MuttleyLaff:
I dont know what you're with "always this tedious process of question and answer to stuff you are well aware of" talking about.
What secrets and/or issues of yours am I well aware of?

If for the former, maybe my account was hacked
however about the latter, I didnt forget about what I wrote how I am, I just didnt know what evidence for the things you were asking for

LordReed:
When you figure it out, call on me.

MuttleyLaff:
www.nairaland.com/attachments/7739160_dxod8xmw0ae5on9_jpeg_jpeg8e37ba4a61ed70dab54583346ae2c26a
Call on yourself, as I'll rather watch paint dry
or go pick up leaves off my lawn

LordReed:
LoL, stop engaging in stuff you cannot follow through. You say there is evidence, I say produce it then you ask what evidence? If you can't keep up with your own statements why do you bother to engage at all?

MuttleyLaff:
Your case is seeing a signed painting in an art gallery and still saying there is no artist behind the painting

MuttleyLaff:
Your case is seeing a signed painting in an art gallery and still saying there is no artist behind the painting

budaatum:
Artists stand behind their paintings?
QCan't wait to go behind to talk to Picasso!

MuttleyLaff:
There you go misrepresenting what I typed in order to fit whatever the agenda is.
I didn't use ''stand" at all in my remark.

LordReed:


So the fact that someone is always disgusted by the smell of shit implies the person would love to eat shit? LoLz! See logic.

Primesky:


Please what is the sense and logic in your post?. Can you read it again and make sure you understand what you typed?, I think you might have made some logical errors, Or otherwise educate me. No offence intended.

Primesky:

The inability of those who claim atheism to abstain from anything God, is in itself a proof that God truly exist, .

LordReed:


Actually, I am following your logic.

Primesky:


Please make sense of your post and stop the sacasim.

budaatum:
You said they were behind the painting on the wall in a gallery. You ever been to the National Gallery? I suppose they can be sitting. I should have asked and not just assume. My bad.

Please Muttley, is the artist that is behind the picture in a gallery standing, sitting or laid down behind the picture?

eventtinz:
Only one problem with the painting painter argument. This is the first and only one.

MuttleyLaff:
All that's required is the first and only one masterpiece

The painting didnt paint itself
The world is a canvass stretched before the Painter painted all that's from His mind on the canvass

LordReed:
And he paints misery and suffering?
He paints disease, catastrophe and disaster?

LordReed:
He paints a hell for eternal torment?

LordReed:
This from the mind of a perfect being?

MuttleyLaff:
He never painted misery and suffering or disease, catastrophe and disaster on His canvass.

You and I know how, when, where and why misery and suffering or disease, catastrophe and disaster got painted on His canvass

When are you going to re-learn that, hell means Sheol also known as grave
and that eternal torment is part of experience lusted after, as a result of eating off the TKG&E?

I guess your mind is better
and/or you know another's mind thats better than the perfect Being's.

LordReed:
Then why is it here?

LordReed:
So he is not powerful enough to stop it?

LordReed:
What type of being is he?

LordReed:
LoL! I will indulge you in your fairytale explanation of a big bad monster.

LordReed:
So this your painter is unable to stop big bad monster from ruining his painting?
Such a rich story. LMFAO!

LordReed:
Yeah it totally makes sense to eternally off people because they ate a fruit.
Such sanity from this guy.

LordReed:
Yes if this is the best you think a rational being can aspire too.
If you cannot imagine a world without all of the suffering and misery, that's on you, I certainly can.
And given the powers attributed to this perfect being it would have been very very very possible.
But I guess when your brain is twisted by fairy tales,
making excuses for beings capable of perpetuating misery and suffering is par for the course.

LordReed:


No sarcasm at all, that is the same premise you follow on with your statement.

MuttleyLaff:
Emergent phenomenon

Stopping it will defeat the purpose(s)
Why not allow it to do its worst,

The type of being more than you can fully understand

I dont know where and how you got the idea of a big bad monster from
but if that keeps the smile on your face then continue to amuse yourself with it

There is a method in the madness. LMFAO Bwahahahaha ha.

What does "eternally off people" sic means?
Wasnt the name of the tree self-descriptive, that the fruit came from?
Wasnt a warning given about what will happen once the fruit is eaten?

I bet you're going to let me know you or other humans are incombustible.
Why not learn and know that, the word, eternally, is used to have a rhetorical effect

Dont be too much in a haste, there'll be world without all of the suffering and misery, soon or later.
Watch this page and dont blink, or else, you'll miss it. Kikikiki ki.

Primesky:


OK, if you say so. But I do not really understand what you were trying to communicate.

But for me, this is what the one who died and rose again, and is still alive, Jesus Christ, the Son of God said:

John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

To have Jesus Christ is to have everything. To live and die without Him is an unimaginable terror!. This is a simple but powerful truth. Well, you may not see to believe it, but a whole lot have had the opportunity to see what await those who don't believe in Him, even when they did not believe it, and their testimony agrees with the scriptures. I have seen, but my testimony is not what you necessarily have to believe. The bible is very true and correct, and is sufficient. I wish God will open your eyes to see it too, but it's not a must neither is it a guarantee. So, do not see it as mere religious talk, or feel like someone is insulting your sense of reasoning. This is an undeniable reality.

Dying without Jesus Christ is a hopeless future filled with indescribable terror. Repent and receive Jesus Christ and be saved. It's not fear mongering either, but the truth!. Shalom.

MuttleyLaff:
Your case is seeing a signed painting in an art gallery and still saying there is no artist behind the painting

LordReed:
And that excuses him how?

LordReed:
7000 years of misery, suffering, dead and dying people is not the worst yet? Wow!

LordReed:
Yep, I won't understand why you think a being that promotes suffering is good.

LordReed:
Well that's what your fairy tale says, doesn't it?

LordReed:
At least we agree on one thing, your painter guy is mad. LMAO!

LordReed:
Yep, I won't understand why you think a being that promotes suffering is good.

LordReed:
Well that's what your fairy tale says, doesn't it?

LordReed:
Yes, telling someone they'll die because they ate a fruit makes a lot of sense (not!).
You tell your children you love, that if they eat that cake you put tantalisingly within their reach, they'll die.
Such a good parent you are (not!).

LordReed:
So your painter guy cannot communicate effectively?

LordReed:
According to you, 7000+ years of human misery is too soon. LoLz!

budaatum:
The issue isn't quite whether there is a painter behind a painting,
but whether there is a painting to start with, and which painter may be behind it.

MuttleyLaff:
Well done.
After I have given you the reasons, you've changed your tune from "Then why is it here?" to "And that excuses him how?"

Yup, 7000 is a small price to pay
and is nothing compare to eternal bliss, tranquility, happiness, joy, calm, peace and untroubledness

Like you dont let your adorable kid suffer for what you know, is good for the kid and kid's sake. Huh?

I am not familiar with this your alleged fairy tale
Whats the fairy tale called?

Though I am not mad, I sometimes do mad and/or crazy things.
Besides that, there is madness in the method, I wrote, not that the painter guy is mad
So please refrain from twisting and misrepresenting what I typed

That's the way the cookie crumbles.
Do you at all know how character is formed?

The Painter Guy is a suave and effective master communicator

It'll be for as long as it'll take, for as long as it is necessary

LordReed:
What are you on about?
Is the emergent phenomenon out of his control?
How does it absolve him of complicity?

LordReed:
Yeah 7000+ years of people dying is small. Get a load of this guy.
You have such a disdain for your fellow man that the deaths of billions is small in your sight.
No wonder you believe in a sick god figure.

LordReed:
Let my kid suffer a disease?
A missing limb or organ? Mental illness?
No sir, I am not a wicked parent.

LordReed:
One of them is called the Bible.

LordReed:
Well I guess we differ on the meaning of madness.
If for you letting billions die in pain and misery is sanity, sorry I mischaracterized this, you are the mad one actually.

LordReed:
If you are dumb enough to let your children suffer disease, misery and death as a lesson,
no court of law will give you a heavy enough sentence to befit your crime.

LordReed:
If teachers taught this way we'd sack them immediately.

LordReed:
This is unbelieveable.
Is this a human being typing this or a robot? SMH

MuttleyLaff:
The world is a canvass
Everything until the work, was a blank canvass

budaatum:

Next time anyone tells me God is an uncaused uncaused, or however they put it, I'm quoting you!

God is Mary's son. She named him Jesus.

MuttleyLaff:
You wouldnt be asking me this, if you had jẹjẹly answered the below repeated question, I earlier asked:
"Do you, at all, know how character is formed?"
Now tell, how is character formed?

My fellow man is worth dying for
and the perfect Person to do just that, has.
What's a more and better consideration and/or respect for a fellow man than that?
Unbounded love, magnanimity, altruism, ungrudging kindness in action
What can beat that?

Who is talking of let kid suffer a disease, a missing limb, organ or mental illness?
Glad you dont see yourself to be a wicked parent, so dont suggest otherwise to another you know nothing about

What's the others?

So, you asked:
"So your painter guy cannot communicate effectively?"

but when I replied:
"The Painter Guy is a suave and effective master communicator"

You now, switch to:
"If teachers taught this way we'd sack them immediately."

Confused.com hasnt got your number nor anything on you.
Keep up the calumny and slander work

Do you know what is really unbelievable?
Its reading you not being informed but being plain just presumptuous
and having an exaggerated sense of yourself, value and importance

LordReed:
How about you answer my own question first before you ask me another.

LordReed:
How about not requiring death in the first place?
How about building the perfect trouble free world you'd have us believe is in the after life before all the nonsense your fairy tale said happened?

LordReed:
Then don't make disgusting allusions.
Telling me all the suffering in this world is comparable to a parent disciplining their children.
Only sick people think that suffering of that magnitude is how a child should be treated.

LordReed:
The Quran, the Book of Mormon, Tales by Moonlight, Cinderella, etc.

LordReed:
You sir are the confused party here.
Teachers try their best to communicate effectively, their joy being their students aceing their exams
but your paint guy is playing hide and seek while still requiring people to ace the ultimate exam.
Here you are telling me he is suave. LoL.
Damn this is delusion at its finest.

LordReed:
LoL, I don't believe your fairy tales doesn't mean I don't know its contents.
I only point out how much like a fairy tale it is. LMFAO!