Just visited Vfs, was mobbed by the normal crowd of travel consultants...I decided to ask dem Wtf happened to people that applied in July/august... listening to dem, u can tell this people don't know a darm about processing time..the lady shaa told me my case is new that people she applied for have all gotten feedbacks...dat it's normally a month u get replies...she even told me people she applied for last week, she checking their accounts already for updates...she said I should mail dem, she can help...wen I asked "okay, how much?", woman said 30k...I just laughed my way out of dat office

I think the last set of online applicants that got updates(approval or delay)were third week in June applicants. Eversince this guys have been stalling. Hopefully late June & early July applicants should start getting a reply soon. As for we late July (online applicant July 23rd), I will just drink water then chill. Nonetheless I believe we should start getting eligibility review and medical request this week if this guys really know what they are doing (Just an assumption).

042viber12:
Just visited Vfs, was mobbed by the normal crowd of travel consultants...I decided to ask dem Wtf happened to people that applied in July/august... listening to dem, u can tell this people don't know a darm about processing time..the lady shaa told me my case is new that people she applied for have all gotten feedbacks...dat it's normally a month u get replies...she even told me people she applied for last week, she checking their accounts already for updates...she said I should mail dem, she can help...wen I asked "okay, how much?", woman said 30k...I just laughed my way out of dat office

No feedback yet!

123abcclown:


Any one of you guys gotten feedback already? Here, I haven't.

Thank you.

galala123:

Perhaps you should call IOM Abuja to book appointment and then decide if worth making the trip or waiting till November 21. The earlier you can get out of this cycle, the better before another bottleneck,(eg. Quota) is introduced.

Please good people i need your help, my gcms note just arrived and it's just stating the same generic reasons my denial letter stated too without any explanation. Please help cos I'm not understanding

ghabrhiel10:
Please good people i need your help, my gcms note just arrived and it's just stating the same generic reasons my denial letter stated too without any explanation. Please help cos I'm not understanding

This is not the factual reason for your refusal. Kindly scroll down to the last 2 pages of the PDF you will find the written note by the visa officer.

Hoping to see that from you soon.

The last two pages as it is, no explanation

Frankrobbn1:


This is not the factual reason for your refusal. Kindly scroll down to the last 2 pages of the PDF you will find the written note by the visa officer.

Hoping to see that from you soon.

ghabrhiel10:
The last two pages as it is, no explanation

sorry it's not that clear, my confusion has increased

ghabrhiel10:
The last two pages as it is, no explanation

Don't be confused yet! Please screenshot Note 1 and Note 2. Thank you!

ghabrhiel10:
Please good people i need your help, my gcms note just arrived and it's just stating the same generic reasons my denial letter stated too without any explanation. Please help cos I'm not understanding

REPLY THEN AS FOLLOWS:

The decision of the visa officer based to refuse my visa application based on the the PURPOSE OF VISIT is purely an arbitrariness which the Canadian law does not allow. Please see "Demyati v. Canada (Citizenship and Immigration), 2018 FC 701 paragraph 21 when the court ruled as follows: " "Without a doubt, visa officers need to be satisfied that the applicant will return to her/his country of origin before the expiration of the visa. That requirement permeates IRPA and its Regulations. However, conversely, our law does not allow for decisions to be made on an arbitrary basis. That is why even a standard such as that of reasonableness requires justification, transparency and intelligibility such that the reviewing court can ascertain if the decision reached falls within a range of possible, acceptable outcomes. In my view, this case lacks the kind of justification required by our law. The visa officer did not give his/her facts and evidence to support his/her position to doubt my purpose of the visit after I have clearly shown my purpose in my application and the letter addressed to him/her as an SOP.
Also, I made a clear declaration in my application that the only purpose of going to Canada is to study and nothing more. I am surprised that the VO overlooked this declaration in total disregard to the court position in
Cao v Canada (Minister of Citizenship and Immigration), 2010 FC 941 at para 13 [Cao], “[t]he decision to submit the applicant’s declaration is not a banal gesture. The declaration is a clear statement that the applicant understands the consequences of overstaying his welcome in Canada, and for this reason, it will not happen.

As a law-abiding citizen of Nigeria and a born-again Christian/Muslim, I understand the consequence of not complying with the condition of my admission into Canada and it will not happen. I declare once again that I am a bonafide student who will definitely leave Canada after my authorized stay in Canada.

(Please include a court affidavit that you will comply with your admission into Canada and that you will return at the end of your authorised stay in Canada.

Senatorkolade:


REPLY THEN AS FOLLOWS:

The decision of the visa officer based to refuse my visa application based on the the PURPOSE OF VISIT is purely an arbitrariness which the Canadian law does not allow. Please see "Demyati v. Canada (Citizenship and Immigration), 2018 FC 701 paragraph 21 when the court ruled as follows: " "Without a doubt, visa officers need to be satisfied that the applicant will return to her/his country of origin before the expiration of the visa. That requirement permeates IRPA and its Regulations. However, conversely, our law does not allow for decisions to be made on an arbitrary basis. That is why even a standard such as that of reasonableness requires justification, transparency and intelligibility such that the reviewing court can ascertain if the decision reached falls within a range of possible, acceptable outcomes. In my view, this case lacks the kind of justification required by our law. The visa officer did not give his/her facts and evidence to support his/her position to doubt my purpose of the visit after I have clearly shown my purpose in my application and the letter addressed to him/her as an SOP.
Also, I made a clear declaration in my application that the only purpose of going to Canada is to study and nothing more. I am surprised that the VO overlooked this declaration in total disregard to the court position in
Cao v Canada (Minister of Citizenship and Immigration), 2010 FC 941 at para 13 [Cao], “[t]he decision to submit the applicant’s declaration is not a banal gesture. The declaration is a clear statement that the applicant understands the consequences of overstaying his welcome in Canada, and for this reason, it will not happen.

As a law-abiding citizen of Nigeria and a born-again Christian/Muslim, I understand the consequence of not complying with the condition of my admission into Canada and it will not happen. I declare once again that I am a bonafide student who will definitely leave Canada after my authorized stay in Canada.

(Please include a court affidavit that you will comply with your admission into Canada and that you will return at the end of your authorised stay in Canada.

Bros I sent you a pm . Please check your email

Frankrobbn1:


Don't be confused yet! Please screenshot Note 1 and Note 2. Thank you!

sir frank I was received a PDF from applygcms containing 47 pages of my profile and refusal ground without an explanation. Should I share the refusal ground page as the pages 1 and 2 contains only my profile

nothing yet bro.

please quick one, don't pause your life cos of Canada, if it comes fine, if it doesn't fine still !

123abcclown:


Any one of you guys gotten feedback already? Here, I haven't.

Senatorkolade:


REPLY THEN AS FOLLOWS:

The decision of the visa officer based to refuse my visa application based on the the PURPOSE OF VISIT is purely an arbitrariness which the Canadian law does not allow. Please see "Demyati v. Canada (Citizenship and Immigration), 2018 FC 701 paragraph 21 when the court ruled as follows: " "Without a doubt, visa officers need to be satisfied that the applicant will return to her/his country of origin before the expiration of the visa. That requirement permeates IRPA and its Regulations. However, conversely, our law does not allow for decisions to be made on an arbitrary basis. That is why even a standard such as that of reasonableness requires justification, transparency and intelligibility such that the reviewing court can ascertain if the decision reached falls within a range of possible, acceptable outcomes. In my view, this case lacks the kind of justification required by our law. The visa officer did not give his/her facts and evidence to support his/her position to doubt my purpose of the visit after I have clearly shown my purpose in my application and the letter addressed to him/her as an SOP.
Also, I made a clear declaration in my application that the only purpose of going to Canada is to study and nothing more. I am surprised that the VO overlooked this declaration in total disregard to the court position in
Cao v Canada (Minister of Citizenship and Immigration), 2010 FC 941 at para 13 [Cao], “[t]he decision to submit the applicant’s declaration is not a banal gesture. The declaration is a clear statement that the applicant understands the consequences of overstaying his welcome in Canada, and for this reason, it will not happen.

As a law-abiding citizen of Nigeria and a born-again Christian/Muslim, I understand the consequence of not complying with the condition of my admission into Canada and it will not happen. I declare once again that I am a bonafide student who will definitely leave Canada after my authorized stay in Canada.

(Please include a court affidavit that you will comply with your admission into Canada and that you will return at the end of your authorised stay in Canada.

Thanks bros but I still find it weird that my own case wasn't explained

ghabrhiel10:
Please good people i need your help, my gcms note just arrived and it's just stating the same generic reasons my denial letter stated too without any explanation. Please help cos I'm not understanding

You are not a pariah. The VO just deliberately and arbitrarily refused your application without any cogent reason

ghabrhiel10:
sir frank I was received a PDF from applygcms containing 47 pages of my profile and refusal ground without an explanation. Should I share the refusal ground page as the pages 1 and 2 contains only my profile

Page 1 and Page 2 contains sensitive information about you and shouldn't be shared on a public forum. The previous attachment you shared here was Note 3, 4, and 5 respectively. Check for Note 1 and 2 towards the ending part of the GCMS Notes there the information about your application lies.

Frankrobbn1:


Page 1 and Page 2 contains sensitive information about you and shouldn't be shared on a public forum. The previous attachment you shared here was Note 3, 4, and 5 respectively. Check for Note 1 and 2 towards the ending part of the GCMS Notes there the information about your application lies.

You're correct sir frank, the last notes 1 and 2 towards the ending part of the gcms notes contains all info about my application which I already shared the screen shot that didn't appear clear, but the explanation for my refusal is not still included there

Senatorkolade:



You are not a pariah. The VO just deliberately and arbitrarily refused your application without any cogent reason

Meaning I'll just be reapplying blindly without even knowing the truth as to why those refusal grounds were given. This is just so unfair

ghabrhiel10:


Meaning I'll just be reapplying blindly without even knowing the truth as to why those refusal grounds were given. This is just so unfair

It is the easiest to tackle on the point of reasonableness which is a good ground to fault VO's decision

kceecool:
nothing yet bro.

please quick one, don't pause your life cos of Canada, if it comes fine, if it doesn't fine still !

These CIC guys are gradually becoming disgusting.

Thank you for your advice about not pausing my life because of Canada. Not that life in itself has a pause button though....lol

What if not getting an MSc is the actual "pause"? I don't know for anyone in the thread but I have gotten to that point where I actually "need" an MSc. The whole relaxed route to PR post graduation was only supposed to be an extra benefit.

ghabrhiel10:


Meaning I'll just be reapplying blindly without even knowing the truth as to why those refusal grounds were given. This is just so unfair

Sorry bro wen did u apply and wen did u get the reject

ghabrhiel10:


You're correct sir frank, the last notes 1 and 2 towards the ending part of the gcms notes contains all info about my application which I already shared the screen shot that didn't appear clear, but the explanation for my refusal is not still included there

Don't just reapply that way. Endeavour to tackle the generic reasons that were raised by the visa officer on your refusal letter. Most especially Purpose of Visit and Home ties as these are the requirements which are put into consideration prior to the issuance of a study visa to Canada.

Wow! Very resourceful! Thanks for sharing this. I have been thinking of how best to respond to the somehow arbitrary response I was served.

Senatorkolade:


REPLY THEN AS FOLLOWS:

The decision of the visa officer based to refuse my visa application based on the the PURPOSE OF VISIT is purely an arbitrariness which the Canadian law does not allow. Please see "Demyati v. Canada (Citizenship and Immigration), 2018 FC 701 paragraph 21 when the court ruled as follows: " "Without a doubt, visa officers need to be satisfied that the applicant will return to her/his country of origin before the expiration of the visa. That requirement permeates IRPA and its Regulations. However, conversely, our law does not allow for decisions to be made on an arbitrary basis. That is why even a standard such as that of reasonableness requires justification, transparency and intelligibility such that the reviewing court can ascertain if the decision reached falls within a range of possible, acceptable outcomes. In my view, this case lacks the kind of justification required by our law. The visa officer did not give his/her facts and evidence to support his/her position to doubt my purpose of the visit after I have clearly shown my purpose in my application and the letter addressed to him/her as an SOP.
Also, I made a clear declaration in my application that the only purpose of going to Canada is to study and nothing more. I am surprised that the VO overlooked this declaration in total disregard to the court position in
Cao v Canada (Minister of Citizenship and Immigration), 2010 FC 941 at para 13 [Cao], “[t]he decision to submit the applicant’s declaration is not a banal gesture. The declaration is a clear statement that the applicant understands the consequences of overstaying his welcome in Canada, and for this reason, it will not happen.

As a law-abiding citizen of Nigeria and a born-again Christian/Muslim, I understand the consequence of not complying with the condition of my admission into Canada and it will not happen. I declare once again that I am a bonafide student who will definitely leave Canada after my authorized stay in Canada.

(Please include a court affidavit that you will comply with your admission into Canada and that you will return at the end of your authorised stay in Canada.

Good evening guys, I sent a mail to Humber college telling them I was refused visa first week in October and attached a copy of the refusal telling her I have also applied for my Gcsm note and it will be out next week after which I'll reapply again. Attached is what she said. Now I really do not believe this because I know so many people that reapplied for the same intake and got trv

042viber12:


Sorry bro wen did u apply and wen did u get the reject

Applied 14th june
Denied 25th September

Good evening house. Please I withdraw my application via the Web form but I did not get any acknowledgement to know if it's successful or not. Please can anyone tell me what else to do. Thanks your response is highly appreciated.

Sir frank and senatorkolade sorry for mispresentation please, I hope I don't get a ban from you ND the gurus in the house. I had to spend hours searching for why my own case will be different when it comes to gcms review, then I saw a particular long text written in French, imagine ooo. I used google to translate it and surprisingly that was the vo's explanation written in French!!. Omo igbo like me that cannot even speak my own igbo well, it's French I'll now understand. Please gurus, forgive me for the stress I put you guys through

ghabrhiel10:
Sir frank and senatorkolade sorry for mispresentation please, I hope I don't get a ban from you ND the gurus in the house. I had to spend hours searching for why my own case will be different when it comes to gcms review, then I saw a particular long text written in French, imagine ooo. I used google to translate it and surprisingly that was the vo's explanation written in French!!. Omo igbo like me that cannot even speak my own igbo well, it's French I'll now understand. Please gurus, forgive me for the stress I put you guys through

Can you share the translated reasons?

Senatorkolade:


REPLY THEN AS FOLLOWS:

The decision of the visa officer based to refuse my visa application based on the the PURPOSE OF VISIT is purely an arbitrariness which the Canadian law does not allow. Please see "Demyati v. Canada (Citizenship and Immigration), 2018 FC 701 paragraph 21 when the court ruled as follows: " "Without a doubt, visa officers need to be satisfied that the applicant will return to her/his country of origin before the expiration of the visa. That requirement permeates IRPA and its Regulations. However, conversely, our law does not allow for decisions to be made on an arbitrary basis. That is why even a standard such as that of reasonableness requires justification, transparency and intelligibility such that the reviewing court can ascertain if the decision reached falls within a range of possible, acceptable outcomes. In my view, this case lacks the kind of justification required by our law. The visa officer did not give his/her facts and evidence to support his/her position to doubt my purpose of the visit after I have clearly shown my purpose in my application and the letter addressed to him/her as an SOP.
Also, I made a clear declaration in my application that the only purpose of going to Canada is to study and nothing more. I am surprised that the VO overlooked this declaration in total disregard to the court position in
Cao v Canada (Minister of Citizenship and Immigration), 2010 FC 941 at para 13 [Cao], “[t]he decision to submit the applicant’s declaration is not a banal gesture. The declaration is a clear statement that the applicant understands the consequences of overstaying his welcome in Canada, and for this reason, it will not happen.

As a law-abiding citizen of Nigeria and a born-again Christian/Muslim, I understand the consequence of not complying with the condition of my admission into Canada and it will not happen. I declare once again that I am a bonafide student who will definitely leave Canada after my authorized stay in Canada.

(Please include a court affidavit that you will comply with your admission into Canada and that you will return at the end of your authorised stay in Canada.

This essay or brief would be appropriate for judicial review. But if reapplying, you have to respectfully appeal to the VO to favorably exercise discretion on your behalf, not argue with him or her. Understanding that VOs have enormous power in their decision making, will go along way in how one can write and effective SOP on reapplication. Good luck.

jnyuwa02:


This essay or brief would be appropriate for judicial review. But if reapplying, you have to respectfully appeal to the VO to favorably exercise discretion on your behalf, not argue with him or her. Understanding that VOs have enormous power in their decision making, will go along way in how one can write and effective SOP on reapplication. Good luck.

White people don't look at it that way. In African context if an elderly is talking to you and you are making an eye contact with the person, you are rude but to Oyinbos, you are confidence of what you are saying. There is nothing wrong in pointing to the VO the relevant laws that might have been breached. People do make mistakes with appealing to Oyinbos. These white people are different with their thinking o. Appealing to them is like pleading guilty or looking desperate. Don't use vulgar language for them. Just analyse it to them why you think they have erred.

Let me give you a scenario, I work with British and American Consular in the airport here in Lagos. On profiling a guy, the consular had a concern with a passenger and the guy was appealing to the Oyinbo to show a favourable discretion to him in a very polite way as you suggested. Do you know what the white man told me, he said Kolade, offload this man. If he is confident of his story, why asking for leniency?

SO THESE VISA OFFICERS DONT LOOK AT IT THAT WAY O