Emusan:


Let me remind you your first reply to my post...

"Yes, going by the books, his human existence started in Mary's womb. Now whoever birth an human, is the Mother"

"His human existence started in Mary's womb"

Again, when did His Divine person start to exist

This is the question you haven't provided answer to because you know you'll short yourself in the foot.

Emusan:


The FLESH is the house for the divine person to be seen by ordinary human eyes and be able to do what ordinary human can do....isn't that manifestation in the FLESH

Peacefullove:
Human existence doesn't mean his life started in Mary's womb.

Hence the clause " human" added to existence.

Let me remind you that you added that the Divine nature was HIDDEN in that human nature that Mary GAVE BIRTH TO.

So what passed through Mary's vagina ? God in human flesh?

Tell me what passed through Mary's vagina, and we shall clearly see if she gave birth to God or not.

OLAADEGBU:


Let me show you how the fallacy of equivocation works with an example that is more clear.

1. Jesus is God.
2. God is a Trinity.
3. Jesus is the Trinity.

Do you see how lack of verification of terms results in confusion? Let me analyze this to show you where the problem lies.

1. Jesus is God.
1.1. In this sense, "God" means the divine essence.

2. God is a Trinity.
2.1. In this sense, "God" is describing the Trinity, one God in three distinct persons: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.

3. Jesus is the Trinity.
3.1. The confusion arises in the use of the term "God" which means one thing in premise one and something different in premise two, even though it is the same word. This demonstrates the fallacy of equivocation.

As you can see, without clarification errors can arise from such ambiguous, undefined conclusions. Such is the case with the Roman Catholic Church which has attributed to Mary far more than what the Scriptures have declared.

Emusan:


So if His Human existence doesn't mean His life started in Mary's womb, what happened to his DIVINE PERSON after Mary given birth to His HUMAN PERSON....

I've noticed that, you're using your JWs theory i.e Human doesn't have spirit person residing inside them to disprove this thread whereas, the Catholic who made the claim have believe in the theory of Human has spirit being residing in their flesh.

Can you see where the problem lies?



What happened to the divine person after HUMAN WAS ADDED



Now, does this mean I said divine nature was part of what Mary carried in her womb?

Mary birth the human nature NOT THE DIVINE PERSON, how many times will I repeat this to your empty skull?



The human nature passed....

You can see the reason why it's not good to jump into what you are confused about or don't have the indepth knowledge of.

I made a statement from my first post, which you jump in like a kangaroo without first understanding my point.

OLAADEGBU:


Important Concerns
The initial concern that is associated with calling Mary the "mother of God" is the implication of superiority, and also a special position that she would then possess. Please consider the following problems associated with the exultation of Mary.

1. Mary sits at the right hand of Christ: "...she is the supreme Minister of the distribution of graces. Jesus "sitteth on the right hand of the majesty on high" (Hebrews i. b.). Mary sitteth at the right hand of her Son..." (Pope Pius X, 1835-1914, Ad Diem Illum Laetissimum, 14).

Janosky:


Yet you joined the fray & commented on the posts of "mad men".
You no wan eat, but your teeth dey share am... OK nau.

PastorAIO:


Who was talking to you? I'm in no mood for talking to mad men.

PastorAIO:
As I was saying to the saner folks who are reading and laughing, se you see my predicament. Abeg no post anything here o, just read, laugh and move on. Or one craze man will try to drag you enter their idiocy.

PastorAIO:
There is nothing more entertaining than to see mad men discussing puerile nonsense.

OLAADEGBU:


Important Concerns
The initial concern that is associated with calling Mary the "mother of God" is the implication of superiority, and also a special position that she would then possess. Please consider the following problems associated with the exultation of Mary.

1. Mary sits at the right hand of Christ: "...she is the supreme Minister of the distribution of graces. Jesus "sitteth on the right hand of the majesty on high" (Hebrews i. b.). Mary sitteth at the right hand of her Son..." (Pope Pius X, 1835-1914, Ad Diem Illum Laetissimum, 14).

OLAADEGBU:


2. Mary is 2nd only to Jesus: "Mary has by grace been exalted above all angels and men to a place second only to her Son" (Vatican Council II, p. 421). "This mother...is waiting and preparing your home for you," (Handbook for Todays Catholic, p. 31).

OLAADEGBU:


3. Mary is the all holy one: "By asking Mary to pray for us, we acknowledge ourselves to be poor sinners and we address ourselves to the 'Mother of Mercy,' the All-Holy One," (CCC 2677).

OLAADEGBU:


4. Pray to Mary: "Mary is the perfect Orans (pray-er), a figure of the Church. When we pray to her, we are adhering with her to the plan of the Father," (CCC 2679).

https://carm.org/mary-mother-of-god-logical-fallacy

OLAADEGBU:


5. Marian prayer is epitome of the gospel: "The liturgical feasts dedicated to the Mother of God and Marian prayer, such as the rosary, are an epitome of the whole Gospel," (par. 971).

OLAADEGBU:


6. No Better way than to look to Mary: "After speaking of the Church, her origin, mission, and destiny, we can find no better way to conclude than by looking to Mary," (CCC 972).

OLAADEGBU:


7. Mary brings us the gifts of Eternal Life: Mary, "...by her manifold intercession continues to bring us the gifts of eternal salvation...(CCC par. 969)

OLAADEGBU:
There is a logical fallacy in the argument that Mary is the mother of God
by Matt Slick

The Roman Catholic Church often calls Mary the "mother of God." They say...

"Since Mary is Jesus' mother, it must be concluded that she is also the Mother of God: If Mary is the mother of Jesus, and if Jesus is God, then Mary is the Mother of God. There is no way out of this logical syllogism, the valid form of which has been recognized by classical logicians since before the time of Christ."¹

There is a sense in which the syllogism is true, but also another in which it is not. Let's take a look.

https://carm.org/mary-mother-of-god-logical-fallacy

imagrg:


The world itself is a mystery.
I am yet to know why people refer to Jesus as God when he stated clearly in the Bible that he is not.
Well, I am just wondering though.

Remember, Martin Luther made the Bible even accessible to the ordinary man today!

Beware of the Catholic philosophy! It is the problem we wrestle with in Christian belief today.

God is God. He is One and He does not share His personality with anyone.

AryEmber:
Really? Let's see, to the christians; Jesus is God, Mary is the mother of Jesus, Mary is the mother of God. I think the argument is valid, though not true.

tartar9:
Lol
I never knew xtians knew what logical fallacy is.
The real nonsense you should be looking at is the Trinity.An absolute gibberish which you guys also inherited from the Catholics.

Dnaz:
Mary is the Mother of God. QED
Jesus is Fully Man and Fully God
Even while on earth, he didn't stop being God

Ken4Christ:


He wasn't God on earth. This was why he had to be anointed for ministry. If he was God on earth, he will not need the anointing of the Holy Spirit.

In addition, he will not eat or sleep. God doesn't sleep. He became man for our sake to redeem us.

Concerning the issue of Mary being referred to as the mother of God, there is no where in the scripture where Jesus called Mary mother. He addressed her as woman. She was only a vessel that carried the baby Jesus. God could have used any other vessel in that lineage.

OLAADEGBU:


God bless you real good my brother.

Ken4Christ:


He wasn't God on earth. This was why he had to be anointed for ministry. If he was God on earth, he will not need the anointing of the Holy Spirit.

Ken4Christ:


In addition, he will not eat or sleep. God doesn't sleep. He became man for our sake to redeem us.

Ken4Christ:


Concerning the issue of Mary being referred to as the mother of God, there is no where in the scripture where Jesus called Mary mother. He addressed her as woman. She was only a vessel that carried the baby Jesus. God could have used any other vessel in that lineage.

Janosky:

Is Jesus Christ God on earth or just the son of himself?
Does God have a Father in heaven?
Matthew 27:46,is God crying to himself ?

Which scriptures did you read that GIBBERISH of Jesus Christ not eating or sleeping at all?

Jesus Christ is your God in heaven.
You said "He wasn't God on earth".
You mean your God in heaven never came to the earth?

Your Trinity mentors said " Jesus is fully God and fully man."
Do you agree with their claim?
Their claim of Mary as the mother of God is borne out of Trinity GIBBERISH.

Janosky:


Is Jesus Christ God on earth or just the son of himself?
Does God have a Father in heaven?
Matthew 27:46,is God crying to himself ?

Which scriptures did you read that GIBBERISH of Jesus Christ not eating or sleeping at all?

Jesus Christ is your God in heaven.
You said "He wasn't God on earth".
You mean your God in heaven never came to the earth?

Your Trinity mentors said " Jesus is fully God and fully man."
Do you agree with their claim?
Their claim of Mary as the mother of God is borne out of Trinity GIBBERISH.

OLAADEGBU:


The depiction below simply nails it.

For your mind...
Psalms 90:2 dey your own Bible?
Acts 2:33-36, did God resurrect himself?
Or you mean God resurrect another GOD?
Did God give himself this command: "Sit at my right hand?"

Ken4Christ:


It takes a spiritual man to understand spiritual truth. If you are not born again and filled with the Holy Spirit, there is nothing I am going to explain that will make sense to you.

Ken4Christ:

In summary, there is one God who is invisible and he dwells bodily in Christ. Jesus is the visible manifestation of the invisible God. If you want to see God, look at Jesus.

Therefore, according to your claim,"If you want to see God on earth, look at Jesus".
Mary gave birth to God on earth.
simple logic. .

Ken4Christ:


He reproduced himself in Christ and yet Jesus still call him God. They don't walk independently. Their thoughts and minds are networked together.

Ken4Christ:


The most important thing that matters is your salvation. Are you born again? Are you filled with the Holy Spirit?

believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God and you will have life" NOT Trinity GIBBERISH.

If your salvation matters to you better hold on to Revelation 3 12.
In the spiritual realm Jesus said himself is NOT our God

Janosky:

Matthew 27:46, what is the spiritual truth Jesus is teaching you ?
Does Matthew 27:46 the statement of Jesus Christ "God on earth crying to himself in heaven" make sense to you?

Therefore, according to your claim,"If you want to see God on earth, look at Jesus".
Mary gave birth to God on earth.
simple logic. .


Your Trinity says God na 3 persons.
Oga, God reproduced another person.
Why are you LYING that "God reproduced himself"?

Ken4 ,wetin happen to your Spiritual man brain?


Yes, my salvation matters when you are in complete agreement with John 20:17,31 "believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God and you will have life" NOT Trinity GIBBERISH.

If your salvation matters to you better hold on to Revelation 3 12.
In the spiritual realm Jesus said himself is NOT our God .