LINUX! LINUX!! LINUX!!! Funny enough, really, haven't worked on a Linux system before . But hey! is it such a bad thing or rather sort of unaccepted for an ISP's server to run on windows?

Dominobaby,

Hi, don't get us wrong.  Windows is not a bad OS, neither is Linux the best.  But what we are concerned about is "what can this OS give back to you?"

If you will agree with me, you can't use windows OS for 3 months without doing a reinstall, whereas Linux has been proven to run for more than a year without reboot or any degrade in performance.

Again Linux doesn't make use of any antivirus, yet viruses can't attack it.  Imagine!  In windows any new release requires you to purchase new systems and new hardware.   For example, for best performance of Windows XP: Pentium 4, 512mb RAM, etc.

But new releases of Linux still allows you to mk use of your old box, I mean system without any hardware upgraded.  Also Linux is free, though you can sell it but the source code must be with it.  The source code is the program script used to write the program, so you can also design your own program.  Isn't this great?  Unlike Microsoft which has been monopolizing Windows.

Mainly Linux is being developed by hackers, so imagine this kind of people who knows every detail abut a computer to write an operating system?  It's goin to be a great one!  That's what Linux is.

Linux is not mainly command line as most people presume n ve gotten scared away by.  Linux too has a beautiful graphical user interface, where you can play games like Doom and lots more, do your animation using Maya, word processing like Microsoft Office on XP, open PDF, desigh webpages, run Java, C++, FORTRAN, play your DVD, VCD,  movies and MP3, burn your CD using k3b which is like nero, and lots more.

Since I've sticked to linux I've never experience any problem with my system unlke before.  Though I still have Windows XP because of my Sony Ericsson p900 which I use to load songs and videos to my phone,  but any other things my Mandrake Linux 10 handles it.  This means you can have windows and Linux on the same hard disk and dual boot.

Coming down to the issue of servers, most server apps on windows are linux origin. mysql, apache, firewall all started from linux, windows just  copied this, imagine!

One great thing I love about Linux is that it makes me learn.  So I use the command line mainly which is faster and straigh forward.  If you need any documentation, tutorial and installation CD on any distro of Linux (Fedora Core 4, Mandrake, Slax, Knoppix, Slynux), let me know, okay?  I will love to see you use Linux.

Bye.

Niggy my guy, BABA of Linux how far?

Don't forget our runs for today o!
Let's meet at the usual place ok.... 8pm
BTW, pls tell Funmi to get in touch, her number's been unavailable...

and plzzz don't come with ur laptop or P900 or else I'll seize them both.
No just kill urself with Linux o!

@mamba, peew! u nearly flattered me. well guys, mamba is a phone genius if u don't know. i mean it! Any thing phone-wise, i respect...he is knowledgeable on all brands. He lectured me on the functionality of p900 n i couldn't help buying it. he even resurrected my p900 when i crashed it. up mamba!
mamba, i'm waiting for the day u gonna have ur website n start writing reviews on all brands of phone. Like someone said, mamba's first child will be named NOKIA, second named SONYERICSSON , third named SIEMENS ........
caught ya later at the usual place pal.

Niggy:

@jogego, I chk out the kanotix , hmmmm not much with the interface, just like knoppix. don't think I like the fish logo too.

Well Niggy, Kanotix is based on Knoppix but trust me, I have used both as hard disk installs and I prefer Kanotix. And Kanotix's support forum is much more active than Knoppix's. Kano the builder of the distro is an active member of the forum. He has given me solutions on several occasions. And what better than to be able to ask the developer for solutions?

As per the interface, its KDE which is very VERY customisable with loads of eye candy. If you looked at my system now, you'd ardly see any reference to kanotix, the desktop, splash screen, icons are all changed. Checo out www.kde-look.org for loads of eye candy. I think Fedora runs Gnome ? I dont like gnome much. I actually love xfce too which I normally just get thru synaptic or apt-get( the beauty and simplicity of package management in debian.)

Anyhow, I run kanotix on my main lappy(IBM tp) and pro mepis on my other laptop(Dell) and for now, Kanotix has gotten rid of my distro hopping.


BTW, suse is i think rpm based. I never took to it. Took over two hours to install and then didnt recognise my wiireless PCMIA or give me screen resolution of 1024 X 768 only 800 X 600. Too much hype as far as am concerened.

@jogego, fedora has kde 3.4 too.
i just finished downloadin mandriva 2005 limited editon(mandrake 10.2) 3cds.
guess i'm still gonna stick to my mandrake products.

@jogego
like to ask this question" ve u tried tri-booting...windows, n other two linux OS?"
i tried this with windows xp, mandrake n mepis linux bt only one linux n windows xp wz recorgnized by my boot loader dependin on which linux i install last.
any help?

Niggy:

@jogego
like to ask this question" ve you tried tri-booting...windows, n other two linux OS?"
I tried this with windows xp, mandrake n mepis linux bt only one linux n windows xp wz recorgnized by my boot loader dependin on which linux I install last.
any help?

No I havent but I know its possible. As am sure you know, you need to install windows first of all, and tehn linux. And if you want to share files between them, windows has to be in FAT file system. Now to chain loading, did you tell mepis to install GRUB in the MBR(master boot record)? If so, it should work. If it doesnt, visit www.mepislovers.org and do a search in the forum, I know its been treated several times there. ON the other hand, I would check and get back to you. But dont panic, your installations should be there, just a matter of editing your grub list and pointing out where each partition is.

@jogego,thx man. i tried the editin bt couldn't get any thing out of it. hope u'll get a solution for me.
actually i need a linux dt has the feel of redhat or mandrake, n i think i just got one which is pclinuxOS. i'm currenly downloadin dat. it has all the lastest stable update kde3.41( kde3.4.0 is not stable).

Niggy thanks for throwing more light on Linux. Really would love to work on it.

Come to think of it, I did download PC Linux some time back. I never tried it out, though I burnt the CD. I'll hunt for it and give it a swirl.

@jogego,ve u heard dt fedora core 5 is coming out soon. i tried the pclinuxos on my via c3 800mhz board bt it freezes
after loggin into the desktop. i tried it also on my friend's p4 2.6Ghz n it works perfectly fine. i'm still trying to figure out the cause of this. my ram is 256+128mb so it couldn't have been a ram problem.
there is also Amarok live cd which is based on pclinuxos, yet to try dt one out bt ve finished the download.

@ Niggy, were you able to sort out the triple booting stuff? I saw a post on it on www.mepislovers.org but I tried to paste the link but it wasnt working.

To be honest, if a distro does not have a live CD i dont bother. Am not going to install a distro only to find out it does not support my sound or most importantly my wireless card. Most of the distros I have used all have ndiswrapper which I use to 'wrap' the windows driver of my wireless card and get it to work in linux.

If a distro does not fit on a CD, I dont try it. And since I installed Kanotix, I seem to have been cured of my distro hopping. You need to check out these links:

www.osnews.com(news on pretty much any OS in existence)
www.tuxmagazine.com ( you can susbcribe to this, its a pretty good magazine in pdf format and its free)
www.distrowatch.com ( more links at the links section if you scroll down while on the front page)

@jogego, not yet. i'm currently doin a review on windows new release" longhorn". i got the cd bt after installation, it was darmed slow n has bugs. i've been goin to site n forum to get the lastest news n peoples view. my man, linux is the best!
longhorn is suffering from bugs n instability n even microsoft has to replace the team leader for the development, imagine! they hope to get a stable longhorn by 2006.(au many mths from now).
i ll advice dm to throw it open as an open soucre as linux n let the gurus of linux solve their problem(laugh).

Niggy:

@jogego,thx man. i tried the editin bt couldn't get any thing out of it. hope you'll get a solution for me.
actually i need a linux dt has the feel of redhat or mandrake, n i think i just got one which is pclinuxOS. i'm currenly downloadin that. it has all the lastest stable update kde3.41( kde3.4.0 is not stable).

Contrary to what you say, I am running Kde 3.4.0 on Kernel 2.6.11 and I am yet to discover any bugs. It runs as smoothly as ever. And really fast,I must add

jogedo, fedora core 4 is kde 3.4.0. when i installed it i noticed the crashes at logout n some other ones. guess u are lucky running ur kanotix without the kde crash. i also confirmed this from a site.
about the pclinux os i think it's hardware independent. it runs a slow on my p3 800mhz so for now i'm sticking to my mandrake 10.bt pclinuxos is pretty kool.

Since you live on the cutting edge, you might want to give symphony OS a twirl.

http://www.symphonyos.com/

Open source (not necessarily Linux) is the future. Man go to places like hotscripts.com and see how fast new releases and advances come out for open source software and scripts.

I made the switch to open source almost a year ago, and I have no reason to want to go back to Microsoft and all the greedy bastards!

Linux vs Windows (Linux)
OpenOffice.org vs Microsoft Office (OpenOffice.org)
Norton/McAfee vs Zone Alarm/Anti-Vir (Zone Alarm/Anti-Vir)
Adobe Acrobat vs FOXit PDF (FOXit PDF)
Firefox vs Iinternet Explorer (Firefox)
Trillian vs MSN Messenger (Trillian)
PHP vs ASP/CFM (PHP)
MySQL vs MDB (MySQL)

It is only in the areas of graphics (Photoshop still beats GIMP anyday), web design (note that web design and web development are different, and I accept that Dreamweaver is still light years ahead of VNU), then other areas such as Visio, Corel and games that the open source community is yet to catch up. But it is just a matter of time IMO...

with a well configured yum repository u don't have to worry about dependency problem of fedora core/redhat . it automatically search the internet for all the depencencies + includin the software itself eg

[root@localhost niggy]# yum install totem
Setting up Install Process
Setting up repositories
core 100% |=========================| 951 B 00:00
dries 100% |=========================| 951 B 00:00
dag 100% |=========================| 1.1 kB 00:00
newrpms.sunsite.dk 100% |=========================| 951 B 00:00
updates 100% |=========================| 951 B 00:00
freshrpms 100% |=========================| 951 B 00:00
Reading repository metadata in from local files
Parsing package install arguments
Resolving Dependencies
--> Populating transaction set with selected packages. Please wait.
---> Package totem.i386 0:1.0.4-1 set to be updated
--> Running transaction check

Dependencies Resolved

=============================================================================
Package Arch Version Repository Size
=============================================================================
Updating:
totem i386 1.0.4-1 updates 1.0 M

Transaction Summary
=============================================================================
Install 0 Package(s)
Update 1 Package(s)
Remove 0 Package(s)
Total download size: 1.0 M
Is this ok [y/N]: y
Downloading Packages:
(1/1): totem-1.0.4-1.i386 100% |=========================| 1.0 MB 02:35
Running Transaction Test
Finished Transaction Test
Transaction Test Succeeded
Running Transaction
Updating : totem ######################### [1/2]
Cleanup : totem ######################### [2/2]

@jogego, i installed ubuntu yesterday, with dat i was having windowsxp , fedora core 4 n the ubuntu 5.04 on my hda. each time i tried to boot into my fedoracore i get a kernel panic error message. i had to sit down to figure out what was causing this after enough studing i reallized dat my fedora core and ubuntu linux were marked /(root).
so my fedora kernel is getting confused at boot time. i resolved this by removing the ubuntu partition. now jogego, must this be so. i've dual-booted many linux distro (slax, klax,berrylinux,mepis,amarok live,mandriva, pclinuxos, knoppix) along with my fedora core, so why the error with ubuntu? any idea?

TBH, I have no idea. I generally, just do a fresh install any time I am trying out a new distro. Did you have a separate partition setup for Ubuntu? I did try ububtu out but I wasnt too keen on it. First off, though I love gnome, it doesnt give me as much options for controlling my system as KDE so I dont think Ubuntu has ever spent more than a few minutes on my system.

If you install them on separate partitions, am sure there should be no problem whatsoever.

maybe i'll consider getting a hdb then. the gcc in fedora core 4 has bugs g++ 4.0 it doesn't compile. so i back dated to gcc 3.2 bt now i get this error, libXext can't be found whereas i had the latest x11 installed. any help

all over my head mate!!! try linuxquestions.org. I normally use it when I have problems. DO us use Fedora's user forums? You might get some help there as well. Am just a user, infact, if any distro is too technical, I throw it out the door. I dont have the patience to learn. Thats part of the reason why I normally say, if I can use Linux, then anybody can.

still interested in windows?? Then read this;

Microsoft is developing a patch for a newly discovered security flaw in versions of Windows XP which poses a particular threat to computers running XP Media Center edition.

The flaw is in Windows Remote Desktop Services (RDS) and could allow a hacker to cause a computer to crash repeatedly by sending specially crafted data packets.

"Our investigation has determined that this is limited to a denial of service attack, so an attacker could not use this vulnerability to take complete control of a system," said Microsoft in a security advisory.

The user who discovered the vulnerability, security researcher Tom Ferris (aka 'badpack3t'), claims that he alerted Microsoft to the problem in May. The company told him that a patch would be released on 9 August as part of the usual monthly cycle.

"I have been working with Microsoft to get a patch out for this," said Ferris. "Microsoft told me the patch was going to be released in August. We know it's only a DoS [denial of service attack], which is kind of boring, so this is why we decided to report it to Microsoft."


As for me ain't not interested in windows!

yet another story!!!!

Microsoft warns of software flaws in Windows
Submitted by srlinuxx on Wed, 07/13/2005 - 02:30. M$

Microsoft Corp. warned users on Tuesday of three new security flaws in its Windows and Word software. and issued patches to fix the flaws, which could allow attackers to take over a computer system.

All three of the "critical"-rated security patches could potentially allow an attacker to take control of a personal computer and use it to steal data or launch other attacks, said Stephen Toulouse, a manager at Microsoft's Security Response Center.

"The key thing is really that we want to make people understand the risk with these flaws and that they enable automatic updates," said Toulouse, referring to a feature in Windows that downloads and installs the software patches automatically.

Two of the flaws are related to imaging technology used by Windows, which could potentially allow an attacker to take control of a system simply by having the user view a digital image that contains software code that exploits the flaw, which could be installed on a computer without the user's knowledge.

"Simply by viewing one of these malicious images you can become infected with anything from adware and spyware to any other suspicious code," said Oliver Friedrichs, senior manager at Symantec Corp.'s Security Response Center.

Ain't anyone just tired of this monthly update patches from flawful windows!

for more news visit http://www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news/2139696/microsoft-latest-patches

@hot-angel, ur porn surfer friend might be interested in this news;

Linux livecd to the rescue?
Submitted by atang1 on Tue, 07/19/2005 - 02:24.
Porn site virus and spyware in hdd mbr requires fdisk and many hours of reinstall the operating system. While preloaded hdd has its appeal, it still takes hours to take apart the computer and screw in the hdd. Firewalls are not perfect. Linux livecd only takes a few minutes to load and operate all your embedded spftware right away. Nothing ever to corrupt.

enjoy!

Just came accross a wonderful program which I would call a yahoo messenger emulator for Linux. It enables voice chating, allows you to see and broadcast your webcam which are generally stuff I miss when using yahoo messenger for linux. It also has stealth settings

Read up on it at this page, and the download link is also there:

http://www.whiterosecreations.nl/linux/#S1.3.6.2.3.

The name of the software is Gyach.

hum what did Bill Gates do to all of you?

MICROSOFT WINDOWS STILL ROCKS !!! whatever you say to support open source wouldnt change the fact that windows is user friendly, the softwares running on them are readily available and people would continue to use it.

Yep. Windows still rock. And 90% of people still use it.

thx for the link jogego

u should have just asked on the thread, and i'll explain. I meant you have a thing for computer, as in you love computers right?

@kazey, who is converting who? you are missin lots out. i have windows on my system and i've once been a long time windows user. i like learning but during my time of being with windows i didn't make much progress. unlike now, with linux i'm moving at rocket speed. just wait till you see my own operating system,okay?
everyone knows windows has flaws which could cost you alot if you are using it for businesses. okay, i can remember the cyber cafes once were using internet explorer as there default browsers but now they 've all changed to firefox which is a linux open source programm. dt's wht we are saying windows is good bt could have been better if it'sopen source.
let me tell you this windows longhorn of a thing, microsoft has been on it since 2002, imagine! still have not come out with a stable version, whereas linux is moving from one development stage to another. do you know that after installing linux on your hard disk you can also create your own customized linux from it and it's all urs, just like that!
linux has one development now, you can be running the operating system from a CD while doing your hard disk installation, wow! linux is great.
au many foreign based tech films have y seen where windows is displaced, none! it's either mac or linux.
most govt enterprise uses linux, believe me. Go to windows forums, microsoft too admit there windows xp has flaws so what are you saying man. linux owns the future of os.
now i understand how to develop an operating system despite not being a programmer and i'm planning to build one. this is the work of open source.
open source means your programme script is make available for others to study and use while you still retain the copywrite. kool. bill gate couldn't hav develped windows if the script for dos wasn't made available to him by IBM!