Buckubuck:


This is so untrue. But see how confident you are

Jax1:



I can see that u are lacking in common sense.. If ur father's BA cert is destroyed by termites, need I remind you that his case is not over yet? He could get another copy of it from which school he attended.

Now the issue here is about poor record keeping by the Nigerian army which I think is the newest ploy to exonerate buhari from any blame. But listen to it carefully, such nonsense excuse won't fly cos in the face of this whole issue, whether your original got missing or destroyed, ur certificate or credential is readily available from the original issuer. So go get it and stop telling us useless story.



Buhari present ur certificate...

Minjim:
Those complaining are only motivated by ignorance, hatred, money and stupidity

rusher14:


Most institutions give out a single certificate.

ebukamen:


Waec can give reissue. Buhari has Waec wahala and not most institutions' issue!

adanny01:


Certified true copy you mean.

Thats if you have a copy of the cert, the school will authenticate it as a certified true copy but will not give you a replacement for that certificate or any copy for that matter.

Schools dont keep copies of certs they give so they dont give you certified true copy if you dont bring one.

Its you the certificate holder that brings a copy of the cert for the school to authenticate as a certified true copy.

A certified true copy is not the same as the certificate.

Only an affidavit replaces the non existence of
an original certificate. A certified true copy doesnt.

Modified

Check the WAEC FAQ 18 and 14


Honestly, right from your first post on this tread, you have not shown that you really understand the process involved in the issuance of a replacement for a missing certificate in Nigeria, It is obvious that what you know is based on your father's experience and snippets of information you got from the media.

My certificates were stolen 8 years ago. This happened at a time I really needed it. Before it happened , I used to believe, just like you and so many others, that once you lose your original certificates then nothing can be done about it or you cannot get a replacement that can stand for the original. But I have since discovered that you can actually get a replacement from the original issuer to stand for the missing and burnt or even if it is with the army.

When I could not find my certificates were I kept them, I initially did not know what to do until a relative whom I narrated the incident to advised me on the actual steps to take to get them replaced. And they were simple steps.

I first of all got a police report and also an affidavit. Armed with this, I went to the university I graduated from to inform them and also to get a form of replacement. While there, I was directed to exams and records. My file was brought out to confirm if I actually graduated. When it was confirmed I was issued a formal confirmation document having my school's letter head which serves as a replacement and luckily for me the photocopy I made of my original certificate was still in my file. I was asked to make a photocopy of that too. If you have ever collected any kind of certificate you should remember that you are asked to make a copy of the original. You return this copy with a statement'original copy received by me' written by you at the bottom as a form of evidence that you collected the original. The reason I mention this, is because the military if they cannot find the original should atleast have a kind of confirmation that it was 'original submitted by me'. that they have The school he claimed to have sat for his Cambridge should also have in their file a copy with the statement 'original result received by me' . Issuing him a statement of results after so many years is not only illegal but also a crime. Statement of result is only valid for a period of time, at most 4 years and after then you do not reissue it. I got this information from a senior waec official who also told me that if your certificate is missing you go to the school were you sat for the exam and apply through them for a confirmation of result. If you are a private candidate you go to waec office and apply directly. I repeat no school as the right to issue any form of replacement without the consent of waec. If in doubt you can confirm from waec. If you lose your original, yes, go to your school but they have to contact the original exam body for a replacement. If waec is not close to confirm this, you can confirm from the principal of any school near you will be told the same thing. Most people do not know this because not many persons lose their certificates

So for me at the moment I have replacements for every of my certificate stolen even my NYSC.I choose to reply you not because of politics but to make you see that you are misinforming others who at this moment have lost their credentials or may later. Do not believe or trust everything you read in the media most of them have interest they are protecting

Finally, let your dad know he can get a replacement for his cerfitcate if he goes to his Alma mater.The process is not difficult. I am sure in his file he can find the photocopy he made while collecting the original. With a little tip he can beg to make a copy. That should be more presentable than the embarrassing remnant of the certificate he has in is possession

A lot of people now think it is difficult or practically impossible to get a replacement because of this buhari certificate saga. Other than this I do not have anything other thing against. him. The people who want to replace him cannot change Nigeria the are only fighting for their interests

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simplycarro:
Even their newly recruited chief wailer OBJ will never say such thing that PMB have no WASC

Shayetet13:


Listen carefully: My uncle, a world renowned surgeon was working with Johns hopkins in the United States. When he decided he wanted to come back to Nigeria to work, National Hospital Abuja accepted his application immediately, but by the time he came down to Nigeria, he was required to submit his basic qualifying certificates. He was even required to submit his MBBS despite having several post graduate degrees in surgery and recommendations from john hopkins. Nigeria president is the biggest job in Nigeria, not something you joke with like all of you are currently doing. Buhari ought to submit that minimum qualification even if he got courses under his belt. That general is saying rubbish. If you must show your certificate for any job in Nigeria, it applies to the president. You guys are just killing principles in the country with your dishonesty, but you do not know it

triplechoice:
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Mouth Gig:
TELL DEM LOOTERS..GOD BLESS AND PROTECT BUHARI..

jamejanev:
its only a fool will believe that Buhari doesn't have certificate. I might not be happy with his govt but I'm sure he has certificate

Jax1:


Are we not saying same thing? Go back to where you got the original and request for an alternative. Assuming l lost my waec cert, original copy, does it mean my record in waec registry is forever lost?

So let him go back and demand a copy from the original issuer. Nothing difficult about it.

Minjim:
Those complaining are only motivated by ignorance, hatred, money and stupidity

adanny01:


How is what you are saying any different to what i am saying. Did you get your original certificates back?

Did you see the screenshot i shared? Question 18 to be precise. See it below.

A certificate reads, "this is to certify that ........" or "This certifies that".

I repeat, you never get reissued a certificate when you lose it.

You get several other things, a certified true copy, a confirmation, a testimonial, a statement of result but never a replacement of that certificate. This is a fact and not an argument.

As a person who lost his documents, when you get a new job and they ask you to bring original certificates for viewing, you dont take just your certificate true copy, confirmation or whatever you got, you first of all give the affidavit that says you lost your certificate, then present the alternative you've got. Without that affidavit, nothing else would explain why you dont have a certificate. You got a confirmation and a certified true copy, they are not your certificate. There are situations you will be asked of a certificate amd not a statement.

For example, when i registered for NSE you take your original certificate for viewing. Take a statement of result, confirmation or certified true copy you will not qualify, but attach an affidavit, the affidavit enables them to accept those other documents you have.

FYI, both my parents were school principals, my father for over 20 years of his civil service career. Reissue of certificate is the crime not issueing a statement. Do you know that a confirmation of result is invalid in your hands? It is inadmissible in most cases. A confirmation is like a transcript, it is meant to be sent directly from WAEC to a third party organization.

triplechoice:



It is obvious you did not take your time to read my reply
I never at any time mention that anyone receives an original as replacement. I was giving a confirmation document as replacement not the original. When I mentioned the copy in my file in the exams and records, I explained that it was the photocopy of the original I made when I collected the original. Except you have never collected any certificate before then you should know that is one of the process. The reason I was giving that to make a copy of is because a staff who is a close relative begged on my behalf and I also tipped them if not you do not have access to the copy in your file.

It has occur to me now that it was cambridge and not WAEC that conducted the exam which certificate is now in dispute. So it seems you do not really have all the facts concerning this issue. We do not know the exact procedure for cambridge. But if we assume it this same and we want to use the document you pasted then I can tell you that what you have there is only a brief explanation of the process.

Statements of results are no longer reissued once the certificate is already. out. If you lose your certificate after collecting it you do not go back to demand for statement of result. What the school does is to initiate the process of confirmation on your behalf. Now the question is, did the principal initiate,this process on behalf of the president. If he did, then confirmation should be out by now and if not why? That is the only means to resolve this issue. The confirmation will authenticate whatever statement of result that the principal has already issued out. Affidavit cannot help in this case, If it is confirmed that the statement of result is not correct and the said candidate did not sit for the exam it means the he has lied under oath.

It seems you do not know that the result and the exam belongs to Cambridge, This is not a university certificate. When there is any dispute concerning a secondary school certificate, it is the examination body which the school is affiliated to that validates it. I said it was illegal -—maybe not a crime yet—because the school principal did not follow the right process. If we accept that he did was the right thing then it means anyone can walk into any schoo and demand for statement of result. Do not forget that the said original was issued over 60 years ago. Why a statement now and not a confirmation?

To put and end to this matter let the school initiate the process of confirmation once that is done and it is confirmed, case close. The army can continue to have it in their possession. It does not matter anymore.
Finally, the fact that your dad has over 20 years experience in public service does not mean he has experienced it all. You said what he has is an affidavit and a remnant of his certificate. Why has he not gone for confirmation yet? does it mean he is not aware of this? University hand over to you a document which stand for the original. Unlike a secondary school, it is not sent on your behalf to any person or organization.

adanny01:


In the same vein you didn't take time to read my post cause i never said your certificate issuer will not give you anything.

I said they wont give you the certificate you lost back. Its you who went into further stories and even cover exactly what i said.

You are even lucky your school keeps a copy of the cert. My school does not. You sign a register that you collected it and thats the end. You can get a statement of result for yourself a confirmation or transcript to thirdparty institutions.

Guy your long epistle carries many irrelevant statements.

So it is now that you know its Cambridge, yet you continue to talk like it is me who doesnt know. I knew this fact since 2015, how come you are getting to know that now. Please use your head, reasearch before writing things you dont know and insinuate others dont know.

If Cambridge conducted Buhari's exams in 1961, and WAEC was established in 1952, who do you think Cambridge conducted the exams for. Where do you think WAEC originated from?

Back to my father, if you are a 25 yr old graduated who lost his certificate and my father is a 69yr old retiree who also lost his certificate, who between the 2 of you needs a confirmation of his certificate? What does my father need his certificate for after retirement?

Think of what you are writing before it turns to an insult.

All this Buhari matter you guys are peddling has been properly trashed out in 2015 and its a none issue. Anyone continuing the issue is either uninformed or gullible.

Even the grades he had was trashed up to Cambridge. Cambridge even replied alot of queries on Buhari's result. Its left up to you to research and arm yourself with details.

I blame myself for arguing with you who just found out Cambridge conducted WASC during the 50s and 60s. If you just found that one out, there are alot you will find out. Dont keep arguing without the whole facts.

Oh, in addition, do you know what a confirmation is? Its a letter telling who ever you present yourself to that you are a graduate of the school. It doesn't replace your certificate in whatever way. Do you know that even those who have completed the requisite conditions for the award of a degree but have not been awarded can get a confirmation.

I had one in which i used to get a job before i went for NYSC. When you get a Federal Civil Service job, present a confirmation and see how your employment will be thrown to the next person.

Lastly, do you know why a certificate is irreplaceable? Its because it carries security features no other document you have will get. When you deal with government or its agencies or organized private sector or foreign institutions, they deal with either your certificate or transcript delivered directly from your school. The only other thing that they deal with is a police report and affidavit. Dont decieve yourself, the affidavit you have is much more important to the confirmation you have.

triplechoice:



It is very pathetic to see that your replies do not reflect any understanding of anything I have said

When I mentioned In my previous post that it just occurred to me that it was cambridge not WAEC that conducted the exam, you interpreted it to mean I just knew now.Recollecting a fact now does not mean you do not know it before. It. (No1.) You are among one of those misinforming people that it was WAEC if not why the WAEC extract you posted. Check this tread and any other one concerning this issue, all you see is WAEC. Instead of excepting your mistake you want to mischievously turn it around to show I just knew now. You have failed woefully

Let me try and explain in a simple way the issue in contention so you can understand and reply appropriately. Someone swore to an affidavit that his original credentials are missing. Another says it is not true that the person at anytime actually had any certificate. So what happens? Let us go to court. What will the court do? Demand a confirmation on the authenticity of the result in contention. from who? The secondary school or Cambridge? My answer? Cambridge and not the school. Now"
why allow the matter to drag to the extent of going to court and you spending millions of naira to hire SANS to defend you in a matter you can easily solve by getting confirmation from Cambridge with less than 10 thousand naira. If you are in that same position what would you do.?


Finally, people swore to and affidavit claiming what is not true. Does it mean anyone cannot challenge it in a court of law if the person has evidence that you lied under oath
Hope you reply show a thorough understanding of the matter at hand if not I would not bother to reply you

adanny01:


It is your comprehension that sends you into all this arguments you keep bouncing here and there.

Now, you want to drag me into the insensible court cases politicians use to intimidate themselves. I aint going that route with you.

Check the results very well. I hope you see WAEC where it reads "PHOTOSTAT FOR USE OF SCHOOL STAFF AND WEST AFRICAN EXAMINATION COUNCIL ONLY". There lies your last answer.

Mind you, my advise to you is never leave your affidavit behind when asked to show up with your certificate. Thats my issue.

triplechoice:



You are posting a document which has not been confirmed as genuine by the original owners of the exam to convince me or anyone.?You keep exhibiting ignorance. Twisting and turning like a clueless footballer and in the giving out a wayward pass

And the university of Cambridge at the top of it, that is, if it is genuine, does not mean anything to you?

It is funny you advising me on always having my affidavit with me whenever I need to present my credentials a thing I have been doing for close to 8years now.

adanny01:


Good, continue to do so.

The result talies to what the school released to him as his results.

Accept it or sue him.

Lastly, if operation show your cert is carried out now, even you dont have a certificate. What is good for the goose is good for the gander.

triplechoice:


You say the result released to him? has he ever at any time acknowledged it and presented it to INEC.

An obviously forged document that has been avoided like plague by the person that is supposed to accept it, is what you are using to support your argument?

My affidavit and the supporting documents which represents my missing credentials is legally acceptable even outside this country. If you do not no this, then it means you are stubbornly ignorant. I have been employed with it in the civil service since 2018,done numerous screening/ verification of results without any problem and you want to say I do not have a certificate. You claim to be a graduate but I am afraid you are not reasoning like one.


Maybe you should contact the presidency on their Twitter handle to advise them to submit the. so called result from the school. I wish you good luck with that
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