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Re: Isnt This A Ridiculous Teaching In Christianity? by IamPlato(m): 1:11pm On May 29, 2018
Cadec007:
I heard too but have you made research to find out if its true?
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I Have Not Had Time. The Only Thing I Noticed Is That They Used Jehovah in Place Of God... I Havent Checked Deeply

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Re: Isnt This A Ridiculous Teaching In Christianity? by Cadec007(m): 1:17pm On May 29, 2018
IamPlato:
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I Have Not Had Time. The Only Thing I Noticed Is That They Used Jehovah in Place Of God... I Havent Checked Deeply
well I have and from what I figured ur point is the main fuss about the whole adulterated saga -the name Jehovah- but hey y do other religious organization find it crazy to use God's name in the translated copies of the bible esp. When it was there in the original manuscript
Re: Isnt This A Ridiculous Teaching In Christianity? by IamPlato(m): 1:21pm On May 29, 2018
Cadec007:
well I have and from what I figured ur point is the main fuss about the whole adulterated saga -the name Jehovah- but hey y do other religious organization find it crazy to use God's name in the translated copies of the bible esp. When it was there in the original manuscript
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There Must Be A Reason Why They Use The Name Jehovah

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Re: Isnt This A Ridiculous Teaching In Christianity? by Cadec007(m): 1:25pm On May 29, 2018
IamPlato:
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There Must Be A Reason Why They Use The Name Jehovah
what could be the reason behind using ones real name?
Re: Isnt This A Ridiculous Teaching In Christianity? by IamPlato(m): 1:31pm On May 29, 2018
Cadec007:
what could be the reason behind using ones real name?
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I Do not Know. But There Is Alot Of Controversy Behind The JW Ministry

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Re: Isnt This A Ridiculous Teaching In Christianity? by Cadec007(m): 1:33pm On May 29, 2018
IamPlato:
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I Do not Know. But There Is Alot Of Controversy Behind The JW Ministry
yeah a d*mn lot!!!!!!
Re: Isnt This A Ridiculous Teaching In Christianity? by God2man(m): 2:04pm On May 29, 2018
Who told you that the killer will make heaven?

Who told you that the believer that refused to forgive will go to hell?

Your answers are not confirmed because you are not God.

Leave the rest for God to Judge.
Re: Isnt This A Ridiculous Teaching In Christianity? by Nobody: 2:19pm On May 29, 2018
IamPlato:
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The Point You Mentioned Is Another Big Issue, considering how The Bible Stresses On Lifestyle

It isn't really a big issue.. Bible teaches us we must be all round trullly upright so that our lives can be an example to those we preach to....
Re: Isnt This A Ridiculous Teaching In Christianity? by IamPlato(m): 10:38pm On May 29, 2018
God2man:
Who told you that the killer will make heaven?

Who told you that the believer that refused to forgive will go to hell?

Your answers are not confirmed because you are not God.

Leave the rest for God to Judge.

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I Spoke Based On What The Church Teaches its Members
Re: Isnt This A Ridiculous Teaching In Christianity? by IamPlato(m): 10:42pm On May 29, 2018
wildimagination:


It isn't really a big issue.. Bible teaches us we must be all round trullly upright so that our lives can be an example to those we preach to....
But there are some pple struggling with sin..genuinely in their heart they wanna serve God...
It's hypocrisy God hates...u call it self a pastor, no repentant heart, fuccking choir mistress and deacons wife..stealing church money....
not even acting out of love in any way...no single shred of remorse...that one is not struggling, in fact he's not tempted....he himself is temptation..some pastors are not even born to it...and that's sadly the case of many Christians..

there's a reason why Jesus said the judgment of those that prech the gospel will be severe
Like I said he see's the heart...he described David as a man after his heart....come on, David wasn't perfect...but he had a repentant heart.
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Now Accessing the Lives Of david And Saul. I Think God's judgement between saul and David Was Not Fair
Re: Isnt This A Ridiculous Teaching In Christianity? by God2man(m): 7:06am On May 30, 2018
IamPlato:
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Now Accessing the Lives Of david And Saul. I Think God's judgement between saul and David Was Not Fair

I don't know what you mean by fair because David repented.

Did Saul repent?
Re: Isnt This A Ridiculous Teaching In Christianity? by IamPlato(m): 7:29am On May 30, 2018
God2man:


I don't know what you mean by fair because David repented.

Did Saul repent?
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Saul knelt down and Held On To Samuel's garment In Order To Ask For Forgiveness but The Garment Tore and samuel Cursed Him
Re: Isnt This A Ridiculous Teaching In Christianity? by Niflheim(m): 2:12pm On May 30, 2018
@op,

This doctrine encourages so many Christians to go into crime, with the mindset of................."I will repent after I finish stealing the money!!!"
Re: Isnt This A Ridiculous Teaching In Christianity? by budaatum: 2:25pm On May 30, 2018
And who is it that has gone to this heaven to check who was allowed in?

Or are you just asking what it is that you should believe?
Re: Isnt This A Ridiculous Teaching In Christianity? by budaatum: 2:36pm On May 30, 2018
Niflheim:
@op,

This doctrine encourages so many Christians to go into crime, with the mindset of................."I will repent after I finish stealing the money!!!"
Worst is the notion that all my future sins are already forgiven.

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Re: Isnt This A Ridiculous Teaching In Christianity? by Omudia11: 4:30am On Dec 28, 2018
But you're not a Christian and nor do you even read it so how does that concern you? Those of us Christians understand it and have seen no confusion whatsoever so go look for something else to say.
IamPlato:
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The Problem Is That, the Bible Has Been Interpretted in Various Ways To Cause Enough Confusion
Re: Isnt This A Ridiculous Teaching In Christianity? by Omudia11: 4:32am On Dec 28, 2018
Then that person may not get other rewards in heaven but a faithful Christian who has served God for years and won lots of souls has his rewards stockpiled for him in heaven.
IamPlato:
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So What About The Killer That Makes Heaven In The last Minute. What Will Be His Heavenly Reward
Re: Isnt This A Ridiculous Teaching In Christianity? by oaroloye(m): 5:26am On May 04, 2021
MISHIGAS!

IamPlato:
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Talking About Last Minute Repentance and Last Minute Lose...

ANYONE WITH INTELLIGENCE SHOULD KNOW THAT THINGS CHRISTIANITY TEACHES ARE NOT NECESSARILY TRUE!

That there are authorized Teachings supported by God, and Unauthorized Teachings, not supported by God.

THE OYINBOS ARE A WICKED RACE OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE NEVER WANTED THE TRUTH: JUST COMFORTING LIES THAT SATISFY THEM IN THIS LIFE.

If it turns out, in the AfterLife, that the lies do not work, they all decide to worry about it THEN.

For now, THEY DON'T CARE if the Paths they are on lead to ETERNAL DAMNATION.

THAT IS HOW OYINBOS ARE.

I was just banned for 3 days on FACEBOOK, for saying that Americans were fools. Before I could answer the charge, they added 27 more days, because they had punished me with 30 day bans, 7 times before.

For telling them the Truth.

OYINBOS ARE RAISED TO BEBWEAK-MINDED CATTLE, WHO BLINDLY FOLLOW "AUTHORITIES:" EVEN WHEN THEY ARE PROVEN TO BE WRONG.

[See: THE DELIBERATE DUMBING-DOWN OF AMERICA, by Charlotte Iserbyt.]

oaroloye:
MISHIGAS!

Franzinni post=87883602:

He was destined to die according to daddy GO

. EZEKIEL 18:4.

4. "Behold,
all Souls are Mine:
as the Soul of the father,
so also the Soul of the son
is Mine:
THE SOUL THAT SINNETH,
IT SHALL DIE."


PEOPLE ONLY DIE BECAUSE OF THEIR SINS.

. EZEKIEL 18:20-32.

20. "The soul that sinneth,
it shall die.
The son shall not bear
the Iniquity of the father,
neither shall the father
bear the Iniquity of the son:
the Righteousness of the Righteous
shall be upon him,
and the Wickedness of the Wicked
shall be upon him.
21. "But if the Wicked
will turn from all his Sins
that he hath committed,
and keep all My Statutes,
and do that
which is Lawful and Right,
he shall surely live,
he shall not die.
22. "All his Transgressions
that he hath committed,
they shall not be
mentioned unto him:
in his Righteousness
that he hath done he shall live.
23. "Have I any Pleasure at all
that the Wicked should die?"

Saith The Lord GOD:

"and not that he should
return from his ways,
and live?
24. "But when the Righteous
turneth away from
his Righteousness,
and committeth Iniquity,
and doeth according
to all the Abominations
that the Wicked man doeth,
shall he live?
All his Righteousness
that he hath done
shall not be mentioned:
in his Trespass
that he hath trespassed,
and in his Sin that he hath sinned,
in them shall he die.
25. "Yet ye say,

'THE WAY OF THE LORD
IS NOT EQUAL.'


Hear now,
O House of Israel;
Is not My Way equal?
Are not your ways unequal?
26. "When a Righteous man
turneth away from his Righteousness,
and committeth Iniquity,
and dieth in them;
for his Iniquity
that he hath done shall he die.
27. "Again,
when the Wicked man
turneth away
from his Wickedness
that he hath committed,
and doeth that
which is Lawful and Right,
he shall save his soul alive.
28. "Because he considereth,
and turneth away
from all his Transgressions
that he hath committed,
he shall surely live,
he shall not die.
29. "Yet saith The House of Israel,

'THE WAY OF THE LORD
IS NOT EQUAL.'


"O House of Israel,
are not My Ways equal?
Are not your ways unequal?
30. "Therefore I will Judge you,
O House of Israel,
every one according to
his ways,"

saith The Lord GOD.

"Repent,
and turn yourselves
from all your transgressions;
so iniquity shall not
be your ruin.
31. "Cast away from you
all your Transgressions,
whereby ye have transgressed;
and make you a new heart
and a new spirit:
for why will ye die,
O House of Israel?
32. "For I have no Pleasure
in the Death of him that dieth,"

Saith The Lord GOD:

"wherefore turn yourselves,
and live ye."

ALL OF THE OLD TESTAMENT PROPHETS WERE THIEVES AND ROBBERS, WHO LED ISRAEL TO RUIN, BECAUSE THEY WOULD NOT SEE THE GOSPEL.

.     EXODUS 20:1-7.

AND God Spake
all these Words,
Saying,

2. "I (am) The LORD thy God,
Which have brought thee
out of The Land of Egypt,
out of The House of Bondage.

3. "Thou shalt have
no other gods before Me.

4. "Thou shalt not
make unto thee
any graven image,
or any likeness (of any thing)
that (is) in the Earth beneath,
or that (is) in the Water
under the Earth:
5. "Thou shalt not
bow down thyself to them,
nor serve them:
for I The LORD thy God
(am) a Jealous God,
visiting the iniquity
of the fathers
upon the third and fourth (generation)
of them that Hate Me.
6. "And shewing Mercy
unto thousands of them
which Love Me,
and Keep My Commandments.

7. "Thou shalt not
take The Name
of The LORD thy God
in vain;
for The LORD will not
hold him guiltless
that taketh His Name
in vain."

WHAT PROPHET EZEKIEL SAID CONTRADICTED THE LAW OF GOD BY MOSES! GOD HOLDS EVERY HUMAN ACCOUNTABLE FOR THE INIQUITIES OF THEIR PARENTS, THEIR GRANDPARENTS, AND THEIR GREAT-GRANDPARENTS.

Anyone coming to God MUST CONFRONT THE FACT that their ANCESTORS committed acts that VOIDED their RIGHT-TO-LIVE, and to be SURVIVED BY OFFSPRING!

GboyegaD:

May his soul rest in perfect peace. He has fought the good faith.

THE PASTOR" DID NOT FIGHT ANY "GOOD FIGHT- HE DIED AS A HYPOCRITE, BLOCKING CHRISTIANS FROM ENTERING THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN![/i]

He fought THE GOOD FAITH- in that, you spoke correctly!

. NUMBERS 15:27-31.

27. "And if any man Sin
through Ignorance,
then he shall bring
a She Goat of the first year
for a Sin Offering.
28. "And the Priest
shall make an Atonement
for the Soul
that Sinneth Ignorantly,
when he Sinneth
by Ignorance
before The LORD,
to make an Atonement
for him,
and it shall be
forgiven him.
29. " Ye shall have one Law
for him that Sinneth Ignorantly
(both for) him
that is born
among the Children of Israel,
and for the Stranger
that sojourneth
among them.
30. "But the Soul
that doeth
(ought) presumptuously,
(whether he be)
born in the land,
or a Stranger,
the same reproacheth
The LORD;
and that Soul
shall be cut off
from among his people.
31. "Because he hath
despised The Word
of The LORD,
and hath broken
His Commandment,
that Soul
shall utterly be cut off;
his Iniquity
(shall be) upon him."

HE DELIBERATELY BROKE GOD'S COMMANDMENTS!

It is the DUTY of the PARENTS to teach their children EVERYTHING THERE IS TO KNOW ABOUT YAHWEH GOD- He never authorized any "PROPHET," or "PASTOR" to do that for them!

. DEUTERONOMY 6:1-9.

NOW these are
The Commandments,
The Statutes,
and The Judgments,
Which The LORD your God
Commanded to teach you,
that ye might do them
in the land whither ye go
to possess It:
2. That thou mightest
fear The LORD thy God,
to keep all His Statutes
and His Commandments,
Which I Command thee,
thou, and thy son,
and thy son's son,
all the days of thy life;
and that thy days
may be prolonged.
3. Hear therefore,
O Israel,
and observe to do (It);
that it may be well with thee,
and that ye may
increase mightily,
as the LORD God of thy fathers
hath promised thee,
in the land that floweth
with milk and honey.
4. Hear, O Israel:
The LORD our God
is one LORD:
5. And thou shalt love
The LORD thy God
with all thine Heart,
and with all thy Soul,
and with all thy might.
6. And these Words,
which I Command thee this day,
shall be in thine heart:
7. And thou shalt teach Them
diligently unto thy children,
and shalt talk of Them
when thou sittest
in thine house,
and when thou walkest
by the way,
and when thou liest down,
and when thou risest up.
8. And thou shalt bind Them
for a sign upon thine hand,
and they shall be as frontlets
between thine eyes.
9. And thou shalt write Them
upon the posts of thy house,
and on thy gates.

IT IS THE DUTY OF PARENTS TO RAISE THEIR CHILDREN TO BE PROPHETS OF GOD BY AGE 20.

Achieving HOLINESS, the Servant of God develops TEN "TALENTS:"

. LEVITICUS 19:1-2.

AND The LORD
Spake unto Moses,
Saying,

2. "Speak unto all
The Congregation of
The Children of Israel,
and say unto them,

'YE SHALL BE HOLY:
FOR I THE LORD YOUR GOD
(AM) HOLY."


. THE TEN TALENTS OF POWER. (Matt. 25.)

1. TOTAL RECALL.
2. EXTRASENSORY PERCEPTION.
3. TELEKINESIS.
4. TELEPORTATION.
5. TRANSLATION.
6-10. EVERLASTING LIFE.


Anyone who dies without THE FIRST "TALENT:" TOTAL RECALL, will be destroyed without entering the AfterLife. That is "THE PORTION OF THE UNBELIEVERS."

. LUKE 12:35-48.

35. "Let your loins
be girded about,
and your lights burning;
36. "And ye yourselves
like unto men
that wait for their lord,
when he will return
from the wedding;
that when he cometh
and knocketh,
they may open unto him
immediately.
37. "Blessed are
those servants,
whom the lord
when he cometh
shall find watching:
verily I Say unto you,

'THAT HE SHALL
GIRD HIMSELF,
AND MAKE THEM
SIT DOWN TO MEAT,
AND WILL COME FORTH
AND SERVE THEM.'


38. "And if he shall come
in the Second Watch,
or come in the Third Watch,
and find them so,
blessed are those servants.
39. "And this know,

'THAT IF THE GOODMAN
OF THE HOUSE HAD KNOWN
WHAT HOUR
THE THIEF WOULD COME
HE WOULD HAVE WATCHED,
AND NOT SUFFERED
HIS HOUSE TO BE
BROKEN THROUGH.'


40. "Be ye therefore ready also:
for The Son of Man cometh
at an hour when ye think not."

41. Then Peter said unto him,

"Lord, Speakest thou this Parable
unto us,
or even to all?"

42. And the Lord Said,

"Who then is that faithful
and wise steward,
whom his lord
shall make ruler
over his household,
to give them
their portion of meat
in due season?
43. "Blessed is that Servant,
whom his lord when he cometh
shall find so doing.
44. Of a Truth I Say unto you,

'THAT HE WILL
MAKE HIM RULER
OVER ALL
THAT HE HATH.'


45. "But and if that servant
say in his heart

,'MY LORD DELAYETH
HIS COMING;'


and shall begin to beat
the menservants and maidens,
and to eat and drink,
and to be drunken;
46. "The lord of that servant
will come in a day
when he looketh not for him,
and at an hour
when he is not aware,
and will cut him in sunder,
and will appoint him
his portion
with the unbelievers.
47. "And that servant,
which knew his lord's will,
and prepared not himself,
neither did
according to his will,
shall be beaten
with many stripes.
48. "But he that knew not,
and did commit things
worthy of stripes,
shall be beaten
with few stripes.
For unto whomsoever
much is given,
of him shall be
much required:
and to whom men
have committed much,
of him they will
ask the more."

[See: THE EAGLE'S GIFT, by Carlos Castaneda.
THE FIRE FROM WITHIN, by Carlos Castaneda.
THE POWER OF SILENCE, by Carlos Castaneda.
THE ACTIVE SIDE OF INFINITY, by Carlos Castaneda.]

Weedsmoker:

He came,he saw,he conquered.

Sleep on the bossom of the Lord.

. PROVERBS 10:2, 5.

2. Treasures of Wickedness
profit nothing:
but Righteousness delivereth
from Death.
5. He that gathereth in summer
is a wise son:
but he that sleepeth in Harvest
is a son that causeth shame.

LANDON SPRADLIN (66) DIED AFTER STATING THAT THE MEDIA WAS PUMPING OUT FEAR OVER THE CORONAVIRUS-19.

He spent a week on a ventilator, before dying, diagnosed with PNEUMONIA.

https://www.christiantoday.com/article/virginia-pastor-said-coronavirus-mass-hysteria-dies-covid-19/134568.htm

. JOSHUA 1:8.

8. "This Book of The Law
shall not depart
out of thy mouth
but thou shalt meditate
therein day and night,
that thou mayest do
according to all
that is written therein:
for then thou shalt
make thy way prosperous,
and then thou shalt have
Good Success."

THAT MEANS THAT HIS CHURCH WAS AS USELESS AS HE HAD TRAINED THEM TO BE, AND AS HE HIMSELF WAS.

I believe his death to be an ASSASSINATION.

(I have since heard, that placing a person on a ventilator they do not need can kill them in a matter of hours, by over-inflating their lungs, and that this simple trick has been used to murder many supposed "COVID-19 VICTIMS."wink

IamPlato:

You Here That, Somebody Who Has Been A Terrible Person Most Of His life, Killing People, using Them For Ritual Or Selling Their Part but At The Point Of Death Repents And Is Accepted into Heaven.

[]THIS UNSAVORY DOCTRINE IS CALLED EXTREME UNCTION, AND WAS APPARENTLY INVENTED BY THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH, BUT IS REALLY A PAGAN BABYLONIAN TRADITION.[/b]

[See: THE TWO BABYLONS: Or Papal Worship proven to be the Worship of Nimrod and his Wife, by Reverend Alexander Hislop.]

No one who believes in Traditional Christianity can reasonably object to EXTREME UNCTION.

oaroloye:


. DEUTERONOMY 12:32-13:5.

32. What thing soever
I Command you,
observe to do it:
thou shalt not add thereto,
nor diminish from it.
IF THERE arise among you
a Prophet,
or a Dreamer of Dreams,
and giveth thee
a Sign or a Wonder,
2. And the Sign or the Wonder
come to pass,
whereof he spake unto thee,
saying,

"LET US GO
AFTER OTHER GODS,
WHICH THOU
HAST NOT KNOWN,
AND LET US
SERVE THEM."


3. Thou shalt not hearken
unto the words of that Prophet,
or that Dreamer of Dreams:
for The LORD thy God
loveth you,
to know whether ye love
The LORD your God
with all your heart
and with all your soul.
4. Ye shall walk after
The LORD your God,
and fear Him,
and keep His Commandments,
and obey His Voice,
and ye shall serve Him,
and cleave unto Him.
5. And that Prophet,
or that Dreamer of Dreams,
shall be put to Death;
because he hath spoken
to turn (you) away
from The LORD your God,
Which brought you
out of the land of Egypt,
and redeemed you
out of the House of Bondage,
to thrust thee
out of The Way which
The LORD thy God
Commanded thee to walk in.
So shalt thou put
the Evil away
from the midst of thee.

IF WE GO BY "THE BIBLE," IT DOESN'T MATTER WHICH OF LORD YESHUA'S COMMANDMENTS A CHRISTIAN BREAKS: THEY CANNOT LOSE THEIR SALVATION.

. ROMANS 10:8-13.

8. But what saith it?

"THE WORD IS NIGH THEE,
EVEN IN THY MOUTH,
AND IN THY HEART:"


that is, The Word of Faith,
Which we preach;

9. "THAT IF THOU SHALT
CONFESS WITH THY MOUTH
THE LORD JESUS,
AND SHALT BELIEVE
IN THINE HEART
THAT GOD HATH
RAISED HIM FROM THE DEAD
THOU SHALT BE SAVED."


10. For with the heart
man believeth unto Righteousness;
and with the mouth
confession is made unto Salvation.
11. For the scripture saith,

"WHOSOEVER BELIEVETH ON HIM
SHALL NOT BE ASHAMED."


12. For there is no difference
between the Jew and the Greek:
for the same Lord over all
is Rich unto all
that call upon him.
13. For whosoever shall
call upon the Name of the Lord
shall be Saved.

BUT WHAT IF PAUL HAD NO AUTHORITY TO ISSUE THOSE PROMISES?

What if HE HIMSELF had FAILED HIS TEST, and wanted EVERYONE ELSE to FAIL ALSO?

What more obvious test can there be, of someone GAINSAYING Lord Yeshua's Teachings, and making claims that HE DENIED?

. MATTHEW 7:12-29.

12. "Therefore all things
whatsoever ye would
that men should do to you,
do ye even so to them:
for this is
The Law and The Prophets.
13. "Enter ye in
at The Strait Gate:
for wide is the Gate,
and broad is the way,
that leadeth to Destruction,
and many there be
which go in thereat:
14. "Because strait is the Gate,
and narrow is The Way,
which leadeth unto Life,
and few there be that find it.
15. "Beware of False Prophets,
which come to you
in sheep's clothing,
but inwardly they are
ravening wolves.
16. "Ye shall know them by their fruits.
Do men gather
grapes of thorns,
or figs of thistles?
17. "Even so every Good Tree
bringeth forth Good Fruit;
but a Corrupt Tree
bringeth forth Evil Fruit.
18. "A Good Tree cannot
bring forth Evil Fruit,
neither can a Corrupt Tree
bring forth Good Fruit.
19. "Every tree that
bringeth not forth Good Fruit
is hewn down,
and cast into the Fire.
20 Wherefore by their Fruits
ye shall know them.
21. "Not every one
that saith unto me,
'Lord, Lord,' shall enter into
The Kingdom of Heaven;
but He that doeth
The Will of my Father
Which is in Heaven.
22 Many will say to me
in That Day,

'LORD, LORD,
HAVE WE NOT
PROPHESIED IN THY NAME?
AND IN THY NAME
HAVE CAST OUT DEVILS?
AND IN THY NAME
DONE MANY
WONDERFUL WORKS?'


23. "And then will I
profess unto them,

'I NEVER KNEW YOU:
DEPART FROM ME,
YE THAT WORK INIQUITY.'


24. "Therefore whosoever heareth
These Sayings of mine,
and doeth Them,
I will liken him unto
a Wise Man,
which built his house
upon a rock:
25. "And the rain descended,
and the floods came,
and the winds blew,
and beat upon that house;
and it fell not:
for it was founded
upon a rock.
26 . "And every one
that heareth
These Sayings of mine,
and doeth them not,
shall be likened unto
a Foolish Man,
which built his house
upon the sand:
27. "And the rain descended,
and the floods came,
and the winds blew,
and beat upon that house;
and it fell:
and great was the fall of it."
28. And it came to pass,
when Jesus had
ended these Sayings,
the people were astonished
at his Doctrine:
29. For He taught them
as one having authority,
and not as the scribes.

IF ANOTHER MESSENGER CAN COME AND SUPERSEDE THE WORDS OF LORD YESHUA, THAT MEANS THAT HE AND HIS TEACHINGS ARE NOT THE ROCK FOUNDATION.

That would mean that we have no foundation. That is not the Lord Yeshua I believe on. Is it the one YOU believe on?


IF WE GO BY APOSTOLIC DOCTRINE, THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH EXTREME UNCTION.

But with such a Teaching, Lord Yeshua cannot say that a Christian can lose his Salvation over Unforgiveness, either!

Either you believe LORD YESHUA, or you believe PAUL. You cannot believe both.
Re: Isnt This A Ridiculous Teaching In Christianity? by Kobojunkie: 5:33am On May 04, 2021
IamPlato:
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Talking About Last Minute Repentance and Last Minute Lose...
You Here That, Somebody Who Has Been A Terrible Person Most Of His life, Killing People, using Them For Ritual Or Selling Their Part but At The Point Of Death Repents And Is Accepted into Heaven.
And Then Another Person Who Has Been Very Devoted To the Christian Faith all His Life but suddenly Gets into An issue With Someone where He Refuses To Forgive and Then He Suddenly Dies and Is Sent To Hell For Not Forgiving someone.

This Is Highly Unreasonable! A Murderer Makes Heaven At A Split Second (what Reward Does He Recieve in Heaven) But A faithful Man Misses Heaven At A Split Second (what Happens To All His Life Struggles?)
I Need Answers
That's why it pays to read the bible so you can learn Truth for your own self and not fall for the lies and delusions of men. undecided

In Matthew 25 vs 31-46, Jesus Christ clearly tells you the criteria that will have to be met by people in order to enter into Heaven - Righteousness is the cut off. undecided

A newly repented soul is not likely to meet up with that requirement now,is he? undecided
Re: Isnt This A Ridiculous Teaching In Christianity? by Kobojunkie: 5:47am On May 04, 2021
Cadec007:
from my research GOD does not judge us immediately after death....... That's no1............let's banter on that first
if you read Matthew 25 vs 31-41, there Jesus Christ, the one who owns Heaven and Hell, tells you that judgement is only to take place after He returns, not before. Those who believe and are dead, will sleep in their graves until such as time as Jesus Christ returns to raise them. undecided

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Re: Isnt This A Ridiculous Teaching In Christianity? by Dtruthspeaker: 5:49am On May 04, 2021
IamPlato:
...
Talking About Last Minute Repentance and Last Minute Lose...

You Here That, Somebody Who Has Been A Terrible Person Most Of His life, Killing People, using Them For Ritual Or Selling Their Part but At The Point Of Death Repents And Is Accepted into Heaven.

And Then Another Person Who Has Been Very Devoted To the Christian Faith all His Life but suddenly Gets into An issue With Someone where He Refuses To Forgive and Then He Suddenly Dies and Is Sent To Hell For Not Forgiving someone.

This Is Highly Unreasonable! A Murderer Makes Heaven At A Split Second (what Reward Does He Recieve in Heaven) But A faithful Man Misses Heaven At A Split Second (what Happens To All His Life Struggles?)
I Need Answers

It is a Teaching of Lies given by Liars! And yes it is Unreasonable and God Never Does any Unreasonable thing.

Which is why we have the Day of The Lord, which is The Day Set Aside for Judgements!
Re: Isnt This A Ridiculous Teaching In Christianity? by Kobojunkie: 5:51am On May 04, 2021
Cadec007:
the same religious leaders would not explain that hell actually means grave and that when one dies he would be forgotten here on earth but not in heaven.
Hell is not the grave. Your graves are of this world. Whereas Heaven and Hell are of the Kingdom of God - a kingdom not of this world. undecided

So when people who believe die, they don't go anywhere, No! They sleep right there in their graves, waiting for Jesus Christ to return and raise them from it. undecided

Stories you read or hear of people going to Heaven, seeing lots of people there and coming back are not based on the teachings of Jesus Christ at all. There are no humans in Heaven and in Hell. The Kingdom of God will not be open for admission of souls until after Jesus Christ has returned to raise His flock up to Him. undecided

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Re: Isnt This A Ridiculous Teaching In Christianity? by Kobojunkie: 5:57am On May 04, 2021

Ur answer is in the parable of math20v9...i.e if u are Christian and not just a a Bible antagonist...there scripture for all our mind bugging questions

If Jesus can say that some prostitutes will make it to heaven and some teachers of the word binding and casting out demons in his name won't,It means that God sees the heart only.
Jesus Christ said the prostitutes and sinners will make it into the Kingdom of God (not to be confused with Heaven) before the Pharisees, meaning by their repentance, they are become "Christians" or believers before the Pharisees. undecided

Everyone who repents or believes in Jesus Christ, is baptized, eating the body and drinking the blood of Jesus Christ enters into the Kingdom of God, the New Covenant between God and individual man. But only those who proceed to becoming righteous will enter the Kingdom of Heaven, a subdomain in the Kingdom of God. undecided
Re: Isnt This A Ridiculous Teaching In Christianity? by chidifrank(m): 6:11am On May 04, 2021
IamPlato:
...

Saul knelt down and Held On To Samuel's garment In Order To Ask For Forgiveness but The Garment Tore and samuel Cursed Him
Where in d bible so I can read for myself and accept
Re: Isnt This A Ridiculous Teaching In Christianity? by oaroloye(m): 11:41am On May 04, 2021
IamPlato:

And Then Another Person Who Has Been Very Devoted To the Christian Faith all His Life but suddenly Gets into An issue With Someone where He Refuses To Forgive and Then He Suddenly Dies and Is Sent To Hell For Not Forgiving someone.

THE BASIS OF THIS DOCTRINE IS:

oaroloye:

. MARK 11:12-26.

12. And on the morrow,
when they had
come from Bethany,
he was hungry:
13. And seeing a fig tree
afar off having leaves,
he went to see if perhaps
he might find
any thing thereon:
But when he came to it
he found nothing
but leaves;
for the time
for figs was not (yet).

14. And Jesus Answered
and Said unto it,

“Let no man
eat fruit of thee hereafter
for ever.”

And his Disciples heard (it).
15. And they come to Jerusalem:
and Jesus went into The Temple,
and began to cast out
them that sold and bought
in The Temple,
and overthrew
the tables of the moneychangers,
and the seats of them
that sold doves;
16. And would not suffer
that any man should carry
any vessel through the Temple.
17. And he Taught,
saying unto them,

"Is it not written,

'MY HOUSE SHALL BE
CALLED OF ALL NATIONS
THE HOUSE OF PRAYER?
BUT YE HAVE MADE IT
A DEN OF THIEVES.' "


18. And the Scribes
and Chief Priests
heard it,
and sought how
they might destroy him:
for they feared him,
because all the people
was astonished at his Doctrine.
19. And when even was come,
he went out of the city.

20 And in the morning,
as they passed by,
they saw the fig tree
dried up from the roots.
21. And Peter,
calling to remembrance
saith unto him,

“Master, behold,
the fig tree
which thou cursedst
is withered away.”
22. And Jesus Answering,
Said unto them,

“Have Faith in God.
23. "For verily I Say unto you,

'THAT WHOSOEVER SHALL SAY
UNTO THIS MOUNTAIN,


"BE THOU REMOVED,
AND BE THOU
CAST INTO THE SEA;'

AND SHALL NOT
DOUBT IN HIS HEART,
BUT SHALL BELIEVE
THAT THOSE THINGS
WHICH HE SAITH
SHALL COME TO PASS;
HE SHALL HAVE
WHATSOEVER HE SAITH.'


24. "Therefore I Say unto you,

'WHAT THINGS SOEVER YE DESIRE,
WHEN YE PRAY,
BELIEVE THAT YE RECEIVE (THEM),
AND YE SHALL HAVE (THEM).'


25. "And when ye stand praying,
forgive, if ye have aught against any,
that your Father also
which is in Heaven
may forgive you your trespasses.
26. "But if ye do not forgive,
neither will your Father
Which is in Heaven
forgive your trespasses."

HOWEVER, NONE OF LORD YESHUA'S DISCIPLES BELIEVED IN FORGIVENESS.

CEPHAS tried to get Lord Yeshua to sanction his Unforgiveness of people.

. MATTHEW 18:15-35.

15. "Moreover if thy Brother
shall trespass against thee,
go and tell him his fault
between thee and him alone:
if he shall hear thee,
thou hast gained thy Brother.
16. "But if he will not hear thee,
then take with thee
one or two more,

'THAT IN THE MOUTH
OF TWO OR THREE WITNESSES
EVERY WORD
MAY BE ESTABLISHED.'


17. "And if he shall neglect to hear them,
tell it unto the Church:
but if he neglect
to hear the Church,
let him be unto thee
as an Heathen man and a Publican.
18. "Verily I Say unto you,

'WHATSOEVER YE SHALL
BIND ON EARTH
SHALL BE BOUND IN HEAVEN:
AND WHATSOEVER YE SHALL
LOOSE ON EARTH
SHALL BE LOOSED IN HEAVEN.'


19. "Again I Say unto you,

'THAT IF TWO OF YOU
SHALL AGREE ON EARTH
AS TOUCHING ANY THING
THAT THEY SHALL ASK,
IT SHALL BE DONE FOR THEM
OF MY FATHER
WHICH IS IN HEAVEN.'
[/b]he
20. "For where two or three
are gathered together
in my Name,
there am I
in the midst of them.

21 Then came Peter to him,
and said,

"Lord, how oft
shall my Brother Sin
against me,
nd I forgive him?
Till seven times?""

22. Jesus Saith unto him,

"I Say not unto thee,

[b] 'UNTIL SEVEN TIMES:'


but,

'UNTIL SEVENTY TIMES SEVEN.'

23. "Therefore is the Kingdom of Heaven
likened unto a certain king,
which would take account of his servants.
24. "And when he had
begun to reckon,
one was brought unto him,
which owed him
ten thousand talents.
25. "But forasmuch as
he had not to pay,
his lord commanded him
to be sold,
and his wife,
and children,
and all that he had,
and payment to be made.
26. "The servant therefore
fell down
and worshipped him,
saying,

'LORD,
HAVE PATIENCE
WITH ME,
AND I WL
PAY THEE ALL.'


27. "Then the lord
of that servant
was moved with compassion,
and loosed him,
and forgave him the debt.
28. "But the same servant
went out,
and found one of his fellowservants,
which owed him
an hundred pence:
and he laid hands on him,
and took him by the throat,
saying,

'PAY ME THAT THOU OWEST.'

29. "And his fellowservant
fell down at his feet,
and besought him,
saying,

'HAVE PATIENCE
WITH ME,
AND I WILL
PAY THEE ALL.'


30. "And he would not:
but went and cast him
into Prison,
till he should pay the Debt.
31. "So when his fellowservants
saw what was done,
they were very sorry,
and came and told
unto their lord
all that was done.
32. "Then his lord,
after that he had called him,
said unto him,

'O THOU
WICKED SERVANT,
I FORGAVE THEE
ALL THAT DEBT,
BECAUSE THOU
DESIREDST ME:
33. 'SHOULDEST NOT THOU
ALSO HAVE HAD COMPASSION
ON TNY FELLOWSERVANT,
EVEN AS I HAD PITY ON THEE?'


34. "And his lord was wroth,
and delivered him
to the Tormentors,
till he should pay
all that was due unto him.
35. "So likewise shall
my Heavenly Father
do also unto you,
if ye from your hearts
forgive not every one
his brother
their trespasses."

I FIND NO EVIDENCE THAT THE SO-CALLED "APOSTLES" ACCEPTED ANY OF THE LORD YESHUA'S CORRECTIONS.

They all thought that they knew better than him!

oaroloye:


[.   MARK 14:27-31.

27. And Jesus Saith unto them,

"All ye shall be offended
because of me this night:
for it is written,

'I WILL SMITE THE SHEPHERD,
AND THE SHEEP
WILL BE SCATTERED.'


28. "But after that I am risen,
I will go before you into Galilee."

29. But Peter said unto him,

"Although all shall be offended,
yet will not I."

30. And Jesus Saith
unto him,

"Verily I Say unto thee,

'THAT THIS DAY,
EVEN IN THIS NIGHT,
BEFORE THE COCK CROW TWICE,
THOU SHALT DENY ME THRICE.'


31. But he spake the more vehemently,

"If I should die with thee,
I will not deny thee in any wise."

Likewise also said they all.[/color]

ACCORDING TO CEPHAS' LATER JUDGMENT, WHAT HE AND ALL THE DISCIPLES DID WAS "LYING UNTO GOD."

. NUMBERS 30:1-2.

AND Moses spake
unto the Heads of the Tribes
concerning the Children of Israel,
saying,

"This is the Thing
Which The LORD hath Commanded.

2. "IF A MAN VOW A VOW
UNTO THE LORD,
OR SWEAR AN OATH
TO BIND HIS SOUL
WITH A BOND;
HE SHALL NOT
BREAK HIS WORD,
HE SHALL DO
ACCORDING TO ALL
THAT PROCEEDETH
OUT OF HIS MOUTH."


For every Christian knows how their Promises to stand by him and to die with him turned out.

.   MARK 14:50.

50. And they all forsook him,
and fled.

THE DISCIPLES HAD CHOSEN THEIR DESTINY- THEY COULD NEVER BE SAVED, AFTER THAT BETRAYAL.

They had rejected THE SON OF GOD.
They had KNOWINGLY rejected a PROPHET.
They had KNOWING rejected THE WORD OF GOD.

How could they possibly come back from THAT?

. LUKE 9:57-62.

57. And it came to pass, that,
as they went in the way,
a certain man said unto him,

"Lord, I will follow thee
whithersoever thou goest."

58. And Jesus Said unto him,

"Foxes have holes,
and birds of the air have nests;
but the Son of Man hath not
where to lay his head."

59. And he said unto another,

"Follow me."

But he said,

"Lord, suffer me first
to go and bury my father."

60. Jesus Said unto him,

"Let the dead bury their dead:
but go thou and preach
The Kingdom of God."

61. And another also said,

"Lord, I will follow thee;
but let me first go bid them farewell,
which are at home at my house."

62. And Jesus Said unto him,

"No man,
having put his hand
to the plough,
and looking back,
is fit for
The Kingdom of God."

THE OYINBO NARRATIVE IS THAT THE SELF-PROCLAIMED "APOSTLES" WERE EXCEPTIONS TO LORD YESHUA'S DECREES.

If you believed that Lord Yeshua is THE CHRIST, you would not believe the "APOSTLES" over HIM.

I say "APOSTLES," in quotes, because there is no record of Lord Yeshua ever calling them that. Lord Yeshua forbade them to be called "RABBIS," or "MASTERS."

Creating different titles meaning the same thing does not technically violate the Commandment.

Let me now explain what "FEAR-OF-THE-LORD" means: TO CONSIDER THE POSSIBILITY THAT GOD MAY JUDGE AGAINST YOU AS REAL!

. ACTS 5:1-11.

BUT a certain man
named Ananias,
with Sapphira his wife,
sold a possession,
2. And kept back part
of the price,
his wife also being privy to it,
and brought a certain part,
and laid it at the Apostles' feet.
3. But Peter said,

"Ananias, why hath Satan
filled thine heart
to lie to the Holy Ghost,
and to keep back part
of the price of the land?
4. "Whiles it remained,
was it not thine own?
And after it was sold,
was it not
in thine own power?
Why hast thou conceived
this thing
in thine heart?
Thou hast not lied unto men,
but unto God."

5. And Ananias
hearing these words fell down,
and gave up the ghost:
and great fear
came on all them
that heard these things.
6. And the young men arose,
wound him up,
and carried him out,
and buried him.
7. And it was about the space
of three hours after,
when his wife,
not knowing what was done,
came in.
8. And Peter answered
unto her,

"Tell me whether
ye sold the land
for so much?"

And she said,

"Yea, for so much."

9. Then Peter said unto her,

"How is it that ye
have agreed together
to tempt
The Spirit of The Lord?
Behold,
the feet of them
which have buried
thy husband
are at the door,
and shall carry thee out."

10. Then fell she down straightway
at his feet,
and yielded up the ghost:
and the young men came in,
and found her dead,
and, carrying her forth,
buried her by her husband.
11. And great fear
came upon all the Church,
and upon as many
as heard these things.

THIS GOES AGAINST LORD YESHUA'S EXPLICIT TEACHING:

. LUKE 9:51-56.

51. And it came to pass,
when the time was come
that he should be received up,
he stedfastly set his face
to go to Jerusalem,
52. And sent messengers
before his face:
and they went,
and entered into a village
of the Samaritans,
to make ready for him.
53. And they did not
receive him,
because his face
was as though
he would go to Jerusalem.
54. And when his Disciples
James and John saw this,
they said,

"Lord, wilt thou that we
Command Fire to come down
from Heaven,
and consume them,
even as Elias did?"

55. But he turned,
and rebuked them,
and said,

"Ye know not what
manner of spirit ye are of.
56. "For The Son of Man is not
come to destroy men's lives,
but to Save them."

THE OYINBO NARRATIVE REQUIRES ONE STANDARD FOR HUMANITY, BUT A DIFFERENT ONE FOR THE APOSTLES!"


IamPlato:

This Is Highly Unreasonable! A Murderer Makes Heaven At A Split Second (what Reward Does He Recieve in Heaven) But A faithful Man Misses Heaven At A Split Second (what Happens To All His Life Struggles?)

. MATTHEW 25:13-30.

13. "Watch therefore,
for ye know neither
the Day nor the Hour wherein
The Son of Man cometh.
14. "For The Kingdom of Heaven
is as a man travelling
into a far country,
who called his own servants,
and delivered unto them
his goods.
15. "And unto one
he gave five talents,
to another two,
and to another one;
to every man according to
his several ability;
and straightway
took his journey.
16. "Then he that had
received the five talents
went and traded
with the same,
and made them
other five talents.
17. "And likewise he
that had received two,
he also gained other two.
18. "But he that had
received one
went and digged in the earth,
and hid his lord's money.
19. "After a long time
the lord of those servants cometh,
and reckoneth with them.
20. "And so he that had
received five talents
came and brought
other five talents,
saying,

'LORD,
THOU DELIVEREDST
UNTO ME FIVE TALENTS:
BEHOLD,
I HAVE GAINED
BESIDE THEM
FIVE TALENTS MORE.'


21. "His lord
said unto him,

'WELL DONE,
THOU GOOD
AND FAITHFUL SERVANT:
THOU HAST BEEN
FAITHFUL OVER
A FEW THINGS,
I WILL MAKE THEE RULER
OVER MANY THINGS:
ENTER THOU INTO
THE JOY OF THY LORD.'


22. "He also that had
received two talents
came and said,

'LORD,
THOU DELIVEREDST
UNTO ME TWO TALENTS:
BEHOLD,
I HAVE GAINED
TWO OTHER TALENTS
BESIDE THEM.'


23. "His lord
said unto him,

'WELL DONE,
GOOD AND FAITHFUL SERVANT;
THOU HAST BEEN
FAITHFUL OVER
A FEW THINGS,
I WILL MAKE THEE RULER
OVER MANY THINGS:
ENTER THOU INTO
THE JOY OF THY LORD.'


24. "Then he which had
received the one talent
came and said,

'LORD,
I KNEW THEE
THAT THOU ART
AN HARD MAN,
REAPING WHERE
THOU HAST NOT SOWN,
AND GATHERING
WHERE THOU HAST
NOT STRAWED:
25. AND I WAS AFRAID,
AND WENT AND HID
THY TALENT IN THE EARTH:
LO, THERE THOU HAST
THAT IS THINE.'


26. "His lord answered
and said unto him,

'THOU WICKED
AND SLOTHFUL SERVANT,
THOU KNEWEST
THAT I REAP
WHERE I SOWED NOT,
AND GATHER WHERE
I HAVE NOT STRAWED:
27. 'THOU OUGHTEST THEREFORE
TO HAVE PUT MY MONEY
TO THE EXCHANGERS,
AND THEN AT MY COMING
I SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED
MINE OWN WITH USURY.
28. 'TAKE THEREFORE
THE TALENT FROM HIM,
AND GIVE IT UNTO HIM
WHICH HATH TEN TALENTS.
29. 'FOR UNTO EVERY ONE
THAT HATH
SHALL BE GIVEN,
AND HE SHALL
HAVE ABUNDANCE:
BUT FROM HIM
THAT HATH NOT
SHALL BE TAKEN AWAY
EVEN THAT WHICH HE HATH.
30. 'AND CAST YE
THE UNPROFITABLE SERVANT
INTO OUTER DARKNESS:
THERE SHALL BE
WEEPING AND GNASHING
OF TEETH.' "


What Lord Yeshua says is what God Commanded Man to follow.

. DEUTERONOMY 18:15-22.

5. The LORD thy God will
raise up unto thee
a Prophet from
the midst of thee,
of thy Brethren,
like unto Me;
unto him ye shall hearken;
16. According to all
that thou desiredst
of The LORD thy God
in Horeb in
the Day of the Assembly,
saying,

"LET ME NOT HEAR AGAIN
THE VOICE OF THE LORD MY GOD,
NEITHER LET ME SEE
THIS GREAT FIRE ANY MORE,
THAT I DIE NOT."


17. And The LORD Said unto me,

"THEY HAVE WELL SPOKEN
THAT WHICH THEY HAVE SPOKEN.
18. "I WILL RAISE THEM UP A PROPHET
FROM AMONG THEIR BRETHREN,
LIKE UNTO THEE,
AND WILL PUT MY WORDS IN HIS MOUTH;
AND HE SHALL SPEAK UNTO THEM
ALL THAT I SHALL COMMAND HIM.
19. "AND IT SHALL COME TO PASS,
THAT WHOSOEVER
WILL NOT HEARKEN
UNTO MY WORDS
WHICH HE SHALL SPEAK
IN MY NAME,
I WILL REQUIRE IT OF HIM.”


20. But the prophet,
which shall presume
to speak a word in My Name,
which I have not
commanded him to speak,
or that shall speak
in the name of other gods,
even that prophet shall die.
21. "And if thou say in thine heart,

'HOW SHALL WE
KNOW THE WORD
WHICH THE LORD
HATH NOT SPOKEN?'


22. When a prophet speaketh
in The Name of The LORD,
if the thing follow not,
nor come to pass,
that is the thing which
The LORD hath not spoken,
but the prophet hath
spoken it presumptuously:
thou shalt not be afraid of him.

THERE IS NO PROPHECY OF ANY "VICE-LORDS," NOR ANY "ASSISTANT-SAVIOURS!"

Only Lord Yeshua's Teachings will be the criteria for Christian Judgment.

. JOHN 12:42-50.

42. Nevertheless among
the chief Rulers also
many believed on him;
but because of the Pharisees
they did not confess him,
lest they should be
put out of the Synagogue:
43. For they loved
the praise of men
more than The Praise of God.

44. Jesus cried and Said,

“He that believeth on me,
believeth not on me,
but on Him that sent me.
45. “And he that seeth me
seeth Him that sent me.
46. “I am come a Light
into the World,
that whosoever believeth on me
should not abide in Darkness.
47. “And if any man hear my Words,
and believe not,
I judge him not:
for I came not to judge the World,
but to save the World.
48. “He that rejecteth me,
and receiveth not my Words,
hath One that judgeth him:
The Word that I have Spoken,
the Same shall judge him
in The Last Day.
49. “For I have not
Spoken of myself;
but the Father which sent me,
He gave me a Commandment,
what I should Say,
and what I should Speak.
50. “And I know that
His Commandment
is Life Everlasting:
whatsoever I Speak therefore,
even as The Father Said unto me,
so I Speak."

THEREFORE, WHATEVER ANYONE PROMISES CONTRARY TO LORD YESHUA'S DECREES IS INVALID.

IamPlato:

I Need Answers

THEN WHY DIDN'T YOU READ THE BIBLE FOR YOURSELF?

Posts that do not end in punctuation are usually consistent with sponsored Agent Shill Disinformation.

That no one has come forward to answer this, since 2018, tells me that you are just not serious.

It is not important to any of you to know for a fact what happens to your Souls after the Death of your Physical Bodies.


oaroloye:

. JOHN 8:51-53.

51. "Verily, verily,
I Say unto you,

'IF A MAN
KEEP MY SAYING,
HE SHALL NEVER
SEE DEATH.' "


52. Then said the Jews
unto him,

"Now we know
that thou hast a Devil.
Abraham is dead,
and the Prophets;
and thou sayest,

'IF A MAN
KEEP MY SAYING,
HE SHALL NEVER
TASTE OF DEATH.'


53. "Art thou greater
than our father Abraham,
which is dead?
and the Prophets are dead:
whom makest thou thyself?"

. JOHN 11:25-26.

25. Jesus Said unto her,

"I am The Resurrection,
and The Life:
he that believeth in me,
hough he were dead,
yet shall he live:
26. "And whosoever liveth
and believeth in me
shall never die.
Believest thou this?"


CHRISTIANS CAN ONLY DIE BECAUSE THEY DID NOT BELIEVE AND OBEY SOME ASPECT OF LORD YESHUA'S WORD.
Re: Isnt This A Ridiculous Teaching In Christianity? by Kobojunkie: 12:29pm On May 04, 2021
Oaroloye, do you realize that your postings are considered a menace by at least my person on this forum? undecided

I have never once taken the time to read any of what you cobble up and for good reason because you tend go go off on some unrelated tangent and your comments are unreasonable long that even scrolling through them is frustrating work. undecided

If your intention is to frustrate others so they avoid your posts at all cost, then you are doing a mighty good job of that. Maybe you should create your own thread(island) where you can post your long drivel over and over and no one who is aware of who you are will bother opening that thread unless by mistake. undecided

If engaging people and ideas is what you are here for, why not learn to do unto others .... undecided
Re: Isnt This A Ridiculous Teaching In Christianity? by hucknall: 1:08pm On May 04, 2021
IamPlato:
Also The Teaching That Women Should Not Wear Trousers. On What Grounds? Why Is It Wrong For Women To Wear Trousers... If Trousers Belong To Men then Point Out One Man In The Bible Who Wears trousers




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Cadec007

At Least You Guys Should Contribute To Something Other Than Romancing Ukwu grin
I dont know about women not wearing trousers, because most americans and europeans women wear them and don't cover their hair.

but the first issue is plain now. if you want to be faithful then be faithful to the end. is that too hard?
Re: Isnt This A Ridiculous Teaching In Christianity? by oaroloye(m): 6:47pm On May 05, 2021
MISHIGAS!

Kobojunkie:
Oaroloye, do you realize that your postings are considered a menace by at least my person on this forum? undecided

I know that this forum is run and owned by EVILDOERS.

WHAT DID LORD YESHUA SAY?

. JOHN 15:17-25.

17. "These things I Command you,
that ye love one another.
18. "If the World hate you,
ye know that it hated me
before it hated you.
19. "If ye were of the World,
the World would love his own:
but because ye are
not of the World,
but I have chosen you
out of the World,
therefore the World
hateth you.
20. "Remember the Word
that I Said unto you,

'THE SERVANT IS NOT
GREATER THAN HIS LORD.'


If they have persecuted me,
they will also persecute you;
if they have kept my Saying,
they will keep yours also.
21. "But all these things
will they do unto you
for my Name's sake,
because they know not
Him that sent me.
22. "If I had not come
and Spoken unto them,
they had not had Sin:
but now they have
no cloak for their Sin.
23. "He that hateth me
hateth my Father also.
24. "If I had not
done among them
The Works which
none other man did,
they had not had Sin:
but now have they
both seen and hated
both me and my Father.
25. "But (this cometh to pass),
that the Word
might be fulfilled
that is written in their Law,

'THEY HATED ME
WITHOUT A CAUSE.' "


26. "But when The Comforter
is come,
Whom I will send unto you
From The Father,
even The Spirit of Truth,
Which proceedeth
from The Father,
He shall testify of me:
27. "And ye also
shall bear witness,
because ye have been with me
From The Beginning."

Kobojunkie:

I have never once taken the time to read any of what you cobble up

THEN HOW COULD YOU LEARN ANYTHING?

. LEVITICUS 19:32-37.

32. Thou shalt rise up
before the hoary head,
and honour the face
of the old man,
and fear thy God:
I (am) The LORD.
33. "And if a stranger
sojourn with thee in your land,
ye shall not vex him.
34. " (But) the stranger
that dwelleth with you
shall be unto you
as one born among you,
and thou shalt love him
as thyself;
for ye were strangers
in the land of Egypt:
I (am) The LORD your God.
35. "Ye shall do
no unrighteousness in Judgment,
in meteyard, in weight,
or in measure.
36. "Just balances,
just weights,
a just ephah,
and a just hin,
shall ye have:
I (am) The LORD your God,
Which brought you
out of the land of Egypt.
37.Therefore shall ye
observe all My Statutes,
and all My Judgments,
and do them:
I am The LORD."

. MATTHEW 7:1-6.

“JUDGE not,
that ye be not judged.
2. "For with what
judgment ye judge,
ye shall be judged;
and with what
measure ye mete,
it shall be
measured to you again.
3. "And why beholdest thou
the mote
that is in thy brother's eye,
but considerest not the beam
that is in thine own eye?
4. "Or how wilt thou
say to thy brother,

'LET ME PULL OUT
THE MOTE
OUT OF THINE EYE;'


and, behold,
a beam is in thine own eye?
5. "Thou Hypocrite,
first cast out the beam
out of thine own eye;
and then shalt thou see clearly
to cast out the mote
out of thy brother's eye.
6. "Give not that which is holy
unto the dogs,
neither cast ye your pearls
before swine,
lest they trample them
under their feet,
and turn again
and rend you."

Kobojunkie:

and for good reason because you tend go go off on some unrelated tangent and your comments are unreasonable long that even scrolling through them is frustrating work. undecided

YOU ARE A DOG- TO COMPREHEND THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN IS BEYOND YOUR ABILITY.

If you had manners, you could've asked for help.

. LEVITICUS 19:1-2.

AND The LORD
Spake unto Moses,
Saying,

2. "Speak unto all
The Congregation of
The Children of Israel,
and say unto them,

'YE SHALL BE HOLY:
FOR I THE LORD YOUR GOD
(AM) HOLY."


. REVELATION 22:11-12.

11. "He that is UNJUST,
let him be Unjust still:
and he which is FILTHY,
let him be Filthy still:
and he that is RIGHTEOUS,
let him be Righteous still:
and he that is HOLY,
let him be Holy still.
12. "And, behold,
I come quickly;
and my Reward is with me,
to give every man According
as his Work shall be."

. MATTHEW 13:1-23.

THE same day went Jesus out of the house,
and sat by the sea side.
2. And great multitudes
were gathered together
unto him,
so that he went into a ship,
and sat;
and the whole multitude
stood on the shore.
3. And he Spake many things
unto them in Parables,
Saying,

"Behold, a sower
went forth to sow;
4. "And when he sowed,
some seeds
fell by the way side,
and the fowls came
and devoured them up:
5. "Some fell
upon stony places,
where they had
not much earth:
and forthwith they sprung up,
because they had
no deepness of earth:
6. "And when
the Sun was up,
they were scorched;
and because they had
no root,
they withered away.
7. "And some fell
among thorns;
and the thorns sprung up,
and choked them:
8. "But other fell
into good ground,
and brought forth fruit,
some an hundredfold,
some sixtyfold,
some thirtyfold.
9. "Who hath ears to hear,
let him hear."

10. And the Disciples came,
and said unto him,

"Why speakest thou
unto them in Parables?"

11. He answered and Said
unto them,

"Because it is given unto you
to know The Mysteries
of The Kingdom of Heaven,
but to them it is not given.
12. "For whosoever hath,
to him shall be given,
and he shall have
more abundance:
but whosoever hath not,
from him shall be taken away
even that he hath.
13. "Therefore Speak I
to them in Parables:

'BECAUSE THEY SEEING
SEE NOT;
AND HEARING
THEY HEAR NOT,
NEITHER DO THEY
UNDERSTAND.'


14. "And in them is fulfilled
the Prophecy of Esaias,
which saith,

'BY HEARING YE SHALL HEAR,
AND SHALL NOT UNDERSTAND;
AND SEEING YE SHALL SEE,
AND SHALL NOT PERCEIVE:
15. 'FOR THIS PEOPLE'S HEART
IS WAXED GROSS,
AND THEIR EARS
ARE DULL OF HEARING,
AND THEIR EYES
THEY HAVE CLOSED;
LEST AT ANY TIME
THEY SHOULD SEE WITH THEIR EYES
AND HEAR WITH THEIR EARS,
AND SHOULD UNDERSTAND
WITH THEIR HEART,
AND SHOULD BE CONVERTED,
AND I SHOULD HEAL THEM.'


16. "But Blessed
are your eyes,
for they see:
and your ears,
for they hear.
17. "For verily I Say unto you,

'THAT MANY PROPHETS
AND RIGHTEOUS MEN
HAVE DESIRED TO SEE
THOSE THINGS
WHICH YE SEE,
AND HAVE NOT SEEN THEM;
AND TO HEAR THOSE THINGS
WHICH YE HEAR,
AND HAVE NOT HEARD THEM.'


18. "Hear ye therefore
The Parable of the Sower.

19. 'WHEN ANY ONE HEARETH
THE WORD OF THE KINGDOM,
AND UNDERSTANDETH IT NOT,
THEN COMETH
THE WICKED ONE,
AND CATCHETH AWAY
THAT WHICH WAS SOWN IN HIS HEART.
THIS IS HE WHICH
RECEIVED SEED
BY THE WAY SIDE.

20. 'BUT HE THAT
RECEIVED THE SEED
INTO STONY PLACES,
THE SAME IS HE
THAT HEARETH THE WORD,
AND ANON WITH JOY
RECEIVETH IT;
21. 'YET HATH HE NOT
ROOT IN HIMSELF,
BUT DURETH FOR A WHILE:
FOR WHEN TRIBULATION OR PERSECUTION
ARISETH BECAUSE OF THE WORD,
BY AND BY HE IS OFFENDED.

22. 'HE ALSO THAT RECEIVED
SEED AMONG THE THORNS
IS HE THAT HEARETH THE WORD;
AND THE CARE OF THIS WORLD,
AND THE DECEITFULNESS OF RICHES,
CHOKE THE WORD,
AND HE BECOMETH UNFRUITFUL.

23. 'BUT HE THAT RECEIVED SEED
INTO THE GOOD GROUND
IS HE THAT HEARETH THE WORD,
AND UNDERSTANDETH IT;
WHICH ALSO BEARETH FRUIT,
AND BRINGETH FORTH,
SOME AN HUNDREDFOLD,
SOME SIXTY, SOME THIRTY.' "


. THE FOUR LEVELS OF PERCEPTION.

4. DIFFERENTIATION: The sane and intelligent ability to perceive the differences between similar things.

3. ASSOCIATION: The sane and intelligent ability to perceive the similarities between different things.

2. IDENTIFICATION: The insane and stupid inability to perceive the differences between different things.

1. DISSOCIATION: The insane and stupid inability to perceive the similarities between similar things.

0. DEATH: The Complete Failure of the ability to perceive anything.

[See: THE FUNDAMENTALS OF THOUGHT, by L. Ron Hubbard.]

Kobojunkie:

If your intention is to frustrate others so they avoid your posts at all cost, then you are doing a mighty good job of that.

. JOB 28:28.

28. "And unto Man He Said,

'BEHOLD, THE FEAR OF THE LORD,
THAT IS WISDOM;
AND TO DEPART FROM EVIL,
IS UNDERSTANDING.' "


. PSALM 111:10.

10. The Fear of The LORD
is The Beginning of Wisdom:
a Good Understanding
have all they
that do His Commandments:
His Praise endureth for ever.

. PROVERBS 1:7.

7. The Fear of The LORD
is The Beginning of Knowledge:
but Fools despise
Wisdom and Instruction.

. PROVERBS 9:10.

10. The Fear of The LORD
is The Beginning of Wisdom:
and The Knowledge of
The Holy is Understanding.

.   ISAIAH 55:6-11.

6. Seek ye The LORD,
while He may be found,
call ye upon Him
while He is near.
7. Let the Wicked
forsake his Way,
and the Unrighteous Man
his Thoughts:
and let him return
unto The LORD,
and He will have Mercy
upon him;
and to our God,
for He will abundantly pardon.

8. "FOR MY THOUGHTS
(ARE) NOT YOUR THOUGHTS,
NEITHER ARE YOUR WAYS
MY WAYS,"
Saith The LORD.
9. "FOR (AS) THE HEAVENS
ARE HIGHER
THAN THE EARTH,
SO ARE MY WAYS
HIGHER THAN YOUR WAYS,
AND MY THOUGHTS
THAN YOUR THOUGHTS.


10. "For as the rain
cometh down,
and the snow from Heaven,
and returneth not thither,
but watereth the earth,
and maketh it bring forth
and bud,
that it may give seed
to the Sower,
and bread to the Eater:
11. "So shall My Word be
that goeth forth
out of My Mouth:
It shall not
return unto Me void,
but It shall accomplish
that which I please,
and It shall prosper
(in the thing)
whereto I sent It."

. DANIEL 12:2-3.

2. And many of them
that sleep in
the dust of the Earth
shall awake,
some to Everlasting Life,
and some to Shame
(and) Everlasting Contempt.
3. And they that be wise
shall shine as
the Brightness of the Firmament;
and they that turn
many to Righteousness
as the stars for ever and ever.

. DANIEL 12:10.

10. Many shall be purified,
and made white,
and tried:
but the Wicked
shall do wickedly:
and none of the Wicked
shall Understand;
but the Wise
shall Understand.

Kobojunkie:

Maybe you should create your own thread(island) where you can post your long drivel over and over and no one who is aware of who you are will bother opening that thread unless by mistake. undecided

I WRITE COMPLETE ANSWERS THAT COMPLETELY SOLVE PROBLEMS- ENABLING DIRECT CONTACT WITH GOD.

Have other answers provided this?

No, they have not.

You decide my Posts, and do not read them, because they lead to GOD.

You do not want to find GOD.

. MATTHEW 5:10-26.
10. "Blessed are they
which are Persecuted
for Righteousness' sake:
for theirs is
The Kingdom of Heaven.
11. "Blessed are ye,
when men shall Revile you,
and Persecute you,
and shall say
all manner of Evil
against you Falsely,
for my sake.
12. "Rejoice,
and be exceeding glad:
for great is your Reward in Heaven:
for so Persecuted they
The Prophets which were
before you.
13. "Ye are The Salt of the Earth:
but if the salt have lost
his savour,
wherewith shall it be salted?
It is thenceforth
good for nothing,
but to be cast out,
and to be trodden under foot
of men.
14. "Ye are The Light of the World.
A city that is set on an hill
cannot be hid.
15. "Neither do men
light a candle,
and put it under a bushel,
but on a candlestick;
and it giveth light unto all
that are in the house.
16. "Let your light
so shine before men,
that they may
see your Good Works,
and glorify your Father
Which is in Heaven.
17. "Think not that I am come
to destroy The Law,
or The Prophets:
I am not come to destroy,
but to fulfil.
18. "For verily I Say unto you,

'TILL HEAVEN AND EARTH PASS,
ONE JOT OR ONE TITTLE
SHALL IN NO WISE
PASS FROM THE LAW,
TILL ALL BE FULFILLED.'


19. "Whosoever therefore shall break
one of these least Commandments,
and shall teach men so,
he shall be called the least
in the Kingdom of Heaven:
but whosoever shall do
and teach them,
the same shall be called Great
in the Kingdom of Heaven.
20. "For I Say unto you,

'THAT EXCEPT
YOUR RIGHTEOUSNESS
SHALL EXCEED
THE RIGHTEOUSNESS
OF THE SCRIBES
AND PHARISEES,
YE SHALL IN NO CASE
ENTER INTO
THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN.'


21. "Ye have heard
that it was said
by them of Old Time,

'THOU SHALT NOT KILL;'

and

'WHOSOEVER SHALL KILL
SHALL BE IN DANGER
OF THE JUDGEMENT:


22. "But I Say unto you,

'THAT WHOSOEVER
IS ANGRY
WITH HIS BROTHER
WITHOUT A CAUSE
SHALL BE IN DANGER
OF THE JUDGMENT:


and whosoever shall say
to his Brother,

'RACA,'

shall be in Danger of the Council:
but whosoever shall say,

"THOU FOOL,"

shall be in Danger
of Hell Fire.

23. "Therefore if thou
bring thy Gift to the Altar,
and there rememberest
that thy Brother
hath ought against thee;
24. "Leave there thy Gift
before the Altar,
and go thy way;
first be reconciled
to thy Brother,
and then come
and offer thy Gift.
25. "Agree with thine
Adversary quickly,
whiles thou art
in the way with him;
lest at any time
the Adversary deliver thee
to the judge,
and the Judge deliver thee
to the Officer,
and thou be
cast into Prison.
26. "Verily I Say unto thee,

"THOU SHALT BY NO MEANS
COME OUT THENCE,
TILL THOU HAST PAID
THE UTTERMOST FARTHING.' "


In the future you will want God's Mercy.

You will be denied It, because of this foolishness.

Kobojunkie:

If engaging people and ideas is what you are here for, why not learn to do unto others .... undecided

WHAT HAS ANY OF THIS TO DO WITH THE LIKES OF YOU?

. JOHN 3:1-21.

THERE was a man of the Pharisees,
named Nicodemus,
a Ruler of the Jews:
2. The same came to Jesus
by night,
and said unto him,

"Rabbi, we know
that thou art a Teacher
come from God:
for no man can do
these Miracles
that thou doest,
except God be with him."

3. Jesus Answered
and Said unto him,

"Verily, verily,
I Say unto thee,

'EXCEPT A MAN
BE BORN AGAIN,
HE CANNOT SEE
THE KINGDOM OF GOD.'


4. Nicodemus saith unto him,

"How can a man be born
when he is old?
Can he enter the second time
into his mother's womb,
and be born?"

5. Jesus Answered,

"Verily, verily,
I Say unto thee,

'EXCEPT A MAN BE BORN
OF WATER AND OF THE SPIRIT,
HE CAN NOT ENTER INTO
THE KINGDOM OF GOD.'


6. "That which is Born
of the Flesh
is flesh;
and that which is Born
of The Spirit
is spirit.
7. "Marvel not
that I Said unto thee,

'YE MUST BE
BORN AGAIN.'


8. "The wind bloweth
where it listeth,
and thou hearest
the sound thereof,
but canst not tell
whence it cometh,
and whither it goeth:
so is every one
that is Born of The Spirit."

9. Nicodemus answered
and said unto him,

"How can these things be?"

10. Jesus Answered
and Said
unto him,

"Art thou a Master of Israel,
and knowest not
these things?
11. "Verily, verily,
I Say unto thee,

'WE SPEAK
THAT WE DO KNOW,
AND TESTIFY
THAT WE HAVE SEEN;
AND YE RECEIVE NOT
OUR WITNESS.'


12. "If I have told you
Earthly Things,
and ye believe not,
how shall ye believe,
if I tell you
of Heavenly Things?
13. "And no man
hath ascended up to Heaven,
but he that came down
from Heaven,
even The Son of Man
which is in Heaven.
14. "And as Moses lifted up
the Serpent in the Wilderness,
even so must The Son of Man
be lifted up:
15. "That whosoever
believeth in him
should not perish,
but have Eternal Life.
16. "For God so loved
the World,
that He gave
His only Begotten Son,
that whosoever
believeth in him
should not Perish,
but have Everlasting Life.
17. "For God sent not His Son
into the World
to Condemn the World;
but that the World through him
might be Saved.
18. "He that believeth in him
is not Condemned:
but he that believeth not
is Condemned Already,
because he hath not
believed in
The Name of The Only
Begotten Son of God.
19. "And this is The Condemnation,

'THAT LIGHT IS COME
INTO THE WORLD,
AND MEN LOVED DARKNESS
RATHER THAN LIGHT,
BECAUSE THEIR DEEDS
WERE EVIL.'


20. "For every one
that doeth Evil
hateth The Light,
neither cometh
to The Light,
lest his deeds
should be reproved.
21. "But he that doeth Truth
cometh to The Light,
that his deeds
may be manifest,
that they are
wrought in God."

"BORN AGAIN" IN NORTHERN ARAMAIC MEANS: "TO CHANGE ONE'S THOUGHTS AND HABITS." NICODEMUS SPOKE SOUTHERN ARAMAIC, AND HENCE DID NOT UNDERSTAND JESUS. [Footnote to JOHN 3:3,5 in the Lamsa Peshitta Bible.]

My Teachings are to help the Servants of my GOD- not you Servants of The Other Guy.

You do not understand, because you have no Right to understand.

. JOHN 21:14-25.

14. This is now the third time
that Jesus shewed himself
to his Disciples,
after that he was
Risen from the Dead.
15. So when they had dined,
Jesus Saith to Simon Peter,

"Simon, son of Jonas,
lovest thou me more than these?"

He saith unto him,

"Yea, Lord; thou knowest
that I love thee."

He Saith unto him,

"Feed my lambs."

16. He saith to him again
the second time,

"Simon, son of Jonas,
lovest thou me?"

He saith unto him,

"Yea, Lord;
thou knowest that I love thee."

He saith unto him,

"Feed my sheep."

17. He saith unto him
the third time,

"Simon, son of Jonas,
lovest thou me?"

Peter was grieved
because he said unto him
the third time,

"Lovest thou me?"

And he said unto him,

"Lord, thou knowest all things;
thou knowest that I love thee."

Jesus Saith unto him,

"Feed my sheep."

I AM NOT HERE TO FEED MAD DOGS INGRATES.

What I tell you is for the good of our people. What does your rudeness and unbelief serve?
Re: Isnt This A Ridiculous Teaching In Christianity? by Kobojunkie: 6:53pm On May 05, 2021
oaroloye:
MISHIGAS!

ou is for the good of our people. What does your rudeness and unbelief serve?
I can proudly confirm that I didn't bother reading any of what you cobbled up there since you continue to post unnecessarily long sermons onto your ego. undecided

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