kenosky:



[size=16pt]from the way u sound, i think its best if no one responds to your post any more! u tend to take things too personal! it shouldnt be like that![/size]




[size=18pt]its true what they say 'a man's name will order his footsteps!' crazy color u indeed live up to your crazy name! Must u post? Or havent u heard the saying 'that if u have nothing to say , u should just blow whistle'? [/size]

kenosky:

pak, thanx for that reminder- i ope say people go appreciate their country more! @all, thank God its friday- av a great weekend!

kuwena:

Appearance is not always reality. This is a problem of philosophy.

niyooo:


@ Pak, thanks for reminding us all to look beyond our immediate problems atimes and see other people's own. The Burma case is just so disheartening, but i think things are getting better.

stannesi:

If you can’t convince them, confuse them. lol

kenosky:

[size=15pt]aniffy, niyoo and alfaprime- your posts these days are remarkable (no b say them never dey like so since una show for thread o!). Keep up the good work! Pak, wetin man go do na? the military junta in that country knows what evil they are perpertrating- the Ibos have a saying which when transliterated reads _{'the man who kills with the matchete is always uneasy whenever a matchete is brought close to him'}.
Niyoo, actually na u wey stannesi draw (with him post wey end up confusing only himself ).

@all, hav a great weekend![/size]

kuwena:

Niyoo, I know that what I am about to do now is foolish. I am about to explain myself to you, even though Robert Greene (author of the 48 Laws of Power) has said that the more we explain ourselves, the more we risk being misunderstood. Pardon this indiscretion.

It is not in your place, Niyoo, to outrightly say that my 'business proposal' is not practicable. You are NOT an authority on businesses. And to listen to you on this issue would be stupid.

For your information, I WILL soon enough float at least one such company, in the United States of America. And it will not be up to eight years from now. I will go ahead and get 100 committed and financially endowed individuals (probably not including you), and we will float this kind of company. And it will be a revolution.

Very many things are possible. There was no aeroplane before the Wright brothers invented one; there was no electricity before Faraday; there was no atomic bomb before Einstein; even when Emeagwali was crafting his supercomputer, many thought he was mad. But he did it, and won the Gordon Bell prize.

There are so many things I have done in private that I am yet to publish. I have not been able to publish them all this while because I live in Nigeria (and you know what Nigeria is). As of today I have five unpublished literary works:

1. Ninety Negro Numbers (a 258-page autobiographical song-book)
2. Membusoje Doherty (another 258-page full-length novel)
3. The African Verses (a collection of 120 poems, not yet typed, but handwritten)
4. A Planner Defiled A People and Two Other Plays (not yet typed, but handwritten)
5. Small Small So Say (a full-length novel not completed)

I have also been working on many hypotheses in communication, mysticism and pseudoscience, such as the Catparian classification, which is the fusion of the Zodiac and the Enneagram to produce 48 personality types. I am also drawing up pseudo-spiritual and pseudo-psychological theories that blend modern witchcraft with astrology, seances and religion. But most of these works cannot bloom here in Nigeria, I think. (I may be wrong).

One project I intend to undertake is to be the first to fuse the usual company with the usual non-profit organization. I came up with the framework while still at Ofada. I said that I would gather 100 individuals. And I will. These individuals would contribute each a fixed amount over a period of one year into a common pool.

Logic of the above: Cults have donations that bind them, usually one another's blood that they drink during meetings. Cult masters collect followers who are willing to donate their 'precious' blood, and drink other people's blood even at the risk of HIV/AIDS. The task for me would be to, through extensive persuasion, comb the USA and look for 100 people who can commit their 'precious' money and form a cult-company.

Of these hundred individuals, twenty would resign their jobs and float the company proper. The rest 80 would still be cult members. Now, in ordinary parlance, they would be called the board of directors (non-executive directors).

Logic of the above: Cults have members with specific portfolios, who have specific roles to perform. These roles justify their existence in the Fraternity. In the case of the Catpar, the cult-company, the purpose is simply not to be a cult, but to facilitate the industrial and psychological transformation of Africa. The Brotherhood, having 'assumed' that it is industries that Africa needs would not be content with only spiritual activities, but with economic ones as well.

Now, the twenty executive directors would divide themselves into four:

a. Outreach
b. Business Development
c. Financial Management
d. Corporate Affairs.

a. Outreach: The individuals in Outreach would be responsible for going 'out there' to scout for creative geniuses. These would be people who can create stuff, but do not have the money or the savvy to turn their bright ideas into businesses. They would be black people primarily, and they would be willing to share their ideas with our Cult-company, so that we can help them. The outreach people would use multi-media approaches to collect these people. They would be social workers, mass communicologists and social psychologists, among others.

b. Business Development: The individuals in Business Development would be responsible for turning the creative ideas proposed by the geniuses into viable businesses. They would serve as representatives with banks that may sometimes be called upon to provide the necessary funding. They would also help the geniuses to plan workable business proposals, and to draw up Memoranda of Understanding and what have you. Individuals here would have studied Business Administration, Economics, Banking and Finance; but they would also have studied Art, Engineering and so forth, as geniuses could come from these areas.

c. Financial Management: The individuals in Financial Management would be responsible for making sure that that initial pool of money that the Cultists (Board of Directors) contributed keeps multiplying. They would invest such money in long, short and medium term deals. They would make sure that the asset base of the company kept ever strong, so that the company lived forever.

d. Corporate Affairs: The individuals in Corporate Affairs would be responsible for the day-to-day running of the company: secretaries; clerks; lawyers, human resources, and so forth. They would be in charge of business and external relations as well. They would also keep the company's books. The HR people in particular would be in charge of recruiting from outside. They would induct new 'cultists' who have no shares, but who work for the company. Their status in the Cult though would differ.

Now, as a Cult, the Catpar would function as a cult. All the Hundred Brothers would have both financial and moral stakes in it. Financial because they contributed cash to the company charged with the practical aspect of bringing a radical developmental change to Africa, and Moral because they would promise to stick to all the emotional (or psychological, or spiritual, depending on how you view it) ideals of the Cult. They would attend meetings, share things in common; they would love one another as Brothers. They would practice the Spiritual exercises, and learn about the separation, development, integration and transcendence of the human personality, sexuality, spirituality and vocation; they would also learn how to be measures and ends for all humanity. It will NOT be a secret cult. Activities of the Cult will be published in all the media, and the cult would have a regular teevee program: HEALING THE MOTHERLAND. This program would be geared towards using the television to campaign for radical developmental change for Africa. By the by it would even have its own station, like Christ Embassy does. It will be non-religious, and there will be no oaths, or wearing of sacred uniforms. Sacrifices, if any, would be free-willed and entirely psychological, like my Three Sacrifices. There will be NOTHING secret about the Catpar.

As a company, it will be a Public Limited Liability Company, just like others. Name them: Intercontinental, UBA, Globacom, and so forth. As a company, it will be registered with the requisite body in the USA, and incorporated under its laws. As a company, it will be a Corporate entity and contribute to the American economy first, and then to the rest of the world. As a company, it will pay corporate taxes, and publish Financial Statements, showing Balance Sheet, Profit and Loss, and Corporate Social Responsibility statistics. As a company, it will pay regular dividends to the Hundred Brothers and to as many as would join later. There will be two or more kinds of membership: Brothers, and Workers. The former would own shares, and the later would simply be employed by the company. It will be a regular company in the sense of all the foregoing.

I fear I have said too much. But I am not just ranting. I intend to do all I have said. And believe me, I will try to the best of my ability. And if it does not work, it will not be because I did not try. But in a corner of my heart, I know somehow that it will work. All it will take is PERSUASION. Lots and lots of it. To get 99 others like me.

kuwena:


2. Niyoo, Kwame Nkrumah was a politician. Achebe is a writer. Who would I rather believe on political issues? (recall the error called 'ad verencundiam'?)

[size=15pt] , Its a free world![/size]

kuwena:

1. Yemi, what exactly is 'fundamental investor'?

aniffy4eva:

In simple terms, a fundamental investor is one that analyzes financial statements, examines the health of the company's management, looks at income statements, competitive advantage, competition and macroeconomic conditions before making investment decisions. I hope that answers yoru question. . .

kuwena:

Am I right to suppose, then, that a technical investor is one who goes by the stock prices and possible recommendations from stock brokers who may not have all the 'fundamental' info?

aniffy4eva:

Well, Kuwena. . .

Such businesses that are created as a fusion of a profit-oriented company with a not-for-profit company are referred to as Social Businesses. You might want to look at the Grameen-Danone model. Its a partnership between Grameen (Yunus) and the French yogurt making company Danone to provide nutritious yogurt to malnourished children in Bangladesh, and making enough profit to make it self-sustainable, at the very least.

You might also want to pick up his book, "Creating a world without poverty"- he (Yunus) wrote extensively about it.

Although the ownership structure is much different from what you have said, i think you can pick up an idea or two from the book.

Disclosure - i am not Yunus' sales rep oh!. . .

aniffy4eva:

Well, yes and no. in the very basic form, a technical investor uses mainly stock prices (past and present) and volumes of the stock that were traded in previous sessions to make investment decisions. Thats the "yes" bit.

As for the "No" bit, if you rely solely on recommendations from your broker, that doesn't make you a technical investor. Recommendations are good as a tool, but not as the ONLY yardstick. Always remember that whatever you do, the broker will always get his commission.

niyooo:

@ all good morning, i can see the thread is progessing well. I have a few things I'll like to reply to and I don't see a way it's going to be brief so please indulge me.

[size=15pt]hmmm! I better fasten my seat belt! [/size]

Now over to u, Kuwena. We are not sparring only exchanging ideas. 

The good thing about life is one chooses who or what you want to believe, that's what makes us unique in our own different ways. You chose to agree with one great "Nkrumah" and disagree with another "Achebe". That's okay.

2. Niyoo, Kwame Nkrumah was a politician. Achebe is a writer. Who would I rather believe on political issues? (recall the error called 'ad verencundiam'?)

I don't think your response to my statement is really apt, but based on your analogy let me post this. "Femi Fani-Kayode" or "Walter Ofonagoro" or "Jerry Gana" etc is a politician but "Cardinal Olubunmi Okogie" or "Wole Soyinka" or "late Ken Saro Wiwa" or "late Fela" etc are not politicians. So who would you rather believe on political issues?    So as i posted somewhere earlier, we are all unique individuals and God has given us unique brains to think so it's up to us to choose what to agree or disagree with and not necessarily agree because anyone is an authority on a subject matter.

[size=15pt]argumentum ad verecundiam aptly put![/size]

On a lighter note, @ Kenosky on second thoughts maybe na Kuwena stannesi draw, u know say na him dey talk about cult and the pix take style resemble cult logo. Oya stannesi yarn for this matter, who you draw?