IjeBos:


Let's see what the Supreme Court decides. I'm 50/50 on it. I would have liked the courts to have weighed in through a trial first (due process). But I am curious to read the decision to see how the Conservative court and their "originalism" tackle the constitutions words.

JessicaRabbit:


You seem to think I'm some die-hard Carroll fanatic, clinging to her every word. LOL. Relax, I'm simply admiring the flaws in your analysis. You see, it's all well and good to wave your dismissive paw, but where's the engagement with the actual evidence and arguments she presents? Don't tell me you're afraid to tumble down the rabbit hole of logic, are you? I see you still insist on playing the 'mentally sick woman' card. How cliché of you. And the article that you linked to is chock full of logical fallacies, ad hominem attacks, and unsubstantiated claims.

By the way, E. Jean isn't some random internet nobody. She's a published author and veteran Elle columnist with a 26-year track record. But hey, facts are the enemy of a good witch hunt, right? And let's not forget, she's just one of over 20 women who accused Trump of similar behavior. But sure, let's focus on her tweets because...reasons? And speaking of tweets, Carroll did not admit to deleting her tweets, but to archiving them. She explained that she did so to protect her privacy and safety, as some of the tweets contained personal information or abusive messages. But before you erupt with "censorship!" cries, consider this: those tweets are still lurking, like digital ghosts, ready to be summoned as evidence if need be. Furthermore, she claimed that Trump damaged her reputation and career by calling her a liar and implying that she was too unattractive to rape. The death threats she received on Twitter were a consequence of Trump's defamatory statements, not a motive for her lawsuit.

Oh, and while you're busy dissecting Carroll's fashion sense, you're missing the bigger picture. The dress isn't a museum exhibit, it's a symbol of courage, worn proudly like a warrior's armor. She didn't don it to impress Vogue editors in 2019, but to stare down her accuser and the world. Now, about that 1994 label mix-up? Let's not get hung up on fashion faux pas when we're talking about something far more profound. It's like nitpicking the wallpaper in a burning building. Focus on the flames, big guy, not the decor.

Thus far, all you've continued to do is make a barrage of accusations, while employing common tactics used to discredit and silence survivors of sexual assault, and it reflects the rape myths that pervade our culture. One of the rape myths that you seem to endorse is that rape is caused by the perpetrator's uncontrollable sexual urge, and that women who dress or act provocatively are inviting or deserving of rape. This is what Carroll was challenging when she said that rape is not sexy, but a violent crime. She was not implying that she enjoyed being raped, as you suggest, but that she was trying to cope with the trauma and stigma of being a survivor. She was also exposing the hypocrisy and double standards that exist in our society, where women are expected to be sexually attractive, but not sexually assertive. Your replies so far read more like clear attempts to discredit and silence Carroll, who is one of the many women who have accused Trump of sexual misconduct.

Obrigardo:


You know the Colorado Supreme court already kicked the criminal off the ballot. Now all eyes are on SCOTUS to see if they are going to go rogue. Clearance thomas hasn't recused himself yet. And It will be interesting to see how Gorsuch rules considering the Colorado court used his benchmark ruling as the context for removing criminal trump.
My prediction is that Scotus will uphold Colorado in a 6-3 or 5-4 decision i.e if clearance won't recuse himself. The justices who will dissent must provide clear explanation as to why they think 14.3 doesn't apply to criminal trump, considering over 700 people have been sent to jail by participating in this Insurrection.
The same decision will come down with the Immunity case.

Criminal trump will lose all round.

zendi:
The dream world is a cacotopian world.

The individual I saw in my dream owns numerous luxury mansions and hotels in his country and beyond.
They are not few, the number of women that would be only too willing to be "lured" or "tricked" into one of those places for a "rape" or two.

Yet that individual was said to have snubbed all those resources to go and rape one scrawny, scraggy entity in a supermarket toilet at peak work day period.
And the matter took 30 solid years to reach a woke mob cacotopian courthouse.

Then, you needed to see the sheer barbarity of the robbery financial penalty imposed just for defaming her... If convicted for rape, it surely would have been the guillotine for the individual.

I saw the great world leader, Chairman Kim Jong Un, laughing derisively at Woketopia in that dream.

Makes up a fake assault claim , gets called on it , gets 83 million.

basilico:


You don't get it at all.

This woman can't remember the year she was raped, She still keeps the dress and never wore it or washed it all those years.

Kinda roleplaying Linda Tripp who adviced Monica Lewinsky to preserve the blue dress that had Bill Clinton's semen. Carroll never produced that dress for forensics.

As for the Law n Order series where someone was violated in the same store's dressing room, Ste comes out with same script 7 years after it aired, mind you twas another program she used to watch.She said she joked about him dressing up in the lingerie Trump apparently went in to buy her.

Deleting her Twitter messages. You are insincere that she got death threats after Trump said she was a liar and not his type. Let her produce her full texts, You can't prove that she did not get the threats after excerpts of her book became public and before Trump responded. Because she deleted her darn texts!!!

I could talk on her behalf that she deserves to be heard but the coincidences are not weighing in her favor.
She has accused several others of sexually violating her.. I'll get the exact number but it's more than 5.

She used to watch the apprentice by her words that features Trump, the show with him ran for 14 seasons from 2004. He reportedly made $215m from it. Jean Carroll would have come out then and destroyed him, She never did.
She was happy to watch a show that made her violator world famous and rich.

Kathy Griffin. George Conway. Reid Hoffman, Epstein the paedophile's good friend.
( If Trump wins Epstein children fucker's buddies will be called to account I hope). The three sworn Trump haters Add New York State, that extended the statute of limitations for sexual harrassment by a year, enabling her to sue Trump hours after it was passed. Coincidental?

You seem to know more. Tell me how would a jury find Trump Not guilty of rape but of sexual violation without forensics.

Why would the judge call him a convicted rapist while he wasn't found guilty of that? The judge was a senior managing partner where her lawyer worked, he definitely knew the shining star of his former lawfirm, It's defence position that he was her mentor.

As for the dress, it was NYT who discovered that the dress she claimed to wear then had not been designed then.

So traumatic was the incidence She was writing a column about anal sex and not about " Me too" over the years.

Jean Carroll was attending a Kathy Griffin bash when she met George Conway, never Trumper founder of Lincoln project, who convinced her to sue. Reid Hoffman is paying her lawyer.
Kathy Griffin most infamous photo below. Jean Carroll friend.

zendi:
The dream world is a cacotopian world.

The individual I saw in my dream owns numerous luxury mansions and hotels in his country and beyond.
They are not few, the number of women that would be only too willing to be "lured" or "tricked" into one of those places for a "rape" or two.

Yet that individual was said to have snubbed all those resources to go and rape one scrawny, scraggy entity in a supermarket toilet at peak work day period.
And the matter took 30 solid years to reach a woke mob cacotopian courthouse.

You needed to see the sheer barbarity of the robbery financial penalty imposed just for defaming her... If convicted of rape, it surely would have been the guillotine for the individual.

I saw the great world leader, Chairman Kim Jong Un, laughing derisively at Woketopia in that dream.

Trump: Yeah, that’s her. With the gold. I better use some Tic Tacs just in case I start kissing her. You know, I’m automatically attracted to beautiful — I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait. And when you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything.
...
Trump: Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.

basilico:


Who has any insurrection indictment?
Zero.
Case closed.

JessicaRabbit:


I wouldn't say I "don't get it at all". More like I'm choosing not to get lost in the labyrinth you've built.



This is just you engaging in victim blaming by implying that Carroll's memory of the year is relevant to the validity of her claim. Many survivors of sexual assault experience trauma-related memory loss. It doesn't mean they are lying or confused.



You are making a false analogy here by comparing Carroll to Monica Lewinsky, who had a consensual affair with Bill Clinton. Carroll did not keep the dress as evidence, but as a reminder of her strength and resilience. She also wore the dress publicly several times, unlike Lewinsky.



Calling something a "Law and Order plot" is about as specific as blaming the weather on "the sky stuff." There is no evidence that Carroll ever watched that show, and the episode in question aired in 2012, not 2016 as you claim. Your conspiracy theory has no meat. Maybe your tinfoil hat is picking up extra signals?



Carroll's Twitter messages vanished? Fake news, faker than a toupee made of spun sugar. Her tweets are as present as a stubborn houseguest overstaying their welcome. Carroll did not delete her Twitter messages, but only made them private after receiving death threats and harassment from Trump supporters. Her lawsuit was not funded by Reid Hoffman, but by a nonprofit organization that provides legal support to survivors of sexual violence. Hoffman's donation was made before Carroll filed her suit and he had no prior knowledge that his funding would go to support her in particular. Your statements are about as accurate as a blindfolded archer. Let's stick to what we actually know.



Another classic example of endorsing rape myths and perpetuating a culture of disbelief and stigma towards survivors. The fact that Carroll has experienced multiple instances of sexual violence does not make her less trustworthy or less deserving of justice. On the contrary, it shows the prevalence and severity of the problem of sexual violence in our society.



At this point, I'm not surprised that you would blatantly ignore the psychological and social barriers that many survivors of sexual assault face. According to the Rape, Abuse & Incest National Network (RAINN), only 23% of sexual assaults are reported to the police, and the reasons for not reporting include fear of retaliation, shame, self-blame, distrust of the legal system, and lack of support. Carroll herself said that she did not report the assault because she blamed herself and felt that no one would believe her. She also said that she was inspired by the #MeToo movement and other women who came forward with their stories of abuse by Trump.



Your claim is a wild shot in the dark. In fact, it is as baseless as Trump's hairpiece. Carroll is a famous writer and media star who knows a lot of big shots. But none of them had anything to do with her suing Trump or paying her lawyer. She is footing the bill herself and she doesn't want a dime from Trump. She also doesn't give a hoot about his presidency or his politics. She just wants him to admit that he did her wrong and clear her name.



You're asking a loaded question that suggests the jury was clueless or blind. That's not the case. The jury listened to Carroll, her two buddies who backed her up, two other ladies who had similar stories about Trump, and Trump himself. The jury also got to see a picture of Carroll and Trump looking cozy in 1987, the Access Hollywood tape where Trump boasted about his groping skills, and the dress that Carroll wore when it happened. The jury compared all the evidence and decided that Carroll was telling the truth and Trump was lying. The jury also agreed that Trump insulted Carroll by saying she was a loser, and not his cup of tea. The jury's verdict was based on the most convincing evidence, which is how it works in civil cases.



Trump got slapped with a $5 million bill for being a sexual predator and a liar in the first trial. He got slapped again with a whopping $83.3 million bill for being a liar in the second trial. The judge in the first trial made it clear that Trump had done the deed that rhymes with "grape". The jury in the second trial didn't have to waste time on that, since it was already a done deal. So, yeah, Trump is a certified rapist, and the judge was right to say so.

Plus, The judge in the first trial, Lewis Kaplan, was not a senior managing partner where Carroll's lawyer, Roberta Kaplan, worked. He was a partner at a different law firm, Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison. There is no evidence that he was her mentor, or that he had any conflict of interest in presiding over the case. He was randomly assigned to the case by the court's computer system.



New York Times didn't unearth the dress that Carroll was wearing when she was attacked. She did, after hoarding it in her wardrobe for ages. The dress was a Donna Karan creation from 1993, and she bought it from Bergdorf Goodman, the very place where the assault took place. The dress had some DNA traces on it, which Carroll was willing to examine, but Trump chickened out of giving a sample. The dress was a badge of Carroll's bravery and resistance, as she rocked it again for the cover of her book, What Do We Need Men For?: A Modest Proposal.



Carroll wasn't penning a column on anal sex, but on sex and relationships in general, for Elle magazine. She didn't keep mum about her assault, but confided in two of her pals right after it happened, who both backed her up in court. She also spilled the beans in her book, which came out in 2019, before she bumped into George Conway at a shindig thrown by Kathy Griffin. Conway, a big-shot conservative lawyer and Trump basher, urged Carroll to drag Trump to court for defamation after he brushed off the assault. Reid Hoffman, the bigwig behind LinkedIn, isn't footing the bill for Carroll's lawyer, but has chipped in to the Time's Up Legal Defense Fund, which helps victims of sexual harassment and assault.



Pointless assertion. Kathy Griffin is not relevant to the case, nor is her infamous photo of holding a fake severed head of Trump, which she apologized for. Carroll is friends with Griffin, but that does not affect her credibility or her right to seek justice.

You are using sexism, honor, and fragile masculinity to rationalize your support for Trump and your baseless dismissal of Carroll, ignoring the evidence and the arguments presented by Carroll and her lawyer, and focusing on irrelevant or false details to discredit her. You have successfully built a fortress of denial around yourself, complete with a moat of excuses and drawbridge of deflection.

I'll also have you know that you are sliding down a very slippery slope by feeding into rape culture, which normalizes and excuses sexual aggression, and protects rapists from accountability. Please, do better.

basilico:

I trust my instincts.

basilico:


I trust my instincts. The judge was a senior partner at the same lawfirm she was a shining star, working smart to okease her bosses.
The script in law and irde was in 2012. 2019-7 = 2012.
She is a victim of rape, so her cat is called vagina, her dog is Tits, she lives in s dabin where the trees she paintef blue, she dyed her dog pink, she met Trump and within minutes he is offering to buy her lingerie. They go to the dressing room where she is fingered and penetrated. The jury finds she was not penetrated. Juries in a place that voted Biden by over 3/4 right if I'm .right..
I think she wanted to write a love story with Donald trump relative.
More will be coming out. I'll revisit this

Trust me Noone has ever proven me wrong here. You will be the first.
Her buddies are Trump haters.
According to nationalpulse and other media, Reid Hoffman is paying her lawyers.

basilico:


I trust my instincts.

bemeruca:
Seems like all the casualties were Black Americans.

IjeBos:


Ur a sick fux.
As if you actually care about these lives.
Everything is politics and games in your servitude to Trump.

bemeruca:


You are the one who brought up politics. You didn't pay any respect to the men and women in arms way for our freedom and security instead, you attack those who acknowledge their service after they pay the ultimate price.

bemeruca:
Seems like all the casualties were Black Americans.

IjeBos:


Who's freedom and security? Lol. This fuxing loser thinks he's an American. See Mental illness.
Next week you'll be back to trashing America and palling around with Slyfoxx as he talks about killing all Americans.
You are a deeply deeply broken person.
You hate the thing you are, a black person and idolize(well today) the thing you aren't, an American.

Get help Mr. "I can't stop myself from talking about Homosexuality".

bemeruca:


RIP to the fallen heroes Protecting Us in the United States and elsewhere. I know you are pained, stay pained because it feels like the dik of that white guy that bought you a meal for your ass.
stay gay and be useless.
Others are paying respect, you are online being a dik. 43+ remain stupid at your age.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iyf0_6UB_U

bemeruca:

I know you are pained, stay pained because it feels like the dik of that white guy that bought you a meal for your ass.

bemeruca:

Sly do the screwing of girls because he has the deek...

bemeruca:

Slyfoxx is a better person than you will ever be.
He is not a beta male like you. And he does the screwing.

IjeBos:


This guy really broke himself. The US soldiers aren't protect you. Lol. You are not American!


Straight people don't write the posts above. The graphicness of it sounds like something that's constantly on your mind. Like a video you play in a loop in your head.

IjeBos:


This guy really broke himself. The US soldiers aren't protect you. Lol. You are not American!


Straight people don't write the posts above. The graphicness of it sounds like something that's constantly on your mind. Like a video you play in a loop in your head.

And throw in these posts. lol. What straight guy writes stuff like this?

bemeruca:


Sly do the screwing of girls because he has the deek... you on the other hand get screwed by other guys. Yes, you are dead, you are gay!

bemeruca:

No family.
mr. underachiever remain a fool

IjeBos:


Yes, let me use you as a role model. I wonder how much effort it takes to have 4 children with a woman who isn't your wife, not live with them and not support them? Let's clap for you, you couldn't work a condom 4 times. Quite the family you have. Big things. The things some guys think are accomplishments is beyond me. There was a time where you'd get disowned for that "achievement".
btw how's that Uber going?

I hail thee Mr. High Achiever.
You're a fuxing joke.

bemeruca:


Naa don't use me as a role model, you are too dumb to reproduce. Get to 50 years and still come on Nairaland talking about your ex and your imaginary girlfriend in naija. Stay like this. We don't need IjeBos 2.0 😂😂

43+ and nothing to show. No achievements. Your occasional coke you drink in a pub that's all you have and you take tour time to document the special moment. 😂

bemeruca:
IjeBos Your father cannot afford to be in the United States abi? He don run go live for one village for Biafra. Your time is coming too 😂