benalvino3:


Hungary

Hear their name now, ben! Hungary people are hungry and you are stating the rather obvious. Here in blighty we are just about bringing out our pre-winter coats and indoors a light sweater and heating is not on yet unless you are ajebuta.

Oyinbo no de comfort their self at the expense of warming the globe, ben. And we are not a hungry nation!

Ibime:


Exactly.

Orban has always been a black sheep through this process and is a self avowed Putinphile. He and Erdogan are the only ones that haven't formally signed off Sweden and Finland ascension into NATO. He is butthurt and getting aggressive because EU voted to declare Hungary an electoral autocracy and he promised reprisals. He is using referendum to back Putin, so he can wash his hands and say it's the will of the people. If care is not taken, Hungary membership of EU will be put on the table.

you are a fascist with your globalist mentality do you know that?

Italy democratically elected Someone, You came talking about Neonazi and how the EU will not give them handouts.
When a country decides how they manage their borders from illegal immigrants and other issues, the EU calls them fascist and neonazi. this is exactly why France, Italy, and England thought about leaving the EU.

autocratic bureaucrats should not be dictating every facet of a nation's business.

EU was warning Italy if they voted for a center-right Meloni.
Obama did the same to the UK if they left EU. so these globalists whose ass you kiss with your fascist mentality can call Hungary whatever they want.

Turkish Drones have destroyed Russian Assets more than any other nation. long before the war started, the turkey had issues with Russia where they use their drones to destroy their backed Syrian militia. they are doing the same in Libya. so close your mouth. Germany is more a Russian puppet than Hungary and Turkey. Turkey even shoot down one of the Russian planes that were around the border and Syrian border.

Maybe, If the EU is not prejudiced against Turkey and let them join the EU, things would have changed. you don't see it from that perspective. you must spew the BS these Bureaucrats put in their propaganda machine.

Thanks to President Biden, i believe Florida is now prepared to weather the upcoming Cat 5 hurricane Ian.
It will be an interesting political dynamic when President Biden visits Florida after this.

Ibime:


Exactly.

Orban has always been a black sheep through this process and is a self avowed Putinphile. He and Erdogan are the only ones that haven't formally signed off Sweden and Finland ascension into NATO. He is butthurt and getting aggressive because EU voted to declare Hungary an electoral autocracy and he promised reprisals. He is using referendum to back Putin, so he can wash his hands and say it's the will of the people. If care is not taken, Hungary membership of EU will be put on the table.

Hungary is not a democracy Eh? they held elections where US and EU grossly interfered but Orban won handsomely with a two thirds seat majority. They want Hungary to take in more immigrants, promote LBGTQ++ nonsense, and all those other socialist ideals leftists dream of. Looks like you will never understand some things. The EU mandarins and the US leftists think of themselves as the elite , they guide us on what is good and best for us. I have heard cases where the WB/IMF/ECB demand countries raise taxes on particular products (esp oil( in order to meet certain loan conditions. When oil is raised the manufacturing competitiveness edge of that country is diminished.
The EU is after power grab, their laws supercede member states EU has done good things though for the developing world .
Talking of which the new Italian PM had this to say about Emmanuel Macron


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2_zDVi48Yw

basilico:


Hungary is not a democracy Eh? they held elections where US and EU grossly interfered but Orban won handsomely with a two thirds seat majority. They want Hungary to take in more immigrants, promote LBGTQ++ nonsense, and all those other socialist ideals leftists dream of.
The EU is after power grab, their laws supercede member states EU has done good things though for the developing world .
Talking of which the new Italian PM had this to say about Emmanuel Macron


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2_zDVi48Yw

Ibime is just a shill for the propaganda machine. he is not aware of what is going on.

anyone who does not do the bidding of Brussels is undemocratic and a Nazi. shameful

benalvino3:


Ibime is just a shill for the propaganda machine. he is not aware of what is going on.

anyone who does not do the bidding of Brussels is undemocratic and a Nazi. shameful

France recived reparations from Haiti for close to seventy years. They had warships out in the open sea telling Haiti ' What a nice little Island you have there . Would be a shame if something happened to it'

The restored French monarchy, supported by European monarchies, sent the 1825 French expedition to Haiti to demand with military threats for massive compensations: Haiti must repay the French government and former slaveholders the modern equivalent of US$105 billion, later reduced to US$21 billion
The French government finally acknowledged the payment of 90 million francs in 1888 and over a period of about seventy years, Haiti paid 112 million francs to France, about $560 million in 2022.

basilico:


Hungary is not a democracy Eh? they held elections where US and EU grossly interfered but Orban won handsomely with a two thirds seat majority.

I did not tell you anything. I only explained to Ben why Hungary is holding referendum on sanctions - as a reaction to the EU vote to brand them an autocracy.

Ibime:


I did not tell you anything. I only explained to Ben why Hungary is holding referendum on sanctions - as a reaction to the EU vote to brand them an autocracy

. to you, anything that does not go Brussel's way should be vilified

benalvino3:


. to you, anything that does not go Brussel's way should be vilified

If they were not a beggarly nation, they should hold a referendum on leaving EU altogether if it sure them that Russia can butter their bread better. EU has been opposing a despot and they have been supporting him, so they should pick sides finally.

Ibime:


If they were not a beggarly nation, they should hold a referendum on leaving EU altogether if it sure them that Russia can butter their bread better. EU has been opposing a despot and they have been supporting him, so they should pick sides finally.

there is nothing like Beggarly nation. to you, it is anyone who does not bow. Brussels stays in its bubble and dictates where a nation can fish and when in its own water. BS.

the EU is not buttering their bread oga

Ibime:


If they were not a beggarly nation, they should hold a referendum on leaving EU altogether if it sure them that Russia can butter their bread better. EU has been opposing a despot and they have been supporting him, so they should pick sides finally.

Brussels is a big boys club. Join us we make you rich but we shall have a say over your countries policies, laws and conduct. Kinda slave mentality. I feed n clothe you but you shud do whatever I demand of you.
That is self righteousness on the EU mandarins

benalvino3:


there is nothing like Beggarly nation. to you, it is anyone who does not bow. Brussels stays in its bubble and dictates where a nation can fish and when in its own water. BS.

the EU is not buttering their bread oga

They know who is buttering their bread by the delta Y of their GDP per Capita chart from when they start associating with EU. Leave fishing talks for fishermen, those who count the money know what they are doing in EU.

German protesters on Sep 26 demanding end to sanctions amidst high gas prices.

feedthenation:
---Trump deserves a Nobel Peace Prize---he wants to bring solution to the Russia-Ukraine war---

Kikikikikikiki

basilico:
German protesters on Sep 26 demanding end to sanctions amidst high gas prices.

There are 2 million ethnic Russians in Germany. Na dem dem. They also held Z parade at the start of the war

Ibime:


They know who is buttering their bread by the delta Y of their GDP per Capita chart from when they start associating with EU. Leave fishing talks for fishermen, those who count the money know what they are doing in EU.

I would think their GDP grew mostly from moving from state control to free market. Like so many countries that had gov in every sector.

basilico:


I would think their GDP grew mostly from moving from state control to free market. Like so many countries that had gov in every sector.

Their GDP started growing astronomically in 2000 when they got access to EU market, not 1991 when they joined the free world

Ibime:


Their GDP started growing astronomically in 2000 when they got access to EU market, not 1991 when they joined the free world

That's handout by your definition?

Ibime:


Their GDP started growing astronomically in 2000 when they got access to EU market, not 1991 when they joined the free world

What did you expect? The West is richer than the Eastern Europe , If you trade more with the EU the more the income you get.
Free trade comes with a caveat though. The West is already advanced and can crush local industries from product superiority and mass production.

Joining the market does not mean giving up your laws to the EU. It does not mean the EU meddles in the internal affairs. More so the EU created the migration crisis in Libya and Syria , leading to mass migration. Hungary - Orban refuses to accept a quota demanded by the bureaucrats and wins four consecutive elections despite massive injection of funds by EU and George Soros

basilico:


And whats the best way to deal with racism? A few suggestions would suffice.

America is not a racist country

raumdeuter:


America is not a racist country

Democrats invoke racist on anyone who does not go with their flow. Right now they want to portray MAGA as racists in order to win the elections in November. With the FBI and DOJ gladly helping push the narrative.

basilico:


Democrats invoke racist on anyone who does not go with their flow.

Republikans toos

Kikikikikikiki

benalvino3:


That's handout by your definition?

Apart from the trade advantage of open access to EU markets, they are the second highest beneficiaries budget wise behind Poland

Ibime:


Apart from the trade advantage of open access to EU markets, they are the second highest beneficiaries budget wise behind Poland

Again, I am asking how are they giving handouts.

feedthenation:
---Trump deserves a Nobel Peace Prize---he wants to bring solution to the Russia-Ukraine war---

At least Trump knows Russia is behind this, his fans should take a clue

benalvino3:


Again, I am asking how are they giving handouts.

By subsidlsing their yearly budget to the tune of £5bln as well as granting them unfettered access to the 2nd biggest market in the world?

Markets gave Liz Truss tax policy a hammering. Rishi Sunak policy was very sensible but per se he backstabbed Boris, Tories no want gree. I miss David Cameron and George Osborne austerity

When the hurricane hits Florida, federal aid will flow into help paid for by tax dollars from Americans across the country. Airplanes will be full of supplies, not stunts. There will be no "us" and "them." Because this is how America should act, and most Americans know it.

Ibime:


By subsidlsing their yearly budget to the tune of £5bln as well as granting them unfettered access to the 2nd biggest market in the world?

The EU is a bunch of countries acting as one to look big market-wise. so the EU needs these countries to expand their market. So don't act like the EU won't Die when France says their regulations are enough and Hungary and other countries like Italy pull out.

So tell us how the EU will stop giving Italy or Hungary the imaginary handout you have been talking about?

saxywale2:
When the hurricane hits Florida, federal aid will flow into help paid for by tax dollars from Americans across the country. Airplanes will be full of supplies, not stunts. There will be no "us" and "them." Because this is how America should act, and most Americans know it.

this man is being abused

Hurricane destroys stuff which is why you need to be vaccinated to prepare for it. Biden just killed me

https://twitter.com/thewillwitt/status/1574860486704766986?s=20&t=5E85MzX8oJ0yDrQYsxCybg