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Re: It Is Unnatural To Be Gay, No One Is Born That Way by gregyboy(m): 12:21pm On May 27, 2018 |
jessca048: Hypocrite |
Re: It Is Unnatural To Be Gay, No One Is Born That Way by Outofsync(m): 12:29pm On May 27, 2018 |
mhisbliss:You literally contradict yourself in both quotes |
Re: It Is Unnatural To Be Gay, No One Is Born That Way by plaetton: 12:31pm On May 27, 2018 |
grandstar:Lol. Cognitive dissonance at its best. A lot of people are born with a disposition for diabetes, a hormone deficiency. When was the last time you saw anyone stop being diabetic on their own Will ? A lot people are born left-handed. Considering that left-handedness is also denigrated in the Bible, when was the last time you saw a left handed person converted to right-handedness by sheer will ? Funny thing with you homo religilous is how you make your imaginary god an escape artist. He takes credit for awarding great talents, but goes AWOL when it comes to traits you do not like. Then of course, it makes sense the religious context for your god to hate everything that you hate. You know why ? Because your god was fabricated in the dark and primitive part of your brain. A god is as good or as bad , as crazy or a benign as the mind that fabricated it. 2 Likes |
Re: It Is Unnatural To Be Gay, No One Is Born That Way by Outofsync(m): 12:32pm On May 27, 2018 |
The usual Ignorance in this thread is no longer even alarming. I have resigned myself to the fact that Nigerians are, to be nice, a few shades slight of the very fucking dumb meter and use religion and traditions as excuses to cover up their natural. bigotry. No hating, nope, none. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: It Is Unnatural To Be Gay, No One Is Born That Way by BossLaifay(f): 12:33pm On May 27, 2018 |
BAILMONEY:I don't have to be gay to respect basic human rights. |
Re: It Is Unnatural To Be Gay, No One Is Born That Way by zanga420: 12:33pm On May 27, 2018 |
mhisbliss:this more like it. It's not natural, it's addiction and outcome of weird and paranoid thinking. Today many have the addiction of eating feaces. Many, addiction of sniffing all manner of nonsense. They've grown to be comfortable with it, now promote it and lure many others into it. Homosexuality is a nurtured addiction, it's not natural |
Re: It Is Unnatural To Be Gay, No One Is Born That Way by obinna58(m): 12:34pm On May 27, 2018 |
People like op shows why peace will never have a place in the world, forcefully regulating your opinion/views on others cos that's how you want things to operate, all I can see from op is desperation basically due to religion or natural hating which came as a result of societal views, withholding people's freedom can as restrict yours even without you realizing. Jesus is gay after all |
Re: It Is Unnatural To Be Gay, No One Is Born That Way by MissRaine69(f): 12:35pm On May 27, 2018 |
Depends on how you look at it From a religious perspective which governs pretty much all doctrines in this country then that arguement can be used. Elsewhere it’s not a nurture vs nature argument. Most here are clearly oblivious to how many gay men and women are in Nigeria .....spend sometime in the very expensive hotels in Abuja it’s obvious who is heterosexual who is not. |
Re: It Is Unnatural To Be Gay, No One Is Born That Way by N0favors: 12:38pm On May 27, 2018 |
KillaBeauty:Not sure. why? |
Re: It Is Unnatural To Be Gay, No One Is Born That Way by Boyooosa(m): 12:39pm On May 27, 2018 |
nobilis:Its not a prioritised problem, so don't even think of prolific solution. As simple as everybody should just condemn and discourage it! Don't abhour, don't attach unnecessary sentiments to it. The only thing gej did in his tenure was making gay an illegal act, so we follow that up adequately. Hemp Smoking is a habit and not genetic, just still same as gay. Some pple discovered the fun in smoking weed and sell it to other pple, jest the same way some pple found joy in GLBT and sold it to their slaves. But our society condemns it based on out cultural values and beliefs, we are society and we condemn it just the way we condemn prostitution, we also took a step further by declaring it a crime, so if u can not live with our society's laws and value, pls u can proceed to Yemen, Afghanistan or Iraq. Simfu! |
Re: It Is Unnatural To Be Gay, No One Is Born That Way by BossLaifay(f): 12:39pm On May 27, 2018 |
SoNature:Others should not be blamed for failed up bringing of children. If you raise your child properly, imbibe what you feel are right standards in them and keep them out of 'harms way' then you should not worry about some freak influencing your child. SoNature:Fair enough. By the law in Nigeria it is prohibited. But that's the law. That's not out personal opinion. For me I have absolutely nothing against them. It's their life not mine. I don't appreciate people telling me who to love and how to live my life, why should I do that to others. 1 Like |
Re: It Is Unnatural To Be Gay, No One Is Born That Way by N0favors: 12:40pm On May 27, 2018 |
MissRaine69:No matter what angle you look at it, you'll still arrive at one point; It's Psychological |
Re: It Is Unnatural To Be Gay, No One Is Born That Way by BetaThings: 12:43pm On May 27, 2018 |
Klinee:The NASS made a mistake - 14 years cannot cure homosickness Should really have been death 1 Like |
Re: It Is Unnatural To Be Gay, No One Is Born That Way by Nobody: 12:44pm On May 27, 2018 |
Story sounds like him... I’m getting boxer vibes from that post so... N0favors: |
Re: It Is Unnatural To Be Gay, No One Is Born That Way by BetaThings: 12:46pm On May 27, 2018 |
BossLaifay: So why are people bothered by incest, necrophilia and bestiality? Even the use of codeine Homosickness has health implications A young guy lured into the evil cult now has complications - HIV, has issues with rectal control and cannot get it up for his girl 1 Like |
Re: It Is Unnatural To Be Gay, No One Is Born That Way by pennywys(m): 12:46pm On May 27, 2018 |
jessca048:this dummy doesn't know simple biology. |
Re: It Is Unnatural To Be Gay, No One Is Born That Way by N0favors: 12:48pm On May 27, 2018 |
KillaBeauty:I don't think so. This person types better |
Re: It Is Unnatural To Be Gay, No One Is Born That Way by BetaThings: 12:49pm On May 27, 2018 |
Boyooosa: I have corrected the options All the countries you mentioned are Muslim countries. The penalty for being homosick in Islam is death. And that is the only sensible solution |
Re: It Is Unnatural To Be Gay, No One Is Born That Way by MissRaine69(f): 12:51pm On May 27, 2018 |
N0favors:That’s your view I don’t share it |
Re: It Is Unnatural To Be Gay, No One Is Born That Way by BetaThings: 12:52pm On May 27, 2018 |
obinna58: The people who impede peace are those who present a disease as a natural state Homosickness is an acquired abnormal tendency It is similar to addition to codeine - hard to kick but not congenital 1 Like |
Re: It Is Unnatural To Be Gay, No One Is Born That Way by Nobody: 12:54pm On May 27, 2018 |
You know cork is smarter than what he portrays himself to be. So that’s no excuse. N0favors: |
Re: It Is Unnatural To Be Gay, No One Is Born That Way by BossLaifay(f): 12:57pm On May 27, 2018 |
BetaThings:I am personally not bothered by other peoples personal life. As long as they are not hurting others I see no reason why I should hate on them for their acts. I guess I am really wired differently. No one is ever 'lured' into anything. We all have the capacity to make decisions (except the mentally challenged) and weaker people tend to always blame others for their mistakes and avoid accepting responsibility for their actions. |
Re: It Is Unnatural To Be Gay, No One Is Born That Way by ozoebuka1(m): 1:00pm On May 27, 2018 |
LeHMaR:No one has it in him, it's just that some a forced into it until they started enjoying it... I still maintain that no one is born gay and all gay lovers should know this... Some young boys are being forced, deceived, lured\enticed or bribed into it, that you escaped it doesn't make you a better person, it's just God's grace and luck... When you hear stories of those that are into it you will really pity some of them, but still gayism can never be justified, it's amoral, abnormal and a mental sickness that requires constant counseling. |
Re: It Is Unnatural To Be Gay, No One Is Born That Way by David160(m): 1:00pm On May 27, 2018 |
I have nothing against gay people so long as they stay away from me.... Disgusting people |
Re: It Is Unnatural To Be Gay, No One Is Born That Way by Boyooosa(m): 1:03pm On May 27, 2018 |
BetaThings:You have eyes for good things as ur moniker suggests, very creative coincidence. But I think they should make it as habit if they get there and not as hustle. It will save a lot! |
Re: It Is Unnatural To Be Gay, No One Is Born That Way by SoNature(m): 1:10pm On May 27, 2018 |
BossLaifay: I am afraid you have no valid argument here. Parents are just one out of the number of people that influence kids. In my psychology class, we were taught that two things shape people: genetics and environment. While genetics is just one word, genes, environmental factors are endless: parents, friends, siblings, teachers, peer group, the media, the list is just endless. Even the Bible says that evil communication corrupts good manners. If u claim that it's only parents that shape children's characters, then u are a liar - something that I believe u know too |
Re: It Is Unnatural To Be Gay, No One Is Born That Way by obinna58(m): 1:12pm On May 27, 2018 |
BetaThings: Scientific evidence shows that it's likely from birth, that does not absolutely state that people can't develop the idea of homosexuality either but have you ever wondered what disadvantages it brings to the world or why majority are fighting it so hard 1 Like |
Re: It Is Unnatural To Be Gay, No One Is Born That Way by Nobody: 1:14pm On May 27, 2018 |
Jonathan:I'm no gay, but I don't know if your father is gay though. |
Re: It Is Unnatural To Be Gay, No One Is Born That Way by GrammarNazi1(m): 1:16pm On May 27, 2018 |
gaby:Okay. |
Re: It Is Unnatural To Be Gay, No One Is Born That Way by BossLaifay(f): 1:18pm On May 27, 2018 |
SoNature:I never said only parents are responsible for a child's knowledge. What I implied however is that as a parent you are responsible for what your child comes in contact with. You are also responsible for educating your child about certain issues because they will be face with the external. Just like your basic sex education. As a parent you need to protect your child from getting exposed to sexual content and activity at an early age. However you are also responsible for telling (and showing where necessary) your child what is acceptable and why it is acceptable per your standards. This is the truth whether you accept it or not. So it still boils dow to you, the parent. You cannot blame a homosexual for influencing your child. You need to have a greater influence on your child than others to be considered a successful parent. |
Re: It Is Unnatural To Be Gay, No One Is Born That Way by Klinee: 1:22pm On May 27, 2018 |
nobilis:First of all, I discover that your are very low intense of reading and try to comprehend in between the lines that is reason why you are see grammatical errors in my well constructive comments. I used suicide bombing because the actual feeling he has to commit and blast the bomb, intentionally he don't want to die but the psychological feeling of blast the bomb push him to do so.. Can you suicide bomb if given the opportunity? He is a suicide bomber because his inner feeling is disturbing him and is kind of propelling him to go and blast the bomb. Am comparing gayism and suicide bomber because of their evil agenda are parallel. A suicide bomber may have the innate the innate feeling of suicide bombing but can only reveal as result of interaction with the environment. Am not really of the believe that a suicide bomber has an innate feeling of suicide bombing but based you gays promulgating and propagating ideology of gayism being an innate feeling, we should also accept the fact that suicide bomber has such innate feeling maybe no stupid scientist have try to conduct research on that, just like the stupid unrealistic gays scientist are desperately trying different angles to ascertain their evil agenda but it keeps failing. Have you consider what will make a person to just woke up and start thinking of how to blast a bomb within himself with the knowledge of the fact that he will die? What about armed robbers? who knows fully well he may meet his untimely death as result his mission. Don't you believe that all human behavioural is based on innate feeling of different individuals which manifest as a result there interaction with the environment, then why do we condemn and penalize them? Since we know that all human behaviour is as result innate feeling which you evil gays preach, therefore every human should be allowed to express their feelings. I used all these analysis counter your stupid ideologies not really the fact because I credibly believe that all human behaviour including gayism is psychosocial effect and has nothing to do with gene or nature. The feeling you are having as a human being is as a result of where your senses are fixated at that moment, some maybe thinking of how to mount sexually with the fellow gender or opposite gender, some may be thinking of how to suicide bomb, some may be thinking of how rob or steal, some may be thinking on how to lie sexually with animals. Our mental fixation at that particular moment leads to the action or behavior we displayed to the society. But we can refer heterosexual behavior as natural because it's anatomically design to suit the two opposite sexes which leads to procreation therefore such feeling is consider as natural feeling, any other sexual feeling or act is abnormal and should be outrightly condemn with stiffer punishment. We condemn homosexual(sexual encounter with fellow man or fellow woman), dogsexual(sexual encounter with dog), goatsexual(sexual encounter with goat) because they are evil and can lead to extinction of human race, that's why they are criminalized to curtail the occurrence and reoccurrence of all these barbaric acts and also serve as deterrent to intending ones. Biologically all human are not balance, some are biologically incapacitated: sterile(non ability to reproduce),cripple(non ability to walk) etc these are not their intention rather they are biologically disadvantaged so they have no blame. People are born of male and female copulations but 99.9% our lifetimes is completely without sex with about 0.1%copulating times, therefore nobody should be forced to have sexual encounter rather if you must have sex let be normal to maintain the continuity of human race. Such incidents happened in the Bible, Sodom and Gomorrah where their men find no reason in sleeping with women and their women find no reason sleep with men, God Almighty has no option than to eliminate them all out of the world so as not to infect other cities with their evil act, that will tells you the gravity of these evil called gay. The Bible made it clear that death penalty is the only solution to gayism Am not saying that evil like gays and others will cease to exist but the acceptability of the evil is what is considered here. If an evil is accepted then the possibility of all human beings becoming an evil is there, that's why we need to reject and penalize them. Anybody human being created on this planet earth can be gay depending on his interaction with the immediate environment and his strong or weak resistance toward these evil. So forget about who is gay and who is not gay but let condemn and make a stiffer punishment like death penalty for any offender. Then if I happen to involve myself in any gay activities then I should be sentence to death or if you happen to involve yourself in any gay activities then you should be sentence to death simple, with this I believe the issue of gayism will be curtailed. |
Re: It Is Unnatural To Be Gay, No One Is Born That Way by nobilis: 1:23pm On May 27, 2018 |
Boyooosa: Okay. Let me educate you a little, if you will allow yourself to be open minded on this issue. This is not an issue that we should just sit behind our internet-enabled device and be issuing condemnations anyhow. At least, before you condemn something, try to understand it. So let's examine some facts. Traditionally, before the coming of the colonial masters, there is no culture in Africa that castigated homosexuality. You can check. You can ask questions. Do your research. If your grandfather or great grandfather is alive, you can go and ask him. If there is any person well versed in oral tradition and history in your place, go and ask the person. African pre-colonial communities had this culture of "live and let live". As long as the way you were living your life was not infringing on the rights of another person, as long as it doesn't constitute public displays of things that should be kept private, nobody disturbs you, nobody bothers you. I'm not making this up. You can ask. In pre-colonial African communities, there were men who were known to be effeminate and were known to be girly. In some communities, it was reported that these men were also having sex with fellow men. They were still considered part of the community and not banished. There were women who were known to be masculine and manly. There were also individuals in communities who chose not to get married. These people were active and functional members of the community and they were not ostracized. These are verifiable facts. Ask around. The first laws against homosexuality that came into existence in Africa, came with the coming of the white man. There were no such laws before the white man came. Now, come to think of it. It is only when something is existent that you make a law against it. For example, if you go to a place where they don't know what stealing is, it will be foolish to make any laws there against stealing. Why? Because the people there don't know anything about stealing. So the law you make against stealing will be useless. It's the same thing in this situation. The white man came with the Bible, saw the prevalence of homosexual behaviors in our communities, they saw that that behavior was countered by their bible and then they made laws against it. So that is how how legislations against homosexuality in Africa came about. There was no such laws before the white man. Following up to the question I asked you earlier, since you said it is a societal problem, condemning it and discouraging it will not make it stop. It has been done several times. People have been killed for it. Yet, you can't stop it. Apart from religious statutes, there is nothing again anybody has against homosexuality. Let's assume for the sake of argument that we adhere to the religious principles. We all know that not everybody in Nigeria is either a Christian or a Muslim. So does that mean you will use Christian or Islamic standards to make rules that are binding on everybody? That will be very very wrong and that is why our 1999 constitution is a mess because most of its laws are based on Islamic principles. And this is the particular reason why countries with heterogeneous groups of people, as in the case of Nigeria, should be secular and not religious. You don't make laws with religion as the basis. And if you even choose to hold onto religion. There are several things that religion condemns that people do. There is no legislation in Nigeria against premarital sex. There is no legislation against child marriages. There is no legislation against adultery. There is no legislation against pornography. Yet all these were condemned in the Bible. But yet we celebrate all these things. Do you feel that if you don't condemn all these ones and then just choose to condemn homosexuality that God will be very happy with you? If you see homosexuality as a sin, then even the Bible said that if you a guilty of breaking one part of the law, then you are guilty of breaking all of the law. Homosexuality used to be seen as a mental disorder in the West before. They reported how it led people to depression and how it led people to suicide and all of that. But with time, they began to see a different perspective. They learnt that it only led people to suicide because with all the legislations they had in place against homosexuality, gay people were feeling depressed and hopeless. They felt like outcasts and felt like they couldn't find their place in the world. Gradually, as they phased out those legislations, the rate of suicide and depression among gays reduced. There are studies that show this. You can check it. There are several countries of the world where there is some liberalism towards gay people. Go and check the indices of those countries: economic, health, and so on. Check their indices and you will see that that they are still progressing and their citizens are living better lives than us. Then ask yourself, why is it that it is those countries that are intensely religious and have legislations against homosexuality just because they feel they are doing God a favour, why is it that it is those religious countries that have the poorest citizens in the world and have the poorest standard of living for their citizens. I have tried to reason with you on this issue. I expect you to go through this post with an open mind and do your own research with an open without prejudice against homosexuality. Just for a moment, forget about how much you hate homosexuality and do the researches I suggested. After you have done so, then tell me what you came up with. If you actually do this, it will be a triumph for common sense. But if you choose not do as I suggested, I still won't be surprised because you would be showing the typical Nigerian attitude of I-Know-It-All and that's why we don't progress much. Shalom. |
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