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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 6:07pm On May 21
bemeruca:


So tell us where Trump is charged for what he ordered


Here's a summary of the charges Trump is facing in Washington, D.C. for attempts to overturn the results of the 2020 election:

One count of conspiracy to defraud the United States applies to Trump's repeated and widespread efforts to spread false claims about the November 2020 election while knowing they were not true and for allegedly attempting to illegally discount legitimate votes all with the goal of overturning the 2020 election, prosecutors claim in the indictment.

One count of conspiracy to obstruct an official proceeding was brought due to the alleged organized planning by Trump and his allies to disrupt the electoral vote's certification in January 2021.

One count of obstruction of and attempt to obstruct an official proceeding is tied to Trump and his co-conspirators' alleged efforts after the November 2020 election until Jan. 7, 2021, to block the official certification proceeding in Congress.

One count of conspiracy against rights refers to Trump and his co-conspirators alleged attempts to "oppress, threaten and intimidate" people in their right to vote in an election.

Read the full indictment, though I know you'd not comprehend any of it.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 6:13pm On May 21
wirinet:

You guys just talk rubbish without even caring about think of how senseless your claim is.
Who has the authority to reject a request by the president to deploy National Guard in the US? Where is the evidence Trump made such a request, or can Trump make a request just by thinking about it like he claim he can do with classification of documents?

You are a bloody liar.
Ornato gave sworn testimony to J6 committee, the transcript of which is here .J6 ignored his testimony in their report.
I have posted a letter from DC mayor rejecting national guard previously.

You and Budaatum are not lying at all. Sorry you two dont know what you are saying, so I can excuse your ignorance.
Ignoramus.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 6:13pm On May 21
budaatum:


Dump never made any request! And even if he had made a request before he ordered an insurrection, his request should still have been rejected because no one knew he had an insurrection planned.

Damn dude! If anyone knew he had planned an insurrection, they would have ordered the National Guard themselves, for their own protection!
budaatum:


Here's a summary of the charges Trump is facing in Washington, D.C. for attempts to overturn the results of the 2020 election:

One count of conspiracy to defraud the United States applies to Trump's repeated and widespread efforts to spread false claims about the November 2020 election while knowing they were not true and for allegedly attempting to illegally discount legitimate votes all with the goal of overturning the 2020 election, prosecutors claim in the indictment.

One count of conspiracy to obstruct an official proceeding was brought due to the alleged organized planning by Trump and his allies to disrupt the electoral vote's certification in January 2021.

One count of obstruction of and attempt to obstruct an official proceeding is tied to Trump and his co-conspirators' alleged efforts after the November 2020 election until Jan. 7, 2021, to block the official certification proceeding in Congress.

One count of conspiracy against rights refers to Trump and his co-conspirators alleged attempts to "oppress, threaten and intimidate" people in their right to vote in an election.

Read the full indictment, though I know you'd not comprehend any of it.

in other words, you could not prove your lie
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 6:17pm On May 21
bemeruca:


in other words, you could not prove your lie

budaatum:
Read the full indictment, though I know you'd not comprehend any of it.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 6:28pm On May 21
budaatum:


Here's a summary of the charges Trump is facing in Washington, D.C. for attempts to overturn the results of the 2020 election:

One count of conspiracy to defraud the United States applies to Trump's repeated and widespread efforts to spread false claims about the November 2020 election while knowing they were not true and for allegedly attempting to illegally discount legitimate votes all with the goal of overturning the 2020 election, prosecutors claim in the indictment.

One count of conspiracy to obstruct an official proceeding was brought due to the alleged organized planning by Trump and his allies to disrupt the electoral vote's certification in January 2021.

One count of obstruction of and attempt to obstruct an official proceeding is tied to Trump and his co-conspirators' alleged efforts after the November 2020 election until Jan. 7, 2021, to block the official certification proceeding in Congress.

One count of conspiracy against rights refers to Trump and his co-conspirators alleged attempts to "oppress, threaten and intimidate" people in their right to vote in an election.

Read the full indictment, though I know you'd not comprehend any of it.

Conspiracy to obstruct official proceeding is under review by SCOTUS because it was about destroying evidence in the Enron case only for DOJ to reinterpret.
Jack Smith legality as Special Counsel is also under challenge filed @SCOTUS.
There will gnashing of teeth and wailing when all cases are tossed out.
No apparent crimes at all, all are the furthest interpretation of laws to fit a crime.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 6:33pm On May 21
basilico:


Conspiracy to obstruct official proceeding is under review by SCOTUS ....

Of course it would be.

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 6:34pm On May 21
budaatum:



I challenge anyone to read what he is asking me to read if you can find where trump was charged with Insurrection or Sedition

Conspiracy to defraud the United States
Conspiracy to obstruct an official proceeding
Obstruction of and attempt to obstruct an official proceeding
Conspiracy against rights


None of these are remotely close to what budaatum is alleging.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 6:39pm On May 21

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 6:47pm On May 21
budaatum:
You typical dunce.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-mitch-mcconnell-2024-vote-b2536088.html


Where is trump charged with the violent insurrection he lead?
Why are they talking about hush money when they have evidence of him leading violent insurrection.

It's a simple question for you. I can post same person saying Biden do this and that but you will disregard it.

Also, notice the violent insurrection is in a single quote. What does that mean? Irony or skepticism?

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ijebosb: 6:48pm On May 21
wirinet:

You guys just talk rubbish without even caring about think of how senseless your claim is.
Who has the authority to reject a request by the president to deploy National Guard in the US? Where is the evidence Trump made such a request, or can Trump make a request just by thinking about it like he claim he can do with classification of documents?

And given DC's special status, the only person who can deploy the DC National Guard is the President. And during Jan. 6th, because Mayor Bowser couldn't deploy DC's guard, she called Maryland Gov. Hogan for help, to deploy Maryland's national guard to DC. But his guard was delayed for hours as they couldn't enter DC without authorization from the Department of Defense and they couldn't get authorization.

There is no point arguing anything of substance with Bemeruca an Basilico. They are trolls. Their job is to sit here day and night and misinform.
So, most of what they post is Rubbish.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 7:15pm On May 21
budaatum:
You typical dunce.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-mitch-mcconnell-2024-vote-b2536088.html


That is someone saying. Not a single person has been charged with insurrection..Not a single soul, a living being regarding Jan 6.
Quoting Mitch McConnell does not make it true.
Its like me Ijebosb is intelligent (while everyone knows he is a doddering fool ) makes it true.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 7:24pm On May 21
ijebosb:


And given DC's special status, the only person who can deploy the DC National Guard is the President. And during Jan. 6th, because Mayor Bowser couldn't deploy DC's guard, she called Maryland Gov. Hogan for help, to deploy Maryland's national guard to DC. But his guard was delayed for hours as they couldn't enter DC without authorization from the Department of Defense and they couldn't get authorization.

There is no point arguing anything of substance with Bemeruca an Basilico. They are trolls. Their job is to sit here day and night and misinform.
So, most of what they post is Rubbish.

Fool Oh fool. I already did justice to this matter.
You can take this to the bank.This is the gospel truth.

https://www.nairaland.com/4508641/american-politics-thread-2024-elections/4052#128863463
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ijebosb: 7:30pm On May 21
basilico:


Fool Oh fool. I already did justice to this matter.
You can take this to the bank.
https://www.nairaland.com/4508641/american-politics-thread-2024-elections/4052#128863463

This guy sitting on his dusty phone in his village said he did Justice to this matter. Lol
Who dashed you authority on anything?

My guy take your Meds and shut up or don't and keep writing your gibberish conspiracies.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 7:35pm On May 21
budaatum:


Of course it would be.


How sbout that judge who can't define what s woman is.
Utterly conflicted. She was part of a 3 Obama appelate bench that ruled Trump must handover privelleged docs to J6 sham committee , inherently implying he led a violent onslaught.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 7:39pm On May 21
basilico:


How sbout .......

The typical no response.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 7:59pm On May 21
budaatum:


The typical no response.


You and your ilk are after Alito so he recuses himself in tje immunity case while Ketanji destroyed Trump immunity indirectly while an appelate judge..
Some things are too hard for you to
comprehend.
Alito wife was called a cunt by a neighbor so she flew flag upside down in response.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 8:08pm On May 21
ijebosb:


This guy sitting on his dusty phone in his village said he did Justice to this matter. Lol
Who dashed you authority on anything?

My guy take your Meds and shut up or don't and keep writing your gibberish conspiracies.

Yes. My details in that post are factual. Any opinion deviating from that piece is totally Wrong.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 8:44pm On May 21
Cori bush wants us to remember a violent criminal

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 8:58pm On May 21
basilico:



You and your ilk are after Alito so he recuses himself in tje immunity case while Ketanji destroyed Trump immunity indirectly while an appelate judge..
Some things are too hard for you to
comprehend.
Alito wife was called a cunt by a neighbor so she flew flag upside down in response.

The media is making a scandal out of Alito's decision to sell his Anheuser-Busch stock because of the boycott grin grin this is what they tried to do with Clarence Thomas

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 9:06pm On May 21
this is one of the funniest interview you will see on TV. This Diddy shit is cucu

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2arTRzb6tw

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by armyofone(m): 11:07pm On May 21
Very shameful act!

Runny with towel around your waist like a clown just to beat a woman...some human beings! Too much Ciroc!

See how desperation to beat a woman made him ran marathon! Ask him to run for charity he wouldn't.

🙈

bemeruca:
this is one of the funny interview you will see on TV. This Diddy shit is cucu

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2arTRzb6tw
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 12:16am On May 22
armyofone:
Very shameful act!

Runny with towel around your waist like a clown just to beat a woman...some human beings! Too much Ciroc!

See how desperation to beat a woman made him ran marathon! Ask him to run for charity he wouldn't.

🙈


it is a shameful act but do you think the victim here does not know about this behavior or the people he may have killed or threatened to kill?
i don't feel bad for her. Both of them are shameful POS.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 12:41am On May 22
Biden's Pentagon. This is a shocking report

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkM-Eyw4o-w

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 3:14am On May 22
Judge Cannon unseals documents relating to Mar a Lago raid.
FBi was authorized to use deadly force incase it was necessary against anyone including Secret Service. They were to go room to room ,had lock pickers and bolt cutters , which they did taking pictures of Melanie and Barron's bedroom. Despicable. Story was they went rifling through and sniffing her underwear such that she had to buy everything anew.
Did they want to shoot Trump in "self defence"? .
How desperate are they to stop Trump? They had location of the nearest trauma hospital incase there were "injuries".
Rational people should be asking themselves, why is HE such a threat to them? Orange man bad.

https://www.declassified.live/p/fbi-authorized-use-of-deadly-force?utm_source=profile&utm_medium=reader2

Judge Cannon looks set to expose the underhand tactics by jackboot and Biden. I think its a foregone conclusion this trial will never take place in her courtroom. Why did jackboot want details like these sealed from Trump and public? Because it reveals theur criminal plans .

NB; Julie Kelly is reporting. She is a mom who loves cooking so she should not be believed according to our resident idiot Ijebosb. She has included evidence but but she is a conspiracy theorist. Fool.Bloidy stinking fool.

This should be a national Morning Joe and colleagues will be covering this wall to walll.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ijebosb: 3:32am On May 22
basilico:
Judge Cannon unseals documents relating to Mar a Lago raid.
FBi was authorized to use deadly force incase it was necessary against anyone including Secret Service. They were to go room to room ,had lock oickers an bolt cutters , which they did taking pictures of Melanie and Barron's bedroom. Despicable. Story was they went rifling through sniffing her underwear such that she had to buy everything anew.
Did they want to shoot Trump in "sekf defence"? .
How desperate are they to stop Trump?
Rational people should be asking themselves, why is HE such a threat to them?

https://www.declassified.live/p/fbi-authorized-use-of-deadly-force?utm_source=profile&utm_medium=reader2

Judge Cannon looks set to expose the underhand tactics by jackboot snd Biden. I think its a foregone conclusion this trial will never take place in her courtroom.

Julie Kelly is reporting. She is a mom who loves cooking so she should be believed according yo our resident idiot Ijebosb. She has included evidence .

This should be a national outrage.

The guy who doesn't live in the US, who gets his propaganda from tweets from a Food writer, is proving again he doesn't have the slightest clue how anything works in the US.

It was standard for any search warrant as use of deadly force delinitated by protocol is always permitted in search warrants. If it weren't someone with a machine gun could just kill all the officers and they would have to sit back and watch as they wouldn't be allowed to fire back (cops shoot to stop the attacker or kill, so firing back or self defense would be the use of deadly force). It's asinine this is even a discussion point. And par for the course for the stupid posters on this thread and the idiots of MAGA.

And when you say "national" outrage, you must mean Nigeria, as you don't live in the US. God, don't you have better things to do in your village than trolling through US news and constantly getting fooled by right wing propaganda?

https://www.axios.com/2024/05/22/trump-fbi-mar-a-lago-search-deadly-force

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ijebosb: 3:37am On May 22
This whole deadly force mirage seems to be meant to be a distraction from this news that was unsealed by Judge Cannon. Trump still had classified documents in his bedroom 4 months after the FBI searched his home. Also, a staffer for his campaign PAC scanned classified documents and stored them on the PAC computer in 2021.

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 3:42am On May 22
ijebosb:


The guy who doesn't live in the US, who gets his propaganda from tweets from a Food writer, is proving again he doesn't have the slightest clue how anything works in the US.

It was standard for any search warrant as use of deadly force delinitated by protocol is always permitted in search warrants. If it weren't someone with a machine gun could just kill all the officers and they would have to sit back and watch as they wouldn't be allowed to fire back (cops shoot to stop the attacker or kill, so firing back or self defense would be the use of deadly force). It's asinine this is even a discussion point. And par for the course for the stupid posters on this thread and the idiots of MAGA.

And when you say "national" outrage, you must mean Nigeria, as you don't live in the US.


https://www.axios.com/2024/05/22/trump-fbi-mar-a-lago-search-deadly-force


Bleep you.
Those are their talking points. They leaked photos of documents on the floor whivh wasn't true, documents were in filing cabinets.
He was already cooperating with them and they had visited the premises , adviced to use double locks.
Why did jack seal this from the defense if that's standard practice?
Again it was so urgent they got a warrant on a Friday then went to raid on Monday.
This is how you get fooled , like with vaccines you wont catch covid.
Bloody useless fool spreading propaganda. The deep state knows a lot of low IQ fools like you will swallow any lie.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ijebosb: 3:48am On May 22
basilico:


Bleep you.
Those are their talking points. They leaked photos of documents on the floor whivh wasn't true, documents were in filing cabinets.
He was already cooperating with them and they had visited the premises , adviced to use double locks.
Why did jack seal this from the defense if that's standard practice?
Again it was so urgent they got a warrant on a Friday then went to raid on Monday.
This is how you get fooled , like with vaccines you wont catch covid.
Bloody useless fool spreading propaganda. The deep state knows a lot of low IQ fools like you will swallow any lie.

Go troll the sub dark web for more conspiracies you fuxing Nut.

Standard policy. It's even on the Department of Justice website.
https://www.justice.gov/jm/1-16000-department-justice-policy-use-force

Dumb*ss who gets his news from and is repeatedly fooled by a Food Writer. Lol.

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 4:07am On May 22
ijebosb:


Go troll the sub dark web for more conspiracies you fuxing Nut.

Standard policy. It's even on the Department of Justice website.
https://www.justice.gov/jm/1-16000-department-justice-policy-use-force

Dumb*ss who gets his news from and is repeatedly fooled by a Food Writer. Lol.

Standard practice when they already visited there before .
They did the same when went to collect stolen top secret documents from joe Biden home?
Why keep this from Trump.

Digress. You will never amount to anything here. You are just a liberal fool with no mind of his own. You are desperate to set the standard tone on this thread,, never gonna happen.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ijebosb: 4:14am On May 22
basilico:


Standard practice when they already visited there before .
They did the same wyen went to collect stolen top secret documents from joe Biden home?
Why keep this from Trump.

Digress. You will never amount to anything here. You are just a liberal fool with no mind of his own. You are desperate to set the standard tone on this thread,, never gonna happen.

Basilico:
OMG, there is DOJ policy that FBI agents can only shoot people who are trying to kill them or other people. And OMG, the FBI agents were reminded of that policy before Trump's search warrant. OMG, they must have made the policy to get Trump. OMG, Basilico must rage at some bullshit lie about a country I've never stepped foot in that a Food Writer told me. Rage!!

Lol. Do you hear yourself? Take your meds. You sound more and more like a lunatic everyday!

And you seem to not understand what Unsealed/Sealed means. Sealed means it was hidden from the public, not from Trump's attorneys. Lunatic

What part of fuxing standard practice do you not understand?
I'll put up my facts to your raving lunatic conspiracy bullshit anyday. Lol
You a raving lunatic.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 4:25am On May 22
ijebosb:


Basilico:
OMG, there is DOJ policy that FBI agents can only shoot people who are trying to kill them or other people. And OMG, the FBI agents were reminded of that policy before Trump's search warrant. OMG, they must have made the policy to get Trump.

Lol. Do you hear yourself? Take your meds. You sound more and more like a lunatic everyday!

And you seem to not understand what Unsealed/Sealed means. Sealed means it was hidden from the public, not from Trump's attorneys. Lunatic

What part of fuxing standard practice do you not understand?
I'll put up my facts to your raving lunatic conspiracy bullshit anyday. Lol
You a raving lunatic.

What are you trying to justify ? The ex president is not that drug filled teenager hiding in the basement This is s state protected person.
They just showed up suddenly looking for documents they had sent to mar a lago themselves. They were to take every document

They was hoping he would react like ' subject reached dangerously into his back pocket when confronted so agent shoot him'. ?
These fuckers lied he tried to grab the wheel of the 'beast' while seated back left .Only he was in a SUV not the limo did that lie fall apart.

What's the threat if public knows?
What is justice must be seen to be done if public is in the dark.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ijebosb: 4:30am On May 22
basilico:


What are you trying to justify ? The ex president is not that drug filled teenager hiding in the basement This is s state protected person.
They just showed up suddenly looking for documents they had sent to mar a lago themselves. They were to take every document

They was hoping he would react like ' subject reached dangerously into his back pocket when confronted so agent shoot him'. ?
These fuckers lied he tried to grab the wheel of the 'beast' while seated back left .Only he was in a SUV not the limo did that lie fall apart.


FBi agents are armed. It's their job. They had a court approved search warrant. They notified the Secret Service en route. They even decided not to wear their FBI jackets to make it less noticeable. They knew Trump wasn't home. Trump has a video Surveillance system. So, Fux off.

You are a psycho. The amount of nuttery and bullshit that lives in your mind must make day to day life debilitating.

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