Pharoh: ^^

This delusion is becoming so hilarious lol . . . . who born the state government of a multi ethnic state to tell the constituent ethnic group their identity?

Official my black feet lmao . . .

Haha! Do not be afraid, Your king say Ika is Igbo, your urhrobo, itsekiri, edo and ijaw neighbours say ika is igbo, your government say the same, and the Igbo tribes across the niger say the same, even the white colonialists said the same.

Seems like your journey back to bini will be sooner than expected. *grins*

Pharoh: ^^

Answer the damn question instead of bringing this your tired example of your wife over and over again.



No one is forcing Anioma on you so you can kindly cross over to the other side and join whoever you deem it fit are your brothers and sisters. You can't be this stupid to be asking me what Anioma is after 103 pages of discussion on this thread. So why not go back from page one and read up, little uncultured kids are the ones who throw up meaningless insult everywhere so grow up little fool.

NO YOU ARE WRONG PAHROH,YOU SHOULD JUMP OVER TO BINI KINGDOM.I AM SURE YOU WILL BE ACCEPTED THERE.

^^

Have seen any Anioma person here on this thread expressing his or her desire to join the Benin Kingdom?, we have always stated our ethnic identity here and where we belong to so keep on deluding yourself.

pazienza:


Haha! Do not be afraid, Your king say Ika is Igbo, your urhrobo, itsekiri, edo and ijaw neighbours say ika is igbo, your government say the same, and the Igbo tribes across the niger say the same, even the white colonialists said the same.

Seems like your journey back to bini will be sooner than expected. *grins*

Please provide documented evidence for each of your claim . . .the joke is on you if you don't know.

Pharoh: ^^

Have seen any Anioma person here on this thread expressing his or her desire to join the Benin Kingdom?, we have always stated our ethnic identity here and where we belong to so keep on deluding yourself.



Please provide documented evidence for each of your claim . . .the joke is on you if you don't know.

But then Anioma is not an Ethnic Group neither Ika is.Try to get that into your brains for once!

Pharoh: ^^

Have seen any Anioma person here on this thread expressing his or her desire to join the Benin Kingdom?, we have always stated our ethnic identity here and where we belong to so keep on deluding yourself.



Please provide documented evidence for each of your claim . . .the joke is on you if you don't know.

The joke is on you, if you have enough brain, you would have gone through this thread from the beginning, and if you did so, you would have seen Obi of owa's documented opinion on this issue, and you would have equally seen colonial documented opinions on this.

For a guy who wouldn't even accept Delta state government official take on the issue, i doubt you have any need for all those other documented official opinions. You are a joke.

olisaokere:

But then Anioma is not an Ethnic Group neither Ika is.Try to get that into your brains for once!

Show me where anyone said anioma is an ethnic group on this thread, cant you dig up the comment for everyone to see. Ika and Ukwuani are ethnic groups the same way isoko, benin, isan, itsekiri etc are their own ethnic group. Every ethnic group has its origin, we know when yoruba and igbo ethnic group started so there is nothing wrong if anioma becomes one tomorrow.

pazienza:

The joke is on you, if you have enough brain, you would have gone through this thread from the beginning, and if you did so, you would have seen Obi of owa's documented opinion on this issue, and you would have equally seen colonial documented opinions on this.

For a guy who wouldn't even accept Delta state government official take on the issue, i doubt you have any need for all those other documented official opinions. You are a joke.

When did personal opinion becomes fact or truth, a people are whatever they call themselves and no foreigner can do that for them. You are the biggest slowpoke i have ever seen here on this thread if that rubbish can be classified by your fish brain as official government documentation.

I challenge you to post the same information for all the local governments in delta state here right now or shut your dirty mouth. I can not believe in my widest dream that someone can be so foolish to post that trash as government documentation.

Pharoh: ^^

This delusion is becoming so hilarious lol . . . . who born the state government of a multi ethnic state to tell the constituent ethnic group their identity?

Official my black feet lmao . . .

With all due respect, you are the most incorrigible and daft person I have ever seen, I do know you are not an igbo, that’s not debatable, but what is debatable here is saying delta north aren’t igbo, that’s a big lie, you can believe all the lies that they cooked up for you, I do know that you are a child of benin remnants and descendant but with all due respect do not rope others into this your COLLOSAL IDENTITY CRISIS. I have given you tons of evidences, go take a walk ask other tribe which tribe is agbor then come back, its not how you view yourself that is imperative but how you are been viewed. Then the last thing I will ask is this. Just give me one place or event with references where any of the kings in delta north be it igwe,obi eze or okpala made it known publicly that they aint igbo… then I believe you. But if you cant do this simple assignment then you are a bloody liar.

Anioma origin and identity settled here in this link . .

http://www.aniomavoice.org/78-about-anioma-categ/8-origin-of-the-people

This is for ukwuani people

http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/ndokwa-the-people-and-their-burden/81676/

Pharoh:

Show me where anyone said anioma is an ethnic group on this thread, cant you dig up the comment for everyone to see. Ika and Ukwuani are ethnic groups the same way isoko, benin, isan, itsekiri etc are their own ethnic group. Every ethnic group has its origin, we know when yoruba and igbo ethnic group started so there is nothing wrong if anioma becomes one tomorrow.



When did personal opinion becomes fact or truth, a people are whatever they call themselves and no foreigner can do that for them. You are the biggest slowpoke i have ever seen here on this thread if that rubbish can be classified by your fish brain as official government documentation.

I challenge you to post the same information for all the local governments in delta state here right now or shut your dirty mouth. I can not believe in my widest dream that someone can be so foolish to post that trash as government documentation.

You are a waste of fluid, a pathetic excuse for a human being. In igboland, the Kings/ elders are the custodians of culture,tradition and history, i will take the submission of Obi of Owa on this issue, over that of a monkey with a goat brain like you. Anuofia, ewu bini!

So if I upload a page of porn or interview a crazy man does it make it credible.men this pharoah of a guy is daft. I asked for. A credible site that is authentic like government site or intellectual site you are giving me thisday shittt....do you even know that I am a researcher in an international media house and I know how we roll in media world.debating with you is an intellectual insult to me cos your just daft .now tell me a quote from just a king that say that anioma ain't igbo I believe you or tell me where oba of Benin said oh ika are my people bring them back to edo.I know your a son of assylum seeker from Benin .....stop disgracing sons of soil . Aturu enweghi uche dika gi

Pharoph is in a sorry state.I pity him do you know that the shitttt he gave as a refrence was written by a yoruba woman for that matter I was thinking itb was written by nduka the owner of that media house who is from ika. Men he is a disgrace not only to igbbos from delta pharoh is a disgrace to manhood. He choose to believe a yoruba woman not his kings,nor his government not colonial master he is confusing ika with ukwuani. I think his conception must be a. Mistake in natural selection. Aturu

Pharoh: ^^
Get out of my sight if you can't answer the damn question . . . we are done here as i do not have time for your meaningless points because reality will soon dawn on you.



Go back and read up little fool.

I don hear, na you com be big fool okwa ya? ANuofia

Pharoh: ^^

Have seen any Anioma person here on this thread expressing his or her desire to join the Benin Kingdom?, we have always stated our ethnic identity here and where we belong to so keep on deluding yourself.
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bros na by force to label anioma as an ethnic group?

I dont suport igbos in the east forcing Ikas to be igbos but i dont want anybody forcing me to be Anioma cos is just rubbish

Pharoh: Anioma origin and identity settled here in this link . .

http://www.aniomavoice.org/78-about-anioma-categ/8-origin-of-the-people

This is for ukwuani people

http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/ndokwa-the-people-and-their-burden/81676/

Thats a stupid write up pioneered by people who have self inflicted Identity crisis like you as we know that all online anioma groups are operated by those with Identity Crisis.the writer or contributors have seen probably how impossible it would be to label ANIOMA as non igbo,hence they came up with this write up to suite their stand.However,According to the write up,the writer acknowledged that ANIOMAS ARE IGBO,(excerpts:While we do not have to start breaking each community down by telling their ancestral origin, we want to admit that some communities in the present entity referred to as DELTA NORTH SENATORIAL ZONE, otherwise known as ANIOMA are IGBOS,which should not be in doubt).In order to also please some people like you with self identity crisis the write had to make mention of other communities with different ancestral origin[b](excerpts:we also want to use same proof to state that "some" of the communities also are BINIS,IGALAS,ISOKOS AND URHOBOS.)[/b]But however what we cannot accept is these immigrants or slaves from Bini like you PHAROH AND ABGOTAEN coming to portray ANIOMA as not an IGBO NATION.In Anambra state,there is about 9% Igala population and they are under Anambra state and they have not come to make Anambra look like NON IGBO STATE....Those that say they migrated from bini have failed to know that what they have is just an Oral Account and not a documented account of their migration.For a group of Bini Migrants/Slaves claiming to have found a town and lose their language is simply a HOAX.No Ika man speak Bini other than the one learnt.In Edo state,we have an Igbo town called IGBANKE which happened to be located in edo state during state creation.Now this people are marginalized because Edo state and its people do not see them as one of their own and that is the reason why this community wants to join back their kin and kiths in the proposed Anioma State.AND YOU STILL COME TO TELL ME THAT YOU MIGRATED FROM BINI.why are they not fighting for a relevance in the EDO State if they truly belong there.

The name ANIOMA is basically for Political purpose as the writer acknowledged but the writer with his narrow vision of political relevance all to suit interests of some people with this identity crisis have come to group communities in this ANIOMA and what they should be addressed as (Excerpts:We want to further state that,rather than address any part of this DELTA NORTH SENATORIAL ZONE entity as igbo,ukwuani or ika that we have acknowledged that we have namely: Igbos of Anioma, Ikas of Anioma, Ukwuanis of Anioma.For the communities that originated from IGBO, we shall prefer that they are addressed as The Igbos of Anioma, likewise the Ikas of Anioma and Ukwuanis of Anioma. ANIOMA SHALL REMAIN OUR COMPOUND NAME AND THE ONLY NAME WE WISH TO BE COLLECTIVELY ADDRESSED WITH.)

The writer have failed to point that not all ikas,ukwuanis have identity crisis so this whole thing is a complete waste of time.

And for your second link,Guess Mr Okecha has become the spokes man of Ndokwa.Make i hear word joor

I GAVE THEM LINKS FROM WEBSITE, GAVE THEM LINKS FROM DELTA STATE GOVERNMENT, GAVE THEM A LINK FROM COLONIALS, GAVE THEM LINKS FROM WIKIPEADIA... THEY STILL HARDENED THEIR HEART,THEN I ASKED THEM FOR JUST ONE THING..... THEY SHOULD GIVE ME JUST A LINK WHERE ANY KING FROM DELTA IGBO OFFICIALLY DISPUTED THE IGBONESS OF THEIR VILLAGE, OR WHERE OBA OF BENIN SAID THAT IKA ARE BENIN DESCENDANTS... THEN I BELIEVE...BUT IF NOT,I THINK I AM DONE WITH THESE IDENTITY CRISIS FELLOWS



WHERE IS PHARROAH,SUNNY4ALL , THEY HAVE REALISED THEIR STUPIDITY AND STOPPED POSTING NONSENSE NOW ITS THIS INCORRIGIBLE DAFTED PHAROAH LOL

olisaokere: And for your second link,Guess Mr Okecha has become the spokes man of Ndokwa.Make i hear word joor

That is our apex organization so i don't see the issue you are trying to raise with that, the position of an apex organization carries a very strong point. To you other response, you failed to see the fact that he never referred to all aniomas as igbos but only some communities in mostly aniocha/oshimili. We have already told you here that anioma is made up of igala, ika (benin+igbo), ukwuani, ulukwumi, enuani (or igbos ) and you cannot use one ethnic group to impose on the others.

Anioma is a collective name and within that name you can be whatever you want to be which include to be an igbo, ika, ukwuani, aboh or whatever you like and i don't see how this is a problem for you guys. Claiming anioma identity does not make us enemies as igbos of the east are still our brothers and closest families.

igbo boy:

bros na by force to label anioma as an ethnic group?

I dont suport igbos in the east forcing Ikas to be igbos but i dont want anybody forcing me to be Anioma cos is just rubbish

No one is forcing you to be anioma as you can be whatever you want to be within the anioma collective identity and that is the essence of the whole thing. The most important thing is that we share and cherish things that are unique to us, focus on some certain ideologies and outlook to life etc. The same way you claim to be a Nigerian, Biafran, African is the same way you will claim to an anioma so i don't see the fuse that you have been making all over the thread. There are igbos outside of Nigeria as there are igbos in anioma nationality and at the same time igbos existing in another nationality across the Niger.

The way we claim to be igbos, yorubas, hausas but we are still part of Nigeria and africa is the same way igbos, enuani, ikas, igala, ukwuani all come together to be under the anioma identity . People evolve and decide what they want to be, the most important thing is that we do not forget good relations with other people around us. If you don't want to be under the anioma identity then you are free to link up with igbos across the niger instead of imposing igbo on every other ethnic group within anioma. Telling you that you are anioma does not stop you from still being igbo in the same way that it does not stop an Ika or ukwuani man from being Ika and Ukwuani respectively.

The others can read those links i posted again ( carefully this time ) as it shows clearly that the message in those links is an eye opener and you can only resort to insult as usual.

Pharoh:

No one is forcing you to be anioma as you can be whatever you want to be within the anioma collective identity and that is the essence of the whole thing. The most important thing is that we share and cherish things that are unique to us, focus on some certain ideologies and outlook to life etc. The same way you claim to be a Nigerian, Biafran, African is the same way you will claim to an anioma so i don't see the fuse that you have been making all over the thread. There are igbos outside of Nigeria as there are igbos in anioma nationality and at the same time igbos existing in another nationality across the Niger.

The way we claim to be igbos, yorubas, hausas but we are still part of Nigeria and africa is the same way igbos, enuani, ikas, igala, ukwuani all come together to be under the anioma identity . People evolve and decide what they want to be, the most important thing is that we do not forget good relations with other people around us. If you don't want to be under the anioma identity then you are free to link up with igbos across the niger instead of imposing igbo on every other ethnic group within anioma. Telling you that you are anioma does not stop you from still being igbo in the same way that it does not stop an Ika or ukwuani man from being Ika and Ukwuani respectively.

Well ... i respect the way you laid it out here...

1. let me tell you igbo propagandists that the obi of owa that you trickishly quote as saying owa is igbo is bearing a benin name , called efeizomor .
2. this obi of owa is not a member of ohaneze ndigbo , you want to know why , ? it is because he believes he is an ika man and not an igbo man .
3. if you can recollect , it was obi efeizomor of owa that gave general muritala a safe refuge in owa kingdom and also led ika people to assist the nigeria army in expelling biafra from owa and ika land.
4. he was also a member of widwest leaders of though during the civil war and up till date he is a member of ogua/onu ika the highest socio- cultural body in ika ethnic nation.
5. if you read the book he published , he said that biafra wanted him dead or alive because of his stance that ika is not igbo and ika supported nigeria in their majority.
6. ika has never denied that igbos migrated into owa or ika land , but to deny benin is sacrilege , as we know that the first migrants into owa kingdom were were benin people from ikoha in ovia local govt of benin , they founded owa around the 6-7 th century , and they were led by adagba and later ugbasogun , all from benin, it was around the 12th century that edogun or odogun from ute came , and as at that time ute -had both benin and igbo migrants mixing and they came into owa kingdom , that has been dealth with in the book , owa and her monarch the most authoritative book written by owa consultative forum and our elders and professors , so consult the book , if you want to learn about towns and villages that make up owa and stop copying any article that supports your myopic claims about owa
7. owa people came from many places and so are ika people , some came from benin, ishan, ndokwa, igbo, ora , aniocha areas and even yoruba , we are a group of people that have lived and intermarried and formed an ethnicity called ika , we do not pretend to have come from the same place but we are now ika nation .
8.nduka obaigbena that one useless and kingless igbo man was abusing is a prince from owa kingdom , his grand father was obi seven ikoko obaigbena , who was the grand father of the present obi of owa , whose full names will read dr. emmanuel efeizomor obaigbena .
9. i am also of owa royal descendant as my ancestor prince omigie was a son of obi igbedigin no gidigan of owa kingdom , so i am quite away of my heritage .
10. in 1913 the british intelligence report said that owa has dual lineage of benin and igbo in her foundation , and it was also repeated in 1923 , the britsh also said owa is a result of interrations between benin and nri -igbo , and this interraction has brough a new kingdom and a new tribe called ika , who are neither igbo or benin .
11. i dont know why igbos are mounting a uselless propaganda on the internet , why dont they try and convince majority of ika kings , leaders and people to agree that they are igbo and also join their ohaneze ndigbo , internet no go help you , if you go ika go say them be igbo , they will give you dirty slap .
12. ika is unique and we are never under any ethnic group though igbos and benins have tried and failled to bring ika under their ethnicity -----------
1. in 1930 the benins told the british that ika was part of benin and that benins own ika but our fathers wrote to the british and they declared that ika is not a part of any ethnicity in nigeria and so the ikas fought and were left alone.
2. the igbos also came in 1967 , during the civil war and said ika was part of igbo with some conivance of some igbodo and ekuoma people whose ancestors probably migrated from igboland ,but the vast majority of ikas , with obi of owa, he obi of agbor , obi of umunede , abavo and others ika men assisted the federal troops to chase biafra out of ika and they also declared that ika has never been part of igbo , end of story .
13. igbos should learn to respect people and not brandish their so called population , that is why ibibios, efiks and ijaws and others deserted them , a nearness in language does not mean two tribes that speak similar language are thesame , it only shows interaction and moreover igbo was founded by the help of the british , it did not exist as a tribe 250 years ago .
isoko and uhrobo speak close languages yet they are different tribes , the uhrobos did not say we are more than the isokos so we must claim them,
itsekiri and yoruba speak a close language , yet they are seperate tribes , also bini and esan are seperate , so igbo and ika are also seperate , let igbos learn to respect people and stop being proud and arrogant.

i thank god , i am an ika man , onukokome ogbuofifi, onu iboze igbo arasaka gi ika gbe akpakali , iseh.

I'm "Ika" (from Umunede), when I read how Umunede kingdom was formed, the founding father was from Bini kingdom. Historical fact also portrayed how the Igbos came from riverine areas (onitsha and neigbhouring villages) to trade in Umunede, I guess that resulted to inter-ethnic marriages and similarities in language. (I guess this true becos it also happen between me and my siblings, we code-mix Yoruba language with our mother-tongue while communicating simply becos we were born and breed in Lagos).
The adopting of Igbo names among Ika people I believe was becos through Igbo, christianity was introduced in umunede Kingdom. Igbos name is more christian-like, compared to our native name (real Ika name) that is of bini gods/idol (osunbor, osemenim, oshimihin, idumuoba, ileje, isawe, egbetimeh etc). I was fortunate to meet my grand grand mother to be frank with you, she never calls God Chukwu instead she calls God "Oselobuwa", is that not bini way of calling God

chux4liv: I'm "Ika" (from Umunede), when I read how Umunede kingdom was formed, the founding father was from Bini kingdom. Historical fact also portrayed how the Igbos came from riverine areas (onitsha and neigbhouring villages) to trade in Umunede, I guess that resulted to inter-ethnic marriages and similarities in language. (I guess this true becos it also happen between me and my siblings, we code-mix Yoruba language with our mother-tongue while communicating simply becos we were born and breed in Lagos).
The adopting of Igbo names among Ika people I believe was becos through Igbo, christianity was introduced in umunede Kingdom. Igbos name is more christian-like, compared to our native name (real Ika name) that is of bini gods/idol (osunbor, osemenim, oshimihin, idumuoba, ileje, isawe, egbetimeh etc).

Same silly logic everyday. Would you say that Ondos are not Yorubas because of no Yoruba sounding names there e.g Agagu?. Even in my home town, we have some non sounding Igbo names there without a meaning today yet we do not disclaim Igbo. I know one family with the surname Govu, yet it doesn't sound Igbo.
The Christians didn't use Igbo language in evangelism in Okrika, Ogoni, Ikot Ekpenye etc that are near Igboland because they are not Igbos. If Christians used Igbo in your village that means you are Igbo. this your logic is brainless as other posters like you have done here.

It is ill logic to say that the traditional ruler of a town has a bini name hence the people are bini..
Nobody can deny the influence of the Benin empire on the Western Igbos..

It is true if you look back some of the traditional rulers in delta state where either Bini or had Bini name.

Just like Luggard was the ruler of Nigeria and other oyibo people after him till we Nigeria got independece. The same way britain sent their people to Lord over conquered territories is no different the Bini sent their chiefs to Lord over conquered territories. So when you look at the history of some igbo town and you say that oh, the first ruler was Oba efe omorogie hence the people in the town are of Bini ancestry that shows that people like agboanten are ignorant...

The ruling elites were usually not from the town and those that were, tried their best to assimilate to the overall kingdom's way of life...

The first ruler of Nigeria was a british man, i guess we are british smh.

does not make sense to me that ika are from bini and now they have lost their bini way of life...

i wonder if most of these our western igbo brothers do think well before vomiting most things they say here
how can binis drop their language for igbo yet other tribes who share border with ndigbo still maintan their own languges?it dosent sum up at all,igalla people have been inter-marrying and trading with ndi-anambra from time immemorial but today igalas still speak their native igala language
they are ready to present their grandparents names as proof they are not igbos yet their towns name is as igbo as igbo can be
bull-crap

oturugo:
Same silly logic everyday. Would you say that Ondos are not Yorubas because of no Yoruba sounding names there e.g Agagu?. Even in my home town, we have some non sounding Igbo names there without a meaning today yet we do not disclaim Igbo. I know one family with the surname Govu, yet it doesn't sound Igbo.
The Christians didn't use Igbo language in evangelism in Okrika, Ogoni, Ikot Ekpenye etc that are near Igboland because they are not Igbos. If Christians used Igbo in your village that means you are Igbo. this your logic is brainless as other posters like you have done here.

It's not logic , Professor over-sabi, I only gave you a linage of the kingdom, If you like take it or you leave it.. Whether you call me Igbo or Hause, its inconsequential but my root I will never forsake. Even though Joesph on the bible was made governor in Egypt, he never forsake his linage.
Bini kingdom has many clan with different dialect, the bini, Esan, Auchi, Ebira, Ibilo, Ika, Okpamheri, Edo.
Sincerely speaking this fact below I believe;
1. Western civilization came to Ika via Igbos
2. In as much we have igbo languages in our mother tongues so also we have bini languages too
3. Our culture and tradition has 75% bini tradition both in dressing and mode of ancestral linage
4. If it's believe that the Igbos seek refuge in bini Kingdom, then I can ascertain that Ika is a mixture of Igbos/bini, becos a prince in bini kingdom must supercede his fathers territory
5. If you call me Igbo (that I can claim due to the language) there is no problem but our history has always been rooted from bini unless u prove otherwise.

chux4liv: I'm "Ika" (from Umunede), when I read how Umunede kingdom was formed, the founding father was from Bini kingdom. Historical fact also portrayed how the Igbos came from riverine areas (onitsha and neigbhouring villages) to trade in Umunede, I guess that resulted to inter-ethnic marriages and similarities in language. (I guess this true becos it also happen between me and my siblings, we code-mix Yoruba language with our mother-tongue while communicating simply becos we were born and breed in Lagos).
The adopting of Igbo names among Ika people I believe was becos through Igbo, christianity was introduced in umunede Kingdom. Igbos name is more christian-like, compared to our native name (real Ika name) that is of bini gods/idol (osunbor, osemenim, oshimihin, idumuoba, ileje, isawe, egbetimeh etc). I was fortunate to meet my grand grand mother to be frank with you, she never calls God Chukwu instead she calls God "Oselobuwa", is that not bini way of calling God

height of stupidity....is your grand father stupid that they named all the IKAS igbo name and they didn't object....did igbos foist or force their language on them ....you guys are daft. your grandfather must be confused so is you his grandson. what is the name of your king,what do you call your market days. we still call God osebuluwa till tomorrow. iGBOS MUST BE THE BEST COLONIALIST IN HISTORY WE COLONIZE THE SPIRITUAL AND THE PHYSICAL AND PSYCHOLOGICAL. IDENTITY CRISIS

chux4liv:

It's not logic , Professor over-sabi, I only gave you a linage of the kingdom, If you like take it or you leave it.. Whether you call me Igbo or Hause, its inconsequential but my root I will never forsake. Even though Joesph on the bible was made governor in Egypt, he never forsake his linage.
Bini kingdom has many clan with different dialect, the bini, Esan, Auchi, Ebira, Ibilo, Ika, Okpamheri, Edo.
Sincerely speaking this fact below I believe;
1. Western civilization came to Ika via Igbos
2. In as much we have igbo languages in our mother tongues so also we have bini languages too
3. Our culture and tradition has 75% bini tradition both in dressing and mode of ancestral linage
4. If it's believe that the Igbos seek refuge in bini Kingdom, then I can ascertain that Ika is a mixture of Igbos/bini, becos a prince in bini kingdom must supercede his fathers territory
5. If you call me Igbo (that I can claim due to the language) there is no problem but our history has always been rooted from bini unless u prove otherwise.

lost soul neither Benin or igbo

chux4liv:

It's not logic , Professor over-sabi, I only gave you a linage of the kingdom, If you like take it or you leave it.. Whether you call me Igbo or Hause, its inconsequential but my root I will never forsake. Even though Joesph on the bible was made governor in Egypt, he never forsake his linage.
Bini kingdom has many clan with different dialect, the bini, Esan, Auchi, Ebira, Ibilo, Ika, Okpamheri, Edo.
Sincerely speaking this fact below I believe;
1. Western civilization came to Ika via Igbos
2. In as much we have igbo languages in our mother tongues so also we have bini languages too
3. Our culture and tradition has 75% bini tradition both in dressing and mode of ancestral linage
4. If it's believe that the Igbos seek refuge in bini Kingdom, then I can ascertain that Ika is a mixture of Igbos/bini, becos a prince in bini kingdom must supercede his fathers territory
5. If you call me Igbo (that I can claim due to the language) there is no problem but our history has always been rooted from bini unless u prove otherwise.

lost soul neither Benin or igbo

igbo boy: It is ill logic to say that the traditional ruler of a town has a bini name hence the people are bini..
Nobody can deny the influence of the Benin empire on the Western Igbos..

It is true if you look back some of the traditional rulers in delta state where either Bini or had Bini name.

Just like Luggard was the ruler of Nigeria and other oyibo people after him till we Nigeria got independece. The same way britain sent their people to Lord over conquered territories is no different the Bini sent their chiefs to Lord over conquered territories. So when you look at the history of some igbo town and you say that oh, the first ruler was Oba efe omorogie hence the people in the town are of Bini ancestry that shows that people like agboanten are ignorant...

The ruling elites were usually not from the town and those that were, tried their best to assimilate to the overall kingdom's way of life...

The first ruler of Nigeria was a british man, i guess we are british smh.

does not make sense to me that ika are from bini and now they have lost their bini way of life...

Well said.

tonychristopher:


lost soul neither Benin or igbo

I don't know why you're getting insulting over an issue that doesn't concern you... Ohhh, you're Igbo right and you are getting ripped-off becos the Ika ppl dont wanna claim Igbo ( Igbos like dominating ..just as they tussle for Lagos by saying it's a no man's land) Sorry oo, the way u are getting paranoid u may start punching the keyboard button to show your frustration.
Anyway, I guess u're hiding behind the screen of ur computer-system so why the attention (you could be a teen who knows ). This is my last message for you, I don't mingle words with peanut brain like you. I've got more important things to do than argue with u nincompoop ... you're a SCHNOOK,SCHMOES & SCHMUCK!!!

*Jet out of this Igbo ridiculed thread*