debosky:

Can you explain how? The land was 'taken' by the sea, and is now being reclaimed on behalf of the Lagos State government. How has it been taken from the masses? Without the private capital, Lagos cannot afford to reclaim the land, so it is in effect giving land back to the 'masses' since a number of the current occupants of V/I and its environs will move to the city once it is completed and will open up spaces for others to occupy.

Without a doubt it does - and Lagos State has authorised the sale of the land, on behalf of the people of Lagos state.

debosky:

If that is the case for Japan, kindly explain the reasons why Toronto and New York spread into the sea, despite being in countries with some of the largest landmasses on the globe. Lack of space on a national level is not always the driving force for reclamation.

That you are philosophically opposed to the reclamation is not the same as arguing that there is no business case/economic analysis that makes it a viable investment.

debosky:

With or without Eko Atlantic, the population of Lagos will continue to sky rocket due to rural urban migration. It is disingenuous to say that creating economic activity will cause problems for Lagos, when the people continue to come regardless of whether opportunities exist or not.

debosky:

That question should be directed at the FG - Lagos State's growth is primarily due to migration from other states. It is nearly impossible for Lagos State to do much about the population explosion without help from other states or the Federal Government.

Kobojunkie:

I think that is where a majority of those who have asked questions, including self, stand on this, but for some people asking questions is akin to being against the project and therefore you are labelled a detractor . . . lol

I would say you are best directing your question to the right authorities. Many of those selling this project online are only good at copy and paste and have no more information that you can get from google on this. 

proudly9ja:

But you see, that is where the problem lies. People will continue to come into Lagos, true but in what category will you base these people coming into Lagos? Will the Eko Atlantic project help to accommodate these people or will it cause more problems? Any responsible government will put these factors into view before venturing into such a project.

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As I had stated previously, the project is private: privately funded and controlled. As for how expensive properties will be in Lagos, I can only comment on how much land is for sale. It is up to third party entities to purchase land, develop it and charge for their product type. We are building the land, the infrastructure, roads, utilities, and selling plots.

. . . . Plots are currently available for sale. Plot sizes start at 2000 square meters and up, and have a starting price of $825 and go up to $1660 per square meter (please note we do accept the equivalent in Naira). Price are determined by where your land is in location to water. 

proudly9ja:

And if you really look at it, the Eko Atlantic project will cause more problems for Lagos. More people will come in seeking the 'jobs' that will be created and most of these people will be those who cannot afford to buy/rent houses in the new city thereby competing again with the already over populated 'mainlanders'.

In my opinion, I think before government goes into such a project, they need to show us figures. How many people currently stay in lagos? How many of these can afford to stay in Lagos? In 2025 or whenever its being touted Lagos will become the 3rd most populated city in the world, which group of people will dominate this population (those who can afford accommodation or those who can't)? what then is the justification for the new project?
And what is Lagos REALLY doing about the population explosion staring at us?

And I totally don't buy into all these 'its a private sector funded project' talk. That's what they said about that piece of junk currently lying fallow at Marina.

@babapupa,
i think u should call paddy-lo and have breakfast with him or maybe dinner,
frm where i stand you guys have no reverse gear.
as other viewpoints make no Atlantic sense.

joeyfire:

@babapupa

Ok. I'm interested in knowing how the people behind this project are going to do things differently. Do you have any facts to share? as far as i know there've been insane amounts of money spent by the state government to protect our shoreline. I heard (a rumour though) that the same company that did the shoreline are involved with this eko atlantic thing. naturally i'm not encouraged. would you be?

joeyfire:

@debosky

I'd love to ask - what makes you think that the money from the taxes on the project will be used to develop other areas of lagos. The billions raised every month in taxes hasnt translated to commensurate improvement in the rate, quality or maintenance of amenities. Rather there's been a lull. A visit to ajah which is my constituency will change your mind. You are right the project like every prioritised project by this administration is targeted at what , you said it - ''HIGH END INVESTORS''. I still believe that this government can afford to partnert with some investor to build DECENT medium income housing units in undeveloped tranches of land in places like EPE,Ikorodu, Okoko,etc

And for the record try googling Mega City and fashola in the same box and tell me that this government isnt sold on the idea and ''positioning'' the state

These companies from electrical comps to roads and bridges, painting, brick layers, trailers, tankers, food vendors, advert and graphic companies and many more will have to hire thousands of Lagosians to work on this massive project. Thousands of same Lagosians from the messenger to managers and directors are gonna be collecting paychecks from the city upon completion.

This is ow you lift people out of poverty.

@PADDY_LO

PLEASE CONTINUE TO POST . . .

I am always looking forward to reading your threads ,

Please ignore every negative remark. . . I have vowed to do the same. . . Always remain positive no matter what 'they' say.
they do not have the last word only God does.

EKO IS MOVING FORWARD

NIGERIA IS MOVING FORWARD. PERIOD

paddy_lo:

^^
@babapupa
[b]
Not to talk of realtors,Lawyers,Furniture makers(to service new apartments/high-rises),cement manufacturers,Tourism from new hotels built in the area,bars,clubs

Just the damn multiplier effect from having a huge construction project on going in the city. . .

Hell even Obama was screaming and looking for shovel ready projects to spend his stimulus dollars on

Well in Eko Atlantic we have one huge Shovel ready project ongoing,that will stimulate the state economy for decades[/b]

Why cant the government you're foaming at the mouth to defend, start companies or industries that will employ people for ever.

joeyfire:

@paddy lo

When I say start companies, I am referring to the government partnering with the private sector like they are doing LCC (even if they're doing a crap job of it) waste recycling plants, factories etc private coys can be invited to start and can be supported with tax breaks, land and so on. This isnt the US so capitalist policies have to be tempered down to realism. I can give you a hundred instances where the Ghanaian govt did similar and its we know how well they're coming along.

''Employing forever'' means there should be a job that should outlast the worker. Not civil servants but private workers in a place that is privately managed but encouraged to start by the govt.

As for roads Its obvious you dont live in lagos. i work in ikoyi and besides bourdillon high street most of the neighborhood is flooded as we type bro. I was at the General hospital I spoke about to get a Yellow card to allow me travel to another african state and i saw sick people standing cos there werent enough chairs, long lines because there werent enough doctors (the few there couldnt give a damn), the place was hot as hell because there wasnt light (IN A HOSPITAL FOR CRYING OUT LOUD). In a state that makes over N15 Billion from taxes a month and N6 Billion from federal revenue. Go and ask the man in the street what he wants - an Atlantic City or Roads without floods when it rains and decent healthcare

joeyfire:


As for roads Its obvious you dont live in lagos. i work in ikoyi and besides bourdillon high street most of the neighborhood is flooded as we type bro. I was at the General hospital I spoke about to get a Yellow card to allow me travel to another african state and i saw sick people standing cos there werent enough chairs, long lines because there werent enough doctors (the few there couldnt give a damn), the place was hot as hell because there wasnt light (IN A HOSPITAL FOR CRYING OUT LOUD). In a state that makes over N15 Billion from taxes a month and N6 Billion from federal revenue. Go and ask the man in the street what he wants - an Atlantic City or Roads without floods when it rains and decent healthcare

joeyfire:

@babapupa

I am torn between descending to your level of trading insults like an illiterate meal seller and responding to your questions in a mature and objective manner. Well I think I'm more inclined to the latter. For the record my guy, this is a forum for information sharing so DIVERGENT views will always come. Eat it or throw it away.

I cant find a shred of sense in your post but I will help you out with facts. The Lagos State Ministry of Waterfront and Infrastructural Development expended the sum of N7BN fixing the shoreline and  since the project was announced as completed, there have been instances of the water breaching the barriers. I can understand a couple of decades but a few months is unnaceptable to me because I'm a diligent taxpayer. You said ''the best shoreline protection folks'' are doing the shoreline I'll love to hear who they are if you REALLY know who they are and not just bawling out.

Also you mentioned roads, bridges, health centres etc being constructed I'd like to ask you can you name three major roads, hospitals that have been built. Let me ask you,have you been to a General hospital lately? I tell you the one on Broad Street is run down (it was relaunched about two years ago). The Lekki - epe Expressway project has been on for five years and has only managed to move from Law school to lekki phase 1 (2% of the project)after the Billions spent. For your info it is also a private project since it was concessioned to LCC but the masses will pay for it in tolls for 30 years. Just to clarify something - the builders, lawyers, engineers and so on are part of the same gang and besides the temporary crumbs falling to the plates of the footworkers, the big bucks will go to the bosses. Road building and construction is NOT a sustainable source of employment. Why cant the government you're foaming at the mouth to defend, start companies or industries that will employ people for ever.  

Fhemmmy:

I will love to see some pictures of the progress if any

russellino:

This Atlantic City project is one big joke. Who's going to build it? HITECH. LOL ! The Ajah - Epe expressway has taken close to 6 years and 10 Billion naira and has only gone as far as 2 miles. You guys need to come back to earth and fast!! How come there is absolute secrecy surrounding the investors and funders. Lagosians will learn the truth after this Bola Tinubu regime is laid to rest.

blacksta:

That is Deep bro.

I suspect in times to come Lagos will turn into state where outer regions close to water are exclusive for the rich while the center which is the core continues to degenerate and it is already happening just to look at the divide between Island and Mainland.

Princek12:

Bottom line is that people who are haters--i.e., many people from the east, among others, will always criticize Lagos no matter what we do, probably because their own leaders are busy embezzling money instead of focusing on developing their land.

Princek12:

This jealousy of Lagos is palpable. If Eko Atlantic is privately funded, a private investor's preference to invest resources in Lagos is nobody's business, as long as you are not injured by any developments that emanated from the investment.