Hermes019:
Christ !!!,you are killing me,so u expect me to provide a scientific instrument like a thermometer to measure love,love is a feeling,it is intangible if I may put it that way,but we know it exists because we can demonstrate it,this is all I have said,I never mentioned anything about quantifying it,so I ask you a simple question
Can Spirituality be demonstrated, if so ,how ?

First off,love can be proven,do u think otherwise ?
It seems you don't know my position when it comes to belief in God, I understand that a lot of things can not be proven and may well be beyond the understanding of humans but I am not blind to believe or accept any explanation as TRUTH,I may not know the depth of the Pacific ocean,but I am certain it is not 50000000000000000000000000 metres,I may not know how the unuverse was formed but I know that the account giving in the bible and other religions are false,if God is only described as "the entity that created the universe",nothing else attached, and the word " create" in this context simply meaning "influencing the formation of the universe" without any particular pattern or means being referenced, then I am agnostic,I would also consider myself agnostic if u were talking of a deistic,pantheistic or even panentheistic God,but when u describe God as an anthropomorphic being,whose features,nature and will is defined then I must see myself as an atheist in that regard,and I think that is why u view me as such,for the purpose of clarity I would always use the word YHWH so I am not misunderstood, u can use God or whatever u like,I know u are still referring to YHWH



You said you can not prove your God to me and I responded by telling you in the same way "I can't prove my atheism to you"


I remember mentioning this in a previous thread,all religions do not agree on what is right or wrong,of course there are certain actions perceived to be right or wrong common to all religions,but there must be at least one act that is right only in a particular religion but wrong in others vice versa,you can not be a perfect Christian and still satisfy the criteria for Anubis' moral scale




Really ?
Tell me more @ the bolded

-In my Father's house there are many mansion...
-Some Christians will enter Paradise as with the skin of their teeth (... without any reward)
-some Christians works would burn at judgement (so we are implored to build on the original foundation of Christ with things of value.

That is why heaven isn't a blanket Bliss for everyone is repaid back according to how they have performed in
1. Loving God and Fellow Man
2. Using their Gifts and Talents to edify believers
3. Preaching and winning Souls for Christ

I'm not sure what else there is to say here. If we die and find ourselves face to face with Anubis, then we were completely wrong.

But that is not the point, is it? The real question is this: is it equally possible to see Anubis as it is to see Jesus?

That is my question to you, TheArranger. What do you think? Are they equally possible? If you think they are, why do you? If one is more, why do you think it is?

Good Day Believer's,

I had a question , about God, and I made the following assumptions about God to ask it;

God can do Anything
God Knows Everything
God loves Everyone Equally
When Sinners die , they go to hell


And someone , who claims to be born again made the following statements in his attempt to answer my question;

God Cannot do Anything
God Does Not know Everything
The soul of dead sinners are destroyed, they do not go to hell.



Most importantly , Not only did he claim God does not love Everyone , he also claimed that God loving everyone is a very stupid idea.



Is that truly what most Believer's believe in ? I am honestly shocked by his views.. especially on that about God's love.



Here is the link to the question I asked,

https://www.nairaland.com/5007574/argument-god-does-not-exist#75489803


Please , try and help me understand how God Exists , and who he is. Thank you

Ihedinobi3:
I'm not sure what else there is to say here. If we die and find ourselves face to face with Anubis, then we were completely wrong.

But that is not the point, is it? The real question is this: is it equally possible to see Anubis as it is to see Jesus?

That is my question to you, TheArranger. What do you think? Are they equally possible? If you think they are, why do you? If one is more, why do you think it is?

I don't think either is possible. Now what?

TheArranger:

I don't think either is possible. Now what?

Well then, Christians don't think Anubis is possible either. That is why there is no question whether we will see Anubis when we die. We know we won't.

Ihedinobi3:

Well then, Christians don't think Anubis is possible either. That is why there is no question whether we will see Anubis when we die. We know we won't.

Why don't you think Anubis is possible?

TheArranger:

Why don't you think Anubis is possible?

Why don't you think both are possible?

Ihedinobi3:

Why don't you think both are possible?

Cause I've seen no objective evidence to suggest either are real?

TheArranger:

Cause I've seen no objective evidence to suggest either are real?

Well, there you are. We see no objective evidence to suggest that Anubis is real either.

Ihedinobi3:

Well, there you are. We see no objective evidence to suggest that Anubis is real either.

But you have evidence that Jesus is real as described by the Bible. Sure thing, bruv

TheArranger:

But you have evidence that Jesus is real as described by the Bible. Sure thing, bruv

Exactly, thank you.

Ihedinobi3:

Exactly, thank you.

Mind if i ask for this evidence? I'm interested in it

TheArranger:

Mind if i ask for this evidence? I'm interested in it

You just said what it is. What was I answering before? The Bible testifies that Jesus Christ a Man from Nazareth in Israel was really God Who came in a human body to die for human sins so that we won't need to face God's Condemnation when we die.

What other evidence do you want? You want Him diced and sliced up in a lab before you believe it?

Ihedinobi3:

You just said what it is. What was I answering before? The Bible testifies that Jesus Christ a Man from Nazareth in Israel was really God Who came in a human body to die for human sins so that we won't need to face God's Condemnation when we die.

What other evidence do you want? You want Him diced and sliced up in a lab before you believe it?

The Bible? LoL. Let's not even go there, mate.

TheArranger:

The Bible? LoL. Let's not even go there, mate.

You asked.

Ihedinobi3:

You asked.

The Bible is too flawed to consider as evidence. Try again.

TheArranger:

The Bible is too flawed to consider as evidence. Try again.

Sure, whatever you say.

Ihedinobi3:

You just said what it is. What was I answering before? The Bible testifies that Jesus Christ a Man from Nazareth in Israel was really God Who came in a human body to die for human sins so that we won't need to face God's Condemnation when we die.

What other evidence do you want? You want Him diced and sliced up in a lab before you believe it?

wait, he died to save me from the sin he created me with ?? but he's still gonna burn my ass_ if I play my genital.

Ihedinobi3:

You just said what it is. What was I answering before? The Bible testifies that Jesus Christ a Man from Nazareth in Israel was really God Who came in a human body to die for human sins so that we won't need to face God's Condemnation when we die.

What other evidence do you want? You want Him diced and sliced up in a lab before you believe it?

Just like Anubis and ancient Egyptian religion, in due time, Jesus and Christianity will be widely accepted as myths and folklore.
Marvel may even add his character to the 'avengers' along side with Thor and co.

Horiolah:


wait, he died to save me from the sin he created me with ?? but he's still gonna burn my ass_ if I play my genital.

You should consider a career in creative writing. You'll do well with fiction. Or I think you would if you could figure out the use of capital letters and punctuation.

DeSepiero:


Just like Anubis and ancient Egyptian religion, in due time, Jesus and Christianity will be widely accepted as myths and folklore.
Marvel may even add his character to the 'avengers' along side with Thor and co.

Okay. I hear you. Atheists obviously have a thing for made-up stories like the one you're telling here too.

Ihedinobi3:

You should consider a career in creative writing. You'll do well with fiction. Or I think you would if you could figure out the use of capital letters and punctuation.

ouch..

roses are red

ihedinobi issa grammar nazi

I can't swear_ without dat sign in front of it

english aren't my pops Languige








Jesus ain't real.

Horiolah:



ouch..

roses are red

ihedinobi issa grammar nazi

I can't swear_ without dat sign in front of it

english aren't my pops Languige








Jesus ain't real.

Sure. Okay.

Ihedinobi3:

Okay. I hear you. Atheists obviously have a thing for made-up stories like the one you're telling here too.

...says the theist who believes in talking snakes and donkeys.

DeSepiero:

...says the theist who believes in talking snakes and donkeys.

he's gonna cry abt evolution and big bang now.
wait for it.

DeSepiero:


...says the theist who believes in talking snakes and donkeys.

Really you guys should try to get the story straight!

Christians believe in Jesus Christ. We believe that one snake spoke. We believe that one donkey spoke. But we believe in Jesus Christ.

But making up stories is something you lot can't help. You need to fill the void you create by rejecting the Truth so you make believe all sorts of things to try to prevent your insanity from consuming you completely.

shit_ he didn't.

Ihedinobi3:

Really you guys should try to get the story straight!

Christians believe in Jesus Christ. We believe that one snake spoke. We believe that one donkey spoke. But we believe in Jesus Christ.

But making up stories is something you lot can't help. You need to fill the void you create by rejecting the Truth so you make believe all sorts of things to try to prevent your insanity from consuming you completely.

Yes. You, NOT atheists, believe in Jesus Christ, along with a compendium of other ridiculous stories found in your book (bible).
While you're so attached to fiction (e.g talking snake / donkey), atheists are concerned with reality.

DeSepiero:


Yes. You, NOT atheists, believe in Jesus Christ, along with a compendium of other ridiculous stories found in your book (bible).
While you're so attached to fiction (e.g talking snake / donkey), atheists are concerned with reality.

Sure. If you say so.

Horiolah:
shit_ he didn't.

LoL

Shirk is the greatest sin in Islam, if you're a Christian then you're going to hell cuz you ascribed a son to Allah while on earth.

You can't make heaven without Jesus in Christianity, cuz he said no one is entering his pops house without him.

how the fuck_ am I suppose to know d right without proves??

TheArranger:

Mind if i ask for this evidence? I'm interested in it

And the so called Christians will be arguing with you that what they see with their Jesusglasses, you too should see it with your blind eyes. And when you can't see it, they will claim you are the fool!

Arranger, stop blaming your unseeability on the thing you don't see when it is your eyes that you should get Jesusglasses for so you can see! If you are interested.

As to you Christians, you are the fools! Fools for telling blind people to see what only the unblind Jesusglasses wearing people alone can see! Jesus filled people would direct them to the optician!