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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by LordReed(m): 12:08pm On May 01
bemeruca:


are you even reading his post or you are just poised to respond and disagree?

basilico said Hunter would get a favourable judge as he always does yet he is mentioning Weiss who is not a judge and whose plea deal was rejected by a judge. So the question returns to you do you even know what the discussion is about?

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by LordReed(m): 12:10pm On May 01
basilico:


A judge was favorable to Hunter in a case that has not been held. Time Traveller?

Dumdum you were the one who brought up a plea deal that WAS REJECTED BY A JUDGE as an example.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 12:22pm On May 01
LordReed:


basilico said Hunter would get a favourable judge as he always does yet he is mentioning Weiss who is not a judge and whose plea deal was rejected by a judge. So the question returns to you do you even know what the discussion is about?

bas never said Weiss is a judge.
I know of the sweetheart deal. I already discussed the surprise hunter and his team along with the media and got from a judge they thought would go along with the deal

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 12:31pm On May 01
LordReed:


Dumdum you were the one who brought up a plea deal that WAS REJECTED BY A JUDGE as an example.

Actually, you were the one who brought up the plea deal

basilico:


Hunter will get a favourable judge who will have determined that he was defamed long before suit begins.
Likely to get a few hundred million dollars from the suit because Hunter got high.
Thats justice for you in America.

the bold from Basilico is a speculation and I can assume it is based on the previous judgments against Trump and others like Flynn etc.. they know where they will go to try and tilt the outcome to their favor. He can make such speculations.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 1:58pm On May 01
This is why Florida is the Best City in this Country.


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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 2:03pm On May 01
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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 2:19pm On May 01
bemeruca:


Actually, you were the one who brought up the plea deal



the bold from Basilico is a speculation and I can assume it is based on the previous judgments against Trump and others like Flynn etc.. they know where they will go to try and tilt the outcome to their favor. He can make such speculations.

I used the word likely because many recent cases always go against Trump allies.
Rudy Giuliani. Bankrupted by two women caught on video counting. votes after everyone else was sent home.
Kudlow. Jailed for 4 months for refusing to appear before J6 committee.His appeal is on the court roster , so he will have served sentence before he gets acquitted.
Hunter. Plea deal scuttled by judge.
Trump. Fined for defamation and also by judge Engoron.
Fox . Paid Dominion out of court.
Alex Jones. Excessively fined and bankrupted by victims who will never get paid
Trump allies, most are indicted for not accepting election results.
J6ers. Many languish in jail over a riot .
And many other allies bludgeoned by lawfare.
Justice is two sided.
Lets see which jurisdiction Hunter will file suit. Most likely one that went for Biden and before a judge appointed by Obama or Clinton.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 2:32pm On May 01
basilico:


Now it's quite clear. GSA packed a pallet of documents an stored them in their premises. They then shipped them to Mar a Lago. These are the ones that had classified markings? Most likely. Before shipping them GSA would have inspected them. No they simply sent them. To set up Trump on classified doc charges.
Judge Cannon unredacted the docs Jackboot wanted sealed.

https://pjmedia.com/matt-margolis/2024/04/28/new-bombshell-evidence-emerges-was-trump-set-up-in-classified-docs-saga-n4928572

Im surprided Main Stream Media is broadcasting this 24 hours nonstop.. Top news on every channel.


Finally everything now makes sense in this document case.
Trump in 2022 filed suit against Hillary and her FBI/deep state enablers.
108 page suit in link below. Very detailed with evidence that FBI obviously classified. I think this evidence is what they really wanted in their Mar a Lago raid.

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.610157/gov.uscourts.flsd.610157.1.0.pdf

They could not stand Trump with that insider detailed knowledge of how he was framed in 2016 onwards. Very lucid details. All those dozens of people whose crimes are detailed are today walking free, some in high positions like Jake Sullivan.Others are legal analysts in media houses. Others are in various prosecution teams in the ongoing Trump inquisition.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by LordReed(m): 3:07pm On May 01
bemeruca:


Actually, you were the one who brought up the plea deal



the bold from Basilico is a speculation and I can assume it is based on the previous judgments against Trump and others like Flynn etc.. they know where they will go to try and tilt the outcome to their favor. He can make such speculations.

Where did I bring up the plea deal, when it was basilico who mentioned it?

He can make speculations based on what, fantasy?
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by LordReed(m): 3:11pm On May 01
bemeruca:


bas never said Weiss is a judge.
I know of the sweetheart deal. I already discussed the surprise hunter and his team along with the media and got from a judge they thought would go along with the deal

You don't seem to get it. He said Hunter will get a favourable judge because he always gets favourable judges so why the hell is he mentioning Weiss? He should mention the favourable judge Hunter has gotten so far.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ijebosb: 3:24pm On May 01
wirinet:
Things are about to rev up for MAGA cult and it's megaphone - Foxnews, Hunter Biden is preparing to sue Foxnews for defamation. MAGA is about to go into overdrive with their propaganda and conspiracy theories, and not forgetting fake outrage. They will now be given opportunity to present all their evidence in court or pay another set of millions in damages.

It's going to be a hard case and I'm not sure he'll prevail, but let's see what evidence discovery produces if it gets there. There is a high bar for defamation as he would be considered a public figure and he would have to show actual malice. Fox's recent loss for lies about the election was very rare. And they are probably more cautious about what they document now in texts/email.

I think its true purpose is to put Fox News on notice, like a brush back pitch. So, in the future they are going to have to be careful about the lies stories they tell about him. If they continue, now they know it's false it'll rise to "actual malice". It's already working as they pulled down the "Mock Trial" miniseries they made about him.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/30/politics/hunter-biden-fox-nation-series-removed/index.html

I do wish more Dems would do this. Fox News and co. lie with impunity and it's not good for US Democracy. Hillary Clinton should go after Pecker for defamation as he's already admitted, during Trump's current trial, that he made up the stories to help Trump.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 3:26pm On May 01
LordReed:


You don't seem to get it. He said Hunter will get a favourable judge because he always gets favourable judges so why the hell is he mentioning Weiss? He should mention the favourable judge Hunter has gotten so far.

Stop putting words in his mouth. He did not use the word always. I think you should comprehend what he says, that way you will understand why basilico mentioned Weiss.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by wirinet(m): 3:41pm On May 01
Trump is threatening violence again if he looses the November 2024 elections. When he was asked whether he expects political violence after the elections, he responded that it depends on the fairness of the elections. Now, who determines the fairness of an election?

I think the American political and justice system has bent over too much to accommodate the excesses of Trump. He is too embolden that he feels he is untouchable. The whole of the US political and justice system seems afraid of him, that he can practically get away with murder.

The US will have to confront the Trump menace headlong once and for all, and damn the threats and intimidation of his MAGA cult movement.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 3:59pm On May 01
wirinet:
Trump is threatening violence again if he looses the November 2024 elections. When he was asked whether he expects political violence after the elections, he responded that it depends on the fairness of the elections. Now, who determines the fairness of an election?

I think the American political and justice system has bent over too much to accommodate the excesses of Trump. He is too embolden that he feels he is untouchable. The whole of the US political and justice system seems afraid of him, that he can practically get away with murder.

The US will have to confront the Trump menace headlong once and for all, and damn the threats and intimidation of his MAGA cult movement.

Its your spin

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by LordReed(m): 4:32pm On May 01
bemeruca:


Stop putting words in his mouth. He did not use the word always. I think you should comprehend what he says, that way you will understand why basilico mentioned Weiss.

Really? "That's justice for you in America" was implying what? That all former drug addicts get favourable judges?

You tell me what Weiss has got to do with Hunter getting a favourable judge in a likely suit against Fox.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by LordReed(m): 4:37pm On May 01
wirinet:
Trump is threatening violence again if he looses the November 2024 elections. When he was asked whether he expects political violence after the elections, he responded that it depends on the fairness of the elections. Now, who determines the fairness of an election?

I think the American political and justice system has bent over too much to accommodate the excesses of Trump. He is too embolden that he feels he is untouchable. The whole of the US political and justice system seems afraid of him, that he can practically get away with murder.

The US will have to confront the Trump menace headlong once and for all, and damn the threats and intimidation of his MAGA cult movement.

The problem with most governmental systems is they rely on the implicit honour of the people involved they have no way of calculating. Trump has no honor so the system is almost hamstrung by his faithless maneuvers. Plus his status as a wealthy man who won't hesitate to push his legal options makes it look like he is untouchable.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 5:39pm On May 01
LordReed:


Really? "That's justice for you in America" was implying what? That all former drug addicts get favourable judges?

You tell me what Weiss has got to do with Hunter getting a favourable judge in a likely suit against Fox.

Weiss can wear a disguise and become the judge
Or he can change form and be tje judge.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by LordReed(m): 5:58pm On May 01
basilico:


Weiss can wear a disguise and become the judge
Or he can change form and be tje judge.

Your attempt to deflect achieves nothing.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 6:51pm On May 01
LordReed:


Your attempt to deflect achieves nothing.

This was not granted.

COMPLAINT FOR DAMAGES AND DEMAND FOR TRIAL BY JURY

The Plaintiff, Donald J. Trump, by and through his undersigned counsel, hereby serves his
suit against the Defendants, Hillary R. Clinton, HFACC, Inc., the Democratic National Committee,
DNC Services Corporation, Perkins Coie, LLC, Michael Sussmann, Marc Elias, Debbie
Wasserman Schultz, Charles Halliday Dolan, Jr., Jake Sullivan, John Podesta, Robert E. Mook,hillipe Reines, Fusion GPS, Glenn Simpson, Peter Fritsch, Nellie Ohr, Bruce Ohr, Orbis Business
Intelligence, Ltd., Christopher Steele, Igor Danchenko, Neustar, Inc., Rodney Joffe, James Comey,
Peter Strzok, Lisa Page, Kevin Clinesmith, Andrew McCabe, John Does 1 through 10
.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by LordReed(m): 6:59pm On May 01
basilico:


This was not granted.

COMPLAINT FOR DAMAGES AND DEMAND FOR TRIAL BY JURY

The Plaintiff, Donald J. Trump, by and through his undersigned counsel, hereby serves his
suit against the Defendants, Hillary R. Clinton, HFACC, Inc., the Democratic National Committee,
DNC Services Corporation, Perkins Coie, LLC, Michael Sussmann, Marc Elias, Debbie
Wasserman Schultz, Charles Halliday Dolan, Jr., Jake Sullivan, John Podesta, Robert E. Mook,hillipe Reines, Fusion GPS, Glenn Simpson, Peter Fritsch, Nellie Ohr, Bruce Ohr, Orbis Business
Intelligence, Ltd., Christopher Steele, Igor Danchenko, Neustar, Inc., Rodney Joffe, James Comey,
Peter Strzok, Lisa Page, Kevin Clinesmith, Andrew McCabe, John Does 1 through 10
.

What has this got to do with Hunter Biden? As usual, nothing.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Nastymods: 7:06pm On May 01
I ah bored.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 7:07pm On May 01
LordReed:


What has this got to do with Hunte[sub][/sub]r Biden? As usual, nothing.

Hunter walks, Hunter sues and wins against Fox.
He be just a democrat, the ones I listed will never be indicted.

Elders say , if you a take a chicken to the market and untie it, you need to kick it so that the chicken knows it's now free to move.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by LordReed(m): 7:08pm On May 01
basilico:


Hunter walks, Hunter sues and wins against Fox.
He be just a democrat, the ones I listed will never be indicted.

Elders say , if you a take a chicken to the market and untie it, you need to kick it so that the chicken knows it's now free to move.

Gibberish.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 7:16pm On May 01
LordReed:


Really? "That's justice for you in America" was implying what? That all former drug addicts get favourable judges?

You tell me what Weiss has got to do with Hunter getting a favourable judge in a likely suit against Fox.


The expression you put in quotation marks is often sarcasm used to comment on what is perceived as a ojoro or magu-magu situation. It can reflect a cynical view where the outcome is seen as typical or expected, despite being unfair.

So you are putting words in Basilico's mouth and you haven't been following the pattern of American justice system.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by LordReed(m): 7:35pm On May 01
bemeruca:



The expression you put in bold is often sarcasm used to comment on what is perceived as a ojoro or magu-magu situation. It can reflect a cynical view where the outcome is seen as typical or expected, despite being unfair.

So you are putting words in Basilico's mouth and you haven't been following the pattern of American justice system.

Ok tell me the ojoro the Hunter Biden has done in the past that makes you think he will get a favourable judge now.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 8:01pm On May 01
LordReed:


Ok tell me the ojoro the Hunter Biden has done in the past that makes you think he will get a favourable judge now.

You are not understanding. It's the justice system n the court. It started with the Russian collusion which the media, fbi, dnc and the courts partook in.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by LordReed(m): 8:32pm On May 01
bemeruca:


You are not understanding. It's the justice system n the court. It started with the Russian collusion which the media, fbi, dnc and the courts partook in.

So why didn't this same justice system favour him in his other cases?

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 8:36pm On May 01
LordReed:


So why did this same justice system favour him in his other cases?

The ones your side are actively trying to break down? The attack on judges who does not cowtow to the bidden of the DNC? Iean schumar was out there threatening them. Now see how they are using the justice system to keep Trump ftom campaigning. Bragg manufacturing crime and court case against trump because of a porn star.

Be sincere with yourself
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by LordReed(m): 8:44pm On May 01
bemeruca:


The ones your side are actively trying to break down? The attack on judges who does not cowtow to the bidden of the DNC? Iean schumar was out there threatening them. Now see how they are using the justice system to keep Trump ftom campaigning. Bragg manufacturing crime and court case against trump because of a porn star.

Be sincere with yourself

Stop deflecting and tell me why Hunter Biden is not favoured by the system you said will favour him.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 9:05pm On May 01
LordReed:


Stop deflecting and tell me why Hunter Biden is not favoured by the system you said will favour him.

Who is deflecting? Wasn't not the justice system that was hiding is IRS issues and try to give him that sweetheart deal? Are they not the system?

Did the system not surprise his laptop? Wasn't there a letter from a security agency claiming the laptop was Russian propaganda? Is that not the system?
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by LordReed(m): 9:51pm On May 01
bemeruca:


Who is deflecting? Wasn't not the justice system that was hiding is IRS issues and try to give him that sweetheart deal? Are they not the system?

Did the system not surprise his laptop? Wasn't there a letter from a security agency claiming the laptop was Russian propaganda? Is that not the system?


You want to deflect to Trump, stick to the topic.

Yet the system has indicted him for 2 separate matters plus a JUDGE of the same system rejected the deal so your narrative falls flat.

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