basilico:


I atill maintain that not a single court listened to the evidence. There were thousands of affidavits detailing electoral fraud.

Barrister basilico

anyone that argues with you about this again is a fool

Don't worry, na small remain you go enter market

The left obsession with banning semiautomatic rifles is at best disingenuous. A certain claim was made that rifles only account for 3% of deaths. The other 97 % being from handguns. , a leftie fact checker https://www.bettergov.org/news/fact-check-are-handguns-used-to-commit-nearly-all-murders/ found that handguns account for about 82%. A very high figure still. The fact checker issue was to discredit the 97% figure, I believe it's somewhere in the 90s.

Why not go for handguns that kill say 95% .Milk a crisis when a mass shooter uses a rifle, ignore the other 97% killed by handguns.

It's a matter of disarming the population. Take the rifles away , then they come for handguns. The left wants to rule forever without any challenge.

Kinda reminds me of all commie states. Russia, China, Venezuela, Cuba.

Narrative today is right wing supremacists (read gun owners ) who will not give up without a fight. The jihadist crashed the white supremacists gun tottng terrorist narrative as being the worst threat.

Dems are commies.

basilico:
The left obsession with banning semiautomatic rifles is at best disingenuous. A certain claim was made that rifles only account for 3% of deaths. The other 97 % being from handguns. , a leftie fact checker https://www.bettergov.org/news/fact-check-are-handguns-used-to-commit-nearly-all-murders/ found that handguns account for about 82%. A very high figure still. The fact checker issue was to discredit the 97% figure, I believe it's somewhere in the 90s.

Why not go for handguns that kill say 95% .Milk a crisis when a mass shooter uses a rifle, ignore the other 97% killed by handguns.

It's a matter of disarming the population. Take the rifles away , then they come for handguns. The left wants to rule forever without any challenge.

Kinda reminds me of all commie states. Russia, China, Venezuela, Cuba.

Narrative today is right wing supremacists (read gun owners ) who will not give up without a fight. The jihadist crashed the white supremacists gun tottng terrorist narrative as being the worst threat.

Dems are commies.

Mumu man, which gun do you have in Umudike? Never seen such a confused Umudike man crying more than the bereaved.

Yes, the aim is to ban all guns so America can become a sane society like most other Western Nations that don't carry guns. That includes handguns, but automatics will be a great start. Automatics are usually the ones used in mass shootings and school shootings so a good place to start.

Ibime:


Mumu man, which gun do you have in Umudike? Never seen such a confused Umudike man crying more than the bereaved.

Yes, the aim is to ban all guns so America can become a sane society like most other Western Nations that don't carry guns. That includes handguns, but automatics will be a great start. Automatics are usually the ones used in mass shootings and school shootings so a good place to start.

Rifles account for 3% of gun related deaths and almost 0% in suicides.
Ban rifles.Not handguns.

Liberal logic.

edi287:

I am attacking the right because they want everyone including mentally ill people to have assault weapons. More white people have more guns than black people even if you do account for the "criminals".
One moment the NRA will push their pro everyone have a gun talk with "people can protect themselves with guns from the police state" to nonsense about Chicago like asking for laws that make sure guns don't fall into the wrong hands means you support crime.

That's the issue with some of you right wing folks. For the people who like to talk about how black people aren't a monolith - you seem to be guilty of some of the things you accuse Liberals of.

Asking for sensible gun laws = not caring about crime in the black community.

Asking that cops do better when handling issues in the black community = you don't care about criminals in the black community - just only when cops kill black people(like holding cops to a high standards is a crime).

One moment Cops are infallible but as soon as it comes to guns - everyone should have assault weapons because cops aren't perfect.

Exaggeration does not mean fact, it just mean you have an imaginary argument in your head, you assign to the right and you attack it. Show me a policy of the right where they stated they want everyone to own a gun.

Kokobilo87:


Exaggeration does not mean fact, it just mean you have an imaginary argument in your head, you assign to the right and you attack it. Show me a policy of the right where they stated they want everyone to own a gun.

So why had Republicans been against background checks all this while?

Why have they mostly been against banning people with mental illnesses from buying guns?? That is what I mean by "everyone" being allowed to get guns.

edi287:

So why had Republicans been against background checks all this while?

Why have they mostly been against banning people with mental illnesses from buying guns?? That is what I mean by "everyone" being allowed to get guns.

They are not against background check. Stop making things up.

Kokobilo87:


They are not against background check. Stop making things up.

Nobody is against background checks. Hidden in to that term is Universal Registry ie a database of who owns what guns.
That should be scaring.
Democrats can't get enough of micromanaging their subjects lives

Kokobilo87:


They are not against background check. Stop making things up.

Yes they are. They've been against universal background checks till Trump supported it and a few hopped on the bandwagon.

edi287:

Yes they are. They've been against universal background checks till Trump supported it and a few hopped on the bandwagon.

Background checks are done for licenced gun dealers only
Universal background checks require a sort of gun registry that includes records of when your grandpa gifts you a gun. Only lefties would support that

.https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_background_check

basilico:


Background checks are done for licenced gun dealers only
Universal background checks require a sort of gun registry that includes records of when your grandpa gifts you a gun. Only lefties would support that

.https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_background_check

So we shouldn't know who and who is carrying assault weapons because "muh second amendment"? Interesting...

edi287:

Yes they are. They've been against universal background checks till Trump supported it and a few hopped on the bandwagon.

Can you back up your claim or it is just something the other said made you believe

edi287:

So we shouldn't know who and who is carrying assault weapons because "muh second amendment"? Interesting...

This sounds beyond your understanding .

basilico:


This sounds beyond your understanding .

Whatever makes you sleep at night.

edi287:

So we shouldn't know who and who is carrying assault weapons because "muh second amendment"? Interesting...

Look, the FBI went with a swat team to arrest Roger stones. He is not known for any crime or violence. He is just a trump guy and they invited cnn to film how they Swat him. Okay, this guy that killed 10 people has been on their radar and they know he might do something like this. They allowed it to happen. 10 dead so folks like you can yap about assault weapons.

The mistake American will make is to give away their weapons. This is not australia or Europe. United States is filled with all kinds of people and criminals. You go from rap culture to gang within and gang outside and Mexico who will start up war in their country to control who supply illegal weapons to the US like they do with narcotics.

Result will be, law abiding defenseless against criminals. Home invasion will increase. For them to be able to take away guns, they should control the border first. Making sure no banned substance are entering the country. If they can do that then they might have a good reason to take away guns.

Kokobilo87:


Can you back up your claim or it is just something the other said made you believe

Only 8 Republicans in the house and 4 in the senate support Universal background checks.

Uni

edi287:

So we shouldn't know who and who is carrying assault weapons because "muh second amendment"? Interesting...

Why not enact voter ID requirements also?
Gngs will never register , if you live in a crime infested area, ayiu are basically defenceless if you say are ineligible to own a gun.
Impossible to implement .Especially in crime prone areas.

Kokobilo87:


Look, the FBI went with a swat team to arrest Roger stones. He is not known for any crime or violence. He is just a trump guy and they invited cnn to film how they Swat him. Okay, this guy that killed 10 people has been on their radar and they know he might do something like this. They allowed it to happen. 10 dead so folks like you can yap about assault weapons.

The mistake American will make is to give away their weapons. This is not australia or Europe. United States is filled with all kinds of people and criminals. You go from rap culture to gang within and gang outside and Mexico who will start up war in their country to control who supply illegal weapons to the US like they do with narcotics.

Result will be, law abiding defenseless against criminals. Home invasion will increase. For them to be able to take away guns, they should control the border first. Making sure no banned substance are entering the country. If they can do that then they might have a good reason to take away guns.

Who is saying anything about giving up their guns?? Common sense gun laws is what is needed. A gun is not a damn toy anyone can get because you're talking about your second amendment right.
What do we have the police for?? I thought the police are the most blameless people in the world?? You're worried about being able to defend yourself against criminals yet you don't want laws that make sure those criminals DON'T have access to guns easily?

Let's vet everything...the border, military, police, gun sales etc.
A gun is not a toy. It requires responsibility to be a gun owner. In no sane world should getting a gun be easier than voting.

edi287:

Only 8 Republicans in the house and 4 in the senate support Universal background checks.

Dude what is in the bill. This does not prove anything. You have to state what was in the bill for us to understand why they reject it.

basilico:
Uni

Why not enact voter ID requirements also?
Gngs will never register , if you live in a crime infested area, ayiu are basically defenceless if you say are ineligible to own a gun.
Impossible to implement .Especially in crime prone areas.

You must think I'm one of those who gives a Bleep about voter ID.
Make getting Voter ID laws as easy as buying a gun in certain states - then we can talk.
It is impossible to implement now because you right wing folks have this ridiculous fetish with assault weapons that I don't understand.
Ted Cruz advocating for more funding of police to deal with this is a more reasonable approach.
A Gun is not a toy. Not everyone should have access to it especially assault weapons.
Reason gun laws should be enacted. Knowing who are getting guns is not a crime.

edi287:

Who is saying anything about giving up their guns?? Common sense gun laws is what is needed. A gun is not a damn toy anyone can get because you're talking about your second amendment right.
What do we have the police for?? I thought the police are the most blameless people in the world?? You're worried about being able to defend yourself against criminals yet you don't want laws that make sure those criminals DON'T have access to guns easily?

Let's vet everything...the border, military, police, gun sales etc.
A gun is not a toy. It requires responsibility to be a gun owner. In no sane world should getting a gun be easier than voting.

They already have the gun laws. This man that killed 10 didn't get his gun legally. There are gun laws in place but they have fed you lies. They do background check. Get a clue of what you talk about.

Kokobilo87:


Dude what is in the bill. This does not prove anything. You have to state what was in the bill for us to understand why they reject it.

UNIVERSAL BACKGROUND CHECK is they are against.

edi287:

UNIVERSAL BACKGROUND CHECK is they are against.

Universal background check is the name of the bill... For example the stimulus check was for people affected by Corona virus but in that bill you have things unrelated to Corona virus being requested which makes the other party vote against it. So calling the name of a bill does not explain what is in it.

Kokobilo87:


They already have the gun laws. This man that killed 10 didn't get his gun legally. There are gun laws in place but they have fed you lies. They do background check. Get a clue of what you talk about.

No the dude got an assault weapon 5 days after a judge overturned Boulder's assault weapon ban

Kokobilo87:


Universal background check is the name of the bill... For example the stimulus check was for people affected by Corona virus but in that bill you have things unrelated to Corona virus being requested which makes the other party vote against it. So calling the name of a bill does not explain what is in it.

No its not what the name is, it's what Republicans are against. This isn't anything new...

edi287:

No its not what the name is, it's what Republicans are against. This isn't anything new...

What you highlighted is proving my point. The name Universal Background check is not what will be infringing of people's constitutional right... So what is in the bill that will be doing that bro? Call a bill this name or that name does not reflect the laws that is in the bill.

Also, tell me how this universal background check would prevent anything and also tell me how the check will be carried out

@budaatum, I once said that I suspect the the mistress of the kraken, Sidney Powell was laughing and speaking like a person who knows she's being ridiculous but going on for the gain. Here we have it now, she's said no reasonable person should believe what she was saying was fact.

LordReed:
@budaatum, I once said that I suspect the the mistress of the kraken, Sidney Powell was laughing and speaking like a person who knows she's being ridiculous but going on for the gain. Here we have it now, she's said no reasonable person should believe what she was saying was fact.

No reasonable people believed that worthless idiot Sidney but the foolish Umudikeans here rottening in their mud filled villages believed her. So sad Indeed. Thank God Trump is out of our National discuss.

PrideofLincoln1:
No reasonable people believed that worthless idiot Sidney but the foolish Umudikeans here rottening in their mud filled villages believed her. So sad Indeed. Thank God Trump is out of our National discuss.

Really, it feels like fresh air.

LordReed:


Really, it feels like fresh air.

Even people that disagree with President Biden praised him for bringing normalcy and calmness to the WH unlike the daily horror shows of name callings and unheard of bigotry Trump spout out daily. His indictments are coming on manner of few months and karma will bite him in his rear.

edi287:

Who is saying anything about giving up their guns?? Common sense gun laws is what is needed. A gun is not a damn toy anyone can get because you're talking about your second amendment right.
What do we have the police for?? I thought the police are the most blameless people in the world?? You're worried about being able to defend yourself against criminals yet you don't want laws that make sure those criminals DON'T have access to guns easily?

Coloroda has Universal Background checks. Did that stop that iSIS sympathiser from murdering 10 people. Left ia demonising assault rifles as a way to control gun ownership for a start. This killer was on FBI radar as has been pointed out, FBI is being used by democrats to crack down on gum control. If there was ever a civil war how would a militia (as defined by the constitution) prevent govt tyranny army armed with automatic rifles while the militia is only armed with handguns , tomahawks or bayonets.

The death from assault rifles is only 3% , the need to prevent a well armed milotia fighting back against these commies is the real reason they seek to ban semiautomatic rifles.

Its about disarming any possible threat should there ever be any.

The Sunday Hook shooter was also on the radar, He was not supposed to be in the school. FBI knew about him and ahoukd have visited him at least once to determine his mental status.

Suspects FBI knew but did nothing in bold below


reminder…. 50 FBI agents were enlisted within the Trump-Russia investigation to push a narrative. 13 FBI agents were dispatched to Talladega speedway to investigate a garage pull-down rope and push a narrative. Thousands of FBI hours have been spent investigating the January 6th Washington DC protest… and once again another terrorist carries out a mass shooting where the FBI knew the suspect in advance.

The FBI knew in advance the Pulse Nightclub shooter (Omar Mateen) and were tipped off by the local sheriff. The FBI knew in advance the San Bernardino Terrorists (Tashfeen Malik). The FBI knew in advance the Boston Marathon Bombers (the Tsarnaev brothers) tipped off by Russians. The FBI knew in advance the Garland, Texas, shooters (Elton Simpson and Nadir Soofi). The FBI knew in advance of the Parkland High School shooter (Nikolas Cruz). The FBI knew in advance of the Fort Hood shooter (Nidal Hasan); and now the FBI knew in advance of Ahmad al-Aliwi Alissa.



Let's vet everything...the border, military, police, gun sales etc.
A gun is not a toy. It requires responsibility to be a gun owner. In no sane world should getting a gun be easier than voting.

PrideofLincoln1:
Even people that disagree with President Biden praised him for bringing normalcy and calmness to the WH unlike the daily horror shows of name callings and unheard of bigotry Trump spout out daily. His indictments are coming on manner of few months and karma will bite him in his rear.

You go wait tire, months will turn to year's and nothing will happen.