rubbish.... is like telling some one who studied accounting in the University to receive more wages than a chattered accountant... professionalism in Nigeria is taking lightly. until your relation is sick in the hospital and there isn't a doctor to tell those idiots what to do, then your brain that seem to have been use to fry akara will find its way back to the empty skull. All my relations abroad buys as low as panadol with them when traveling back because they wont find a pharmacist to just walked in and demand for drugs unless a doctor recommended prescription. Go do you findings, no pharmacist or its likes can ever understands what Doctors are trained to do. forget all those stupid argument. they are help-meet. if you where trained to hold the leg for me to successfully work on it, do we have the same training. i work as an accountant but not chattered, but i have learn to respect the chattered haven gone through some of the classes. if you want to be a Doctor go back to school and stop this parochial argument. when we were young, when u see a Doctor you think they are next to God and are pride to any family were they are from. where did this political JOHASU nonsense came from? After reading microbiology like someone who read philosophy for 4 years you want to be addressed as Doctors and receive their salary.... you must be mad

shullamite:
At least its clear where the problem in the health sector is coming from now. The doctors don't want other staff to enjoy a little increament of salary even after government has increased their slararies more than Three times in in four years. This is just a case of wickedness and man's inhumanity to man. The doctors are not the employer of labour but they are telling government what to do. It's a case of eating alone and wanting other people to die of hunger even though there is excess food to serve everybody. Let the world see how wicked the doctors are in Nigeria.

Let me tell you the truth early this year the government of Canada increased doctors salary but the doctors refused the increament and told the government to use the money to pay other health workers and improve the facilities in the hospitals for patients to enjoy. But in Nigeria the case is opposite.

hydeka:


Pharmacy student? Smh...

I have been in the profession for a few years now and I know the situation.
What you are talking about was obtainable in the past but not anymore. And Nigerians are becoming more aware that they can get more out of their pharmacist than they previously realised especially the enlightened ones.

And for the record, I chose to study Pharmacy and I don't regret it one bit. So much diversity unlike doctors who are stuck in the hospital. Every passing day, I thank God that I am a pharmacist.

Don't allow anyone to belittle you.
Pharmacy is a noble and respected profession.
Wicked Nigeria doctors have tried to pull down that profession due to insecurities but to no avail.
Pharmacy is versatile.
Many pharmacists don't work in a hospital sef.
They connect themselves to a foreign pharm industry as their Nigerian rep and make money,
Some take loan and establish their big pharmacy.
Big pharmacy make more profits weekly than 90% of private hospitals.
Have you seen a pharmacist in a private hospital before?
It's beneath them.
If you formulate one drug product and sell, it's millions.
Hold your head high.
You are in a wonderful profession.

Freddonance:


Funny enough, those doctors know more of the indications of drugs than u do... A doctor prescribes a drug for it side effect for the therapeutic benefit of the patient u claim it's a wrong prescription. Who then do we say know much about drug the doctor that knows the clinical aspect of the patient & what he/she should benefit from or the pharmacist that do not know the pathological basis of the prescription hence rushed into saying, it's a wrong prescription

Do you even no what prescription errors are

Hairyrapunzel:


So pharmacists now know the diseases and their treatment because they dispense drugs? Nigerians are funny people. I know you are a pharmacist.
Most Nigerian trained pharmacists and lab scientists will not want to practice in developed countries because these countries will not condone wrong practice. Nigerian pharmacist and lab scientists and even nurses make up a large proportion of the quack doctors you have in this country.
Want to form medical doctor when they are not.

Your stupidity is legendary!
The problem is that you don't know other roles of the pharmacists in the hospital setting outside handing out dispensed drugs to patients.

Do you know that some drugs are prepared right there in the pharmacy department?? Do you know that you don't just hand out a drug to a patient, you counsel the patient and follow up his/her treatment by ensuring adherence to the prescription.
Do you know that pharmacists are supposed to go on rounds in the hospital to monitor in-patients on how they respond to drug therapy?? Afterwards, they communicate with the physicians on possible adjustments to be made??

Your ignorance is why many patients keep dying avoidable deaths in our hospitals due to drug misuse. How i wish pharmacists would begin to point out numerous prescription blunders physicians make in our hospitals to the public, may be then you would get to know their importance in the hospitals. But they would rather cover up your aszes.

chieyine:

Thank U


The door is open for anyone who wishes to be a doctor

i know that a lot of health care professionals are usually fighting with doctors but the guys post was more intelligent and rational than your responses

Nigerian doctors are quite naive in their thinking.

Striking by doctors will achieve NOTHING.


Doctors need to realise that they are not the only group whose going on strike paralyses hospital activity.
If Nurses go on strike at LUTH then work shuts down , this is equally true for other professsionals so if importance is to be judged by who can shut the hospital down by withdrawing their services then no one is more important.


This attitude of Nigerian doctors gets many of them into trouble when they travel abroad and have to work in multidisciplinary teams where doctors are not the head.


In my thinking Government should hands off Hospital Management and let it go to the private sector then Market forces will determine who gets paid what.
The reason this is happening is because it is public sector.


In the private sector demand and supply will determine pay.

The idea of relativity as sacrosanct is a very stupid one.

If I am running a hospital business I pay you for output.
The issue is not only about pay difference between professions but even WITHN professions.

If a surgeon perfoms 1000 procedures a year and another 200 should they receive the same pay?

The reality is that Nigeria can never have enough doctors and increasingly we will have independent non medical practitioners having their own caseload.

To my mind they could earn more than doctors if they are bringing in the money. That is the essence of performance related pay.

You come into my establishment and get paid fom revenue you generate. Those who generate more revenue should earn more. In such a regime a junior doctor could earn more than his supervisor/ boss.

Welcome to the 21st century

In the UK the public hospitals run a CEO and not a CMD model. The CEO is alsmost never a doctor and is more likely to be a Nurse.

Fellow Nigerians, I have been reading your posts/comments since this strike commenced. I strongly believe NMA needs to search their mind well and breed new generation of doctors. The breed/generation that promote justice, that cherish equity and loves fairness. Or else, wholistic and qualitative health care will persistently be a mirage to Nigerians. No society/sector where OPPRESSION AND SUPPRESSION prevail experience good growth and development. Nigeria health sector is one.

You may which to know / confirm these facts:

Are you aware that a Cleaner who makes the clinic comfortable for the medical doctors to work earn between than N 19,000-24,000 a month? Are you saying a doctor can earn 30-50 times the salary of a cleaners/lower cadre health workers and 6-12 times the salary of other health professionals? where in the good world do you see that? Further Increasing inequality gap would not do Nigeria society any good!

Medical doctors got salary increase in 2014 and another one recently to be effective from Jan 2018, skipped almost 2 times; Infact NMA members have benefited from pay rise about 3 times in four years, with arrears paid.
I WONDER WHY SOME PEOPLE ARE SUPPORTING ACT OF WICKEDNESS THAT HAS BEDEVILED ALMOST EVERY SEGMENTS OF THE NIGERIA SOCIETY? THIS IS EVIL THAT MUST BE CONDEMNED BY ALL. THIS IS PURELY MAN INHUMANITY TO MAN!

The relativity we are talking about has always been taken care by the provisions from ''Establishment office'.--
Are you aware that a clinician health worker on the same grade level collect half and in some case less than half of the call duty of a medical doctor, on same level?

Are you aware that other health workers- graduates have GL7-10 depending on profession, as their entry point into the public service while medical doctor has GL 12 and a medical specialist (consultant) has GL15 as their entry point.

Do you know that there is an allowance which is called specialist allowance which only medical doctors collect? That allowance in itself is more than the salary of many health professionals.

Do you also know that resident doctors in many of the developed nation collect lesser pay than senior health professionals?In addition, do you know that medical doctors and other health professionals in the same pay band earn the same salaries? Check out UK NHS pay band.

Do you know that medical practitioners work in other sectors of Nigeria society and their consolidated basic pay with other professionals are the same? that ALLOWANCES, ENTRY POINTS INTO SERVICE Differentiate what each professional take home? Check it out with NNPC, CBN, IMMIGRATION etc. The same is obtainable in the salary scale being used at the MINISTRY OF HEALTH.

How can two party signed an agreement that is binding on the third party without the knowledge and presence of the third party? How can such an agreement be enforced on the third party whose right to freedom, expression and collective bargaining is enshrined in the law of the land and best practices in the world?

How can another employer in the same sector determine and fix the salary of another employer in the sector? who is the arbiter?

They tell the public lies that JOHESU is asking for equal pay with medical doctors, that even cleaners want to be a consultant. How on earth could leaders be telling such lies in order to perpetuate evil plot? Prior to 2014, was the pay ever equal? NO! JOHESU was simply asking, 'increase my own too like my colleagues; we go to the same market and we work in the same sector''.--JUSTICE EQUITY FAIRNESS, simple!

All these are verifiable facts which you can confirm in case you and many others are ignorant about the reason for the strike and persistent problem in the Nigeria health sector.

LET'S ALL REASON TOGETHER AND STOP THE PLAN TO KILL OTHER PROFESSIONS IN THE HEALTH SECTOR IN NIGERIA; THIS PLAN CAN ONLY INCREASE THE WOES OF THE NATION--Poorer quality in term of care, increase desertion of other health profession aside Medicine, increase unemployment, increase hatred and animosity, increase insecurity within and outside the system, a poorer nation etc

HEALTH SYSTEM IN NIGERIA CAN ONLY THRIVE AND POSITIVELY AFFECT THE LIVES OF NIGERIAN AND NIGERIA ECONOMY WHEN JUSTICE, EQUITY AND FAIRNESS ARE ALLOWED TO REIGN SUPREME IN OUR DECISION MAKING PROCESSES.

GOD BLESS EVERYONE SUPPORTING JUSTICE, EQUITY AND FAIRNESS TO ALL!

greatehis:
rubbish.... is like telling some one who studied accounting in the University to receive more wages than a chattered accountant... professionalism in Nigeria is taking lightly. until your relation is sick in the hospital and there isn't a doctor to tell those idiots what to do, then your brain that seem to have been use to fry akara will find its way back to the empty skull. All my relations abroad buys as low as panadol with them when traveling back because they wont find a pharmacist to just walked in and demand for drugs unless a doctor recommended prescription. Go do you findings, no pharmacist or its likes can ever understands what Doctors are trained to do. forget all those stupid argument. they are help-meet. if you where trained to hold the leg for me to successfully work on it, do we have the same training. i work as an accountant but not chattered, but i have learn to respect the chattered haven gone through some of the classes. if you want to be a Doctor go back to school and stop this parochial argument. when we were young, when u see a Doctor you think they are next to God and are pride to any family were they are from. where did this political JOHASU nonsense came from? After reading microbiology like someone who read philosophy for 4 years you want to be addressed as Doctors and receive their salary.... you must be mad

Look at a hungry accountant talking.
Go to the street and see many jobless accountancy graduates.
Even an auxiliary nurse who is a quack has more job opportunities than many accountancy graduates.
Keep quiet pls.
Who knows una.
All professional courses in johesu are respected more than accountants,
Can you talk when a pharmacist introduce himself in public,
Even as a graduate nurse, I am respected in the society far than you.
Have a sit pls.
This post is about those in the health sector.
You are not needed here.
Accountant my foot!

ocelot2006:


You want to place a Nurse/Porter on the same salary scale as a Doctor?

Have you ever heard a Constable/Private (Rank and File) earn the same salary as a Superintendent/Lieutenant (officer corps)

Or craftsmen/technicians earn more than degree holding engineers?

JOHESU's demand is simply absurd, and borne out of out greed and jealousy. It takes years and huge capital to become a Doctor, even far more than most professionals. And they are given far more responsibilities. Yet some folks from Nursing school want to earn same pay just because they learnt how to use injection. Nonsense.

it didnt tk oda professionals years and their training wasn't capital intensive? hw ignorant can one b nd yet spew trash in confidence

Jman06:
Your stupidity is legendary!
The problem is that you don't know other roles of the pharmacists in the hospital setting outside handing out dispensed drugs to patients.

Do you know that some drugs are prepared right there in the pharmacy department?? Do you know that you don't just hand out a drug to a patient, you counsel the patient and follow up his/her treatment by ensuring adherence to the prescription.
Do you know that pharmacists are supposed to go on rounds in the hospital to monitor in-patients on how they respond to drug therapy?? Afterwards, they communicate with the physicians on possible adjustments to be made??

Your ignorance is why many patients keep dying avoidable deaths in our hospitals due to drug misuse. How i wish pharmacists would begin to point out numerous prescription blunders physicians make in our hospitals to the public, may be then you would get to know their importance in the hospitals. But they would rather cover up your aszes.

Why stressing yourself over them.
They want to suppress pharmacy profession because it's more versatile.
Ignore them .
Many pharmacists I know don't work in a hospital.
They are making their money outside.
Ignore them, the heat is on them.
The real doctors are surgeons,
Other ones services are very dispensable .
They know that deep inside themselves

Freddonance:



My dear, a pharmacist knows less than 1/1000 of what a doctor knows.
when doctors are discussing medicine a pharmacist will comprehend far less than one tenth(1/10) of what is discussed that is if he will understand it at all. The gap of knowledge between a doctor & a pharmacist is immeasurable.

Lie of the century

MrBigiman:


It's already that way dude. Moreover a nurse cannot be specialist in Oncology, she makes no single decision the specialist does. Even if she has spent 20years, a Senior registrar who has spent 3 yrs in oncology should earn more. A Doctor trumps every other person in the hospital, the hospital was built for him and patients troop in to see him. All other thrashy workers should do his bidding or resign. If they want to be doctors they should have passed Jamb. 90% of Lab scientist filled in Medicine at one time or the other for God sake, so also 98% of male BSC Nurses, the non graduate nurses went to nursing school because they were too dumb to pass Jamb, today they want to be on the same salary scale as Doctor. Pure stupidity!

your post started well by reflecting the natural law that compensation shold be proportanl to accountability. He who makes decisions and is accountable for the impact of the decision should earn more than he who executes. Thats why managers earn more.

However, the end of your post took the typical cocky and insulting approach. you call your colleagues "thrashy", insinuate that they were not intelligent enough to go to study medicine (or go to university at all).

This Nma people 're enemies of progress. How will they not want the government to increase the salary of other health workers. Fight for increase in your own salary and stop putting others down. The sky is big enough for every one to fly .

eleojo23:


Nurse practitioners in Nigeria?
That is a fight for another day

You don't mean it

The Nigeria government is not ready to sanitized the UNPRODUCTIVE Health Sector. If the Nigeria Health Sector is so great,our President will not be in the UK presently for medical attention. I can't remember any president of any country who comes to Nigeria for medical attention. Until the government value the lives of her citizens and finally sanitizes the smelling health sector by setting up Hospital Administrators things will not change. NMA and JOHESU my foot.

You study for 1000years but your president is being treated abroad. All your professionalism has comma and question mark.

All these useless doctors...That's how one told me I had Ischaemic heart disease(UBTH). Had to book an appointment with Doctor Obasohan(Former UBTH CMD). He literally laughed so hard when we told him what the idiot doctor said.

Amarabae:

Don't allow anyone to belittle you.
Pharmacy is a noble and respected profession.
Wicked Nigeria doctors have tried to pull down that profession due to insecurities but to no avail.
Pharmacy is versatile.
Many pharmacists don't work in a hospital sef.
They connect themselves to a foreign pharm industry as their Nigerian rep and make money,
Some take loan and establish their big pharmacy.
Big pharmacy make more profits weekly than 90% of private hospitals.
Have you seen a pharmacist in a private hospital before?
It's beneath them.
If you formulate one drug product and sell, it's millions.
Hold your head high.
You are in a wonderful profession.

Thank you!
You know the drill...
If pharmacists are after money, the hospital is the last place they will look. They have no idea how much money there is in pharmacy.

These ignorant docs be forming yeye boss

MrBigiman:


And they bribed their way thru MBs and clinicals and Vivas with the OSces too. Shift

YES, very very possible

Freddonance:



My dear, a pharmacist knows less than 1/1000 of what a doctor knows.
when doctors are discussing medicine a pharmacist will comprehend far less than one tenth(1/10) of what is discussed that is if he will understand it at all. The gap of knowledge between a doctor & a pharmacist is immeasurable.

maybe because the phamarcist doesnt need that knowledge. And I am very sure the doctor would know less about the chemical composition and manufacturing processes around the drugs themselves.

NMA & JOHESU need to cooperate without the pride on the NMA side and envy/bitterness on the JOHESU side.

Afrocentric:
YES, very very possible

Especially when they repeatedly fail peadiatrics and pharmacology

greatehis:
rubbish.... is like telling some one who studied accounting in the University to receive more wages than a chattered accountant... professionalism in Nigeria is taking lightly. until your relation is sick in the hospital and there isn't a doctor to tell those idiots what to do, then your brain that seem to have been use to fry akara will find its way back to the empty skull. All my relations abroad buys as low as panadol with them when traveling back because they wont find a pharmacist to just walked in and demand for drugs unless a doctor recommended prescription. Go do you findings, no pharmacist or its likes can ever understands what Doctors are trained to do. forget all those stupid argument. they are help-meet. if you where trained to hold the leg for me to successfully work on it, do we have the same training. i work as an accountant but not chattered, but i have learn to respect the chattered haven gone through some of the classes. if you want to be a Doctor go back to school and stop this parochial argument. when we were young, when u see a Doctor you think they are next to God and are pride to any family were they are from. where did this political JOHASU nonsense came from? After reading microbiology like someone who read philosophy for 4 years you want to be addressed as Doctors and receive their salary.... you must be mad

since u re comparing d nigerian system with what's obtainable abroad which is d best practices, why shld u just tk a one sided analogy dt seems to favour d med drs if u ain't biased in ur submission. that place u re making comparison wit, dey hv clinical pharmacist which d docs here wldnt want, dey hv consultant nurses nd pharmacist aswell which d nigerian med drs re opposed to hving here. infact if we cn operate just as their health system is operated, i do nt think there wld b disharmony in d nigerian health care system . nxt tym try nt b biased in ur submissions. as regards ur analogy terming oda professionals as help meet fr d med dr is faulty. they re rendering their services to d pt nd nt d dr. u shld go get a street person to hlp u do d job dt oda professionals render nd pay dem frm ur pockect if u want sm1 dt wld serve u while carrying out ur duty as a med. all professionals re employed by d govt to serve d pts nt med drs

Freddonance:



My dear, a pharmacist knows less than 1/1000 of what a doctor knows.
when doctors are discussing medicine a pharmacist will comprehend far less than one tenth(1/10) of what is discussed that is if he will understand it at all. The gap of knowledge between a doctor & a pharmacist is immeasurable.

The make of this statement is very young. There is so much that even caterer know that doctors do not know that is why they are DIFFERENT. So to say one knows 1/1000 of what the other knows is foolishness.
Are we talking of the empty headed unscrupulous letmypeoplego doctors churned out by Nigerian doctors who graduate by cheating? Even the postgraduate examinations we hear are not immune


Nigerian Doctors know what they read in books.
This is the internet era anyone can learn anything online.

MBBS is an entry level qualification to actually start learning medicine but too many Nigerian doctors stagnate after MBBS and are actually dangers to society.

Let us take Gynaecology?

How many so called Consultant Gynaecologists in Nigeria have ever seen a colposcope?

In the UK there are over 200 trained colposcopy nurses.

MBBS is not a DNA you have to update and keep learning . Many doctors like to pretend that somehow acquiring an MBBS transforms an indivdual.
The reality is what occurs in Nigerian medicine is just a notch above witchcraft.

Nigerian doctors need to learn humility and team working.


The fundamental problem most Nigerians and Nigerians doctors too have s they do not accept their limits and would never say

I don't know but like to pretend they know everything.
How many doctors know anything about sport injuries and their management especially where the management involves manipulation and physical modalities?



As far as pay is concerned I think doctors should get paid more if they take more responsibility however if the market s accepting for other people to have oerall charge of specific clinical scenarios then so be it and in such cases the relevant clinician, whether they are a nurse or physiotherapist should be paid a refleection of what income they generate.

Freddonance:



My dear, a pharmacist knows less than 1/1000 of what a doctor knows.
when doctors are discussing medicine a pharmacist will comprehend far less than one tenth(1/10) of what is discussed that is if he will understand it at all. The gap of knowledge between a doctor & a pharmacist is immeasurable.

The maker of this statement is very young. There is so much that even a caterer know that doctors do not know that is why they are DIFFERENT.
So to say one knows 1/1000 of what the other knows is foolishness.

CAN A DOCTOR DO A PHARMACISTS or a TECHNICIANS JOB?
Are we talking of the empty headed unscrupulous letmypeoplego doctors churned out by Nigerian doctors who graduate by cheating? Even the postgraduate examinations we hear are not immune


Nigerian Doctors know what they read in books.
This is the internet era anyone can learn anything online.

MBBS is an entry level qualification to actually start learning medicine but too many Nigerian doctors stagnate after MBBS and are actually dangers to society.

Let us take Gynaecology?

How many so called Consultant Gynaecologists in Nigeria have ever seen a colposcope?

In the UK there are over 200 trained colposcopy nurses.

MBBS is not a DNA you have to update and keep learning . Many doctors like to pretend that somehow acquiring an MBBS transforms an indivdual.
The reality is what occurs in Nigerian medicine is just a notch above witchcraft.

Nigerian doctors need to learn humility and team working.


The fundamental problem most Nigerians and Nigerians doctors too have s they do not accept their limits and would never say

I don't know but like to pretend they know everything.
How many doctors know anything about sport injuries and their management especially where the management involves manipulation and physical modalities?
How many doctors know the procedure for examination of rape victims?


As far as pay is concerned I think doctors should get paid more if they take more responsibility however if the market s accepting for other people to have oerall charge of specific clinical scenarios then so be it and in such cases the relevant clinician, whether they are a nurse or physiotherapist should be paid a refleection of what income they generate.

shullamite:
At least its clear where the problem in the health sector is coming from now. The doctors don't want other staff to enjoy a little increament of salary even after government has increased their slararies more than Three times in in four years. This is just a case of wickedness and man's inhumanity to man. The doctors are not the employer of labour but they are telling government what to do. It's a case of eating alone and wanting other people to die of hunger even though there is excess food to serve everybody. Let the world see how wicked the doctors are in Nigeria.

Let me tell you the truth early this year the government of Canada increased doctors salary but the doctors refused the increament and told the government to use the money to pay other health workers and improve the facilities in the hospitals for patients to enjoy. But in Nigeria the case is opposite.

They are not fighting for a lil increment in their salaries, they are asking for equal pay with doctors. I'm not a doctor mind you, but tell me, how possible is that. Its like asking that a Pharmacologist and a lab technician be put on the same pay.

hydeka:


Thank you!
You know the drill...
If pharmacists are after money, the hospital is the last place they will look. They have no idea how much money there is in pharmacy.

These ignorant docs be forming yeye boss

Ask them why many doctors are opening pharmacy in order to make some money

Amarabae:

Don't allow anyone to belittle you.
Pharmacy is a noble and respected profession.
Wicked Nigeria doctors have tried to pull down that profession due to insecurities but to no avail.
Pharmacy is versatile.
Many pharmacists don't work in a hospital sef.
They connect themselves to a foreign pharm industry as their Nigerian rep and make money,
Some take loan and establish their big pharmacy.
Big pharmacy make more profits weekly than 90% of private hospitals.
Have you seen a pharmacist in a private hospital before?
It's beneath them.
If you formulate one drug product and sell, it's millions.
Hold your head high.
You are in a wonderful profession.

Asin eh... Every blessed day, I feel glad that I choose pharmacy over medicine. The opportunities are so numerous and so breathtaking

rollymore2016:

how much are Nigerian Doctors being paid to start with

they are not even well compensated and might never be because they and JOHESU spend more time fighting each other then justifying their relevance

obi4eze:
NMA are very greedy set of people.

I'm so happy to know that the general public is becoming aware of the greediness of these set of people.

Please read the letter again. I'd even suggest you conduct an independent research on what led to this. A lil boy asking to be served exactly like his dad. So, if daddy eats two pieces of beef, he must have same.
A union is free to ask for increment in salaries, but you can't say the FG must pay you the same way others are being paid. Could this people (nurses/pharmacists etc) ask that the FG be paying the wardmaids/cleaners in the hospital the exact pay they are receiving. Propose that and see what their reactions would be.

TINO26:
Johesu has never asked to be paid same thing with the doctors, all they are asking is an increase to their pay!, I still can't understand why NMA is threatened with these demands,...allow others to grow there profession, and stop punishing the indigent patients!,...Are you guys the only professionals in this country?

I disagree on that. They are asking for equal pay with doctors. Do you even know that they stopped their previous fight when they lost in court. The other time, they were clamoring that they too want to be appointed at CMDs....Chief Medical Directors...Imagine. Is that even possible?
My dear friend, so you see, some things are not clear to many. Issues plenty gannnn ni

You are right! But please be rational in your submissions. Firstly, nobody forced anybody to read medicine. So do not use the alleged difficult nature of the course as reason to cheat others. Every course is difficult too.
Now there is a difference between managing a hospital and heading a medical team. By requirements, clinically, the doctors lead the team. Nobody is disputing that. Where the problem lies is in this illustration below.
The Medical team can be compared to a football team, where there is a manager(coach), Captain of the team and the other players. In the health system, there are administrators(Managers) who run the affairs of the hospital, the doctors are the captain of the clinical team, with patient wellness as the goal of the team and the other members of the health team play essential roles. Every team member is as important as the captain(Doctor). The problem with the Nigerian health system is that the doctor is both the manager and Captain. What will happen in a team when the captain begins to tell the manager who should play and who should not. Calamity is what surely will happen.
Now listen, Every profession in the medical sector have fellowship programs and postgraduate programs that would also require them to pass through and make a decent grade before being promoted and all what not as is seen with the doctors but they the doctors keep stifling it. the difference in years of study between the physician other medical professionals is just 1 year. Every body's role in the health sector is very important. in advanced world, specialty is the way forward but here in Nigeria only the doctors want to specialize, they are the only ones fit for free residence program. Liberate other professionals, stop stifling them. They are only destroying the health system but also killing the innocent masses. It is greed for you to want a fresh doctor graduate to earn more than another health professional with 20 years experience. Do you know that the residence program restricted to doctors enables them to grow financially as they climb the grading ladder through the residence program and become a consultant earning millions whereas other health professionals do not have such.
The fact that doctors are the Public Relation Officers of the health team, interacting and conveying the teams message does not mean they are more important. We all would not have to leave our duty post to see a patient. The duty was assigned for smooth operation of the team not for lack of competency of the others.
Let doctors concentrate in leading the health team and achieving patient wellness rather than intruding in every nook and crannies of the hospital, wanting to head even the security post.

dechriscool:
The gang up against doctors is not only by allied health workers but also by some Nigerians. I did a post about how JOHESU members beat up Doctors at NAUTH just to registered their graviances against doctors in course o f this their strike .That post didn't see the day light.

However,the disparity in salary structure between doctors and JOHESU members can't be overemphasized.Read the statement of facts below to guard on the activities in the hospital

THE PATIENT COMES TO THE HOSPITAL TO SEE THE DOCTOR.

There are three group of people in the Hospital worldwide;

1. Doctor
2. Patients
3. Hospital support staff.

-A patient comes to a medical emergency unit rushed by his relatives.
-The DOCTOR sends for his file/folder to be retrieved by the MEDICAL RECORDS STAFF.
-The DOCTOR takes history from PATIENT and examines the PATIENT.
-The DOCTOR makes a diagnosis (or set of diagnosis-differential diagnosis).
-The DOCTOR asks the PHARMACIST to supply the drugs for the particular disease.
-The DOCTOR asks the NURSE to administer the drugs.
-The DOCTOR asks the PATIENT to go to Radiology department to do an X-RAY/CT-SCAN.
-The DOCTOR in the Radiology department (RADIOLOGIST) asks the RADIOGRAPHER to do the X-ray. The DOCTOR in the Radiology department (RADIOLOGIST) interprets the X-ray and writes a report to be taken to the DOCTOR in the Emergency.
-The DOCTOR in the Emergency unit uses the X-ray report to further treat the patient.
-The DOCTOR sends the PATIENT to the laboratory to do some tests.
-The DOCTOR in the laboratory (PATHOLOGIST) asks the LABORATORY SCIENTIST or LABORATORY TECHNICIAN to do the test or do the test himself if necessary.
The DOCTOR in the laboratory (PATHOLOGIST) interprets the report and sends the patient back to the doctor in the emergency.
-The DOCTOR evaluates the patient and asks for more drugs from the PHARMACY for the NURSE to administer.
-The DOCTOR admits the patient to the ward if patient is not good to go or discharges the patient if he is good.
-THE DOCTOR in the ward keeps on seeing the patient and evaluating his needs. THE DOCTOR calls for the assistance of the NURSE, PHARMACIST, LABORATORY SCIENTIST/TECHNICIAN, RADIOGRAPHER when the need arises.
But there is always a need for the DOCTOR to be in CONTACT with the progress of the patient.
-THE DOCTOR DISCHARGES the PATIENT home or CERTIFIES him dead as the case may be.

IT BEGINS WITH THE DOCTOR and PATIENT from admission and ends with DOCTOR and PATIENT on discharge from the hospital.

1. DOCTORS WORLDWIDE are LEADERS of the health sector in the best of centers.
-Google LIST OF BEST HOSPITALS IN THE WORLD.
A list of many hospital according to ranking would come up.
-Take the first 5, or 10, or 20 hospitals ONE BY ONE.
-For each hospital Google it's leadership.
-All would show you that the doctor is the head.
The CEO/CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER of all the hospitals have MD or MBBS as their basic qualification. (Most of these doctors have no any other non-medical qualification).

PLEASE GOOGLE FOR YOURSELF
-THE BEST HOSPITALS in the world.
-Then LEADERSHIP OF EACH HOSPITAL.

2.)DOCTORS ARE PAID FAR BETTER THAN OTHER SUPPORT STAFF WORLDWIDE.
This pay gets far different when the DOCTOR is a SPECIALIST: CONSULTANT (UK/INDIA) or an ATTENDING PHYSICIAN (USA).

Google the best hospitals in the world and the salary of the workers.

Google for yourself.
Do not be fed with lies.

3.) CAREER PROGRESSION for DOCTORS.
Doctors have two pathways for progression in Nigeria:
i. NORMAL CIVIL SERVICE where you are promoted to the next grade after every 3years.
ii. POSTGRADUATE MEDICAL EDUCATION, where you enroll into residency and is only promoted after rigorous academic and practical training and passing of professional examinations.
After NYSC the doctor pays heavily to write an exam called primaries. After the primaries he/she undergo extensive training as a REGISTRAR and after 3-5years write the PART 1 exams to become a SENIOR REGISTRAR. After another 3-5years he writes another exam to become a FELLOW/CONSULTANT. Each of PART 1 and 2 exams advance the doctor only one grade level (e.g Part 1 exam after 3-5 years moves a DOCTOR from grade 12 to 13. Part 2 after another 3-5moves a doctor from grade 13-14).
The pass rate of these exams generally is between 10-30%.
Its difficult to progress through the postgraduate pathway. You may spend more than 6years without promotion.

GOOGLE THE TRUTH.

MrBigiman:


It's already that way dude. Moreover a nurse cannot be specialist in Oncology, she makes no single decision the specialist does. Even if she has spent 20years, a Senior registrar who has spent 3 yrs in oncology should earn more. A Doctor trumps every other person in the hospital, the hospital was built for him and patients troop in to see him. All other thrashy workers should do his bidding or resign. If they want to be doctors they should have passed Jamb. 90% of Lab scientist filled in Medicine at one time or the other for God sake, so also 98% of male BSC Nurses, the non graduate nurses went to nursing school because they were too dumb to pass Jamb, today they want to be on the same salary scale as Doctor. Pure stupidity!

You need to stop feeling fly Mr doctor, calling people dunces cos they didn't meet the score for studying medicine in our cap schools.

Stephen Hawkins died and the whole world shook when last did any doctor die and the whole world mourned?

The solar system does not revolve around doctors, wake up and smell the coffee.

Your attitude is rotten and feeling that everyone is inferior to you cos you are a doctor means your IQ is very low and you will end up slaving away for nothing.

Without other supporting disciplines the doctor is nothing but a blunt are that can't do jacksquat.

Get off your high horse and be humble, how many discoveries do doctors Make? Do you not know many physical scientists give their lifetimes to their work and research?

You may think you're brilliant but I promise you're very unintelligent, ignorant and lack wisdom

This is to show how wicked we Nigerians can be, who are they to dictate to what government should do? If the body concern should yield to their evil manipulations, then, they are fools. Come to think of it, i have witnessed a case were a nurse and pharmacist on different occasions corrected doctors prescription before she can attend to the sick person. What makes them believe they are better than others, everybody contributes his own quota? Imagine, while doctors in Canada are protesting that their pay is too much as against other medical personnel and fighting for better pay for none doctors in medical fields. This is telling us how wicked our doctors can be, while they are thinking of humiliating the nurses and others, they are either miss prescribing, forget forceps in patient after operation and hide evils done to patient and leave them to either die or suffer for life. The other medical personnel should go on strike if government should act on their evil demand. Fools, selfish, wickedness and heartless group of people.