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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 8:45am On Jul 17, 2021
sanpipita:


I won't be surprised if these auditors back out because this game they are playing is a dangerous one, any report they release will have their stamp and if taken to court to defend it and it turns out crooked we will have another Rudy Giuliani situation.

Already they are now saying they don't have enough information to complete to audit. Circus

Lying again.
They have not been provided with passwords,router access, splunk logs and envelope images despite the judge granting the subpoena.
The senate will have to use force to get the items above

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by sanpipita(m): 8:53am On Jul 17, 2021
benalvino2:


The problem with the United States is too much freedom. That will be their downfall. The media is given immunity to mislead the masses. Blatant lies and dangerous smears. See where they have taken the United States to. Imploding from within and their enemies are exploiting them by investing in their education and media. I mean, look at John Cena apologizing in Chinese to the Chinese people for calling Taiwan a country.

The United States does not allow trump to act. In fact congress gave social media outlets like Twitter and Facebook immunity from lawsuit and accountability. The social media are more powerful than their government.

China and Russia are a more peaceful nations because they control their media and social media. They won't allow anything that will send their country into chaos. Authoritarianism I know. But the United States needs a little of that. That way they don't let the media lie to the public freely.

So what they did to trump is because the politicians gave them that power and one side was using them to subjugate the other political party.

Lol imagine thinking I will have time to tell a lie, isnt this you? or you got lost in your contradictory takes.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 8:56am On Jul 17, 2021
benalvino3:


You must love it in China and North Korea. You didn't think straight on this one. The government always use misinformation to convince the public of anything. That's how Hitler attacked Poland, that's how Bush and Blair attacked Iraq.

It is misinformation they were trying to control before they go after Edward Snowden and wiki leaks but Snowden was not spreading misinformation as well as wiki leaks. When you put that power in their hands they use it against you. I don't know why you people like tyrannical government so much. But carry all your freedom dash government and wonder when they come for you when you sneeze. Liberalism is a disease. Obixel is right and now big tech is becoming state actors I hope they can be sued

The govt job is to provide an enabling level environment for business And has a duty of care to the less privileged and vulnerable members of the society.
The govt is using social media to track down its opponents and to control what people can think and say.
monopoly status to big 5 means a good number of the society is being brainwashed.
Censorship, deplatforming should be discouraged.
Who is fact checking for Facebook? Leftists.
This is one health factchecker.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/fact-checking-facebooks-fact-checkers-11614987375

The media giant is employing left-wing vetters to limit scientific debate.

The Facebook has an oversight board composed of full blown leftists.

Nobel laureate Tawakkol Karman, Cato Institute vice president John Samples,
human rights lawyer Afia Asantewaa
Asare-Kyei, and Stanford Law professor Pamela Karlan( trump shamimpeachement witness)

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Konkoja: 9:06am On Jul 17, 2021
sanpipita:


I won't be surprised if these auditors back out because this game they are playing is a dangerous one, any report they release will have their stamp and if taken to court to defend it and it turns out crooked we will have another Rudy Giuliani situation.

Already they are now saying they don't have enough information to complete to audit. Circus

They have boxed themselves into a corner big time! How would they come out that there is no fraud? Their cultic mob will eat them raw. If they report there was fraud, they will be sued not only by Democrats but by Republican controlled Maricopa County. I suspect there will never be any outcome.

Let the circus continue, we can only watch and wait.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 9:07am On Jul 17, 2021
Obrigardo:
The cultists know this is the last stand, the last straw to hold on to before DOJ starts hammering them, and before the Jan 6th commission goes underway. Perfect timing I must say.

The cultists are raving mad because the literally found nothing grin, they know their future is so bleak, so you would expect the crazies in their state senate to get triggered and act up like a mad person, well we do have mad psychos in the Republiqan party.

Simple fact check by Maricopa county board destroys millions of dollars fraudulent audit, and all the noise they making now will never result to any new election in Arizona BECAUSE THERE WAS NO WIDESPREAD VOTER FRAUD.

The only voter fraud cases that's been prosecuted were done by two republican voters, one in Pennsylvania and the other in Pittsburgh..



Their fake outrage will die in a few days time..

Obrigardo,Did they answer all the following points raised by the audit team?
Media knows that you only refute 2/10 points and lunatics like you scream in support, never noticing that they have been duped.

A concise summary of AZ preliminary findings

As many as 312,000 ballots in question, totally all categories. Trump “lost” by 10,457 votes.

74,243 ballots received with no record of ever having been sent out to voters in the first place.

+18,000 Maricopa people, who voted in 2020, were removed from rolls AFTER election for unknown reasons.

11,326 voters show up on rolls AFTER election. Were not on the rolls Nov 7 but WERE on Dec 4 and show as having voted in the 2020 Election.

3,981 voted despite being registered after Oct 15 deadline.

Operating Systems and virus protections WERE NOT updated (patched) to plug security holes since before the 2020 Election. Ben Cotton said could have been easily hacked “in ten minutes”.

Routers still being withheld by County. Hiding evidence of potential breeches.

ALL the login passwords were the SAME. Eliminating core procedural protection.

37,000 computer-scripted query logins mysteriously happened on one day in March, AFTER the election, AFTER subpoenas, likely in order to wipe out previous login data trail. Hiding any data from previous logins before Feb 5.

No images of envelopes yet produced by the County.

Duplicate ballots found marked as originals and vice versa. Numbers were off on the paper log sheets that should correspond with the contents of each ballot box.

Multiple sets of same serial numbers or missing serial numbers on ballots.

Approximately 88% of ballots printed out of alignment which causes scanning errors and forces the ballots into adjudication where risk of manipulation of votes can occur without partisan oversight. Paper-stock used for ballots printed on election day was TOO THIN, causing ink-bleed, adding weight to earlier “sharpie gate” suspicions. Both alignment issues and paper-stock thickness raise questions of legitimacy of the source of the Total number of these printed on election day was 168k giving the above figure of 312k.

Will be interesting to find all these ballots were mostly for Xibiden, lets be patient.
As far as going to court, the Maricopa Board will find itself, not the auditors.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 9:22am On Jul 17, 2021
Konkoja:


They have boxed themselves into a corner big time! How would they come out that there is no fraud? Their cultic mob will eat them raw. If they report there was fraud, they will be sued not only by Democrats but by Republican controlled Maricopa County. I suspect there will never be any outcome.

Let the circus continue, we can only watch and wait.

Very misinformed you are. You must be a crook.
Auditors job is to understand the processes followed, suggest ways to improve the process .
An auditor job is not to look for fraud, unless specifically tasked in a case whether there are anomalies. The auditors just reported using the data they were given.
This is not a darn court case.After they present their report the AG will then prosecute those found to have broken the law.If they disenchafrized voters, we could be looking at treason with a public hanging.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 9:36am On Jul 17, 2021
basilico:


The govt job is to provide an enabling level environment for business And has a duty of care to the less privileged and vulnerable members of the society.
The govt is using social media to track down its opponents and to control what people can think and say.
monopoly status to big 5 means a good number of the society is being brainwashed.
Censorship, deplatforming should be discouraged.
Who is fact checking for Facebook? Leftists.
This is one health factchecker.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/fact-checking-facebooks-fact-checkers-11614987375

The media giant is employing left-wing vetters to limit scientific debate.

The Facebook has an oversight board composed of full blown leftists.

Nobel laureate Tawakkol Karman, Cato Institute vice president John Samples,
human rights lawyer Afia Asantewaa
Asare-Kyei, and Stanford Law professor Pamela Karlan( trump shamimpeachement witness)


Now they Biden government is accepting the lab leak theory.

Facebook official have also stated the the Biden administration is looking for a scapegoat for their vaccine distribution woes

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 9:48am On Jul 17, 2021
benalvino3:


Now they Biden government is accepting the lab leak theory.

Facebook official have also stated the the Biden administration is looking for a scapegoat for their vaccine distribution woes

Google is scanning your files on google drive to check for misinforming content.That includes vaccines , COVID-19 , elections or contravenes Govt records
This is beyond censorship. Tyranny

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 10:08am On Jul 17, 2021
basilico:


Google is scanning your files on google drive to check for misinforming content.That includes vaccines , COVID-19 , elections or contravenes Govt records
This is beyond censorship. Tyranny

Lol, there own better.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Ibime(m): 10:44am On Jul 17, 2021
Konkoja:
https://content.govdelivery.com/accounts/AZMARIC/bulletins/2e852d0

Madness in full display - auditing 2 million votes for about 3 months and still counting. How long will it take to audit 150 million votes?
Anyway, Cyber Ninjas you have been challenged - finish your audit, release your report and be prepared to defend it in court.

lol.

Auditor asking open ended questions.

Like I said, they should release the result of their fraudit, and stop writing long essay and conspiracy theories which are being debunked per minute

These liars done buy market

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 10:49am On Jul 17, 2021
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Ibime(m): 10:53am On Jul 17, 2021
Monkeys living in a Banana Republic discussing how Govt control information.

Shame on you Benalvino for not educating that buffoon on how media is regulated in the UK despite your experience of living here.

As you know, we have Ofcom in the UK that regulate to ensure lies and hate speech are not fed to the populace. What Trumpanzees want is the ability to lie unfettered which is their stock in trade

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Ibime(m): 11:02am On Jul 17, 2021
basilico:


All arrivals to UK whether vaccinated or not, visiting or returning must be quarantined for 14 days in a hotel chosen for them at their own cost. A friend of mine left UK for 5 days , on returning he is still in quarantine despite being vaccinated fully.With an armed guard outside his door 24/7 ( in two shifts) At his cost.He is only allowed 3 times a day to step out (for a smoke).

Stop lying shamelessly. If he is from the UK, he will return to his own home and quarantine for 10 days in his home.

The only people staying in hotels are non resident who are visiting the UK from abroad. And even at that, most are reporting the ability to stroll out from the hotel with not even a receptionist to challenge them talkless of Armed Guard

How will your friend from UK be in hotel if he is from UK?

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Ibime(m): 11:07am On Jul 17, 2021
basilico:

74,243 ballots received with no record of ever having been sent out to voters in the first place.

Once an auditor is incompetent, they have stained themselves and don't.need to bother.

Early voting includes voting in person not just mail-in which is where the 74k ballots come.in.but the Deep rig frauditor did not know these basics.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 11:11am On Jul 17, 2021
Ibime:


Stop lying shamelessly. If he is from the UK, he will return to his own home and quarantine for 10 days in his home.

The only people staying in hotels are non resident who are visiting the UK from abroad. And even at that, most are reporting the ability to stroll out from the hotel with not even a receptionist to challenge them talkless of Armed Guard

How will your friend from UK be in hotel if he is from UK?

Changes to international travel
rules for amber list countries
From 4am Monday 19 July you
will not need to quarantine on
arrival in England or take a day 8
COVID-19 test, as long as you:
have been fully vaccinated
under the UK vaccination
programme
have not been in a red list
country in the 10 days before
you arrive in England
Fully vaccinated means that you
have had your final dose of an
approved vaccine at least 14 days
before the date you arrive in
England.
You will need to:
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 11:13am On Jul 17, 2021
Ibime:


Once an auditor is incompetent, they have stained themselves and don't.need to bother.

Early voting includes voting in person not just mail-in which is where the 74k ballots come.in.but the Deep rig frauditor did not know these basics.

Those were mail in votes idiot.
They only have a record of sent 10 votes via mail, 30 were returned via mail scenerio.

you are incompetent.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Ibime(m): 11:13am On Jul 17, 2021
basilico:


Changes to international travel
rules for amber list countries
From 4am Monday 19 July you
will not need to quarantine on
arrival in England or take a day 8
COVID-19 test, as long as you:
have been fully vaccinated
under the UK vaccination
programme
have not been in a red list
country in the 10 days before
you arrive in England
Fully vaccinated means that you
have had your final dose of an
approved vaccine at least 14 days
before the date you arrive in
England.
You will need to:

We all know you need to quarantine when you arrive from a red list country, my question is why is your friend from UK quarantining in a Hotel? You think we don't have friends who are travelling?

Lies!

If you are returning to UK, you quarantine in your own home.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 11:15am On Jul 17, 2021
Ibime:


We all know you need to quarantine when you arrive from a red list country, my question is why is your friend from UK quarantining in a Hotel? You think we don't have friends who are travelling?

Lies!

If you are returning to UK, you quarantine in your own home.

I chat with him, because of the solar business.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Ibime(m): 11:17am On Jul 17, 2021
basilico:


Those were mail in votes idiot.
They only have a record of sent 10 votes via mail, 30 were returned via mail scenerio.

you are incompetent.

Shut up

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 11:47am On Jul 17, 2021
Ibime:


Shut up

What they are disputing has nothing to do with the claim.

Read it till you understand how m County tweet is laughable.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 12:02pm On Jul 17, 2021
Ibime:


Shut up

I repeat , send out 10 via mail.
Receive 30 via mail.
Not from early voting centres. Mail
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Ibime(m): 12:06pm On Jul 17, 2021
basilico:


I repeat , send out 10 via mail.
Receive 30 via mail.
Not from early voting centres. Mail

Lies.


https://apnews.com/article/government-and-politics-arizona-ap-fact-check-election-2020-campaign-2016-f0c36df59ee1069d65aa6a70a22d88cc

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 12:26pm On Jul 17, 2021
One of the most damning things from the Arizona independent audit is that the two previous election machine audits contracted by Maricopa County did not even raise the red flag of only Dominion employees having the master admin key. How legitimate could those "audits" have been?
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 12:27pm On Jul 17, 2021
Ibime:


Lies.


https://apnews.com/article/government-and-politics-arizona-ap-fact-check-election-2020-campaign-2016-f0c36df59ee1069d65aa6a70a22d88cc

Expect me to believe apnews. They are a leftist always justifying everything the left claims.

They ran away with the story about Lafayette square being cleared so Trump could walk across to the church.
This year, they retracted. after IG report rubbished that accusation.

Im sure if I search here, Ill find your comments last June about this issue
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 12:30pm On Jul 17, 2021
benalvino3:
One of the most damning things from the Arizona independent audit is that the two previous election machine audits contracted by Maricopa County did not even raise the red flag of only Dominion employees having the master admin key. How legitimate could those "audits" have been?

Maricopa board has been against the audit.They hired auditors who had not been certified When press raised this matter, the firms were quickly recertified.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Ibime(m): 12:33pm On Jul 17, 2021
basilico:


Expect me to believe apnews. They are a leftist always justifying everything the left claims.

They ran away with the story about Lafayette square being cleared so Trump could walk across to the church.
This year, they retracted. after IG report rubbished that accusation.

Im sure if I search here, Ill find your comments last June about this issue

Shut up.

Arizona fraudit is being dragged all over the news and Twitter. Karen Fann and CyberNinjas are now backtracking and trying to claim they can't finish the audit, because they know they can't defend such a shïtshow.

Maricopa revealed the figure is not 74,000 but 450,000 because that's how the process works - people vote in person early. CyberNinjas have started backtracking, claiming they weren't alleging fraud but asking for more information. Something they should have known if they had any clue of how elections are run.

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 12:50pm On Jul 17, 2021
Ibime:


Shut up.

Arizona fraudit is being dragged all over the news and Twitter. Karen Fann and CyberNinjas are now backtracking and trying to claim they can't finish the audit, because they know they can't defend such a shïtshow.

Maricopa revealed the figure is not 74,000 but 450,000 because that's how the process works - people vote in person early. CyberNinjas have started backtracking, claiming they weren't alleging fraud but asking for more information. Something they should have known if they had any clue of how elections are run.

Still quoting ap news.
The reason they cant finish to their standards is that they have not been provided with all details.
A bank teller counts all the cash issued and received at the end of his shift. He does not tell you that's the cash in there, the duly filled forms are none of your business or they have private citizens data He provides everything.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Ibime(m): 1:07pm On Jul 17, 2021
basilico:


Still quoting ap news.
The reason they cant finish to their standards is that they have not been provided with all details.
A bank teller counts all the cash issued and received at the end of his shift. He does not tell you that's the cash in there, the duly filled forms are none of your business or they have private citizens data He provides everything.

Shut up. They have been given everything a professional auditor requires and are required to by law.

Fools didn't even know the difference between EV32 and EV33 forms and what they are used for, too busy shooting Deep Rig documentary at the audit site.

6 months to count 2 million votes. Amateurs. They should declare their results and prepare to defend it in court, or as suspected, they are just there to obfuscate and create talking points for the alternative facts industry known as the GQP without any tangible result.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 1:20pm On Jul 17, 2021
Ibime:


Shut up. They have been given everything a professional auditor requires and are required to by law.

Fools didn't even know the difference between EV32 and EV33 forms and what they are used for, too busy shooting Deep Rig documentary at the audit site.

6 months to count 2 million votes. Amateurs. They should declare their results and prepare to defend it in court, or as suspected, they are just there to obfuscate and create talking points for the alternative facts industry known as the GQP without any tangible result.


They were asking for envelope images , these have not been provided because there is a chance less ballots were mailed in .The excess could have been xeroxed and delivered as mail in.Which means they have no chain of custody.
The auditor needs the ballot images to ascertain how many were mailed in.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Ibime(m): 1:39pm On Jul 17, 2021
basilico:



They were asking for envelope images , these have not been provided because there is a chance less ballots were mailed in .The excess could have been xeroxed and delivered as mail in.Which means they have no chain of custody.
The auditor needs the ballot images to ascertain how many were mailed in.

Bla bla bla. There is a chance this, there is a chance that. Fuji House of commotion, conspiracies and whatifs. Release your result and be prepared to back it in court, simple.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 1:43pm On Jul 17, 2021
Ibime:


Bla bla bla. There is a chance this, there is a chance that. Fuji House of commotion, conspiracies and whatifs. Release your result and be prepared to back it in court, simple.
Explain this assertion.

“I do know of a case where one house got 25
ballots in the mail and only two people live
there,” Fann said. “And so we had talked
about how we verify that. And there was a
question about canvasing.”

And this too.

“We think it’s important to get the mail-in
ballot images,” he added. “And see how many,
if any, blank signatures came through.”
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Ibime(m): 1:55pm On Jul 17, 2021
basilico:

Explain this assertion.

“I do know of a case where one house got 25
ballots in the mail and only two people live
there,” Fann said. “And so we had talked
about how we verify that. And there was a
question about canvasing.”

And this too.

“We think it’s important to get the mail-in
ballot images,” he added. “And see how many,
if any, blank signatures came through.”


Shut up and report it.

August is next month, have you got your babariga ready for Trumps inauguration? You can accompany the disgraceful Karen Fann to it.

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