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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by armyofone(m): 7:10pm On Nov 30, 2020
It is shame/ego that is catching him grin

AmazonTopaz:


After sowing doubt in the election grin lol.

I hope their voters don't turn out.

If the dems like let them foolishly sit down and not send Obama,Kamala and Biden there.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by happney65: 7:41pm On Nov 30, 2020
Breaking news: Arizona certified its election results on Monday, giving President-elect Joe Biden a win in yet another state where President Trump has contested the voting.

Source--Washington post

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by edi287: 7:55pm On Nov 30, 2020
Arizona officially certifies Biden's win. Another L for orange Ronald Reagan...

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by PDPGuy: 8:02pm On Nov 30, 2020
The Trump campaign has 8 more days to continue wasting their supporters money by filing frivolous lawsuits grin

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 8:15pm On Nov 30, 2020
Iamgrey5:
@ emboldened

Bush decided Iraq alone along with Powell and Rice.

He talked about Saddam Usian having a "mobile Nuclear war head" which was mainly a lie.

https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2019/3/20/why-did-bush-go-to-war-in-iraq/

Note that no one ever talked about his invasion of Afghanistan because that was based on proper intelligence

Iraq’s Weapons of Mass Destruction Programs
Iraq has continued its weapons of mass destruction (WMD) programs in defiance of
UN resolutions and restrictions. Baghdad has chemical and biological weapons as
well as missiles with ranges in excess of UN restrictions; if left unchecked, it
probably will have a nuclear weapon during this decade.

Baghdad hides large portions of Iraq’s WMD efforts. Revelations after the Gulf war
starkly demonstrate the extensive efforts undertaken by Iraq to deny information.
Since inspections ended in 1998, Iraq has maintained its chemical weapons effort,
energized its missile program, and invested more heavily in biological weapons;
most analysts assess Iraq is reconstituting its nuclear weapons program.

https://www.cia.gov/library/reports/general-reports-1/iraq_wmd/Iraq_Oct_2002.pdf

Above is a document directly from the CIA library in 2002
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Iamgrey5(m): 8:21pm On Nov 30, 2020
raumdeuter:


Iraq’s Weapons of Mass Destruction Programs
Iraq has continued its weapons of mass destruction (WMD) programs in defiance of
UN resolutions and restrictions. Baghdad has chemical and biological weapons as
well as missiles with ranges in excess of UN restrictions; if left unchecked, it
probably will have a nuclear weapon during this decade.

Baghdad hides large portions of Iraq’s WMD efforts. Revelations after the Gulf war
starkly demonstrate the extensive efforts undertaken by Iraq to deny information.
Since inspections ended in 1998, Iraq has maintained its chemical weapons effort,
energized its missile program, and invested more heavily in biological weapons;
most analysts assess Iraq is reconstituting its nuclear weapons program.

https://www.cia.gov/library/reports/general-reports-1/iraq_wmd/Iraq_Oct_2002.pdf

Above is a document directly from the CIA library in 2002
So how come no such weapons was found in Iraq.

And a brain teaser sir, who was in charge of Cia in 2002?

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by PDPGuy: 8:22pm On Nov 30, 2020
Michele Flournoy, Jeh Johnson, and Lloyd Austin are the 3 finalists for Biden’s choice of Defense Secretary
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Iamgrey5(m): 8:23pm On Nov 30, 2020
raumdeuter:


Another Republican governor going with the will of the electorate, yet we will see Democrats complaining because he has not thrown a party for Biden
Something is wrong here

Was he supposed to go against the will of the electorates as stipulated by Law?

Is he doing Biden any favours?

Meanwhile, Arizona secretary of state is a democrat.

Rudy is currently in a hotel in Arizona trying to undermine the will of the people in another charade.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 8:27pm On Nov 30, 2020
Iamgrey5:
So how come no such weapons was found in Iraq.

And a brain teaser sir, who was in charge of Cia in 2002?

The point here is that the CIA provided wrong Intel, Bush did not single-handedly decide to invade Iraq without Intel from is the agency

And a responsible president defers to the experts who give Intel reports
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 8:29pm On Nov 30, 2020
Iamgrey5:
Something is wrong here

Was he not supposed to the will of the electorate as stipulated by Law?

Is he doing Biden any favours?

Meanwhile, Arizona secretary of state is a democrat.

Rudy is currently in a hotel in Arizona trying to undermine the will of the people in another charade.

Many of the Democrats are already accusing elected Republicans of following Trumps conspiracy when many of them have broken ranks and done the right and normal thing

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by armyofone(m): 8:29pm On Nov 30, 2020
Enough of our Amazons - let him put a guy in that position.

PDPGuy:
Michele Flournoy, Jeh Johnson, and Lloyd Austin are the 3 finalists for Biden’s choice of Defense Secretary
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Iamgrey5(m): 8:31pm On Nov 30, 2020
raumdeuter:


Many of the Democrats are already accusing elected Republicans of following Trumps conspiracy when many of them have broken ranks and done the right and normal thing
So the 26 republican state of rep members in Pennsylvania already petitioning to encourage rep to pick electors for electoral college are not real?

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 8:32pm On Nov 30, 2020
Iamgrey5:
So the 26 republican state of rep members in Pennsylvania already petitioning to encourage rep to pick electors for electoral college are not real?

And the Governors of Arizona, Georgia, Massachusets, Maryland are also real Republicans
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Iamgrey5(m): 8:34pm On Nov 30, 2020
raumdeuter:


The point here is that the CIA provided wrong Intel, Bush did not single-handedly decide to invade Iraq without Intel from is the agency

And a responsible president defers to the experts who give Intel reports
No sir Bush deliberately lied.

The people who made these allegations were appointed by Bush and they deliberately lied to the Congress in other to get support for war in Iraq.

It's a well documented history.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Ladyhippolyta88(f): 8:38pm On Nov 30, 2020
armyofone:
Enough of our Amazons - let him put a guy in that position.

And if he chooses Michele what is wrong with him picking a woman .I don't think he should pick Johnson.Austin will be better or Michele grin? sad
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Iamgrey5(m): 8:42pm On Nov 30, 2020
raumdeuter:


And the Governors of Arizona, Georgia, Massachusets, Maryland are also real Republicans
First of all, you need to understand that the governors of Maryland and Massachusetts are in states Biden won by more than 10%. They understand those that voted for them likely also voted for Biden.

This is the same thing with some republican senators from west coast where Biden won.

Hence those governors and senators are the most vocal and first to call Biden president elect in the republican party.

Now!, the governors of Arizona and Georgia on the other hand, have no other choice than to sign the certification of results because they don't want to undermine the system that brought them to power.

This doesn't mean a good percentage Republicans are not supporting Trumps base less claims especially in areas where Trump has huge support base.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bayelsaowei(m): 8:46pm On Nov 30, 2020
happney65:
Breaking news: Arizona certified its election results on Monday, giving President-elect Joe Biden a win in yet another state where President Trump has contested the voting.

Source--Washington post
grin

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bayelsaowei(m): 8:47pm On Nov 30, 2020
edi287:
Arizona officially certifies Biden's win. Another L for orange Ronald Reagan...
while one deranged human being called trump is still shouting fraud all over the place..

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by OgaTheTop2: 8:49pm On Nov 30, 2020
armyofone:
Error 404 cool cool


Comedy grin
lol... omg.. Error 404 .... Trojam grin

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by OgaTheTop2: 8:52pm On Nov 30, 2020
happney65:
Breaking news: Arizona certified its election results on Monday, giving President-elect Joe Biden a win in yet another state where President Trump has contested the voting.

Source--Washington post
Trump the loser.. cheesy

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/11/30/arizona-wisconsin-certify-votes-trump-may-challenge-outcome/6462445002/

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by PDPGuy: 9:08pm On Nov 30, 2020
armyofone:
Enough of our Amazons - let him put a guy in that position.


May he pick the best qualified. Either way, it’s clear that both his Defense Secretary and DDS will be history making, as no woman or person of color has ever occupied those positions

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by nateevs(m): 9:09pm On Nov 30, 2020
raumdeuter:


Another Republican governor going with the will of the electorate, yet we will see Democrats complaining because he has not thrown a party for Biden

The way you put that like they should get credit for going with the will of the electorate.

Is this the world we live in now? People getting credit for just doing what is right?

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by PDPGuy: 9:10pm On Nov 30, 2020
Ladyhippolyta88:

And if he chooses Michele what is wrong with him picking a woman .I don't think he should pick Johnson.Austin will be better or Michele grin? sad


I think Jeh Johnson will be a good pick to be CIA Director due to his previous experience in consuming classified intelligence as a former DHS Secretary.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 9:19pm On Nov 30, 2020
nateevs:


The way you put that like they should get credit for going with the will of the electorate.

Is this the world we live in now? People getting credit for just doing what is right?

Many people on this thread are already accusing all of them that they are abetting Trumps illegality

No one is saying they should get credit for doing the normal thing but you were here when they were all castigated and painted with the same brush despite some of them doing the right thing

Go to this post below and those I replied to some days back

raumdeuter:
It is the same GOP that are standing against Trump. Most of his cases are getting thrown out by Republicans

In states like Georgia its Republicans standing for the rule of law and against Trump wishes

You hope the GOP is dead but it won't just wait till 2022
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Ladyhippolyta88(f): 9:24pm On Nov 30, 2020
PDPGuy:


I think Jeh Johnson will be a good pick to be CIA Director due to his previous experience in consuming classified intelligence as a former DHS Secretary.
Hmmmm okay
Is his consideration of Darrell Blocker for that post a good or bad choice in your own opinion
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Ladyhippolyta88(f): 9:25pm On Nov 30, 2020
armyofone:
Error 404 cool cool


Comedy grin
LMAO grin grin

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 9:26pm On Nov 30, 2020
Iamgrey5:
First of all, you need to understand that the governors of Maryland and Massachusetts are in states Biden won by more than 10%. They understand those that voted for them likely also voted for Biden.

This is the same thing with some republican senators from west coast where Biden won.

Hence those governors and senators are the most vocal and first to call Biden president elect in the republican party.

Now!, the governors of Arizona and Georgia on the other hand, have no other choice than to sign the certification of results because they don't want to undermine the system that brought them to power.

This doesn't mean a good percentage Republicans are not supporting Trumps base less claims especially in areas where Trump has huge support base.

You are saying the governors of Georgia and Arizona have no choice but to, Yet you are here reading other GOP people saying they will do the opposite
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 9:29pm On Nov 30, 2020
Iamgrey5:
No sir Bush deliberately lied.

The people who made these allegations were appointed by Bush and they deliberately lied to the Congress in other to get support for war in Iraq.

It's a well documented history.


CIA people are career intelligence officers, I have attached documents from the CIA archive that proves that the CIA stated that Iraq had WMD thus Bush had to follow the intel he got

Why will Bush lie if there was no Intel? Can we also say Obama lied to destabilize Libya and Syria?
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Iamgrey5(m): 9:31pm On Nov 30, 2020
raumdeuter:


You are saying the governors of Georgia and Arizona have no choice but to, Yet you are here reading other GOP people saying they will do the opposite
Read my comment again

I am clearly stating that GOP members that will likely not suffer any consequences for their actions clearly support Trump with their full chest, while those in the hot seats have either done the right thing or come out against him.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by nateevs(m): 9:31pm On Nov 30, 2020
raumdeuter:


Many people on this thread are already accusing all of them that they are abetting Trumps illegality

Because there is a shockingly lot of them either utterly outspoken on/perpetuating the illegality or absolutely utterly silent on said illegality. You can conveniently conclude 95%. That is really really bad.

The fact that a mere 5% of them decide to stand for the truth is the story; and that story is shocking.

You cannot then blame people who think it's all of them.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Iamgrey5(m): 9:38pm On Nov 30, 2020
raumdeuter:


CIA people are career intelligence officers, I have attached documents from the CIA archive that proves that the CIA stated that Iraq had WMD thus Bush had to follow the intel he got

Why will Bush lie if there was no Intel? Can we also say Obama lied to destabilize Libya and Syria?
No sir

Every President get to select his own head of CIA, the person that pushed the theories of a nuclear war head was the head of CIA at that time.

The intention was to deceive congress and NATO alliance.

Again on your Obama theory, CIA didn't provide any intelligence regarding Libya and Syria

Libya and SYria happened in the period of Arab spring which lead to changes in regime and government in both Tunisia and Eygpt too.

The attempt to resist Regime change in Libya and Syria led to a Bloody civil war in both countries.

It's not the same with what happened in Iraq sir.

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