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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by happney65: 10:44pm On Oct 02, 2019
Wyttcat:
Do you remember what the wicked witch said in 2008 when people asked her why she wasn't dropping out for Obama? Killary Killton said, "JFK was assassinated close to the election and anything can happen". Just imagine Trump saying that. This is a woman who has killed at least 49 people who worked for her and sacrifice children regularly to the Moloch, so bothered Bernie Sanders and Warren are not too much for her to kill in her backyard for fun.


Really?You dont mean it?that Hilary eats people for breakfast.lunch and dinner?Wahoo..I am speechless..then she must be a witch and we need to lock her up isnt it? grin grin grin
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by happney65: 10:46pm On Oct 02, 2019
Wyttcat:
TheShopKeeper

Obama the CRIMINAL IN CHIEF

Another one..Dont you think we should poison obama?the fake president born abroad..He should be in prison with the other witch too isnt it?
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Kophschmerzen: 10:51pm On Oct 02, 2019
happney65:


Another one..Dont you think we should poison obama?the fake president born abroad..He should be in prison with the other witch too isnt it?

That thing is bot. Just report to the mods and save yourself from talking to a wall.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Wyttcat: 10:52pm On Oct 02, 2019
I can't fix the problem of your life, you may have to see your shrink or whoever is handling such with you. I can only list the problem Trump is fixing that you asked. I hope you don't expect me to bring Trump himself to come explain to you cos one never knows the alternate universe you are in today.

See it again, these are what he has fixed, though I know you are blind to facts but someone can always point it out to you if you ask around.

You have to embrace reality first and stop your lies. Trump just got 6 millions off food stamps and no elites own 95% wealth in America, that's a lie and you need to stop it. I posted the chart yesterday and I hate repeating myself. Are you a blind man or just blind in spirit?

Stop it, you are not capable of calling a spade a spade, you are a swamp creature and it shows. I'm beginning to think you have ADHD. I told you yesterday that America is not a police state and that it's all in your fantasy and what you are making up, that will never happen in America. Now you are saying I didn't have answer to it, what particular answer do you want me to give? You are so leftist and want people to say what you like but that won't work with me.

Oh lawwd! Who have I been talking to! Go and read my previous post, I was the one saying Sweden is NOT a socialist country, I even corrected you yesterday and went to the extend of saying offering social services to the needy does not translate to socialist countries. You really need to take a break from this thread cos you are sounding like you lost your way mentally.

Fiirst of all, US and Sweden are not in the same class, and then California and New York are becoming what other states are scared of becoming. These two rich Democrats states have been run to the ground by the same leftist/liberals we are talking about, and Trump has just issued California violation over filth and homelessness.

Appleyard:


My friend, why are you so confused and unable to grasp points, instead digressing like a helpless tidal wave? I ask you what is Trump fixing regarding the socialist idealism in play in America and you came back with a load of irrelevances. Does the figures you posted change the facts on ground? Does it stop the over 40 millions Americans living on food stamps? Does it change the fact that 95% of the wealth is owned by the elites?

Dems? What a weak argument. I don't give a dime about dems or Republicans, I'm the guy who just calls a spade a spade, no matter whose horse is gored. Reading your other posts shows that you are a jingoist drinking the liberal Kool aid ditched out by the dark knights in the dark corridors of the establishments.

Whether you believe it or not, you are living in a police state, period. And I guess you didn't have answers to that.

Any state that prioritized extensive breaching of the privacy of its citizen on a larger scale is a police state, which is also an operative dictum of extreme socialism. But folks like you love to twist words to suit your warped narrative since it is America. It is laughable how you are quick to label Sweden and Norway as examples of socialist states but quick to exonerate the US when it has similar programs and ideas running in it. Thank God you know some states like Cali and New York personified what you don't want to believe, so all hope is not lost for you to realize that you are already living in a hybrid socialized state.





You are just babbling without any logical sense. Use your brain, no one is dreaming that America becomes a socialist state. We are just stating the obvious but folks like you chose to live in delusion. You couldn't disprove the fact that you live in a police state. Well, ghat is an improvement. cool

When I saw the rest of your posts with GalaticHorde and Kophschmerzen, I gave up on you.

For you to say that no American travels out of this country to get Healthcare elsewhere and that America has the best Healthcare in the world shows that you are not even truthful to yourself.

Every year, thousands of Americans travel outside the shores of the country to get cheaper and better healthcare elsewhere. But how would you know since you chose to live in your own world of reality.

Do you even know that the Healthcare system of Switzerland, Sweden, Denmark and Norway are better than what is attainable in America?

Get your facts straight before you spout lies and make the devil a Saint. The US is not even among the best 10 countries in Healthcare.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by happney65: 11:01pm On Oct 02, 2019
Kophschmerzen:


That thing is bot. Just report to the mods and save yourself from talking to a wall.

I say make I whine am small ni.. grin

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Wyttcat: 11:36pm On Oct 02, 2019
And you kophschmerzen

Na na na na bu bu!

You both are scared of carrying out conversations, yet started one, how hypocrites can you get? You know your mods are not fair and don't investigate anything before banning but guess what I don't care, I always make use of every opportunity.

happney65:


I say make I whine am small ni.. grin

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Wyttcat: 11:41pm On Oct 02, 2019
I believe in justice, let evidence be presented to the court of law and jury of his peers find him guilty or not, this is how sane, civil and faithful do things and the way it ought to be.
happney65:


Another one..Dont you think we should poison obama?the fake president born abroad..He should be in prison with the other witch too isnt it?

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Wyttcat: 11:46pm On Oct 02, 2019
You don't need to be told that anyone with all the crimes she has committed must be made to face justice, as no one is above the law. There's no need to panic, just wait for it.

happney65:


Really?You dont mean it?that Hilary eats people for breakfast.lunch and dinner?Wahoo..I am speechless..then she must be a witch and we need to lock her up isnt it? grin grin grin

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Wyttcat: 11:58pm On Oct 02, 2019
Just go and lick your wound and get a cupcake, skinny leg!
Kophschmerzen:


That thing is bot. Just report to the mods and save yourself from talking to a wall.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Appleyard(m): 2:00am On Oct 03, 2019
Wyttcat:
I can't fix the problem of your life, you may have to see your shrink or whoever is handling such with you. I can only list the problem Trump is fixing that you asked. I hope you don't expect me to bring Trump himself to come explain to you cos one never knows the alternate universe you are in today.

See it again, these are what he has fixed, though I know you are blind to facts but someone can always point it out to you if you ask around.

You have to embrace reality first and stop your lies. Trump just got 6 millions off food stamps and no elites own 95% wealth in America, that's a lie and you need to stop it. I posted the chart yesterday and I hate repeating myself. Are you a blind man or just blind in spirit?

Stop it, you are not capable of calling a spade a spade, you are a swamp creature and it shows. I'm beginning to think you have ADHD. I told you yesterday that America is not a police state and that it's all in your fantasy and what you are making up, that will never happen in America. Now you are saying I didn't have answer to it, what particular answer do you want me to give? You are so leftist and want people to say what you like but that won't work with me.

Oh lawwd! Who have I been talking to! Go and read my previous post, I was the one saying Sweden is NOT a socialist country, I even corrected you yesterday and went to the extend of saying offering social services to the needy does not translate to socialist countries. You really need to take a break from this thread cos you are sounding like you lost your way mentally.

Fiirst of all, US and Sweden are not in the same class, and then California and New York are becoming what other states are scared of becoming. These two rich Democrats states have been run to the ground by the same leftist/liberals we are talking about, and Trump has just issued California violation over filth and homelessness.


This wasn't your original moniker, what happened?

Well, it seems you just don't get it . I don't hate Trump neither do I support him blindly. I call a spade a spade and nothing more.

My dig with you is right on socialist idealism which you are denying isn't playing out in America. In fact, the number of so called Democratic socialist movement in the US has increased tremendously Socialism is pure welfare and when a so-called democratic system start implementing same procedures, howbeit in limited format, it becomes a hybrid democracy. That is what you are stubbornly failing to see.

Oh, if I am blind and I have ADHD for calling out your ignorance and pulsating lies on healthcare and America being a police state, then that is okay with me. cool I don't condescend to the level of immature reasoning and conservative extremism harbored by your likes.I am too matured for that.cool

I don't expect much from someone who doesnt know that hundreds of thousands of Americans travel out of the country each year to access better and cheaper healthcare.

And how would you know that a state that overwhelmingly spies on and monitor the private lives of its citizens is a police state, since it is America and not China or Russia?

Your level of jingoism is something else. Even many die-hard American citizens know they are living a "Democratic lie".

According to your jingoistic mindset, the likes of Michael Snowden has ADHD for breaking the secret oath to expose the truth and educate your microscopic ignorance that you are living in a police state,right?

It is folks like you that would say there are no racist cops in America neither is the stupid justice system not rigged to undermine minorities, particularly blacks, until one of your own is murdered by agents of the hybrid state.

And stop playing the Dems card on all issues. I dislike them as much as others do, but I don't have to paint them black all the time when I know the real facts on ground. California and Newyork are not the only states in the US that runs on contrary principles. Some Republican run states are not better off either. In fact,Dems and GOPS are just two sides of the same coin with very little variance.

As Sanders rightly put it, as long as American electoral system isn't reformed,it will continue to be unfair and equally corrupt.


Bye.. cool

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Appleyard(m): 2:27am On Oct 03, 2019
Timbuktuo:
Edward Snowden
John Kiriakou
Chelsea Manning
Jeff Sterling.

These are whistleblowers with confirmed first hand information. Most on this list are still being punished, in fact, Snowden is on exile as we speak; Manning is in jail. When are the holy Dems going to protect their rights to whistleblow? Instead we are told that an unidentified individual, with second hand information grin is being protected. Foh

I am having the feeling that this whole thing will either boomerang or backfire. The Ukrainian president already stated he was not under any pressure whatsoever.

So I wonder on what basics will the dems be building their impeachment proceedings. This would be Pelosi's hangman's noose if it fails to go through, and from the look of things, it is heading in that direction.

From all logical reasoning, it will come to a point where they will have to disclose the identity of the whistleblower who outed this info, and that is where it will get more intriguing because from Pelosi's own statements, she knew about the info even before the so-called whistleblower blows it into the open. That was exactly what she implied on CBS NEWS "60 Minutes" live telecast.

Question: if you knew already, then who is the whistleblower you claim reveals it? And why wait for a whistleblower to reveal it?Something doesn't add up here. Or is itbjust a slip up from her? undecided

Well, with hands akinbo, I just they look they laugh.cool

Interesting times ahead. cool

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Appleyard(m): 2:43am On Oct 03, 2019
Timbuktuo:
Edward Snowden
John Kiriakou
Chelsea Manning
Jeff Sterling.

These are whistleblowers with confirmed first hand information. Most on this list are still being punished, in fact, Snowden is on exile as we speak; Manning is in jail. When are the holy Dems going to protect their rights to whistleblow? Instead we are told that an unidentified individual, with second hand information grin is being protected. Foh

American wonder. cool. Funny enough, the Uki president just said he was never in any way pressured and can never be pressured.

Its like, you were arrested for coming to my house to steal properties, then I came out and said, you didn't steal the property. Tell me; on what basics would the police rest their case should it go further?

Believe me, if I am a Democrat, I would be sitting with one yanch raised like a biblical cursed Egyptian because, if this impeachment moves fails, many of them would be roasted come 2020. It doesn't take a genius to know that. And this is just why it is going to get even more interesting as the new month wears on. The Dems know they have to stick to this one like a plague, no going back. But with Pelosi already contradicting herself, (or honestly slipping up?), the likelihood that this thing will backfire is getting higher.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Timbuktuo: 9:21am On Oct 03, 2019
Appleyard:


I am having the feeling that this whole thing will either boomerang or backfire. The Ukrainian president already stated he was not under any pressure whatsoever.

So I wonder on what basics will the dems be building their impeachment proceedings. This would be Pelosi's hangman's noose if it fails to go through, and from the look of things, it is heading in that direction.

From all logical reasoning, it will come to a point where they will have to disclose the identity of the whistleblower who outed this info, and that is where it will get more intriguing because from Pelosi's own statements, she knew about the info even before the so-called whistleblower blows it into the open. That was exactly what she implied on CBS NEWS "60 Minutes" live telecast.

Question: if you knew already, then who is the whistleblower you claim reveals it? And why wait for a whistleblower to reveal it?Something doesn't add up here. Or is itbjust a slip up from her? undecided

Well, with hands akinbo, I just they look they laugh.cool

Interesting times ahead. cool

First of all, let me say that this is a hoax and attempted coup like Trump has repeatedly stated. Let us even imagine they Trump is actually pressuring Ukraine to investigate Biden, is that really impeachable? On what basis? On the basis that Democrats say it is? Even a nursery school ward will dismiss it as a dry joke.

The truth is even Dems know Trump is going nowhere, this is their own campaign strategy to weaken Trump’s credibility. Look at all their own candidates, all of them are puny when compared with Trump, and because they can’t win in a clean fight, ie, the general elections, they want to weaken him by a thousand cuts.

Bush wasn’t impeached yet hen his administration invaded Iraq under pretenses; Obama wasn’t even looked at, let alone criticized over his Libyan destabilization. But the DNC, in cahoots with the very corrupt, very fake news media are trying to make us believe that this is the end of Trump. I don’t blame them, it’s because their target audience is imbeciiles like LucasBalo and GalacticHorde. When you are used to communicating with idiots, it can be challenging raising your IQ when addressing sensible people grin

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Timbuktuo: 9:30am On Oct 03, 2019
Appleyard:


American wonder. cool. Funny enough, the Uki president just said he was never in any way pressured and can never be pressured.

Its like, you were arrested for coming to my house to steal properties, then I came out and said, you didn't steal the property. Tell me; on what basics would the police rest their case should it go further?

Believe me, if I am a Democrat, I would be sitting with one yanch raised like a biblical cursed Egyptian because, if this impeachment moves fails, many of them would be roasted come 2020. It doesn't take a genius to know that. And this is just why it is going to get even more interesting as the new month wears on. The Dems know they have to stick to this one like a plague, no going back. But with Pelosi already contradicting herself, (or honestly slipping up?), the likelihood that this thing will backfire is getting higher.

Exactly. Any casual, impartial observer would immediately get suspicious of the coverage of this latest “scandal”. How can you force your narrative on a situation when the original lefties involved have repeatedly debunked your claims? Ah, ah. Is this not madness?

But, wait, rumour has it that this is all a ploy for the DNC and Deep State to cover up some of their own crimes. They are trying to make sa a stink so bad that when Trump reveals their own indiscretions that would be subdued and even dismissed as retaliation against them for trying to “bring him to book”. grin

Remember Mike Pompeo is in Italy as we speak. He is there to meet with the intelligence of Italy, Australia and one or two other countries to coordinate with them on the role of the deep state and a certain Mr. Misfud, and their role in the now dead collusion delusion debacle. grin

These motherfu**era are guilty as f*ck and they are on the offensive to make sure Trump doesn’t open their yansh. They know he really means to drain the swamp and the swamp is fighting back.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by TheShopKeeper(m): 11:44am On Oct 03, 2019
...i feel sorry for the finnish president - sauli niinisto at the press conference with talibantrump (this man is not presidential at all)...displaying his character in such a nasty way...even his favorite media house...fox news is not supporting his actions...

https://www.foxnews.com/media/brit-hume-defends-reporters-question-to-trump-regarding-biden-and-ukraine-says-freaking-out-doesnt-help-the-president

Fox News senior political analyst Brit Hume defended a Reuters reporter who angered President Trump with a question during a Wednesday news conference, claiming the reporter's question was "valid" and saying the president "freaking out" doesn't help his cause.

"This was a harshly worded attack. He attacked Jeff Mason, you know, accused him of being 'fake news' and all that, when he asked a perfectly valid question," Hume said about Trump on Wednesday on "The Story with Martha MacCallum."

During the news conference, Trump appeared irritated when Mason repeatedly pressed the president on exactly what information he hoped to receive from Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky when Trump asked for an investigation into the Bidens. That July phone call ignited the Trump impeachment inquiry, as Democrats said the call was evidence of Trump asking a foreign country to intervene in the 2020 U.S. presidential election.

“Did you hear me?” Trump told Mason, motioning for Mason to question the president of Finland, with whom Trump was addressing reporters. “Ask him a question. I’ve given you a long answer. Ask this gentlemen a question. Don’t be rude.”

After Mason tried instead to ask Trump an additional question, Trump dismissed the impeachment allegations as a “hoax” and accused journalists of “playing into it.”

“People like you and the fake news media that we have in this country,” he said. “And I say in many cases, the corrupt media because you’re corrupt. Much of the media in this country is not just fake, it’s corrupt.”

Hume was critical of the president's reaction.


...even the face of the finnish president says it all...
https://twitter.com/i/status/1179439900996902914

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by happney65: 11:53am On Oct 03, 2019
TheShopKeeper:
...i feel sorry for the finnish president - sauli niinisto at the press conference with talibantrump (this man is not presidential at all)...displaying his character in such a nasty way...even his favorite media house...fox news is not supporting his actions...

https://www.foxnews.com/media/brit-hume-defends-reporters-question-to-trump-regarding-biden-and-ukraine-says-freaking-out-doesnt-help-the-president

Fox News senior political analyst Brit Hume defended a Reuters reporter who angered President Trump with a question during a Wednesday news conference, claiming the reporter's question was "valid" and saying the president "freaking out" doesn't help his cause.

"This was a harshly worded attack. He attacked Jeff Mason, you know, accused him of being 'fake news' and all that, when he asked a perfectly valid question," Hume said about Trump on Wednesday on "The Story with Martha MacCallum."

During the news conference, Trump appeared irritated when Mason repeatedly pressed the president on exactly what information he hoped to receive from Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky when Trump asked for an investigation into the Bidens. That July phone call ignited the Trump impeachment inquiry, as Democrats said the call was evidence of Trump asking a foreign country to intervene in the 2020 U.S. presidential election.

“Did you hear me?” Trump told Mason, motioning for Mason to question the president of Finland, with whom Trump was addressing reporters. “Ask him a question. I’ve given you a long answer. Ask this gentlemen a question. Don’t be rude.”

After Mason tried instead to ask Trump an additional question, Trump dismissed the impeachment allegations as a “hoax” and accused journalists of “playing into it.”

“People like you and the fake news media that we have in this country,” he said. “And I say in many cases, the corrupt media because you’re corrupt. Much of the media in this country is not just fake, it’s corrupt.”

Hume was critical of the president's reaction.


...even the face of the finnish president says it all...
https://twitter.com/i/status/1179439900996902914



Myself and Wife burst into laughter when we watched yesternight..But like an average Buharist that will find someone else to blame except himself..It was a simple question the reporter asked..Now answer oga trump dey run..And if you press further,They will say it is the swamp fighting back or the deep state like that mumu above is saying..

Tell me which swamp is fighting back?Lol..Awon wayree arindin

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Appleyard(m): 12:12pm On Oct 03, 2019
Timbuktuo:


Exactly. Any casual, impartial observer would immediately get suspicious of the coverage of this latest “scandal”. How can you force your narrative on a situation when the original lefties involved have repeatedly debunked your claims? Ah, ah. Is this not madness?

But, wait, rumour has it that this is all a ploy for the DNC and Deep State to cover up some of their own crimes. They are trying to make sa a stink so bad that when Trump reveals their own indiscretions that would be subdued and even dismissed as retaliation against them for trying to “bring him to book”. grin

Remember Mike Pompeo is in Italy as we speak. He is there to meet with the intelligence of Italy, Australia and one or two other countries to coordinate with them on the role of the deep state and a certain Mr. Misfud, and their role in the now dead collusion delusion debacle. grin

These motherfu**era are guilty as f*ck and they are on the offensive to make sure Trump doesn’t open their yansh. They know he really means to drain the swamp and the swamp is fighting back.

I have always allowed logic to dictate my views on international politics, and it has helped me a lot.

Looking at it from a logical point of view, I really find it hard to comprehend the basis upon which the Dems are basing their claim. The content of the released transcript itself didn't even spell out anything that an ordinary reasonable man would immediately recognised as quid pro quo, or is there another version that we aren't told? Again, the supposed victim, Zelensky, have said he was NEVER pressured whatsoever. So it really baffles me what the dems are doing now. Except they have an ace up their sleeves, I dare say they have dug a landmine for themselves.

Like I stated before the 2016 election, and all through the course of the Mueller investigation, Dems actions towards Trump are mostly done out of irrational behavior. They jump on everything without first gaming the possible consequences. I don't know who is advising them or is it that God has turned the counsel of their political Ahitophel into unbridled foolishness?

They are making the same mistake they made during the 2016 election. Instead of focusing their campaign based on economic and social policies, Hillary and her entire house of Dems made Trump the basis of their campaign, comparing him to Putin and other stuffs, they made him even more popular.

Believe me, had the Mueller report came in before the concluded midterm elections, the story would have been different in the house today. That would have been the wake up call they need to atop acting irrationally. Fortunately and unfortunately for them, it came after the elections were done. And now, they are back in their usual folly.

Yes, it is folly because they can't see that all these is actually making Trump more popular. They fail to understand that when something lingers too much, it is normal that people will begin to loose interest. That is what they are doing to their voters base while hardening the resolve of the enemy's camp and even inspiring undecided voters to switch to the otherwise. Last time when I said all these in the formal thread and concludedvthat Trump would win, they called me names.

But at the end, logical reasoning always wins. And in this case, I am seeing similar scenario. Time will always tell. cool

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by obixcel(m): 4:38pm On Oct 03, 2019
TheShopKeeper:
...i feel sorry for the finnish president - sauli niinisto at the press conference with talibantrump (this man is not presidential at all)...displaying his character in such a nasty way...even his favorite media house...fox news is not supporting his actions...

https://www.foxnews.com/media/brit-hume-defends-reporters-question-to-trump-regarding-biden-and-ukraine-says-freaking-out-doesnt-help-the-president

Fox News senior political analyst Brit Hume defended a Reuters reporter who angered President Trump with a question during a Wednesday news conference, claiming the reporter's question was "valid" and saying the president "freaking out" doesn't help his cause.

"This was a harshly worded attack. He attacked Jeff Mason, you know, accused him of being 'fake news' and all that, when he asked a perfectly valid question," Hume said about Trump on Wednesday on "The Story with Martha MacCallum."

During the news conference, Trump appeared irritated when Mason repeatedly pressed the president on exactly what information he hoped to receive from Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky when Trump asked for an investigation into the Bidens. That July phone call ignited the Trump impeachment inquiry, as Democrats said the call was evidence of Trump asking a foreign country to intervene in the 2020 U.S. presidential election.

“Did you hear me?” Trump told Mason, motioning for Mason to question the president of Finland, with whom Trump was addressing reporters. “Ask him a question. I’ve given you a long answer. Ask this gentlemen a question. Don’t be rude.”

After Mason tried instead to ask Trump an additional question, Trump dismissed the impeachment allegations as a “hoax” and accused journalists of “playing into it.”

“People like you and the fake news media that we have in this country,” he said. “And I say in many cases, the corrupt media because you’re corrupt. Much of the media in this country is not just fake, it’s corrupt.”

Hume was critical of the president's reaction.


...even the face of the finnish president says it all...
https://twitter.com/i/status/1179439900996902914


Yes, because of the dishonesty of your most trusted allies in the fake news he had to push back. The Fake news media would never let him be. I love how he calls them out. If you consider it unpresidential, we consider it as simply ''fighting back''. I'm sure by now you are regurgitating the New York times' fake news of ''Alligators and snakes at the Border'' that they claim President Trump is planning on.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by obixcel(m): 4:45pm On Oct 03, 2019
California just lost their legal case against President Trump, which had to do with them removing Trump's name from the Ballot in California except he releases his tax returns grin

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by obixcel(m): 4:48pm On Oct 03, 2019
Hillary still calls President Trump an ''illegitimate President''
Hahahahahaha

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by TheShopKeeper(m): 5:30pm On Oct 03, 2019
obixcel:
Yes, because of the dishonesty of your most trusted allies in the fake news he had to push back. The Fake news media would never let him be. I love how he calls them out. If you consider it unpresidential, we consider it as simply ''fighting back''. I'm sure by now you are regurgitating the New York times' fake news of ''Alligators and snakes at the Border'' that they claim President Trump is planning on.


....but it was the white house that release the transcript of the phone call conversation to the media (https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Unclassified09.2019.pdf)...so what is fake news about that...the press journalists are asking him legitimate questions...if he doesn't want to answer then he could have simply say...'no comment'...end of story...instead of embrassing himself... downgrading the office of the president...the white house...the republican party...and the united states of america before a foreign dignitary...

...also the report was from talibantrump favorite media...fox news...

...unfortunately...talibantrump is devoid of tact...devoid of protocol...and devoid of common decency...


https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Unclassified09.2019.pdf
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 5:34pm On Oct 03, 2019
China too?

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by coluka: 5:54pm On Oct 03, 2019
budaatum:
China too?
Joe Biden is not above the law,
If there are allegations of crimes by him and his son, it should be investigated, being a presidential candidate doesn't make you above the law

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by TheShopKeeper(m): 5:59pm On Oct 03, 2019
budaatum:
China too?


...it is very funny coming from trump...

...isn't it ironic that trump's daughter ivanka works at the white house as adviser to the president...her husband jared...also work in the white house...rudy guilliani's son works in the white house...william barr (personal attorney general to trump)...his son-in-law works at white house...barr's daughter works in treasury...trump's sons (don jr and eric) do various foreign businesses in the middle east...russian oligarhs investing in trump tower through money laudering (hence reason why his tax returns have not been released)...ivanka is getting chinese patents and copyrights for some of her products and some grants from saudi arabia...

...trumps whole family are the biggest family of drifters...so much from the 'stable genius'...

...i think at this stage...someone in this administration with big 'cojones' should activate the '25th amendment'...because it is becoming very clear...trump is not fit to be the president of the united states of america....

https://twitter.com/i/status/1179770084040019971

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by coluka: 6:12pm On Oct 03, 2019
obixcel:
Hillary still calls President Trump an ''illegitimate President''
Hahahahahaha
This was the same woman who said Trump will be unpatriotic if he doesn't accept the result of the 2016 elections. she she would win but the moment she lost, she no longer had any problem with someone refusing to accept election results. she's the very definition of hypocrisy

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by TheShopKeeper(m): 6:29pm On Oct 03, 2019
...here is a statement from the federal electoral commission of the united states of america...


https://www.fec.gov/resources/cms-content/documents/Chair_Weintraub_on_Illegal_Foreign_Contributions.pdf


Statement Regarding Illegal Contributions
From Foreign Governments
June 13, 2019

Let me make something 100% clear to the American public and anyone running for public office: It is illegal for any person to solicit, accept, or receive anything of value from a foreign national in connection with a U.S. election.1 This is not a novel concept. Electoral intervention from foreign governments has been considered unacceptable since the beginnings of our nation. Our Founding Fathers sounded the alarm about “foreign Interference, Intrigue, and Influence.” They knew that when foreign governments seek to influence American politics, it is always to advance their own interests, not America’s. Anyone who solicits or accepts foreign assistance risks being on the wrong end of a federal investigation. Any political campaign that receives an offer of a prohibited donation from a foreign source should report that offer to the Federal Bureau of Investigation.



...now compare the statement to what talibantrump is saying asking both russia and china to do about joe biden...

https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4820764/president-trump-ukraine-president-investigate-bidens

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 6:50pm On Oct 03, 2019
coluka:

Joe Biden is not above the law,
And neither is Potus, if there is a law against asking for foreign assistance for electoral gain.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by 7Alexandre: 7:19pm On Oct 03, 2019
coluka:

Joe Biden is not above the law,
If there are allegations of crimes by him and his son, it should be investigated, being a presidential candidate doesn't make you above the law

While China is investigating Former Vice President Joe Biden, China should also look into the Trademarks given to Ivanka Trump.

You know the ones that were denied before the father became President then suddenly were approved.

Something illegal definitely happened behind the scene.

We need to find out.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by 7Alexandre: 7:23pm On Oct 03, 2019
I mean how does Ivanka Trump get 18 Chinese Patents suddenly after her Father became President?

While at that we also need to investigate the crookedness of Jared Kushner business dealings with the Arabs mainly the Saudi Government as well as the United Arab Emirates.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Trapping(m): 8:28pm On Oct 03, 2019
Appleyard:


I have always allowed logic to dictate my views on international politics, and it has helped me a lot.

Looking at it from a logical point of view, I really find it hard to comprehend the basis upon which the Dems are basing their claim. The content of the released transcript itself didn't even spell out anything that an ordinary reasonable man would immediately recognised as quid pro quo, or is there another version that we aren't told? Again, the supposed victim, Zelensky, have said he was NEVER pressured whatsoever. So it really baffles me what the dems are doing now. Except they have an ace up their sleeves, I dare say they have dug a landmine for themselves.

Like I stated before the 2016 election, and all through the course of the Mueller investigation, Dems actions towards Trump are mostly done out of irrational behavior. They jump on everything without first gaming the possible consequences. I don't know who is advising them or is it that God has turned the counsel of their political Ahitophel into unbridled foolishness?

They are making the same mistake they made during the 2016 election. Instead of focusing their campaign based on economic and social policies, Hillary and her entire house of Dems made Trump the basis of their campaign, comparing him to Putin and other stuffs, they made him even more popular.

Believe me, had the Mueller report came in before the concluded midterm elections, the story would have been different in the house today. That would have been the wake up call they need to atop acting irrationally. Fortunately and unfortunately for them, it came after the elections were done. And now, they are back in their usual folly.

Yes, it is folly because they can't see that all these is actually making Trump more popular. They fail to understand that when something lingers too much, it is normal that people will begin to loose interest. That is what they are doing to their voters base while hardening the resolve of the enemy's camp and even inspiring undecided voters to switch to the otherwise. Last time when I said all these in the formal thread and concludedvthat Trump would win, they called me names.

But at the end, logical reasoning always wins. And in this case, I am seeing similar scenario. Time will always tell. cool

If every Nigerian has your logical reasoning ability, we would be amongst the first world nations. Your thought process is always out of this world, I'm saying this not only on this issue at hand, but I've read much of your writings on Narialand and mehn, they are without logical flaws. Even when someone disagrees with you, the person cannot deny the fact that your reasons are based on pragmatic implications.

Kudos!!

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by GalaticHorde: 10:54pm On Oct 03, 2019
ycat:
You are just typing trash all over the place.Just go straight to the point. I can't keep repeating myself.

Free education to 12 grade is free and you can get college loan for the rest, community college is even cheaper
Though I am sorely tempted to dismiss the entirety of your post as same gibberish you posted for lack of any logical argument to stand on, I posted that the free education till 12th grade you're touting varies in quality from district to district from fair to absolutely abysmal, you didn't address that. Cheap community college can still leave you tens of thousands to hundreds of thousands of dollars of student loans debt if you were not rich enough to pay outright or fortunate enough to have scholarship, is there any part of this assertion you care to deny? undecided
https://www.scimagojr.com/countryrank.php?area=2700
That link will provide you with academic research by different countries from 2006-17 I think, refine your search under medicine and cure yourself of your ignorance and arrogance.

Medicaids and Medicare is there for the old and the poor.

Unfortunately for you Republicans are the people who believe no child left behind. They offer school choices with free vouchers while Democrats siphon the money given to their school districts and prevent their students from meeting reading standards and leaving for better schools because Democrats don't want black kids to do well, Democrats want permanent underclass and want black people to depend on handouts.

Medicare and Medicaid doesn't cover everything Mr. Stop all your hogwash of democrats this democrats that when the poorest and educationally disadvantaged states are mostly republican, republican states constitute the majority of welfare states, go and argue with the facts not me. Democrats want social security for both whites and blacks and in my own humble opinion if it means fewer white billionaires then so be it, a lot of white trans generational old money originated on the blood of black slaves and was abetted by a racist pro-white government for a long time, that was the real hand out but you are either too stupid or brainwashed to see it as such. You have a grouse with that? I didn't make up the history

What good is in the lack of choices in universal healthcare that's is rationed and people die on waiting list? If the US follows other social medicine countries you are talking about, who then will be the one providing what the US is giving to your country? United states model is still the best in the world, in the land of the blind the one with one eye is king. And yes, in at least 30 years there hasn't be any medical breakthrough in UK, and Canada.
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=2912383508793120&id=908009612563863

Will you Just STFU with your brazen bare faced lies? you are either as dumb or dumber than the republican talking heads who invented the people dying on waiting list B.S from their arses, you as most Republicans are a good example of acceptance/affirmation by repetition. People are dying in numbers for lack of coverage from your for profit health financing at least 45,000 a year according to the link above and you're here repeating vapid lies someone with half a brain would see through in the absence of partisan bias, for all the flaws of social medicine as practiced by other countries, they are miles ahead of the U.S in terms of healthcare delivery especially for those lacking in means.
http://worldpopulationreview.com/countries/best-healthcare-in-the-world/

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/slideshows/countries-with-the-most-well-developed-public-health-care-system
I can provide from different sources over and over again, the U.S isn't even in the top 10 and every country above it has social medicine or a significant element of it.

They cross the border to get the best even when it's free over there. Americans can't go for treatment in Canada because some consider Canada to be a third world country. As for medicine, they buy from Mexico more than they buy from Canada and they are still medicines made in the US sold out expensive in bulk to other countries. For example, the Epin is made here in the USA and sold to Mexico, but for some reasons it's cheaper over there than where it is made. That's pharmaceutical thing to figure out.

American health systems works, no one is dying here for lack of treatment or money to pay for it. No one is crossing the border for medical treatment from the US.
Tell the average of 45,000 Americans who die each year due to lack of or inadequate coverage how no one is dying each year, its funny that you should mention epin, take truvada as a case study, costs $1700 and above in the U.S and $8 in Australia and mostly less than $50 in other countries, same goes for almost every other drug including basic insulin shots
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=377682729794039&id=908009612563863, the same pharmcos still make profits from lower prices negotiated with each country's single payer, while they extort the lifeblood from Americans after lobbying your lawmakers into compromise, yes the reason you don't know why epin and almost every other drug made in the U.S is cheaper in mexico is lobbying/corruption and the fact that the pharmcos can negotiate with different private insurers from state to state at their own advantage while the patients pick up the bills


You are the one misinforming people here. Everything you said is standing logic on it's head and they make no sense. There is no need to campaign for socialist on this thread cos that won't be coming to America anytime soon. I know people who pay as little as 50 cent on medicine and go to hospital for free. That 50 cents is important because she is paying something. A government that gives you everything will take all things away from you including your dignity. There's no free lunch anywhere , someone is paying for it somehow and I'd rather people pay a little than die while waiting for treatment and have doctors and govt make decisions on your health when you aren't dead.

The rest of your post is a waste of time, I feel like I'm repeating myself. Try and make it short I'm not on desktop or laptop.



this is the last response I will give to your gibberish as either you are too drunk on the republican kool aid for you to be able to make unbiased conclusions and I am clearly wasting my effort on you! Funny one would've have thought good healthcare was a non partisan human thing but with trumpetskins you can never know what kinda stupidity you'd receive as a response

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by GalaticHorde: 11:02pm On Oct 03, 2019
Timbuktuo:


You’re not stupid, but you believe people who voted for Trump are stupid. That, alone, is a clear sign of stupidity
if you voted for trump on the lines of global warming is a hoax, mexico will pay for the border wall, terrorists and drugs majorly come across the southern land border among many of his other outright lies campaign sound bytes then i go by the evidence to pronounce you very very effing stupid! Too stupid to understand your own stupidity in the first place

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