, over God's commandment to do the right thing all the time. Moving a bit forward to eccelesiastes and you are further informed of how the dead no longer matter, and no longer care of your opinions because they are D-E-A-D. lol

So, sorry, it is isn't biblical.

platinumnk:



Word. You didnt celebrate him when he was alive did you? If not, then sit your fake behind down.

Omolulu:

I have not denied that the approach might be risky, but you will agree that when certain personalities are debated, opinions differ, sometimes to the extremes, i jumped for joy at Abacha's death, I might be very indifferent about babangida, As i said, i relied on 2 observations, you would also observe that a significant number of posts acknowledged the man as a gentle man.I guess it was obvious to all,

Omolulu:
Who said the dead cannot be insulted, the dead can, afterall they cant comeback, most people pay respects, even Soyinka did while stating the blunt truth about him (http://www.punchng.com/Articl.aspx?theartic=Art20100506246746), I've seen some opinions here that would make Yaradua seem worse than IBB, Abacha and OBJ rolled into one

Omolulu:


I pay respect differs from celebrating him, I could pay respects and still insult him

Kobojunkie:

That a significant number of posts acknowledged the man as a gentle man, even with majority NEVER HAVEN MET THE MAN, does not make it right to judge a man's personal attitude when you have NEVER MET THE MAN. It is a bad way to judge anyone!!

Imagine if you were in court, accused of a serious crime, and people in the jury judged you in a similar way and in the way found you guilty as a result? Would you be content with that? Millions across the world do it daily, more times than not, it is usually with negative conclusions.

Again, judging the man by his own record, makes more sense than judging him based on the sides of him we never knew while he was alive.

steroid:

All i can put through to those who are just blabbing about the president


IS


HE THAT IS WITHOUT SIN CAST THE FIRST STONE

Omolulu:

you might be right and wrong, different people have different opinions, If i were to die, you might find someone who would say i wasn't useful for anything, you might also find someone saying i did a kind act or 2, I recently met someone who told me nearly everything i did back in school, she claims she heard it from a friend, too bad they were negative and i dare say some were true, it might not be a good way but you cannot write it out entirely
PS Courts deal with facts, people will always have opinions they want to have of you whether good or bad

platinumnk:

And Also We are to Abhor EVIL, and fight against it, are we not.


Matter of fact there are a few convicted Serial killers here on death row.  I promise they are pretty gentle people in their jail cell.
When they are executed, please come and pay your respects too.
Dont worry about a plane ticket. Its on me.

platinumnk:

@Cap- Yardua wanted to trade with China out of his own greed. Dont get it twisted.

Kobojunkie:

Ok. . . . I am glad you have experienced the negatives of this, now why would you feel it is Ok to continue doing the same thing?

Courts deal with facts, sure, but the members of the jury are humans with rights to their opinion and can easily base their final decision on their opinion and not necessarily the facts. Would you be willing to accept that sort of judgement on your life, especially knowing it is likely to be negative? I would think not, and I am not sure why anyone would advocate for that to even be allowed.

Courts deal with facts, and so can we as humans. Rather than going around filling our minds with hear say, don't you think it is best if we only traded facts, in all situations?

steroid:

You had all the time to do that while he was still breathing, not now he is resting from life struggles.


I'll suggest you attack living souls because they still have the chance to ammend their ways.  



I don't see the need wasting your precious energy on someone who is no more,  Think about it for a second

Tuyis:

Kobojunkie

It is obvious that death is not deterrent to those who wish to plunder Nigeria, so,  gloating is a waste of time.

(CNN) -- Who is Nigeria's new president, Goodluck Jonathan?
In keeping with his name, he is sometimes regarded as one of the luckiest men in Nigerian politics. Goodluck Jonathan, 52, with a degree in zoology worked as an environmental officer until he entered politics. He ran as deputy governor for Bayelsa state in 2001-- one of Nigeria's main oil-producing states in the oil-rich Niger Delta region.
After the state governor -- Diepreye Alamieyeseigha -- was indicted by Nigeria's Economic and Financial Crimes Commission on corruption charges in 2006, Jonathan was promoted to governor of one of the richest regions in Africa.
This rather obscure politician is then widely regarded by political analysts as having been hand-picked by then-President Olusegun Obasanjo to run as vice-president with Umaru Yar'Adua in the 2007 national elections.
In what are widely considered the most flawed in Nigeria's history they won.
Then in November 2009, President Umaru Yar'Adua was taken to Saudi Arabia because of a heart condition -- but without signing over power to his vice president.
Since November, Jonathan and his supporters struggled to gain presidential power against an array of factions competing for influence and power. In February, Jonathan was finally made acting president by the House of Representatives. With Yar'Adua's death and the consequent swearing in of Jonathan to the presidency he has now solidified his position.
Some Nigerians put Jonathan's rise to power down to 'good luck.' The removal of those above him -- through no act of his own -- provided the opportunity for his rise. Others credit him with the political patience to sit out events until they play in his favor.
Whatever the case he has no further to rise and his political prowess and skill will now be truly tested to try to introduce any of his promised reforms before elections next year.

How well known is he on the African stage?
Not at all, and not especially even in Nigeria. Jonathan's first main interview after assuming the vice presidency was CNN's "Amanpour" show.
He is a quiet man, who appears to have had little obvious ambition in reaching the dizzying heights of the presidency.
However, his recognition has skyrocketed as he assumed the presidency of Africa's most populous country, with about 150 million people. His agenda before the elections will be less about projecting Nigeria's image across the continent and world -- but maintaining stability and preparing the country for elections next year.

What was his relationship with Yar'Adua?
Very little is known about the private relationship between Yar'Adua and now-President Jonathan, who had little public influence in the administration during Yar'Adua's tenure.
Nigeria holds an unofficial policy of power sharing between the south-west, south-east and north. Yar'Adua was the north's "turn" and Jonathan's appointment to the vice presidency was seen as appeasing the South-East in the power-sharing arrangement.
However, both Yar'Adua and Jonathan were members of Nigeria's biggest political party -- the PDP or Peoples Democratic Party. With little opposition it's a party with little coherent political alignment other than maintaining control of Nigerian politics. Both Yar'Adua and Jonathan agreed on the main polices of the administration and now Jonathan promises to continue Yar'Adua's main agenda of political reform and peace in the Niger Delta.

How likely is Jonathan to get re-elected next year?
The 2011 elections are the prize for the on-going political struggles. Jonathan has not said publicly that he will run but he has also not ruled out running.
Already several of Nigeria's big political players are intimating that they will run -- in particular Ibrahim Babangida, an ex-president who annulled the country's elections in 1993.
However, holding the presidency would give Jonathan considerable influence and support as the incumbent if he decided to run. But many analysts believe Jonathan's much touted electoral reform will be difficult to implement if he decides to run in a race that he is also trying to influence through his reforms.
Jonathan also hails from Nigeria's south, and the PDP's unofficial policy of power rotation means that the presidency still belongs to the north. They are traditional powerbrokers in much Nigeria's history since independence in 1960 and feel that despite Yar'Adua's death, the president should continue to belong to a northerner for at least one more term.

In April Jonathan fired the whole of the cabinet. Why did he do this?
Jonathan and his supporters struggled to maintain their grip on power after Yar'Adua left for Saudi Arabia because of a heart condition.
What was widely criticized by political commentators and even some ministers as a "cabal" of ministers around both the president and his wife, Turai, tried to prevent the transfer of power to Jonathan and keep control of Nigeria's massive oil economy and political power for the upcoming elections for themselves.
During the political impasse, hundreds were killed in ethno-religious violence in central Nigeria, attacks against oil facilities in the oil-rich Niger Delta resumed and thousands of protesters took to the streets.
To try to clear the impasse, assume political control, bring a sense of stability, as well as bow to popular pressure Jonathan fired the entire cabinet. His new cabinet is widely regarded as trying to appease most of the factions -- bringing back some of Yar'Adua's ministers, introducing ministers of his own, as well as Former Goldman Sachs executive Olusegun Olutoyin Aganga as finance minister whom many hope will continue economic reforms.

What is his attitude toward the militants in the troubled oil-rich Niger Delta region?
Jonathan is from the Niger Delta, and has plenty of political experience in the region after his time as governor of one most oil-rich states in the region.
As a politician from the Niger Delta he carries considerable political influence with the armed gangs and militants in the Niger Delta, who now see his rise to the presidency as their opportunity to wield true political power and implement long-term changes in favor of the region.
However, the Niger Delta is a region of many ethnic and political groups and many do not support Jonathan -- some even attempting to prevent him assuming the Presidency.
An amnesty for militant groups introduced under Yar'Adua maintains a relative peace in the region -- and Jonathan has stated his aim to support the amnesty and rehabilitation of militants who accepted it.
However, it must be noted that the militants were originally funded and armed by politicians in the Niger Delta who used the armed young men to win political power. This is the background against which politicians like Jonathan rose to power in the region. There is a concern that with the 2011 elections the cycle could begin again.

What other key issues face Nigeria? What are Jonathan's plans?
Nigeria has a host of problems it needs to tackle -- corruption, ethno-religious violence in central Nigeria, armed gangs in the oil-rich Niger Delta, the rise of Islamic sects in the north, dependency on oil (oil accounts for 80% of budgetary revenue), and a overwhelming population explosion.
Perhaps the most important key to alleviating most of these issues is free and fair elections and Jonathan is promising electoral reform.
However, so too have many of his predecessors, and Jonathan's rise to power is on the back of what are widely regarded as some of the most flawed elections in the country's history. But even some a small improvement in the election process would help return from what is a complete erosion in the legitimacy of government in the eyes of Nigerians, and in turn hope to promote better governance.
Jonathan is a product of Nigeria's current political system who has attempted few big reforms against the status quo during most of his time in office. Why would he start now? Nigerians don't care -- they just want him to start.

OgidiBoy:

At least pay a little respect to the dead nah!! The man was somebody's son and father.

platinumnk:

I am saying exactly what I was saying about him when he was alive.

My problem is not with Yardua. My issue is with the the mentality of Nigerians.
I am trying to make people realize what they are saying.
Go to websites of other Countries.
Those who know about the corruption are all saying Good Riddance.
And these arent the people who dont live here and experience the hell we go through!

If people posted with sense, then I wouldnt have anything more to argue.
But unless these people spoke good about him, how can they run around saying he was a 'good or great' man?
For wia?
Tell me one point of his agenda  he completed?
Isnt Angola now #1 in exporting Oil?
When the hand of oppressors are lifted you cry for the fingers to return.
Abeg- Let our many pastors pray that he raise from the dead since you people are crying so much.
Foolishness!

factbox:

With this u have just shown dat u re very crude and inexposed with your yeah neck sticking to your backside.

factbox:

Better read and always comprehend your post well B4 copying and pasting here u just sounded very foolish for the fifth time NZUOR like u,it so obvious u have nofin in dat empty cracked brain of urs (by thier post we shall no dem).UNTILL U POST SOMETHING DAT REALLY MAKE SENSE,MU, MU .

cap28:

Yaradua  died in december 2009 when he was murdered by either the CIA or MI5,  in order to cover up their crime the americans and the british orchestrated that whole charade of him being hospitalised in  a Saudi hospital  and the hopeless nigerian press moved into action with their fairy stories about a "powerful cabal" - headed up by his wife Turai who was trying to appropriate power away from Jonathan his "rightful successor"  - bull Poo, i have said it before and i will say it again - Jonathan replaced yaradua by way of an american/british backed coup d'etat because Yaradua was engaging in bilateral trade with China.

After Yaradua was deposed there was a scramble for power by members of his former cabinet and various successors, the news was not disclosed to nigerians then for fear of the country descending into anarchy - that is the truth - forget about this fake story about him dying yesterday - he died in december - beleive it or not Yaradua actually had good intentions for nigeria, he was brokering deals with China which would have benefitted the nigerian economy much more than the bilateral trade that jonathan and obasanjo are brokering with the americans, i beleive he paid for his unwillingness to toe the line with his life.