khiaa:


Well, you know we get inspired sometimes.

OK good night lady

solite3:
Paul wrote under the inspiration of God, for someone to try to paint it like it was Paul's personal sentiment lacks a good and sound knowledge of about the bible.

2 Timothy 3:16
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

Paul wrote under the inspiration of God, but Paul still wrote it anyway not God. Even Paul argued against being bound by mere letters from ink.
The written words are inspired by God for our learning, correction, reproof and doctrine, but not all can be profitable for doctrine at the same time. For example, some stories in the bible cannot be used for doctrine, so we must learn to rightly divide the word of truth in order to get the best out of the bible and most importantly to hear what the spirit is saying today.
Again when Paul wrote those scriptures you quoted, not all of the bible was put together at that point, he wasn't referring to the new testament even but just the Jewish tanach he knew.

Ladyhippolyta88:

Which of them?
Is it zeus or Jupiter Horus etc.
was it the earth he/she created alone what happened to the other planets? I am just wondering anyway good night.If there are any further mentions I shall respond tomorrow if need be.

Why bring up those other names when I already gave you his name, YAHuwah and his son Yahushua, the true God of the true Hebrews, not those white imposters in Israel of today, those are descendants of Polish, Russian, and German converts. Yah created the heaven and the earth, the heavens includes all of the planets. Goodnight.

Ladyhippolyta88:
Natural law is not always the universal law and there is a point to which natural law can be taken seriously.Nah the man said hogwash he could not even admit that leadership means different things to different people.For example I could see leadership qualities in you but not in him.The only thing I can agree on is that on terms of physical strength men have the Upper hand and in regard to that there are exceptions.

physical quality is very important cause life is survival of the fittest

but point is leadership does not automate to superiority , someone has to take charge in a system and in those days who do u think would take charge?

maybe now in the 21st century it MIGHT ( key word is might oh) not be necessary and like Jesus said old things have passed away and behold all things have become new .

This is even prove that Jesus is against the old testament that's why he was crucified because he broke their laws and Christians are Jesus followers

so no Christianity does not mean to dehumanise women

JjBankys:
OK good night lady

Goodnight.

See how some people are talking about God's inspired book the bible like it's some.......


Many people are trully pre-destined for hell!!!

marvinsync:





is the head inferior?

do u respect someone lower than u?

do u really need it to be spelt out

The head is neither superior nor inferior, it is only the head. I respect those who respect me, which are the ones who deserve respect, it has nothing to do with whose lower than whom. Your white Jesus was seen as the lowest of low to a lot of people, so low that the story goes they killed him' but he was also respected by a lot of people, so what is your point?

marvinsync:




physical quality is very important cause life is survival of the fittest

but point is leadership does not automate to superiority , someone has to take charge in a system and in those days who do u think would take charge?

maybe now in the 21st century it MIGHT ( key word is might oh) not be necessary and like Jesus said old things have passed away and behold all things have become new .

This is even prove that Jesus is against the old testament that's why he was crucified because he broke their laws and Christians are Jesus followers

so no Christianity does not mean to dehumanise women

leadership qualities abounds in both genders.
physical quality in what sense? Physical strength was important then not now technology has taken care of that nowadays you merit leadership and intelligence does matter.Lets not bring Jesus into this you cannot tell me he died for my sins and I am still a sinner who might end up in hell despite him dying for me.Your answer wasn't the one I was expecting I thought it would be be devoid of religious attachments good night.

khiaa:


Why bring up those other names when I already gave you his name, YAHuwah and his son Yahushua, the true God of the true Hebrews, not those white imposters in Israel of today, those are descendants of Polish, Russian, and German converts. Yah created the heaven and the earth, the heavens includes all of the planets. Goodnight.

lol goodnight.

Daejoyoung:

Paul wrote under the inspiration of God, but Paul still wrote it anyway not God. Even Paul argued against being bound by mere letters from the pen.
The written words are inspired by God for our learning, correction, reproof and doctrine, but not all can be profitable for doctrine at the same time. For example, some stories in the bible cannot be used for doctrine, so we must learn to rightly divide the word of truth in order to get the best out of the bible and most importantly to hear what the spirit is saying today.
Again when Paul wrote those scriptures you quoted, not all of the bible was put together at that point, he wasn't referring to the new testament but the Jewish tanach he knew.

is there any book in the bible God wrote himself?
all stories in the bible are for doctrines.

Paul was not referring to the new testament? what do you know about church history? do you know the letters of Paul and that of the other apostles were read and treated the same way as the other scriptures in the early church?

the church never knew only the old testament scripture.

Ladyhippolyta88:
Natural law is not always the universal law and there is a point to which natural law can be taken seriously.To what point can you define something as natural law? the man said hogwash he could not even admit that leadership means different things to different people.For example I could see leadership qualities in you but not in him.The only thing I can agree on is that on terms of physical strength men have the Upper hand and in regard to that there are exceptions.History shows of some great leaders who were women out there and same history tells us of how some men were terrible leaders.Should I say it was natural law.Of course some men being leaders and creating nuclear weapons has really brought peace and stability world over.

Allow me to intervene on this conversation regarding the issue of being a leader, a leader is somebody with the ability to lead a group of people.

regardless of what the person has done or the atrocities that he had committed. one of the ways in which to ascertain if somebody is a good leader is by counting the amount of people who actually believed in his ideals to the very end, a case of Hitler who till today still have a number of people who believe in his ideals.

There are great leaders who have committed great atrocities in this world but they are still regarded as some of the best.

Ladyhippolyta88:
leadership qualities abounds in both genders.
physical quality in what sense? Physical strength was important then not now technology has taken care of that nowadays you merit leadership and intelligence does matter.Lets not bring Jesus into this you cannot tell me he died for my sins and I am still a sinner who might end up in hell despite him dying for me.Your answer wasn't the one I was expecting I thought it would be be devoid of religious attachments good night.lol goodnight.

I brought up Jesus because u were talking about the Bible and saying it doesn't support women

and I'm saying yes old testament doesn't but CHRISTIANITY does support women

now u say leadership quality is abound in both genders , well then look at the world


since this is the 21st century and women are just as populated as men , who's in charge ?

in America that is as "developed" as possible , who controls the country?

dearie it's a man's world for a reason !

khiaa:


The head is neither superior nor inferior, it is only the head. I respect those who respect me, which are the ones who deserve respect, it has nothing to do with whose lower than whom. Your white Jesus was seen as the lowest of low to a lot of people, so low that the story goes they killed him' but he was also respected by a lot of people, so what is your point?

the head has more power and more power means superior

izza simple sturvs

solite3:
is there any book in the bible God wrote himself?
all stories in the bible are for doctrines.

Paul was not referring to the new testament? what do you know about church history? do you know the letters of Paul and that of the other apostles were read and treated the same way as the other scriptures in the early church?

the church never knew only the old testament scripture.

Nah, all stories are not for doctrine. For example, Lot being raped by his daughters should not be taught in Sunday school, it's just history giving us a background of things and telling it like it is, there is hardly any moral that comes from that story because it wasn't meant to teach you morals at that point, but to give you history of the Moabites who later became enemies of the Jews.
Another example is Paul advising Timothy to drink just a little wine for his stomach sake, Paul wasn't talking to you specifically there, but it was just an advice from a caring elder to a young man.
As to your last point, it is clear that when that passage was written, not all of the new testament have been put together, and some were yet to be written even.

marvinsync:



the head has more power and more power means superior

izza simple sturvs

Power doesn't equate superiority, is that why most Nigerians think that whites are superior to them?

Daejoyoung:

Nah, all stories are not for doctrine. For example, Lot being raped by his daughters should not be taught in Sunday school, it's just history giving us a background of things and telling it like it is, there is hardly any moral that comes from that story because it wasn't meant to teach you morals at that point, but to give you history of the Moabites who later became enemies of the Jews.
Another example is Paul advising Timothy to drink just a little wine for his stomach sake, Paul wasn't talking to you specifically there, but it was just an advice from a caring elder to a young man.
To your last point, it is clear that when that passage was written, not all of the new testament have been put together, and some were yet to be written even.

you are far from it. All scripture is for not only doctrine alone but for reproof, correction and instruction in righteousness.

the morality that can be learnt from the story of lot is deep clear.
Paul's advice for Timothy to stop drinking water only but to take wine also is also another great lesson about taking care of our bodies rightly.
the fact that you don't know something doesn't mean it is false.

2 Timothy 3:16
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:



to your last reply, yes not all new testament was written but majority of them were already available such as the gospels and the epistles of Paul and Peter, when the other scriptures were finally completed it was duely recognized just like other scriptures.

ednut1:
d old testament is a jewish book. The jewish say jesus is not d saviour

Those fake jews in Israel are right about this, White Jesus is not the savior. Nigeria was colonized in the name of WHITE JESUS, resources are stolen in the name of WHITE JESUS, people sold into slavery in the name of WHITE JESUS, many Nigerians murdered in the name of WHITE JESUS and yall still worship that false entity created by a white artist, who did a painting of his white homosexual lover (Cesare Borgia) and called it Jesus Christ. The painting of Yahshua was painted white after a trip to Africa, with the discoveries of ancient painting displaying Mary (Mariyam and Yahshua) black. That is when the lie began. True story. Do some research on your own.

solite3:



you are far from it. All scripture is for not only doctrine alone but for reproof, correction and instruction in righteousness.

the morality that can be learnt from the story of lot is deep clear.
Paul's advice for Timothy to stop drinking water only but to take wine also is also another great lesson about taking care of our bodies rightly.
the fact that you don't know something doesn't mean it is false.

2 Timothy 3:16
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:



to your last reply, yes not all new testament was written but majority of them were already available such as the gospels and the epistles of Paul and Peter, when the other scriptures were finally completed it was duely recognized just like other scriptures.

So then do you drink a little wine for thy stomach sake? Has it become a law in Christianity also? simply because Paul advised Timothy?
lf you don't put the bible in proper context you would keep interpreting everything as doctrine and that is the way of the flesh not the spirit of truth.

Ladyhippolyta88:
Religion has never favoured women.Always putting women in bad light and as a source of men's misfortunes.
A simple Google search on verses and articles on how Abrahamic religions see women would make you dumbfounded.
When I was religious reading a bible passage on how wo


.men needed to keep shut in the church made me begin to ask questions.
The way religion sees women as second class beings was one of the reasons I left it .
Funny enough women seem to be more religious than men.And a visit to some religious houses you would see how the population of women in these worship centers supercedes that of men.

Take religion and throw it in the trash where it belongs. Religion is completely a man-made creation. The Bible has stories to teach us of a past history which we can learn from. Nobody should worship a book. Worship the Most High with all your heart, mind and spirit.

Ladyhippolyta88:

I have left God 100% every definition of God defined by all religion I have left it.
The only God I may claim to serve is myself
If there is any God I believe in it is my brain.

That's messed up, your brain a God, really? I have studied the sciences and even though all scientists would want to deny it, we all know that there's an intelligence behind creation, and I personally refer that being as God. But that being said, HE/SHE is neither man, woman, Christian, Buddhist, Muslim, Jew nor gentile. He is just God. Unfortunately, evil have hidden behind his marvelous works in the form of religion in order to commit the most abominable acts

marvinsync:



I brought up Jesus because u were talking about the Bible and saying it doesn't support women

and I'm saying yes old testament doesn't but CHRISTIANITY does support women

now u say leadership quality is abound in both genders , well then look at the world


since this is the 21st century and women are just as populated as men , who's in charge ?

in America that is as "developed" as possible , who controls the country?

dearie it's a man's world for a reason !

So dry.Was it only America you saw what happened to Britain, Germany or are their leaders not women and others.
Women have always contributed their quarter on the development of every nation.O am sure you know that the midterm elections in America had many women who ran and won elections.

jorion:


That's messed up, your brain a God, really? I have studied the sciences and even though all scientists would want to deny it, we all know that there's an intelligence behind creation, and I personally refer that being as God. But that being said, HE/SHE is neither man, woman, Christian, Buddhist, Muslim, Jew nor gentile. He is just God. Unfortunately, evil have hidden behind his marvelous works in the form of religion in order to commit the most abominable acts

Okay. Anyway I still stand by my opinion.

Nice although I could add that sometimes whom majority may support is not always the right decision when it comes to leadership.

mrMeen:
Allow me to intervene on this conversation regarding the issue of being a leader, a leader is somebody with the ability to lead a group of people.

regardless of what the person has done or the atrocities that he had committed. one of the ways in which to ascertain if somebody is a good leader is by counting the amount of people who actually believed in his ideals to the very end, a case of Hitler who till today still have a number of people who believe in his ideals.

There are great leaders who have committed great atrocities in this world but they are still regarded as some of the best.

Daejoyoung:

So then do you drink a little wine for thy stomach sake? Has it become a law in Christianity also? simply because Paul advised Timothy?
lf you don't put the bible in proper context you would keep interpreting everything as doctrine and that is the way of the flesh not the spirit of truth.

learn to understand something before you jump to comment.
you have deviated from what you said earlier.
drinking wine was not a doctrine but an advice to Timothy. all scripture is profitable for making doctrine is not the same as all scripture should be used as doctrine.

when he said all scripture is profitable for doctrine, do you think Paul meant that the old testament should be doctrine?
you have to be humble in order to learn.

khiaa:


Where is your proof for the embolden?

I need to proof everything. Go and study about the prophecies in the bible and their fulfillment.

Daejoyoung:

lf Jewish religion and Christianity are not thesame, then why is the old testament in the bible?
Jesus did not come to abolish the old testament, he came to give us the basic everlasting principles by which we could always understand it in the light of the times and seasons.
lt would do Christians a lot of good to accept that the bible though inspired by God, is still man made.
For men only see in part and prophesy in part. ( l Corinthians 13).

the bible was man made but the spirit of God directed every step of it.
everything God does is perfect. trying to find fault in it has been the ways for man who loves darkness rather than light.

solite3:
learn to understand something before you jump to comment.
you have deviated from what you said earlier.
drinking wine was not a doctrine but an advice to Timothy. all scripture is profitable for making doctrine is not the same as all scripture should be used as doctrine.

when he said all scripture is profitable for doctrine, do you think Paul meant that the old testament should be doctrine?
you have to be humble in order to learn.

Now you agree all scriptures cannot be used as doctrine unlike many Christians, hence we are making progress. ln that case you agree Paul was only giving a personal advice to Timothy there, hence we ain't bound by that advice to obey it to the latter? Do you agree?
Let me know, so we can move forward.

solite3:
the bible was man made but the spirit of God directed every step of it.
everything God does is perfect. trying to find fault in it has been the ways for man who loves darkness rather than light.

The spirit of God directed it doesn't make the bible perfect, the spirit gave inspiration to man, he didn't dictate it for man.
The fact that the spirit gave inspiration to the prophets and writers, means all of the bible is profitable to us, but it doesn't translate to perfection automatically.
l am not saying the bible is not a special holy book, l am only saying it comes in part, and cannot be totally perfect, hence should be read properly not necessarily to make doctrine but to garner principles.
lt is the most useful guide to us because the Holy spirit inspired it, but a guide is not necessarily a law book.
For example, a user guide to learn MATLAB in science using an old version from 2008 for instance would stil teach you the principles of matlab for 2018, but it's left to you to know how to apply it for your current work in 2018. You can't discard the old version because it is your foundation, but you have to apply it properly else you remain stuck and you go no where.

Ladyhippolyta88:

So dry.Was it only America you saw what happened to Britain, Germany or are their leaders not women and others.
Women have always contributed their quarter on the development of every nation.O am sure you know that the midterm elections in America had many women who ran and won elections.

lol I'm not talking about elected leader , it could be anyone , I'm talking about population force , the men rule the industries, the businesses , even the majority of politicians are men


and what do u mean women contribute their quarter lol not half? the remaining 3/4 who contributes it ?

and like I always say there are exceptions to things , I'm not saying women don't contribute but men superiority in the world even in places that have let women have full rights is clear


u keep insisting that women are just as strong as men then why do u always create women empowerment programs , why do u always celebrate "strong" women , why do u even have to say it? why all the lip service?

there is a stronger sex (notice I didn't use gender to avoid useless arguments) , u keep insisting on equality but there is no basis for it
,I talked about natural law and u said it doesn't always apply so tell me why doesn't it apply in this case? ur agnostic right? u must have some theory on how humans came to be ,If u believe in evolution look at the apes who's in charge?


now again there are exceptions to everything if u Ladyhippolyta88 feel ur an exception fine
but don't generalize for everybody , there are a lot of women that have accepted this fact and chosen (key word) to follow the Bible it's their choice mind ur own business!

khiaa:



Power doesn't equate superiority, is that why most Nigerians think that whites are superior to them?

as u can see the head is higher in rank

Daejoyoung:

Now you agree all scriptures cannot be used as doctrine unlike many Christians, hence we are making progress. ln that case you agree Paul was only giving a personal advice to Timothy there, hence we ain't bound by that advice to obey it to the latter? Do you agree?
Let me know, so we can move forward.

you lack understanding.
you are mischievous, you only singled out one word and ignored the rest.
your questions do not make sense.

hope you know there are people who rely on faith healing alone without drugs? this very same advice to Timothy can be used to correct such erroneous teachings and it will be accepted because Paul's advice to Timothy was inspired by God. even his own personal advice were all part of God's wisdom.

Daejoyoung:

The spirit of God directed it doesn't make the bible perfect, the spirit gave inspiration to man, he didn't dictate it for man.

yes it does mean the bible is perfect. God doesn't need to dictate something to be perfect.
do you listen to yourself? it seem you think God is like fallible man.

The fact that the spirit gave inspiration to the prophets and writers, means all of the bible is profitable to us, but it doesn't translate to perfection automatically.
l am not saying the bible is not a special holy book, l am only saying it comes in part, and cannot be totally perfect, hence should be read properly not necessarily to make doctrine but to garner principles.

the bible is not just a special holy book, it is God's only word to mankind.
you don't know the meaning of God's inspiration. if the bible is faulty then, the inspiration of God is faulty hence God is faulty.

lt is the most useful guide to us because the Holy spirit inspired it, but a guide is not necessarily a law book.
For example, a user guide to learn MATLAB in science using an old version from 2008 for instance would stil teach you the principles of matlab for 2018, but it's left to you to know how to apply it for your current work in 2018. You can't discard the old version because it is your foundation, but you have to apply it properly else you remain stuck and you go no where.

oga Matlab is not divinely inspired. everything man does can never be perfect hence the need for constant revision but God is not so. All the holy prophets including Jesus had trusted the scripture even when Jesus had a confrontation with the devil he relied on the unfailing trusted word of God.

the bible is perfect because it is God's inspiration simple, no long epistle.

if you can't follow a guide it means you don't trust it.
God is never a dictator, he is however a guide.

ignore God's principle and face the consequences simple.



Psalms 138:2
I will worship toward thy holy temple, and praise thy name for thy lovingkindness and for thy truth: for thou hast magnified thy word above all thy name.

solite3:
yes it does mean the bible is perfect. God doesn't need to dictate something to be perfect.
do you listen to yourself? it seem you think God is like fallible man.

the bible is not just a special holy book, it is God's only word to mankind.
you don't know the meaning of God's inspiration. if the bible is faulty then, the inspiration of God is faulty hence God is faulty.

oga Matlab is not divinely inspired. everything man does can never be perfect hence the need for constant revision but God is not so. All the holy prophets including Jesus had trusted the scripture even when Jesus had a confrontation with the devil he relied on the unfailing trusted word of God.

the bible is perfect because it is God's inspiration simple, no long epistle.

if you can't follow a guide it means you don't trust it.
God is never a dictator, he is however a guide.

ignore God's principle and face the consequences simple.



Psalms 138:2
I will worship toward thy holy temple, and praise thy name for thy lovingkindness and for thy truth: for thou hast magnified thy word above all thy name.

Even the Jesus you are talking about understood how scriptures were to be read, rather you are the one reading scriptures like those Pharisees of old.
This same Jesus was told that Moses permitted divorce in the law ( the word of God), but he replied saying... Moses gave you this law because your hearts were hard but from the beginning it was not so, for he(God) made them male and female. ( Mark 10 vs 1-9).
You see, now you like those Pharisees of old would rather insist that those dictated infallible words of God from Moses must be obeyed to the latter because Pharisees lacked understanding. We have so many orthodox Christian Pharisees today such that both Paul and Jesus would be ashamed. The reason for this is thesame as the reason for your confusion on the meaning of the term "Word of God" as well as the term lnsipration( or God breathed).