frosbel2:



Sorry to butt in, but if a young one derides you ; are you not as a mature person supposed to show a good example in terms of decorum and decency ?

Furthermore, I have observed that you rain endless curses on people in this forum who disagree with you,, you have wished many death including me, you are rude and disrespectful ; and yet you expect people to respect you

I personally do not support the insulting of anyone talk less of elders, but respect is reciprocal.

Get a life and get rid of white Jesus in your life, he is making things worse for you.

XxSabrinaxX:

BOOOOOORRRRRIIIINNNGGG!!!!
You worship God but you have the tongue of a viper . LMAO!!! You are a fantastic granny
I don't insult people until they start begging for it. And you've been begging for it since you came into this thread with your stupid arrogance insulting everybody. I'm not like frosbel2 or jesusjnr o. I have no qualms. I'm a viper too. If you want to sling mud with me, i'm game
Please retire from this thread now before its too late. I won't be responsible for what happens next

Edit: You had to quote me twice, dumb bitch .

Anas09:

You have not said amen to the prayer. Say amen.

Martinez19:
ElidaxZiel appeared to be a throll but on checking his topics, I just have to wonder if he is a wilfully dishonest christian for selfish reasons or a very stvpid christian.

XxSabrinaxX:

And why should I believe a subjective evidence? How does this justify anything?

XxSabrinaxX:

Oya come and force me now . Are you my mother? Smh. This woman, have some self respect. I don't know why you want to start fighting with children. Please, don't mention me again. I haven't even started insulting you if I'm being honest.

luvmijeje:


You are not expected to believe or not to believe. That's is one of my problem with religion. Why force or insult people who don't believe in God. I got to experience God late in life despite being born into a Christian home.

And I didn't get to experience God the way it was written in the Bible. It was nothing like it was written in the Bible.

That's why I said religion limits God. God's bigger than religion. Anything can make you feel there's more to this life.

Anas09:

Pls point me to where i insulted you before you called me old hag.

Good. I do desire we remain strangers then. I can do without your unnecessary lip

Anas09:

You are the one with the unnecessary lip. Have you met you?

Do the rest of us a favour and take a dive further down the lake of fire. Don't quote me again.

Anas09:
You felt i'd be upset right? Lolz. I live in PH where going out each day and returning back home is a miracle. Do you know how many people lost their lives last year to ritual killers, stray bullets of warring cult factions and kidnappers?

Anas09:
Do you know how many times i have come close to dying just by living in this city? Yet, you expect me to be ashamed of the Life that God has given me and preserved.

Anas09:
In Life, what you want, you'd appreciate, and that's you'd attract.

You said you are a Viper, that's very good for you, but i hope you know what happens to vipers? When they are seen, they are never let go until they're killed.

And since you hate long life, may death hunt down like a Viper.

I say God forbid for you. But, ooops, there's no God.

JeromeBlack:



Butterflylion?

XxSabrinaxX:
Can i just pause to say how I find this thread very amusing and entertaining with all the salt, drama and butthurt from multiple users?
Ok let's continue



This was my response when you said you never knew I existed until now:

Your reply?

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I don't know why you're telling me this to be honest. What does you insulting people up and down this thread have to do with this?


This is completely your own business. I called out a dishonest christian to expose his deceit and fraudulent tactics to other atheists in these forums. I only tagged you and the rest because I've seen you argue in other threads in favor of God. I didn't ask you for evidence. I simply wanted you to look at this guy's dishonest argument tactics and see why we atheists have problems with christians here. Since then all you've done is attack me and try and disorganize the thread. Give me one good reason I shouldn't address your madness.


If i didn't know better, I'd say you were a muslim."Agree with me or perish". How wonderfully Islamic of you.

You claim you're not pained but you keep replying to my comments to heap curses on me. Way to be a hypocrite, Anas .

Anas09:

So you consider longevity an insult? Okay then. May Life reject you so no one ever call you old.

May death pay you an early visit. Now kick rocks.

luvmijeje:


You are not expected to believe or not to believe. That's is one of my problem with religion. Why force or insult people who don't believe in God. I got to experience God late in life despite being born into a Christian home.

And I didn't get to experience God the way it was written in the Bible. It was nothing like it was written in the Bible.

That's why I said religion limits God. God's bigger than religion. Anything can make you feel there's more to this life.

Martinez19:
Can you explain this experience?

luvmijeje:


I've been waiting for someone to ask. You know I love sharing my life experience.

All my life, I've been waiting for an angel to appear to me or someone to come up to me to deliver a message to me from God. Nothing came up. I've no special gifts to make me think I'm special. I felt purposeless and specialless.

Then an event happened that change the thinking of who I am. I came home beaten and tired of life from work. I just felt useless. Then I started crying. Then my mind told me to resign from work. Then I started typing my resignation letter via my mail. When I was through, for the first time in life, I felt at peace. Looking back, it was the moment I experienced God and at that moment I didn't know.

Experiencing God is turning point in one's life when you begin a journey whereby you discover a part of you that you are unaware of.

Martinez19:
That feeling of peace after a rough day is not god, I have felt it before. Anyways, what makes you think that it is god?

Martinez19:
Yeah , such incorrigible abuse of logic and reasoning reminded me of butterflylion aka felixomor.

felixomor:

It seems you are the biggest nightmare victim of butterflylion lolz

Vic2Ree:

Ladies and gentleman, we have an badass over here .
Seriously, Anas09, spare everyone your foolishness. Apparently no one likes you.

MhizAngel99:
This ElidaxZiel guy has been thoroughly destroyed lmao. Well done Sabrina. I'll be sure to watch out for this idiot in the future

Martinez19:
Lol. Cursing an atheist is like getting a lion cub to challenge a full grown male lion.

Martinez19:
Lol. Cursing an atheist is like getting a lion cub to challenge a full grown male lion.

Anas09:

Why aren't they saying amen nah? Tell them to say amen to the prayer.

Martinez19:
They don't believe in prayer and they cannot be forced to say "amen."

Anas09:

So you consider longevity an insult? Okay then. May Life reject you so no one ever call you old.

May death pay you an early visit. Now kick rocks.

1Sharon:


Cursing again because they brought up ur age?

Anas the Anas when will you change?

Martinez19:
Until you can prove the existence of god, then we can get talking.

NPComplete:


Anas09 is deeply frustrated. You guys have to understand her.

It is hard being where she is in life right now. Shiloh is not doing doing it for her anymore. The last one was probably her tenth year there and she is not getting what she wanted. No husband is coming. Even all her initial good Christian act here has not paid off. None of her fellow Christian males thought it was good enough for them. I don't blame them though. There is always a miasma of toxicity that so surrounds her even when she tries to pretend to be good. Most of them will choose an atheist lady here before they will deign to give her a once over. Life is generally frustrating for her. So she comes online every time to remind herself she has one nonexistent mansion somewhere. Surely there's an afterlife where things are better. That's what she tells herself.

So anytime she sees any religion or argument that jeopardizes her free mansion, she loses it. She starts cursing. She is well aware that the best things in life have eluded her and will keep doing so owing to her attitude. So she curses and curses and hopes others will fall to her station so she can have company. Misery loves company.

Guys try to understand her. Pity her. All her lashing out is just a cry for help.

XxSabrinaxX:
Lol. I know I said i'm not creating anymore topics on NL . But some christians need to learn some lessons in honesty even if they can't learn it from their so called bible .

I created a thread some days back talking about the burden of proof. I'm just going to post what I wrote in my post here:

"A lot of christians love to insist that atheists have the burden of proof. I personally find this ridiculous.

I think some of it comes from a misunderstanding of atheism. Contrary to what many religious people seem to believe, atheism is NOT an expression of certainty that no gods exist. It is a lack of belief that any gods exist, almost always based on the stance that the evidence put forth for the existence of any god is insufficient to justify belief. But most atheists admit that it is at least possible that there could be a god, and most atheists acknowledge that if compelling evidence for a god's existence was presented, they'd be open to changing their view.

Atheists therefore have a similar viewpoint about your god, whichever one it may be, to the belief you probably have about the gods of different faiths from your own. Shiva? Ahura Mazda? Zeus? Christians certainly don't feel that they have any burden to prove these gods do not actually exist. (In fact it would be impossible to do so even if they wanted to.) And atheists feel no burden to prove that your god, or anyone else's, does not exist. It is up to the person making a positive claim that something exists to provide the evidence. In the absence of compelling evidence, it is quite reasonable to withhold belief.

Any christian insisting on proof from an atheist is making a fool of himself and displaying a lack of belief in his own belief.
https://www.nairaland.com/4952457/christianity-burden-proof"

The above was from a thread I created a few days back discussing about how the burden of proof works. Atheists have nothing to prove and if you're still wondering if atheists have anything to prove, I sincerely advise watching this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Rg7zp7MDsA

Now I've met a couple of honest and intelligent christians on Nairaland who bring up convincing arguments when arguing with atheists and I respect them for that. Its one of the reasons I'm particularly baffled at the impulsive stupidity and ignorance of ElidaxZiel. Not only does he not understand how the burden of proof works, he completely blinds his eye to any possible answer given. If that's not untruthfulness, I don't know what is. Take a look at this thread:
https://www.nairaland.com/4964045/comparison-proof-god-jesus-mohammed
I've never seen any christian completely clown himself with his ignorance the way this man did in the above thread. And he just created a thread recently attempting to repeat this foolishness( https://www.nairaland.com/4972045/questions-atheist ), but i chose to ignore him because I'm not going to be stupid enough to fall for his trap and act against logic, which apparently, he normally does. The wise man usually says "once bitten twice shy".

Not to mention, this is another thread this dumbass created ironically titled "strong evidence for god", but then he went on to give the most generic, lazy, fraudulent and ultimately weakest evidence for the existence of a god:
https://www.nairaland.com/4958986/strong-evidence-god-exist

The most painful thing about all this is probably the fact that he was very confident in the answers he gave above, whereas I've seen better arguments from more enlightened christians.

ElidaxZiel, If you're reading this, I'm giving you a chance to prove you're not an autistic m0r0n and a bandwagoner and show everybody here your evidence for god. When I say evidence, this is what I mean (lifted from one of my previous threads):

"If you can present credible, objective, verifiable, i.e. empirical, evidence that your god – a supernatural entity associated with a religion – actually exists, I will immediately stop being atheist and will join your religion.
Here is why I chose credible, objective, verifiable evidence, and what I mean by each.

Credible - means reliable, believable. It comes from a reliable source. There is no obvious reason to doubt its authenticity. A child who is convinced there is a monster under the bed is not credible. A strong chain of circumstantial evidence usually is credible. Indeed recent studies suggest strong circumstantial evidence may be more credible than eyewitness testimony. If what is presented as "evidence" lacks credibility, one can ignore it. All quotations from the sacred text of any religion, for example, lack credibility as hearsay to those not a member of that religion.

Objective - means that the evidence can be observed in a scientific sense by anyone. This excludes, for example, subjective personal experience with a supernatural being. If someone tells me they have an intense, personal relationship with their god, I am perfectly willing to accept that they believe that. But since I have no way of experiencing their subjective, personal experience, I am unwilling to accept their testimony about it as objective evidence. It is subjective. If a god is active in the physical world, I, and anyone else who is interested, must be able to observe, in a scientific sense, physical evidence of this god's activity. If that can't be done, the "evidence" is not objective.

Verifiable - means at the simplest level that whatever is offered as evidence can also be found by anyone else using the same conditions. The reason that assertions about science must undergo peer review is this: If others cannot get the same result using exactly the same method, then the truth of the assertion is not verified.

Observed in a scientific sense means detected in any of the many ways in which scientists detect phenomena. One of the silliest conceits among the already silly practitioners of apologetics is to insist "observe" means that atheists (and possibly scientists, apologists have trouble making the distinction) will only believe that which they can see with their own eyes. Try telling that to the atheists among the scientists working at the Large Hadron Collider or the Laser Interferometer Gravitational Wave Observatory."

ElidaxZiel, come and show us your evidence for the god you worship. And I don't just mean any god. I mean Yahweh. Show me why he's the creator of the universe and not Allah. Please don't run away from this thread. I know you're fond of dodging, but today everybody's going to see your bare ass

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Edit: Please If you're a christian, don't answer me. I want the answers to come from ElidaxZiel himself.

Anas09:

I recounted it in this thread. Good morning.

https://www.nairaland.com/4971543/what-happens-after-die-reincarnation