maestroferdi:
Only a fool will choose stoking the fires of disaffection and rancour and still expect a different outcome.

What makes you different from the person you are trying to condemn?

Why didn't the Ihnos condemn the words of Kanu when he was ranting mad, I can remember at the peak of it Yoruba and Hausa /Fulani individuals were insulted freely on NL just for no other reason but their ethnicity.

I actually stopped visiting NL at that time.

Adakintroy:
The truth is that he is telling the truth. Maybe his choice of language is too extreme but yes he is not far from it. Many only consider his choice of language. But strain you observation a little this way.



Notice

Oyedepo, kumuyi, temi tokpe (tb joshua) adefarasi, ashimolowo, olukoya. With exception to Christ embassy ( which is now outside due to their endless politiking) try find any mega church that is not Yorba dominated.

You will see were his sense of established tribal colonization is coming from.

I guess the father of Pentecostalism in Nigeria Benson Idahosa is also guilty of religious domination his church is still very well active, Suleiman, Okotie and the several other religious leaders who have large congregations diverse are guilty of religious domination.

Redeem has pastors who come from all regions of Nigeria, same as winners and any one of them can one day rise to the position of leadership if God wills.
There is no logic in his argument it is nothing short of ignorance and hatred .

Hotfreezer:


The internet never forgets.

Other posts referencing the hatred of Igbos for other Nigerians would be dug up. Better save your tears, more posts are coming

What of thread and posts referencing Yoruba hatred of Igbos? Are you telling us that it is only the Igbos that show hatred?

KANUISALIVE:


IPOB obeyed the instruction ordered by our Director and for your information IPOB is not about the igbos alone

We will as well boycott the election, we don't care who emerges but our stand remains no referendum no election

if IPOB isnt abouyt igbos alone, then whats it about?d question u have failed to answer is despite d threat of "no referendum no election", y was there election in anambra? what went wrong? y didnt igbos boycott anambra election?

ezeagu:
One thing about African people in general is that all of this strife was manufactured by outsiders, Igbo, Yoruba, Fulani, etc didn't know themselves as one thing 200 years ago, but the same outsiders are allowed to go to any African country freely without the repercussions of all the fighting. Nigeria, as can be seen from how US statesmen and other Western leaders simply appear every election time, is ran by Western interest, just like any other African country.

This is what I have been telling people. The different ethnic groups were trading before the white men came. Now these white demons are seen as angels

OEPHIUS:
With the reported return of the leader of IPOB, Nnamdi Kanu, some questions arise like if he will still preach hatred and still continue his disdain for Yorubas and Hausa/Fulanis.

The video below is just one example where he said Igbos should not attend Yoruba churches or churches headed by Yorubas.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1y3yR-NMSvg

^^^^^
^^^^^
This is the person Femi Fani-Kayode
is hobnobbing with and supporting!

lexy2014:

if IPOB isnt abouyt igbos alone, then whats it about?d question u have failed to answer is despite d threat of "no referendum no election", y was there election in anambra? what went wrong? y didnt igbos boycott anambra election?

IPOB is not voting, we are not stopping nigerians from voting. Get that to your tiny brain

IPOB did not vote and will not vote, stop getting restless night because of people who don't give a damn about you.

[why do you allow tribalistic comments in this platform?The Yoruba's attacking the generality of the Igbo's including late Ojukwu. Why,people have to be matured and tolerant in this country. Mind you most of the civil wars in Africa are caused by hate speech by one tribe against another. You peoples growing banters have to be careful.

KANUISALIVE:


IPOB is not voting, we are not stopping nigerians from voting. Get that to your tiny brain

IPOB did not vote and will not vote, stop getting restless night because of people who don't give a damn about you.

Good. Then who were d people that voted in d anambra gubernatorial elections? Are they Nigerians? Am sure ur large brain can shed light on this.

lexy2014:

Good. Then who were d people that voted in d anambra gubernatorial elections? Are they Nigerians? Am sure ur large brain can shed light on this.

Abokis and afonjas living there

KANUISALIVE:


Abokis and afonjas living there

Is it a crime 4 a northerner or afonja to "live there"?

calling ojukwu and nnamdi KANU a coward in relative,because of their ethnic background.Don't you know that it takes extra ordinary bravery for Ojukwu to enact a secession in a sovereign country?Do you know that ojukwu single handedly commanded a Biafran strike force called the "S BRIGADE"which did not report to the Biafra army headquarters, but directly to him. He Ojukwu led them to battle fields with the lone machine gun on several occasions firing the gun by himself.He engaged the federal troops with it.Do you know that ojukwu lost his brother called Tom bigger in the war? He was in the Biafra army he died in war front.Do you know that the Biafra war recorded the biggest blood birth in Africa?
Ojukwu went on an exile because it was the normal thing to do after a war signifying an end to injustice,massacre and destruction of properties of a group of brave people who had no option than to put up resistance and stood against the tide and odds from a credulous world,but engaged NIGERIA and other world powers notably,Russia,German y,Britain and the Arab world, in bloody war When Gowon couldn't protect the lives and properties of a group of people just because their are from the other side of the divide to their surprise,shock and marrows.Ojukwu was persuaded to go on exile which he reluctantly did .Can any other tribe in NIGERIA do what Ojukwu and Igbos did? Tell me.Today we are under siege of the North yet you coward Nigerians could not do anything about it. This time Igbo's will not fight for the wellbeing of Nigerians in general. They annulled June 12 election, the dictates were the president should come for.They controls the oil derivations,control your oil wells,and plunder you to poverty and servitude

lexy2014:

Is it a crime 4 a northerner or afonja to "live there"?

Not a crime, whenever the date for referendum is set, abokis and afonjas living in Biafraland are free to vote for nigeria while the indigenous people of Biafra vote for Biafra

KANUISALIVE:


Not a crime, whenever the date for referendum is set, abokis and afonjas living in Biafraland are free to vote for nigeria while the indigenous people of Biafra vote for Biafra

so is it d northerners & Yoruba's that voted 4 obiano?

sweetgala:


I guess the father of Pentecostalism in Nigeria Benson Idahosa is also guilty of religious domination his church is still very well active, Suleiman, Okotie and the several other religious leaders who have large congregations diverse are guilty of religious domination.

Redeem has pastors who come from all regions of Nigeria, same as winners and any one of them can one day rise to the position of leadership if God wills.
There is no logic in his argument it is nothing short of ignorance and hatred .

Be realistic for once in your life. How many of them would be allowed to spread their tenticles to the length of the nation. Have congregations in other states conveniently and rake millions out. If they are not with the alliance.

lexy2014:
so is it d northerners & Yoruba's that voted 4 obiano?

You said so, the Indigenous people, the real owners of the land boycotted the (s)election

KANUISALIVE:


You said so, the Indigenous people, the real owners of the land boycotted the (s)election

I didn't make a statement I asked a question. They are two different things. So who are d real owners of d land and who are d fake owners of d land?

lexy2014:


I didn't make a statement I asked a question. They are two different things. So who are d real owners of d land and who are d fake owners of d land?

DIDN'T NNAMDI KANU WARN NIGERIANS ABOUT BUHARI? FACE YOUR MONSTER & FIND A WAY TO VOTE HIM OUT YOURSELVES. IPOB NEVER VOTED HIM IN AND IPOB IS NOT YOUR PROBLEM. BESIDES, TERRORISTS DON'T GET TO VOTE �. GIVE US A DATE FOR A REFERENDUM OR NOTHING WILL HAPPEN... FINITO!

Now get lost

Adakintroy:



Be realistic for once in your life. How many of them would be allowed to spread their tenticles to the length of the nation. Have congregations in other states conveniently and rake millions out. If they are not with the alliance.

I wasn't aware there was a barrier for growth in the Christian faith. Any pastor is allowed to set up a congregation register with the appropriate bodies stipulated by the FG rules as exempt from taxes , grow their congregation over years and excel.

Nobody has stopped Suleiman, Idahosa , Ayo Oritsejafor was the head of CAN and his church has tentacles across the nation, Okotie has chosen to centralise his ministry and the church in Lagos is mega with other parishes in major cities, idahosa's ministry gave birth to what you see in Nigeria and many pastors refer to him as their mentor.

You are saying rubbish and your argument is baseless and without facts. It just so happens that Adeboye and Oyedepo TB Joshua have attained a level of success in their mission but so did Idahosa and this light skinned pastor his name escapes me now

sweetgala:



I wasn't aware there was a barrier for growth in the Christian faith. Any pastor is allowed to set up a congregation register with the appropriate bodies stipulated by the FG rules as exempt from taxes , grow their congregation over years and excel.

Nobody has stopped Suleiman, Idahosa , Ayo Oritsejafor was the head of CAN and his church has tentacles across the nation, Okotie has chosen to centralise his ministry and the church in Lagos is mega with other parishes in major cities, idahosa's ministry gave birth to what you see in Nigeria and many pastors refer to him as their mentor.

You are saying rubbish and your argument is baseless and without facts. It just so happens that Adeboye and Oyedepo TB Joshua have attained a level of success in their mission but so did Idahosa and this light skinned pastor his name escapes me now

You are as naive as 22yr old brother Samuel who still thinks wrestling is real.

Religion is politics. Once wars are fought, the winners get to share the spoils. Benson might be the father of modern pentecost. But his dominance just like orishejafor ends within his own territory. Yoruba and northerner runs the politics. Just as they control the religion . If its islam, its with the north,if its christainity its with the west. The third biggest ethnic group (igbos) gets nothing. Why? Because they lost the war. So God can never call them to expand. Just like God can never call them to be president. That is how the truth goes. No were will they hand this much mind under the control of an ethic group that is not from this two. It's a risk.



As for the God of apostle johnson Suleiman, he stays within a space caved for him and he is very loyal to the God of oyedepo.

Even then his territory gets shared by God of oyedepo, kumuyi, and adeboye?. But not the other way round.

The same goes for God of orishejafor. They don't get any territory aside there own. Even then the combined numbers of God of oyedepo in their territories is more than theirs in their own territory.

There is no God of ikechukwu beyond the east. How conincidental.

If you want to see friend permitted yourself to do so. Religion is politics. If you still doubt Ask osibanjo and the redeem family.

Biafra all the way

All those stupid pastors are there deceiving people, and some lukewarm Igbo are following them....


Nonsense

Adakintroy:



You are as naive as 22yr old brother Samuel who still thinks wrestling is real.

Religion is politics. Once wars are fought, the winners get to share the spoils. Benson might be the father of modern pentecost. But his dominance just like orishejafor ends within his own territory. Yoruba and northerner runs the politics. Just as they control the religion . If its islam, its with the north,if its christainity its with the west. The third biggest ethnic group (igbos) gets nothing. Why? Because they lost the war. So God can never call them to expand. Just like God can never call them to be president. That is how the truth goes. No were will they hand this much mind under the control of an ethic group that is not from this two. It's a risk.



As for the God of apostle johnson Suleiman, he stays within a space caved for him and he is very loyal to the God of oyedepo.

Even then his territory gets shared by God of oyedepo, kumuyi, and adeboye?. But not the other way round.

The same goes for God of orishejafor. They don't get any territory aside there own. Even then the combined numbers of God of oyedepo in their territories is more than theirs in their own territory.

There is no God of ikechukwu beyond the east. How conincidental.

If you want to see friend permitted yourself to do so. Religion is politics. If you still doubt Ask osibanjo and the redeem family.

The distribution of churches has more to do with the other peoples free mind and level of real hate towards the other, their level of partisanship and overriding mental factor. Redeem can flourish in the east and south (for Yoruba not igbo mans owned church) because people of those region dont have much indepth hatred for the westerners. The opposite is not the case for the same reason. Once one is a Christian or talks Bible, the average igbo man forgets ethnic bais and has a soft spot towards you whether you are Aboki or kunle or Tamuno. Thesame may not be said for others whose ties to ethnic group supersedes their religious ties. It about the overriding factor of a people.
Religion ties ranks most to igbos than ethnicity and politics unlike Yorubas were majarity were raised in families consisting of both Christians and Muslims so religion is not enough or a big deal to constitute the overriding factor but ethnicity. It has nothing to do eith a war fought decades ago. Otherwise why is mosque/islam not flourishing in the east? It goes against the overriding factor of igbos.
Its easy for an igbo man to look at Oyedepo or even orishejafor and call him papa based on the religion being his main and overriding mental focus than a Drle to call a Mr Chinedu my brother in the lord because Dele's sense of brotherhood and papahood lies mainly on ethnicity than on religion.
Why do you think igbos have great love for isreal and to a great extent America? They see them as brothers based on Christianity the distance and complete different hemisphere not minding.

Likewise the Northerners have religion as overriding mental factor in engagement with outsider hence their anti-Christian and anti-American bias. Others why is the "god" of Oyedepo not allowed to flourish there like in the east? Why didn't the war ensure that too? Igbos endavours to keep ethnic politics out of religion because they hold religion sacredly in higher esteem otherwise they would simply boycott churches owned by others and 4-decade+ago war won't make those church flourish in the east. The average igbo Christian does not see Oyedepo first as a Yoruba then as a man of God but the other way. So sees no difference between Pastor Kunle and pastor Chukwudi because he is more interested in their power from God than in their ethnic background. Hence he can even "patronize" the former more if that's where he feels his spiritual boat gets floated.

That is why the average igbo man can be very surprised why he gets soo much hate from westerners and SS people whom he sees through the lens of religious brotherhood not knowing that the other sides has a completely different concept as their overriding factor towards others.

As for not allowing Igbos have power, everyone see where that "wise" decision has led the country. Only fools can lead and prefer those who led a country soo rich with everything nature can offer into a blood soaked and soaking sh*hole for this long and only fools do or prefer thesame thing over and over and expect a different result. So you can judge for yourself. Atleast you cant accuse igbos of leading 200 million so called wise people who doesn't want them to have power, into one of the biggest dysfunctional mess in the entire world but cant say thesame for those you prefer non igbos and the very non igbos responsible for this massive humane calamity.

sweetgala:


Why didn't the Ihnos condemn the words of Kanu when he was ranting mad, I can remember at the peak of it Yoruba and Hausa /Fulani individuals were insulted freely on NL just for no other reason but their ethnicity.

I actually stopped visiting NL at that time.

How come Nnamdi Kanu has succeeded in making millions of people reason and act like fools?

maestroferdi:
How come Nnamdi Kanu has succeeded in making millions of people reason and act like fools?

How come Fulani and co has led 200 million people into a sh*thole of a country over such a long period even with abundance of excess natural and human resources ?

princfred:
The distribution of churches has more to do with the other peoples free mind and level of real hate towards the other, their level of partisanship and overriding mental factor. Redeem can flourish in the east and south (for Yoruba not igbo mans owned church) because people of those region dont have much indepth hatred for the westerners. The opposite is not the case for the same reason. Once one is a Christian or talks Bible, the average igbo man forgets ethnic bais and has a soft spot towards you whether you are Aboki or kunle or Tamuno. Thesame may not be said for others whose ties to ethnic group supersedes their religious ties. It about the overriding factor of a people.
Religion ties ranks most to igbos than ethnicity and politics unlike Yorubas were majarity were raised in families consisting of both Christians and Muslims so religion is not enough or a big deal to constitute the overriding factor but ethnicity. It has nothing to do eith a war fought decades ago. Otherwise why is mosque/islam not flourishing in the east? It goes against the overriding factor of igbos.
Its easy for an igbo man to look at Oyedepo or even orishejafor and call him papa based on the religion being his main and overriding mental focus than a Drle to call a Mr Chinedu my brother in the lord because Dele's sense of brotherhood and papahood lies mainly on ethnicity than on religion.
Why do you think igbos have great love for isreal and to a great extent America? They see them as brothers based on Christianity the distance and complete different hemisphere not minding.

Likewise the Northerners have religion as overriding mental factor in engagement with outsider hence their anti-Christian and anti-American bias. Others why is the "god" of Oyedepo not allowed to flourish there like in the east? Why didn't the war ensure that too? Igbos endavours to keep ethnic politics out of religion because they hold religion sacredly in higher esteem otherwise they would simply boycott churches owned by others and 4-decade+ago war won't make those church flourish in the east. The average igbo Christian does not see Oyedepo first as a Yoruba then as a man of God but the other way. So sees no difference between Pastor Kunle and pastor Chukwudi because he is more interested in their power from God than in their ethnic background. Hence he can even "patronize" the former more if that's where he feels his spiritual boat gets floated.

That is why the average igbo man can be very surprised why he gets soo much hate from westerners and SS people whom he sees through the lens of religious brotherhood not knowing that the other sides has a completely different concept as their overriding factor towards others.

As for not allowing Igbos have power, everyone see where that "wise" decision has led the country. Only fools do thesane thing over and over and expect a different result and only fools can prefer and lead a country soo rich with everything bature can offer into a bloody soaking sh*hole for yhis long. So you can judge for yourself

Oga you still young. Colonization flows from top down. Like I said you are still explaining like a child. Once war are. won the spoiled are shared. The economy, the politics and the religion goes to the conquerors.

If you go to nnpc and all the top government paraStata it'd dominated by this two, so is the politics. Their print's is there. The religion as an institution will not be differnt. Minor ethic groups can have stake. Just like it is with the afore mentioned institutes, but not a dominant say.

The patterns speaks volume across this institutions enough. You just don't want to see it. Because in your beautiful child like mind the world is one lovely place and we always hold handa and sing kumbaya.

Anyways.

You are yet to answer the question why their are no God of chukwudi, in the west as they God of oyedepo in the east. Why are there no God of Suleman in the southwest as they are in the south. Why is the God of orishejafor not present in the west as the God of olukoya is in the south south.

Why does the God seem to allow one tribe to grow and expand and the other tribe permanently stuck in their territories.

Religion is a form of politics let it sink. Kanu knows what he us saying. Just the way and manner of hatred in his tone is what is wrong
But he see it well.

Adakintroy:


Oga you still young. Colonization flows from top down.

You are yet to answer the question why their are no God of chukwudi, in the west as they God of oyedepo in the east. Why are there no God of Suleman in the southwest as they are in the south. Why is the God.of orishejafor not present in the west as the God of adeboye.

Why does the God seem to allow one tribe to grow and expand and the other tribe permanently stuck in their territories.

How is it too hard for you to understand? The first sentence alone in that my post answers your question. The first paragraph explained and shredded you postulation.
Can you answer why thesame God of Oyedepo has not taken over the north as well?

Talking of those stuck in their territory you must be referring to SS people and in some areas westerners. Surely you can't in your normal mind accuse Igbos literally of that unless you are high enough on igbo envy or hate. Eastern tribe people stuck in their territory? Na wa nothing wey una no go accuse Igbos of. Nothing wey envy no dey induce. The very same igbos you were wailing somewhere, in this very forum not even upto 12 hours ago, that they go to other peoples place and grow expand soo much and takeover you are now accusing of being stuck in their territory. Please stop projecting SS case or your evil wet dreams against igbos about being stuck in their territory (which unfortunately in reality befell SS people after the war; your oil stolen while they made crump receiving oil gatemen of you, your land polluted with the oil you dont own and left uncleaned, your people impoverished, massacre and stuck in you territories by the very people who deceived you to hate and join them fight as against igbos yet you have no clue as to who is you real enemy).

Better still, treat your hate for igbos first so your brain can hold one line of thought, instead of opposing lines, against them. It makes you sound pathetic with hate and like some who was stuck in his village for so long that he only knows about his conflicting village folklores concerning others.

KANUISALIVE:


DIDN'T NNAMDI KANU WARN NIGERIANS ABOUT BUHARI? FACE YOUR MONSTER & FIND A WAY TO VOTE HIM OUT YOURSELVES. IPOB NEVER VOTED HIM IN AND IPOB IS NOT YOUR PROBLEM. BESIDES, TERRORISTS DON'T GET TO VOTE �. GIVE US A DATE FOR A REFERENDUM OR NOTHING WILL HAPPEN... FINITO!

Now get lost

So who are d real owners of d land and who are d fake owners of d land?

If nothing will happen without referendum, y was there gubernatorial elections in anambra last year? Is that not something that happened?

maestroferdi:
How come Nnamdi Kanu has succeeded in making millions of people reason and act like fools?

Because they are inherently fools. Same reason Trump has been successful. Miserable people want company and a movement to.justify their sad state is always welcome

Adakintroy:



You are as naive as 22yr old brother Samuel who still thinks wrestling is real.

Religion is politics. Once wars are fought, the winners get to share the spoils. Benson might be the father of modern pentecost. But his dominance just like orishejafor ends within his own territory. Yoruba and northerner runs the politics. Just as they control the religion . If its islam, its with the north,if its christainity its with the west. The third biggest ethnic group (igbos) gets nothing. Why? Because they lost the war. So God can never call them to expand. Just like God can never call them to be president. That is how the truth goes. No were will they hand this much mind under the control of an ethic group that is not from this two. It's a risk.



As for the God of apostle johnson Suleiman, he stays within a space caved for him and he is very loyal to the God of oyedepo.

Even then his territory gets shared by God of oyedepo, kumuyi, and adeboye?. But not the other way round.

The same goes for God of orishejafor. They don't get any territory aside there own. Even then the combined numbers of God of oyedepo in their territories is more than theirs in their own territory.

There is no God of ikechukwu beyond the east. How conincidental.

If you want to see friend permitted yourself to do so. Religion is politics. If you still doubt Ask osibanjo and the redeem family.

What nonsense are you talking about, so Oyedepo and Adeboye should abandon their calling and surrender their ministry just because they are Yoruba and some Igbos feels hurt about their presence, or they should put a sign outside their doors saying no Igbo allowed, or should they limit the scope of their parishes to SW only.

The chairman of RCCG United Kingdom board of trustees is Pastor Agu Irukwu a very respected pastor in that organisation, this is same across the world, I know of many Igbo senior pastors in RCCG and they are not religated many have gone from being assistant pastors in my church to go and found new parishes and unto regional headship.

That is same in winners there are many pastors of diverse ethnicities who are influential and are respected.

This is the church we are talking about not some commercial organisation

lexy2014:


So who are d real owners of d land and who are d fake owners of d land?

If nothing will happen without referendum, y was there gubernatorial elections in anambra last year? Is that not something that happened?

Those whom it concerns are taking note, don't worry sooner or later a date will be set for the referendum