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Re: Should Nigerian Government Regulate Childbirth Like The Chinese? by Jman06(m): 3:34am On Sep 03, 2018 |
That should only be in the north. Here in the south we already have many factors regulating childbirth such as late marriage. |
Re: Should Nigerian Government Regulate Childbirth Like The Chinese? by resurgent2019: 3:43am On Sep 03, 2018 |
Jiang: I am Yoruba. You think it is only igbos that can’t stand the illiteracy and backwardness of you northerners in Nigeria? Like I said, southerners will be free from the North sometime soon. |
Re: Should Nigerian Government Regulate Childbirth Like The Chinese? by resurgent2019: 3:46am On Sep 03, 2018 |
IbnAbdullah1: Continue lying to yourself that you are a southerner. Even southern Muslims can’t think like you think. We shall be free even if it involves war. |
Re: Should Nigerian Government Regulate Childbirth Like The Chinese? by SirToothBrush: 4:32am On Sep 03, 2018 |
wirinet:lol you definitely didn't catch the joke. Am far from religious |
Re: Should Nigerian Government Regulate Childbirth Like The Chinese? by raumdeuter: 6:47am On Sep 03, 2018 |
IbnAbdullah1: Then if the person becomes rich, he can have more. Having children without resources to car for them is evil |
Re: Should Nigerian Government Regulate Childbirth Like The Chinese? by Angrymode: 6:51am On Sep 03, 2018 |
YEAH, AY, YEP AND YES |
Re: Should Nigerian Government Regulate Childbirth Like The Chinese? by alezzy13: 7:00am On Sep 03, 2018 |
Jman06: Keep deceiving yourself. While I agree it's more pronounced in the north, the problem of population cuts across all zones, and I'm speaking as one who has travelled widely. Check our stats for total fertility rate. |
Re: Should Nigerian Government Regulate Childbirth Like The Chinese? by alezzy13: 7:11am On Sep 03, 2018 |
IbnAbdullah1: Guys pls stop this trash. No one is saying poor people shouldn't have children, but they have a manageable number. Yes there are some rich spoilt children who become nuisances (eg cultists) but the fact remains that a majority of them are from poor families who no opportunity to empower themselves. Imagine a case where a guys knocks at your door by 6am like he about to break it down. What's the problem? Oh sorry he says, my wife just put to bed and doesn't have N500 to pay the local birth attendant. And that's not the worst of it, the man already has a BATTALION of children at home. Almost none at school. This is not a made up story. It happens almost eveyday. Until we deal with the population issue especially if you have very poor source of income then the poverty issue will never abate |
Re: Should Nigerian Government Regulate Childbirth Like The Chinese? by Nobody: 7:11am On Sep 03, 2018 |
resurgent2019: Why do you make it seem like we are forcing you to stay, you can just leave, or collude with Biafrans to make your own country, I really do not care,
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Re: Should Nigerian Government Regulate Childbirth Like The Chinese? by omoelerin1: 7:11am On Sep 03, 2018 |
dominique:It is you people in the cities that have a lot of problems. Let them regulate their birth rate. Rural areas are not suffering from over population. In fact, one of their major problems is under population. So, leave us alone. Who is government, to be deciding the number of children they should be having. After all, most of rural areas in Nigeria do not feel the existence of govt. |
Re: Should Nigerian Government Regulate Childbirth Like The Chinese? by Nobody: 7:15am On Sep 03, 2018 |
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Re: Should Nigerian Government Regulate Childbirth Like The Chinese? by omoelerin1: 7:29am On Sep 03, 2018 |
This op is very stupid and a tribal bigot. Northerners are not giving birth for the purpose of political domination as you want us to believe. It is more or less a social cultural thing. |
Re: Should Nigerian Government Regulate Childbirth Like The Chinese? by Tundeobama(m): 7:29am On Sep 03, 2018 |
gnykelly:you so dumb why do you think much poverty is peculiar to state with parents that give birth to children you can't provide food clothing and shelter?why do you think wester worlds check population through emigration and birth control.All this primary school drop out.I guess you always happy seeing Almajiri on the streetFor every child you give birth to and you cannot provide for making him criminal God will punish your likes. 1 Like |
Re: Should Nigerian Government Regulate Childbirth Like The Chinese? by Tundeobama(m): 7:44am On Sep 03, 2018 |
dragon2:nobody needs to tell me you are olodo who never attended Economics class before.Before USA increase in population Gdp must be able care for the current population.Nigeria is increasing with Gdp and infrastructure that can only cater for less than 90million,making 87million live in abject poverty. 1 Like |
Re: Should Nigerian Government Regulate Childbirth Like The Chinese? by revolt(m): 7:45am On Sep 03, 2018 |
Its not just common sense. Even the eco system has devised means for population control ie herbivores always beside water surrounded by good(resources)and CARNIVORES; with scavengers lurking by . If africa needs to move forward its not just population control we require. We need a EUGENIC movement. There are certain ppl that are less productive than the rest. We select the progressive ppl and boost their population and greatly reduce the retrogrates. |
Re: Should Nigerian Government Regulate Childbirth Like The Chinese? by Ugosample(m): 7:47am On Sep 03, 2018 |
dominique: Nigerians (ignorant ones anyways) will be blaming northerners alone for this child breeding madness, but its a national issue, especially in rural areas I have seen this fvckery a lot during my little tour of southern Nigeria Women with 7, 8, even 9 kids and they are not even up to 44 I even have a village aunty with 12 kids We need to set up a covert operation to sterilize a lot of people in Nigeria /Africa before our society becomes something else desperate times desperate measures 1 Like |
Re: Should Nigerian Government Regulate Childbirth Like The Chinese? by masseratti: 7:47am On Sep 03, 2018 |
dragon2:I don't know where you get your statistics from but US has more oil than you think, the oil firms are owned by private entities who pay tax to the state and federal government, not having enough crude does not mean its not getting money from what she is producing, let me break it down for you like a 5years old USA produce 11million barrels per day for a population of 350 million, Nigeria does 2 million barrels per day for a population of 180 million, American produce 5 times what we produce for double our population. UK population density? That's largely due to migration and the UK also has oil in the North Sea, the UK is not more than the size of South West Nigeria, Taiwan is not bigger than lagos and ogún state together, their population density is understandable, Nigerian case is total mess. |
Re: Should Nigerian Government Regulate Childbirth Like The Chinese? by Ugosample(m): 7:50am On Sep 03, 2018 |
gnykelly: then they should set up a covert agency to sterilize these deplorables, like it's done in some countries we can't continue like this |
Re: Should Nigerian Government Regulate Childbirth Like The Chinese? by Ugosample(m): 7:53am On Sep 03, 2018 |
Vizzy4u: not everyone here is an "indomie generation" And I see you are aboki from the Hausa you spoke Anyways, if you are well to do, you can have more kids you can take care of if you like. But as for the almajiri and deplorables, their population needs to be checked |
Re: Should Nigerian Government Regulate Childbirth Like The Chinese? by Ugosample(m): 7:55am On Sep 03, 2018 |
lefulefu: you got that right 1 Like |
Re: Should Nigerian Government Regulate Childbirth Like The Chinese? by banio: 8:00am On Sep 03, 2018 |
It is a good idea and an ideal one to regulate everything including number of children. But Can Nigeria Government ever be responsible to us. There are so many things to regulate in Nigeria: crude oil theft and bunkering, sooth everywhere in Niger delta due to illegal refining, casualisation in oil and gas etc. Can the government regulate anything ? |
Re: Should Nigerian Government Regulate Childbirth Like The Chinese? by Ugosample(m): 8:15am On Sep 03, 2018 |
IbnAbdullah1: they have reversed it because they have achieved their aim. Their population over the decades have peaked and balanced, and at the same time, they are now well off. But then, even after that, the culture of having less children has been inculcated in the Chinese already, so the law has achieved the aim. so the law can be scrapped |
Re: Should Nigerian Government Regulate Childbirth Like The Chinese? by MissWrite(f): 8:20am On Sep 03, 2018 |
Yes, I think child-bearing should be regulated in Nigeria. There are just too many children left destitute on the streets these days; and increase in crime is often a consequence of that. People should be prohibited from irresponsible procreation. However, the government must do its own bit before it can even conceive of such a decree. The reasons many Unenlightened Nigerians have so many children are: one, children are their pension plan. The more children they have, the greater the chances of at least one being successful enough to take care of them in their old age; two, skewed-religiosity, resistance to family planning, and ignorance (or may be they are one and the same). Some people believe that the womb is an orifice opened by God whenever he wishes to visit an unsuspecting family with children, and that they should not have any influence over the issue. They dance to Genesis 1:28 and fail to heed 1 Timothy 5:8; three, hypocritical abortion laws. I will not expatiate on this controversial subject; plus, a lot of people wear children like an emblem or a testament of their virility/fertility. If they don't have them, they fear that their 'enemies' would have a good laugh believing that their case was safe with the devil. So, in order to shut them up, they ensure people can see how dearly they are loved by God by having as many children as possible. I think this comes down to values. Thankfully, things are already beginning to change with education. Young parents are approaching the issue more intelligently these days. They think about the financial commitment (in school fees especially) because they accept their responsibility. Gone (or going) are the days when it was the norm to send your children away to be raised by well-off distant relatives or even absolute strangers. We are gradually departing from the extended-family style of living and adopting the nuclear model. Whatever the responsible factor for this is, is a different matter. But, enlightened young parents are cutting their coat according to their size where child-bearing is concerned. While we evidently need to provide proper education, we desperately need a better scheme for providing some form of economic security to reduce the pressure to procreate, before we can expect people to curtail their child-bearing. Right now, it's a catch22, because you have the growing population complicating the effort to provide a more secure environment, and a population that needs to procreate to increase its chances of providing security in old age because of dire economic conditions. Something has to give. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Should Nigerian Government Regulate Childbirth Like The Chinese? by Ugosample(m): 8:27am On Sep 03, 2018 |
Gerrard59: help me tell them o |
Re: Should Nigerian Government Regulate Childbirth Like The Chinese? by Ugosample(m): 8:31am On Sep 03, 2018 |
resurgent2019: Having so many kids is a national issue, not just an aboki thing Even we from the east know that in the villages, our aunties there dey born like rat Otherwise how do you explain our ethnic group being the second most populous in Nigeria despite the land mass of the SE, and the fact that our people were kidnapped in theyr millions to b sold as slaves We need a NATIONAL POLICY to stem this tide or we will regret in the next 30 yrs |
Re: Should Nigerian Government Regulate Childbirth Like The Chinese? by bongolistik(m): 8:34am On Sep 03, 2018 |
VeeVeeMyLuv:That is exactly what made it complex, reason you used the word "extreme" 1 Like |
Re: Should Nigerian Government Regulate Childbirth Like The Chinese? by dragon2(m): 9:14am On Sep 03, 2018 |
Tundeobama: You have exposed the fact that you are suffering from 'Dutch disease'. "GDP must be able to care for current population"? Is GDP free food? Do you not know what the "P" in GDP means? It means Product,the result of labour of some sort,not free oil. if Nigerias' GDP can cater for only a small population is it the problem of population or low productivity of the people? If we cut the population will productivity rise? No. Nigerians will indeed get richer with a smaller population but will not get more productive like the UK or US. The are a lot of able bodied young productive men/women moving about aimlessly looking for work.That is productive capacity going to waste.Is it due to High Population or poor Government policy on Economic Growth.The lack of factories in Nigeria,is it due to population? In a productive country,each person adds to the GDP and wealth through some form of employment. Inversely,in a resource based country like Nigeria suffering from Dutch disease, each individual subtracts from wealth(oil) and does not add to production. Again, cutting the population will make us richer,but not more productive.That is why even though Monaco's GDP per capita is more than twice the US,the US is economically more powerful than Monaco. The comments here about reduction in population is all about increasing individual wealth from oil not GDP production. That is a Lazy man's solution to economic problems. Cut our population and the GDP will remain the same,that is proof we are unproductive. |
Re: Should Nigerian Government Regulate Childbirth Like The Chinese? by dragon2(m): 9:38am On Sep 03, 2018 |
masseratti: Let me enlighten you. The 11 Mbpd the US makes is for the internal economy of the US. i.e. for economic growth,not export. Like fertilizer for a farmer. The 2 Mbpd that Nigeria Generates is NOT for the internal economy. Nigeria is like a farmer selling his fertilizer to buy ogogoro. Hence Dutch disease.It is like a farmer addicted to alcohol,who sells his fertilizer to fund his addiction while remaining dirt poor. Instead of a productive economy that has enough Electricity and Factories to cater for her population,produce the goods she consumes and export the excess finished product. We are all here waiting for the white man to search,find,extract,transport and sell our oil in his country and throw the few pennies we get each month to us to fight over.Lets face it, oil allocation is the life of Nigeria isnt it? Is the monthly oil allocation we depend on generated based on population? No. Hence,our wealth is not based on the productivity of our people but that of the nations that buy our oil. If tomorrow they say oil is 50K we will go broke,even with a population of 5 Million. A rich country is a country that produces almost all she needs internally while exporting the excess for money. While,a poor country is one that can't produce what she needs even if her life depended on it. It has nothing to do with population. If not Niger would have a larger GDP than Canada. How is Taiwan's population understandable while Nigeria's is a mess,except that Taiwan has a very productive Human Capital?.Does that Tiny island have any resource? They would have been worse than Nigeria,if they did not develop their Human resource. |
Re: Should Nigerian Government Regulate Childbirth Like The Chinese? by masseratti: 9:53am On Sep 03, 2018 |
dragon2:lolz I laugh in Cantonese with your postulation, a rich country is what? Oga please this is a public forum, let me explain it to you in a plain language, America does 11mbp we do 2mpd,they have 350 million people we have conservatively 150 million, they tax their oil companies 37% we tax 45%,plus NNPC, do the maths they have more money to spend on each individual than we do, forget about export or import, the point is what does each government get as tax and royalties divided by the population, may then you can understand why our population is a mess and disaster, we are the poorest in the world #fact. The only way out is if we restructure and make our taxation workable. |
Re: Should Nigerian Government Regulate Childbirth Like The Chinese? by dragon2(m): 10:07am On Sep 03, 2018 |
masseratti: Do you think Nigeria cannot generate more than 2Mbpd? We wont be allowed by OPEC,simple. The 11Mbpd the US generates is not for export,hence not under OPEC,but rather for growing their economy.So yes, the U.S. Government will make a lot of money from taxing its very productive population that consumes that oil. Nigeria's oil Consumption is about 300kbpd and is even subsidised for the highly unproductive population.So whereas the US Government makes money from taxing oil consumption in its country,Oil consumption is a drain on our finances gained from oil production because we are not a productive society. EDIT The tax and royalties,is it not from a productive population? |
Re: Should Nigerian Government Regulate Childbirth Like The Chinese? by VeeVeeMyLuv(m): 10:08am On Sep 03, 2018 |
masseratti:tax that gofment people habitually use their own two hands to chop. Lol. |
Re: Should Nigerian Government Regulate Childbirth Like The Chinese? by Nobody: 10:52am On Sep 03, 2018 |
Ugosample:oga na only hausa u see there?....pipu get problem o! Just 4 u to knw aboki literally means "friend". Pls u need to travel round. So called "aboki" cannot write in my kinda words. I speak English,french,little yoruba,my local dialect, hausa bar igbo. Morever,i studied language related courses. So jst go n hide ur face... |
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