rusher14:


Comparing apples and oranges.

With the military, you don't own your personal certificates, the board does.

If by discharge they lose it, they should own up to it.
Losing it does not debar the individual from having aspirations.

A sworn affidavit is acceptable by various institutions including INEC.

Should you feel such a person doesn't have the requisite, the law courts can help in arbitration.

Note as well, the constitution doesn't expressly ask for WAEC results.

All our constitution asks is that the individual must have a minimum of a school certificate.

By the way it is JOHNS HOPKINS.

Is Buhari the only military ex that went for elective office? Obasanjo, David Mark etc. Did they say that sh*t Buhari is saying now? Well its Johns Hopkins

Let him present thedamn thing instead of all these side talks.
Simple

Why do you deliberately mislead? You can get a certified true copy that has same content with the original. Only difference is that it's a copy but authenticated

adanny01:


I really thought you were gullible but with the bolded, its obvious you are either uninformed or naive.

Original certificates are not recreateable and hence cannot be reissued. Guy hold onto your certs well, you will never get them back if you lose it.

Lose you WAEC cert and you lose it forever. What you get is a testimonial. You can always request for a transcript of your bachelors but that cert is irreplaceable.

If he says the army has and and he swears to that, any accusation by you or anyone remains a propaganda.

Fire destroys your cert, it goes forever, the only document that can subtitute the actual cert is a police report in conjunction with a sworn affidavit.

RatedStar:
If the Nigerian Army are with his certificate, and PMB now the boss of said army, why can’t they come out to clear the whole issue up ones and for all?

They think we are stupid

agabusta:



All this your story does not disprove what the retired General said.

The man said all military personnel are required to lodge their original certificates with the military.

How does that relate to other establishments asking just to sight them?

Major Al Mustapha has equally come out to say his originals were also collected by the Army. Do you have a contrary opinion to this?

Buhari and Mustapha werent the only ex military going for elective offices. Do remember that! Obasanjo, David mark etc. Did they say that sh*t buhari is saying now? Lets not destroy foundations because the people we like didnt get it right. Its the future of the country. If this becomes a norm, it will be highly unfortunate because it will be so abused. If we are to grow beyond this as a country, these are the simple things we should stamp our feet and insist the right things are done

Shayetet13:


Is Buhari the only military ex that went for elective office? Obasanjo, David Mark etc. Did they say that sh*t Buhari is saying now? Well its Johns Hopkins

Buhari has been contesting since 2003 and for the first time this issue came up in 2015. Nigeria is a place where evil thrives and would surprise no one if his records were compromised.

In any case, if our pensioners from the 90s had their records in this manner, it's safe to say anything could have happened to a General's.

Shayetet13:


Is Buhari the only military ex that went for elective office? Obasanjo, David Mark etc. Did they say that sh*t Buhari is saying now? Well its Johns Hopkins

Because they found theirs doesn't preclude that the military lost Buhari's.

Al Mustapha has just made the same statement in any case.

IrokoOluwere:

Honestly!
How can you say a whole GENERAL has no certificate?
A whole fuckin_ GENERAL

Going by this, I can apply for a job that requires a Ph.D when I have none, and claim I do have, if I'm able to reason like people on a Ph.D level.

There's a reason certifications are leaded, otherwise the works would slowly descend into anarchy.

No one is doubting that he's educated. Just show proof of your education. It's quite simple.

Honestly you guys are doing a very bed job. There are better ways of packaging your man instead of just shoving him down our throats and giving the usual "How can a General not be educated". Buhari has never portrayed himself as someone who has independently read a page of any book in his own. His lack of historical accuracy, and seeming cluelessness on issues are not the only pointers to such fact.

Y'all should pick or choose another means. But you can't just force us to accept an uneducated man. It's sheer stupidity.

Shayetet13:


What happens to your father applying to his institution for another cert or atleast a cover document for an affidavit. If we make this a norm without writing our former institutions for a cover document, people without certificates will claim that Termite ate their certificates and get affidavit. Buhari could write Waec for a cover document. That will tell us truly, he didnt enter the Military cutting corners. Now you said Army collects certificates. Do remember that Buhari isnt the only Army person who ran for office. Obansanjo and David Mark readily comes to mind. Did they say that my cert is with military shit?

You made some sense, yes my father has an affidavit. Buhari has an affidavit too.

My father's affidavit says his cert was destroyed by termites, he has the remaining part of it as proof. Buhari cannot claim his cert was destroyed by termites fire or anything as such. His affidavit says he gave it to the military so they can provide it. What this means is that he probably tried to get it from them but they misplaced it or lost the record of it. They cannot give a cover document to him for it. They can only respond to a third party inquiry, in this case INEC can ask them to clarify or produce it.

If at all you have been following this case, his result was made public.

rusher14:


Because they found theirs doesn't preclude that the military lost Buhari's.

Al Mustapha has just made the same statement in any case.

Then Buhari should write the military to confirm they lost it. Its not enough, but we can start from there

Shayetet13:


Then Buhari should write the military to confirm they lost it. Its not enough, but we can start from there

If you are so unhappy about this issue, the Law court is an option.

IrokoOluwere:

Honestly!
How can you say a whole GENERAL has no certificate?
A whole fuckin_ GENERAL

Then he should provide it. He controls the military.

adanny01:


You made some sense, yes my father has an affidavit. Buhari has an affidavit too.

My father's affidavit says his cert was destroyed by termites, he has the remaining part of it as proof. Buhari cannot claim his cert was destroyed by termites fire or anything as such. His affidavit says he gave it to the military so they can provide it. What this means is that he probably tried to get it from them but they misplaced it or lost the record of it. They cannot give a cover document to him for it. They can only respond to a third party inquiry, in this case INEC can ask them to clarify or produce it.

If at all you have been following this case, his result was made public.

Are you saying that the stuff you posted is from Waec? Are you sure?

Are there no way we can verify from WAEC who and who did not write their exams? Maybe WAEC too don't have records

DMerciful:
Why do you deliberately mislead? You can get a certified true copy that has same content with the original. Only difference is that it's a copy but authenticated

Certified true copy you mean.

Thats if you have a copy of the cert, the school will authenticate it as a certified true copy but will not give you a replacement for that certificate or any copy for that matter.

Schools dont keep copies of certs they give so they dont give you certified true copy if you dont bring one.

Its you the certificate holder that brings a copy of the cert for the school to authenticate as a certified true copy.

A certified true copy is not the same as the certificate.

Only an affidavit replaces the non existence of an original certificate. A certified true copy doesnt.

Modified

Check the WAEC FAQ 18 and 14

IrokoOluwere:

We’re talking GENERAL IN THE ARMY . You’re talking speaker . Lmao
Wetin we no go see on Nairaland

Is buhari the only general in Nigerian army? Was obasanjo not also a retired general and he submitted his credentials to inec? Buhari has been a deceiver all these years and this time around he will not succeed

miqos02:
The former Chief of staff, Lt. General Ipoola Alani Akinrinade, Sunday, slammed those criticizing President Muhammadu Buhari over his statement that his West African School Certificate Examination certificate, WACE, was with the Nigerian Army.

In a statement disclosed by Mr President’s special adviser on Media and Publicity, Femi Adesina, the former Chief of Defence Staff insisted that Buhari has a certificate.

Angered at the spate at which Nigerians lambast Buhari over his certificate, Akinrinade blamed the Nigeria’s recording system. His words, “How many years ago ?… 50 years. And Nigeria with our (poor) record keeping and filing things into an archive. If we have an archive at all; an archive inhabited by rats and cockroaches. I think it’s an insult”.

However, clearing the air he said that the certificate saga was an insult to the Nigerian Army, noting that the time Buhari joined the Armed forces ‘there were no cutting corners’.

Read the full statement below:

“… The most annoying one is the case about (Muhammadu) Buhari not having a Certificate.

It is an insult to the Armed Forces, a terrible insult to the Armed Forces.

If they are so embedded in the system and they have lost their souls, then they can go ahead and join everybody else in castigating a General of Buhari’s calibre.

They are now talking about a School Certificate.

By the time he joined the Army in those days, there were no cutting corners.

It is later when these same Civilians took over from the Army that admission into it became less transparent.

I can give you an instance.

There was Course Five around 1964: if one did not have a School Certificate, one couldn’t apply to join the Army.

And I know up to 1963 when the last General Officer Commanding left Nigeria, there were no corners to be cut.

There was no such thing. Everything was on merit.

And that was how it was till Buhari’s time.

Buhari attended the Mons (Officer Cadet School in Aldershot in England) and the Staff College.

I don’t want to think they have an idea what they teach in those places.

And the rest of us pretend as if we don’t know what they do there.

You send a man to America for one and a half years in a Military School.

Do they think he just went there to learn how to fire a rifle ?

No.

As I speak to you, I don’t know where my original Certificate is because we gave the original to the Military Board.

They took it from us when we applied to join the Army.

You give the original copy of credentials to the Board.

They take it and keep it in your file, that’s what happened.

How many years ago ?… 50 years.

And Nigeria with our (poor) record keeping and filing things into an archive. If we have an archive at all; an archive inhabited by rats and cockroaches. I think it’s an insult.

I take it as a personal insult”

– Gen Alani Akinrinade.


https://www.vanguardngr.com/2018/10/buharis-certificate-saga-its-an-insult-to-the-armed-forces-gen-alani-akinrinade/amp/

This Man is terribly silly n stupid.

Sorry Sir! Its painful indeed. Remember this is Nigeria where people politicize everything including the water we drink!

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It's an insult to Nigeria armed forces agreed. But there's processes and principles in every sane organization, not to talk of a country. If a PhD holder goes for job interviews, he/she is demanded to show his FSLC for sighting, why ?
If buhari cannot find his certificate as a c in c after same having been challenged before he rose to power, then fish is smelling. The honourable thing is for him to do one term and go home after all many look forward to this opportunity but can't find.

We are opening opportunity for scammers if buhari is allowed to rule again with the so rummored certificate of a thing. There will be no legal and moral grounds to stop another person in the future who may come up with similar claims and proclamation. Rule is rule and should be sacrosanct. Then, if the military have lost the records, they can get to court secure an affidavit for their men whose records are lost.

But one thing baffles me, Buhari if he wins 2019, has only 6yrs to go else 2yrs. How would a country of +180million people be relying on 1man, who should even be in retirement, resting, mentoring and coaching having put so many years for the entity called Nigeria. How come, him buhari, had not coached or mentored someone with same ideology for today. Truth be told, Subaru himself attested to, the ict world of today does not favor crops of leaders of his age except those who had remained in governance whereas Nigerian political landscape had retired this energetic general to political limbo.

My big question! when buhari is done, what's the fate of Nigerians. In would encourage we build institutions and processes, energize them and let it in motion, then corruption fighting would have been set in auto mode. At this point any driver would drive.

Shayetet13:


Are you saying that the stuff you posted is from Waec? Are you sure?

Be my guest and try.

You can only apply for correction of an original cert, there is even a time limit to that. You will even have to return the original collected.

but buhari should also have a copy of his result or the waec board should.. pls stop defending nonsense

PrecisionFx:



This Man is terribly silly n stupid.

The vex with which you wrote this comment tells me much about your view point.

Sorry who is the person asking for the certificate? INEC or who? OK social media, they will get it through social media rants and as well decide who qualified or not. If INEC, they know how they ve been getting it all this while from all contestant.

Mr man think, presidency isn't military, they're 2 different things. Millitary taining school cert are meant to be useful if you're still in the millitary, can u use a native doctor cert to work in a specialist hospital?
Mr man think please.

seunmsg:
It is only a foolish person that would think a retired general that attended some of the best military training schools around the world is an illiterate and not qualified to contest.


Lalasticlala, this should be on front page.

IrokoOluwere:

Honestly!
How can you say a whole GENERAL has no certificate?
A whole fuckin_ GENERAL

will you keep quiet, he was admitted without any credentials been he from the north and been from less privileged state.

IrokoOluwere:
Honestly! How can you say a whole GENERAL has no certificate? A whole fuckin_ GENERAL

Then he should just tender it na, what is difficult in doing that!

adanny01:


Be my guest and try.

You can only apply for correction of an original cert, there is even a time limit to that. You will even have to return the original collected.

Considering that Obasanjo and Mark who entered Military around or even earlier that Buhari never said that Sh*t. Why was Buhari trying to evade the court compelling Waec to state whether he did exams or not like was done recently in Adelekes matter. Instead he hired SANs to fustrate the case. What was he afraid of? Sometimes lets reason logically despite our love or hatred for Buhari. He could have just allowed the court to compel Waec to make a statement and clear the issue once and for all

Shayetet13:

Considering that Obasanjo and Mark who entered Military around or even earlier that Buhari never said that Sh*t. Why was Buhari trying to evade the court compelling Waec to state whether he did exams or not like was done recently in Adelekes matter. Instead he hired SANs to fustrate the case. What was he afraid of? Sometimes lets reason logically despite our love or hatred for Buhari. He could have just allowed the court to compel Waec to make a statement and clear the issue once and for all

His waec result is in the public domain. Those argue it do it for certain reasons, i say its propaganda.

adanny01:


I really thought you were gullible but with the bolded, its obvious you are either uninformed or naive.

Original certificates are not recreateable and hence cannot be reissued. Guy hold onto your certs well, you will never get them back if you lose it.

Lose you WAEC cert and you lose it forever. What you get is a testimonial. You can always request for a transcript of your bachelors but that cert is irreplaceable.

If he says the army has and and he swears to that, any accusation by you or anyone remains a propaganda.

Fire destroys your cert, it goes forever, the only document that can subtitute the actual cert is a police report in conjunction with a sworn affidavit.

Are we not saying same thing? Go back to where you got the original and request for an alternative. Assuming l lost my waec cert, original copy, does it mean my record in waec registry is forever lost?

So let him go back and demand a copy from the original issuer. Nothing difficult about it.

Jax1:


Are we not saying same thing? Go back to where you got the original and request for an alternative. Assuming l lost my waec cert, original copy, does it mean my record in waec registry is forever lost?

So let him go back and demand a copy from the original issuer. Nothing difficult about it.

Check this out and tell what it is.

adanny01:


The vex with which you wrote this comment tells me much about your view point.

And ur comment clearly presents the fact that u are educated n yet u insist that a terribly failed certificateless man over 80 years of age and also has dementia n Alzheimer's should continue ruling over u until he dies.

Buhari doesn't have a WAEC certificate, If he had one, he would have brought it out for elections since 2003.

adanny01:


I really thought you were gullible but with the bolded, its obvious you are either uninformed or naive.

Original certificates are not recreateable and hence cannot be reissued. Guy hold onto your certs well, you will never get them back if you lose it.

Lose you WAEC cert and you lose it forever. What you get is a testimonial. You can always request for a transcript of your bachelors but that cert is irreplaceable.

If he says the army has and and he swears to that, any accusation by you or anyone remains a propaganda.

Fire destroys your cert, it goes forever, the only document that can subtitute the actual cert is a police report in conjunction with a sworn affidavit.

So na u burn Buharis WAEC result? .