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Re: Strike: "JOHESU is Selfish, They don't know what they want" must read!! by Mofpearl: 4:05am On Apr 19, 2018 |
Re: Strike: "JOHESU is Selfish, They don't know what they want" must read!! by cheezy4real(m): 4:21am On Apr 19, 2018 |
Op stop misleading people. Amarabae , I like your courage. Doctors will drown the health sector unless trained hospital administrators are allowed to manage our hospital sectors. Nigeria spent money on their training some of them and you see them occupying offices that tie down, that you don't see them in hospitals often. That's why you keep medical officers that can do anything except the consultants come. If you have lost someone, you will know how I feel about this whole shit. Pls doctors should leave other professionals alone. They are behind this chaos. I see our hospitals being fully privatised 3 Likes |
Re: Strike: "JOHESU is Selfish, They don't know what they want" must read!! by mamajaz(f): 4:57am On Apr 19, 2018 |
quatrevingtdix:A link will help us to ascertain this...just act as an educator like the person you quoted did. |
Re: Strike: "JOHESU is Selfish, They don't know what they want" must read!! by JoannaSedley(f): 5:25am On Apr 19, 2018 |
madgoat:Same old bullsh!t line. Same old inferior line of defense for kindergarten. It seems must of you " Nigerian doctors and students " are given the same stale lines yo use as defense. Jsmb score this and that.....of course I scored 100 madgoat. 1 Like |
Re: Strike: "JOHESU is Selfish, They don't know what they want" must read!! by JoannaSedley(f): 5:29am On Apr 19, 2018 |
Jedi777:And you believe that? Pray tell...which residency training is done when a student is yet to graduate from MBBS? If he included internships/housemanship, which others also do then that left him with one year unaccounted for. Stop defending the indefensible please 1 Like |
Re: Strike: "JOHESU is Selfish, They don't know what they want" must read!! by kamantan(m): 5:49am On Apr 19, 2018 |
ur write up shows how shallow minded Nigerian doctors are, bunch of selfish ingrates. |
Re: Strike: "JOHESU is Selfish, They don't know what they want" must read!! by GIBT: 6:11am On Apr 19, 2018 |
The OP's obsession is partly because he cannot work in a medical laboratory... How is that the fault of Medical Laboratory Scientists? Medical Laboratory Science is an establishment of the law in Nigeria hence, they are licensed to practice. Are you licensed to practice? Were you exposed to clinical practice during ur training at school?? Johesu demands for salary increase and it has suddenly become an issue. Doctors go on strike for that same reason. Stop acting like you are neutral... 3 Likes |
Re: Strike: "JOHESU is Selfish, They don't know what they want" must read!! by Wizedoc(m): 6:15am On Apr 19, 2018 |
Everyone here has been saying that doctors hamper the progress of other health workers, but have not been able to come up with a palpable proof. I think every profession is entitled to what they deem as their rightful emolument if it justifiable. It's normal to always look at issues from your profession's point of view and support your discipline in matters such as what the OP is thrashing. But as a Nurse and a Doctor, what is best for the patient should be of paramount importance to us as medical personnel and not fighting each other. To be honest, the various unions are not helping matters, they always go for each other's jugular, breeding hate among members of the contrasting unions. Anyways, I didn't get the satisfaction from both professions so being my own boss is my next move which is in the pipeline. Salary or no salary, life should go on. Just to add that every worker in Nigeria is underpaid. But our politicians........i heard our senators earn more than America's President. Lemme come and be going... After all what do I know, na who get money get power and na who get power dey fight. I can not come and die. 1 Like |
Re: Strike: "JOHESU is Selfish, They don't know what they want" must read!! by ewawumi(f): 6:28am On Apr 19, 2018 |
why would a doctor take all ultimate decision even if he knows absolute nothing about what i do? or should his instructions be based on Google searches and online articles? When it comes to diagnosis and all other ishs, i care less, but as a prosthetist, he will have to be able to enter the laboratory and fabricate himself if he thinks he knows enough to lord over me in my speciality. the only time i will accept all this claims is when a KEITH MOORE AND SEMBULIGAN publishes a different anatomy/physiology text for other health practitioners, but 8if we still study the same textbook, just let us hear word. PROUDPROSTHETIST/ORTHOTIST |
Re: Strike: "JOHESU is Selfish, They don't know what they want" must read!! by Amarabae(f): 6:31am On Apr 19, 2018 |
GIBT:Thank you for knowing the tactics of the OP He read microbiology and wanted to compete with med lab people but reality dawned on him. So he is out to attack medical lab scientists because he is now in a medical school. . He was not neutral at all. Good morning 2 Likes |
Re: Strike: "JOHESU is Selfish, They don't know what they want" must read!! by IamGoke(m): 6:46am On Apr 19, 2018 |
ultron12345: May I know what you had in JAMB?? It seams is your only point of argument when arguing with other professionals. Must everybody study MBBS Going through this thread thoroughly, most of the people studying MBBS are doing that because of the pecuniary gains attach to it in Nigeria only and not because of passion!!! FYI, year in year out, I've never seen an MBBS aspirant having the highest score in JAMB and POST UTME so why the fuse of this JAMB score. I dare you to put up your JAMB score and I will also drop mine to see whether you even come close talkless of comparing .... p.s I'm not an health worker. Nonsense!!!! 4 Likes |
Re: Strike: "JOHESU is Selfish, They don't know what they want" must read!! by chiddyj: 6:58am On Apr 19, 2018 |
quatrevingtdix:it isnt ironic because they know the doctors wont support them for these entitlement they r fighting for . I've seen 1t hand how selfish nd entitled doctors can be. |
Re: Strike: "JOHESU is Selfish, They don't know what they want" must read!! by Amarabae(f): 7:01am On Apr 19, 2018 |
IamGoke:You even have time to reply the guy,I just ignored him. To them, everybody want to study medicine but Jamb stopped them. Very shallow mentality. Braggarts and empty. That is to show you why Nigeria health system is a mess. . 7 Likes |
Re: Strike: "JOHESU is Selfish, They don't know what they want" must read!! by NoToPile: 7:11am On Apr 19, 2018 |
Mofpearl: I have a problem with some doctors (and it's mostly the fresh doctors that have this mindset) 1. If you studied other medical courses you wanted to study medicine but you were not admitted 2. This overbloated ego that is mostly not in the interest of patients. I watched clips of the press conference by the NMA yesterday and I was shocked by some things the NMA president said that's how I even knew some people were on strike. If the johesu decide to fight for better benefits or even consultancy how is that their headache. I believe for you to be a consultant you are a master in your profession simple. Nigerian healthworkers don't work in synergy, the doctors always want to prove superiority why? Everyone should work hand in hand let them do their jobs, a pharmacist is in a better position (to advice on drug related issues, that's what they are trained for. This simple thing we are dragging here costs patients their lives. A friend was having contractions and headed to the private clinic, the matron on duty saw her listened to her and told her to see the doctor. My friend said the doctor put of the light in his office and was sleeping (probably tired from a hard days job maybe he worked throughout the day or had a duty earlier at another clinic) so the matron went to the office put on the light even and told her to go in. My friend said the doctor wrote drugs (antibiotics) for her and told her to go home she said she was surprised because she felt her time was near, she said the way he was even attending to her showed he was really tired, she said she just got home and dumped the drugs somewhere. The pains started again, unbearable this time and she had to go back to the clinic past eleven, when the matron saw her this time she didn't say much but she went ahead to prepare the delivery room and wake the person that will assist her with the delivery and she told my friend that she knew she was going to come back and my friend was like why then didn't you say anything her response was "Sebi it was doctor that said you should go home now' and obviously she didn't want to tell the tired doctor to at least check my friend so that it wouldnt seem she was teaching him his job. I cringed when she was narrating this to me, I said didn't you explain you were in pains she said yes. I did fault her for going back home but then I wondered why the matron couldn't tell the tired doc not to send her back home. This is even a private setting. This was a factor that even the doctor couldn't control, he was very tired which may not necessarily be his fault and the nurse that should have called his attention to it didn't because she most likely didn't want to teach him 'his job' Patients are at the receiving end of all these. 2 Likes |
Re: Strike: "JOHESU is Selfish, They don't know what they want" must read!! by ultron12345: 7:30am On Apr 19, 2018 |
IamGoke:no need to argue. It is a well known fact that MBBS is the most competitive and difficult course to get into, and also has the highest cutoff marks in the whole school. Few years back, uniben had 12000 applicant for just less than 130 mbbs spaces. That should tell u something. |
Re: Strike: "JOHESU is Selfish, They don't know what they want" must read!! by ultron12345: 7:36am On Apr 19, 2018 |
JoannaSedley:this your hatred and envy towards doctors and medical students is too much better let go of it before it kills you. You might attend anatomy and co classes with them, but u cannot score up to 40% in their exams in those same courses. |
Re: Strike: "JOHESU is Selfish, They don't know what they want" must read!! by ultron12345: 7:40am On Apr 19, 2018 |
simtus50:the only reason johesu strike has impact is because they lock the labs, pharmacy and stores. If they leave these places open, no one will even notice their absence |
Re: Strike: "JOHESU is Selfish, They don't know what they want" must read!! by Jman06(m): 7:46am On Apr 19, 2018 |
Glitzcaret:Don't mind the foool! I'm a Pharmacy student who studied biochemistry before going back for pharmacy through direct entry. When i took my post UDE exam, my score was above the cut off point for medicine. Some uninformed folks wanted me to go for medicine instead, but having done a first degree and gained some level of exposure, I knew that Pharmacy was much better for me than medicine so i stuck to my choice. Some ignorant medical students and even doctors think that everybody who is in other healthcare professions wanted medicine but couldn't gain admission into it. The ignoramuses don't know that most of us actually prefer our chosen professions to medicine. Besides, I have seen a graduated medical doctor who came back to study Pharmacy. 7 Likes |
Re: Strike: "JOHESU is Selfish, They don't know what they want" must read!! by chucs: 7:46am On Apr 19, 2018 |
I guess this fellow is a medical student,thus this amateurish writeup. First of all no one is dragging ur position in the health sector,rather it is the other way round.Medical doctors in Nigeria wants to be the Alpha and Omega,no one is fighting them for that,all we are doing is for the fed govt. to give to us that which is rightfully ours. Each time JOHESU will go to court and win a case,the doctors would want to benefit from it whereas they were the people that fought with their might so that we dont get what is ours. About the salary structure you mentioned in ur post,you forgot to add that in the developed world for instance Canada u used as an example,no registra earn much as they are only students. Consultants are the ones that get good salaries. You make it look like Nigeria has been fair to other professionals in terms of payment. Other health professionals are also paid peanuts in this country thus the reason many nurses are trooping out of the country. Enough of the doctors dictating to the fed govt what to pay other workers cuz they are in the helm of affairs.No one wants to be paid like a doctor, we want to be paid what is rightfully ours. Please nurses do not want to drag the consultancy position with the doctors, so no need for u to panick. Nurse consultants dont even work in the clinical areas. U dont dictate to other professionals how they will climb to the zenith of their carriers. You guys should mind ur profession. You are just an employee just like everyone else,u dont take advantage of the fact that u guys are always in the head of affairs in govt to oppress other health professionals. Health promotion,prevention,treatment and rehabilitation is a teamwork and not a one man show. It is so in every developed world. The earlier you guys realise that the better. No one is dragging to be a doctor with u guys. Check out how much a nurse is paid in the developed world and compare it with what they are paid here,then u know that everyone deserves fair treatment. 2 Likes |
Re: Strike: "JOHESU is Selfish, They don't know what they want" must read!! by Visenya(f): 7:48am On Apr 19, 2018 |
All i see is a bitter microbiologist traning to become a medical doctor by all means due to the fact that Medical Scientist did not create enough space for him to rub shoulders with. Mind you, salary issue affects everybody not just doctors. Stating that doctors in Nigeria are not paid as well as doctors overseas is very funny because other health workers are not also paid as much as their fellow colleagues abroad. From your epistle, it is very clear you feel this special kind of bitterness towards Medical Scientist. If not, i wonder why you would compare a microbiologist knowlegde base to that of a Medical Scientist. A microbiologist doesn't know shit about other sectors of Medical Laboratory Science ( Chempath, Hisopath, Haemat, Immunology, BGS) he or she just focused on just a sector of Medical laboratory Science (microbiology & parasitology) which is like one fifth of what a licensed Medical Scientist studies but you claim the knowledge base is equal. Please channel your anger elsewhere so you can get the Bleep out of this cesspit of a country and practise abroad because this country does not have you in mind. So lets just say you consider my advice. Go for Australia or Canada. US and UK don cast. 3 Likes |
Re: Strike: "JOHESU is Selfish, They don't know what they want" must read!! by Areaboyfriend(m): 7:57am On Apr 19, 2018 |
Well said! |
Re: Strike: "JOHESU is Selfish, They don't know what they want" must read!! by ultron12345: 8:10am On Apr 19, 2018 |
naijaking1:dont mind them. Nigerian pharmacists ought to b ashamed of themselves. They are so incompetent to the extent that all they can do is to dispense drugs that were manufactured in China and India, they can't make anything. Useless people. |
Re: Strike: "JOHESU is Selfish, They don't know what they want" must read!! by eleojo23: 8:19am On Apr 19, 2018 |
ultron12345: The more this guy talks, the more ignorance he displays. Pharmacists can do much more than dispensing within the hospital but you guys will not allow them...even when they want to make suggestions and inputs, you guys feel that they are challenging you. So most times they just mind their business and dispense. Who get time to be rubbing shoulders with immature people? But unfortunately, the patient suffers it. That is why many pharmacists prefer to practice in the community setting (I guess you don't even know what that means) 4 Likes |
Re: Strike: "JOHESU is Selfish, They don't know what they want" must read!! by sidnen: 8:30am On Apr 19, 2018 |
ultron12345:Tomorrow this one will also call himself a professional From all your senseless posts on this thread, it's obvious you struggled or are struggling through med school. Once you eventually succeed in graduating from med school, open up your mind, stay humble so that you will learn from other professionals. Trust me your knowledge of anything drugs doesn't come close to that of a pharmacist. 6 Likes |
Re: Strike: "JOHESU is Selfish, They don't know what they want" must read!! by sidnen: 8:32am On Apr 19, 2018 |
eleojo23:That guy is obviously still in school The guy is still talking about jamb scores |
Re: Strike: "JOHESU is Selfish, They don't know what they want" must read!! by honourwealth(m): 8:40am On Apr 19, 2018 |
naijaking1:n naijaking1:n naijaking1:n you are not justify to put mouth in the matter arise in a country you ran away from base on the decision known to you. you're just a mere diaspora who know next to nothing about the country anymore. if you want to be a mouthpiece why not for whole whole Nigerians with your experience in wherever you're now when you compare their standard of living with our dearest Country |
Re: Strike: "JOHESU is Selfish, They don't know what they want" must read!! by ultron12345: 8:42am On Apr 19, 2018 |
sidnen:taaaaaaaah.......because u pple know chemical formulas of drugs, keep deceiving urself |
Re: Strike: "JOHESU is Selfish, They don't know what they want" must read!! by phase1: 8:57am On Apr 19, 2018 |
naijaking1: There is nothing like 'national association of med lab'. You called yourself a med tech...no Med lab Scientist calls himself that in Nigeria. I'd bet you read SLT microbiology. Medical Scientists in UK, Australia, US also become consultants in their fields. There are Doctor of Clinical lab science (D.CLS) in the US and other advanced countries. Ghana have are today graduating D.MLS Scientists even though Nigeria started the proposal but because the physicians felt threatened they used their member in the NUC Dr Ahmadu Alli of the NUC governing board to thwart it, this is just one among other things they've denied other health workers. |
Re: Strike: "JOHESU is Selfish, They don't know what they want" must read!! by mylifeisagift(m): 8:57am On Apr 19, 2018 |
eleojo23:Dummy!! Nigerian trained Doctors are the best..Go figure and stop ranting like a market woman. |
Re: Strike: "JOHESU is Selfish, They don't know what they want" must read!! by eleojo23: 8:59am On Apr 19, 2018 |
mylifeisagift: Ok..sir.
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Re: Strike: "JOHESU is Selfish, They don't know what they want" must read!! by ritzyrita: 8:59am On Apr 19, 2018 |
I am a social worker in a federal tertiary institution and i must say that the OP is soo unfair in his post?no other health practitioner is equating with a medical doctor we are not asking to receive as much as they do we re only asking for a levelled playing ground..as i social worker with a B.SW i m started on CONHESS 7 with a salary of 81k while a house officer that has not gone for NYSC earns over 180k is this fair?my boss just retired as a Director of Social Services she started her career wit a B.Sc Sociology and with over 34 years of active service and her salary until retirement was 300k thats not up to what a resident undergoing training earns..is this also fair?the desire to study ur discipline is your choice..i shouldnt b made to suffer for my decision to b a social worker i am not asking for the 500k salary used to start a consultant or the 300k paid to a Resident Doctor undergoing a 5 year residency programme(schooling) i am asking to at least start me on d 150 or #180k u start a House officer who havent served his father land while i go ve graduated and served my fathers' land honourably 5 Likes |
Re: Strike: "JOHESU is Selfish, They don't know what they want" must read!! by phase1: 9:07am On Apr 19, 2018 |
selch: Even South Africa pays it's lowest Med lab Scientists 217,000 rands per year that about 7 million naira per annum. Every medical profession are better paid abroad, not just physicians. Pharmacists, Scientists, nurses, optometrists all leave for greener pastures. So they need to stop playing the 'big pay abroad' card. |
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