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KingEbukasBlog:
Yahweh, Christ are one . Even in the bible , pre-incarnate Christ was believed to have appeared to Adam , Moses etc .

But these deists don't interact with Yahweh, or do they?

KingEbukasBlog:
Some deists don't have personal relationship with God . They just acknowledge the existence of God that's all .

OK, you should know my standing.

And also, why u avoid my question, I think you can see by now that if indeed the deists(those that interact), don't interact with Yahweh, then one of you are in a very big big delusion.

Anas09:
4Kings i hope you remeber you are standing in for Hardmirror and not for yourself? because what am observing here is you talking about your personal experiences. You said i shd ask you the questions he refused to answer.

@bolded, I thought it(the questions) was to either proof or disprove whether one was a true believer or not.

Damogull:
Can we talk about it? Others have given it a shot and it worked out superbly. Take me for example. What did i do right that you didnt? Thats what a scientific mind would try to find out and not draw a conclusion. A scientific mind would want to know if they fulfilled all requirements.

Can we talk about it?

Sure, what do you need to know?

KingEbukasBlog:
One God bro , One God

So deists are not going to hell, and it's alright to reject Christ divinity.

Oh dear oh dear

So you abjured your Christian "beliefs" because a New Age Teaching

Are you high ?

This has NOTHING to do with my beliefs, it's just a about my Interest in learning about the Subconscious mind.
what's new age teachings??

Anyway I downloaded so a few e-books on the power of sub conscious mind .

Hmmm

Anas09:
So all these are lies?

I won't just call it "lies", cos I think that would be rude of me.

But I would say that, I didn't have what it takes to accept some beliefs, later on.

melodyogonna:
it's making sense now, thanks!!

You are welcome.

About the Web frameworks, I think it's Django because of its popularity, and you can always get many helpful packages for different functions on pypi, because of its fan base . Instagram uses Django.

But if you are just starting out, you can try flask, it's easy.

Damogull:
4kings i sense that you are so close to the truth but just seek to act as if you would diminish in intelligence if you decide to have a personal relationship with God. God will not come pleading with you...he already did that in Jesus..

You are the one to seek him out just as ebuka said. If you are as intelligent as you say you are then how would asking or seeking or knocking be such a hard thing to do? Its as simple as having a conversation with someone.

You can just talk to God as you imagine him in your heart and i guarantee you that if you are sincere enough he would respond to you in a way that would blow away deism from you.

I know you are not as intelligent as i am But i gave it a shot and have never looked back ever since.

I've given it a shot already(when I was a believer) , but it ended so sad for me.

melodyogonna:
Guys!! Without a full underdstanding (or no knowledge) of OOP in Python, can you still be able to build an app or game? Even if you understand OOP in python, how will it be of-use in game or app development?

With Tkinter and Pygame, you can build app without OOP.

OOP will be of use to make your code easier to read and understand, and quicker.

annnikky:
A ______ Surgeon was _______ to perform surgery on a
the lady as there was ______.

Can you complete the puzzle by filling up the blanks
by using one word in three different ways?





Cc: femi4, 4kings, kretoz, KingEbukasBlog

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KingEbukasBlog:
Ask and you shall receive

Seek and you shall find

Knock and it shall be opened unto you

For everyone who asks receives,

and the one who seeks finds,

and to the one who knocks it will be opened

Are you implying that the Christian God(Yahweh) is the same one the deists talk to?

Spiritual enlightenment through those dubious means can be very pernicious . Its dangerous . You won't realize the harm it has done to you till it destroys you . You are going to experience incredible things and you may struggle to accept the existence of God

Genesis 3:4-5
4 But the serpent said to the woman, “You will not surely die. 5 For God knows that when you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.”

I know.
I just select the ones that are reasonable to me, I don't accept stuff that I have not properly examined.
Have you yet made any research on the medicineless school I told you about, or do you know Gregg Braden or have you read more about the capabilities of the subconscious mind, those are the only stuff that light up my interest, and apparently they were also known in the old days(this is the only factor that makes it so weird and unnecessarily spiritual), anything apart from that, I no follow.

But I'm still waiting for Sir DeepSight to tell me more about his spiritual views, he hasn't replied yet.

Anas09:
So you admit the Word is a spirit? Do you Now believe in Spirits? But all these experences were just in your head(?)

Chisos,
Haven't you heard "the spirit of the word" being used before by Christians.
Pay attention during service, my lady.

Anas09:
Bottomline, it was all a lie. As in, the change of mindset and the serious believer you became was a charade?

You talk about Life's Purpose. Can you throw more light?

I said Life and Purpose, not Life's Purpose.
With this you should know what I mean. Like
Why am I here?
What am I created to do?
Do I have a predestined path, or do I make one myself with the guidance of the Holy Spirit?
And so on.....

A deeper understanding of God's love? Didn't you say it was all in your mind, and that its all a lie?

I was telling you how I felt like then.

You are confusing me. You mean you were made alive and born again by the spirit of the word which you said was all in your mind, which turned out a lie?

I don't get your confusion.
Please state it.

Can you share your speaking in tongues encounter? Your first time

it was in a BFC class (Believers foundation class), the guy(student chaplain) got so intense, started talking about faith and tongues, let's just say it was so overwhelming. At a point, he asked if we believe then we can get the gift of speaking In tongues by faith, for the building the up of our Spirit. Like I told you it was so overwhelming, when he got to me and touched me, I just spoke anything that came out of my mouth in faith that I was speaking a heavenly language.
He told us to always be in the spirit and create time for speaking more in tongues for spiritual build up, and as an obedient Christian, I followed, some evenings I would go to Chapel and just start speaking, and I also did so with a small word study or Christian group that I joined, and bla bla bla.....[/quote]You didn't answer my second question.

What led to your dead to live.for Christ?[/quote]Applying Reason and Emotions to the Bible and not Faith.

KingEbukasBlog:
Very weak reason .

Why would God interact with some men and not all, and for what purpose?
A strong reason would be appreciated.

Have you opened your third eye ?

I don't call it that, because it mainstream definition encompasses stuff I don't agree with.

I call it Understanding or Enlightenment.

Anas09:
Your mind is your spirit?

You mean the Holy Spirit talked to you through your mind? Can you elucidate pls and give an encounter you had.

Yes, I thought something else(the Holy Spirit) was talking to me, but it was all my mind.
An encounter, Hmmm, which one, okay, Speaking in Tongues.

Let's go like this, how did you die to become a christian?
What led to your dead?

What led me to be a serious believer was "Change of mindset" towards stuff like Life and Purpose and deeper understanding of God's Love, as a result of spiritual messages during my100level days at CU.

So basically I was made alive(born again) by the Spirit of the Word.

Anas09:
Oh sorry. I saw the the typo today. My autocorrect is crazy.

Ok. Now, through which medium did he interacted with you, when you were a believer?

My mind or Spirit.

MrPresident1:
You are irredeemably deluded I cannot help you

But he whom the son sets free, is free indeed

So there's hope for me.....

MrPresident1:
The first step to finding the knowledge of the One True God is to question everything you have ever been told about Him.

It starts with asking objective questions that drive at the very core of all you ever believed or were told. You may seem an atheist at this point because you would ask questions that would seem bizzare to religious folks. But it is your first steps in the journey of enlightenment and freedom, Nietsche said 'if you seek contentment, just believe. But if it is the truth you seek, then you must inquire...' and when you find the truth, the truth will set you free.

Anyone at this point in the evolution of knowledge who is trying to enforce religion, lack of inquiry, and 'contentment' on the people can be up to no good. Such a one is evil. Knowledge and inquiry will set you free, and the first step in that journey to complete liberation is objective disagreement with fables. You will be attacked as the black sheep, but your eyes will gradually open to the deception that has gone on for too long in the world.

THE FIRST STEP IN YOUR JOURNEY TO FREEDOM IS TO ASK!

Do you think this Journey leads to the same destination for all??

KingEbukasBlog:
What is wrong with interacting with the Creator? You make it seem like having a personal relationship to God is anathema to you .

Bros, MrPresident1 case is because of "interactions with God", so was the pastor that buried himself alive to proof God's Power, and Christians still waiting In year 2050 for Jesus to come.

You know I subscribe to Gnosticism, Chi, kundalini and so on but I still don't see them as interactions with God, come on, that's delusion.
An interaction with God is not possible.

delishpot:
Long time indeed my brother and a very prosperous 2017 to you.

Thanks, Same to you.

There may be no written doctrine in Atheism and there is none in the new testament either which expressly asks followers of Christ to go out and kill any one for what so ever reason. Even Christ denounced the actions of the old religion which was common in his days. Like I said, if a priest does what Jesus condemns, people do not see him as the evil one, they see the whole religion as the evil one, so why should people not also dish out judgement to atheists based on the warped actions of some of them too?
See? Its all good until the ball bounces on our court.

Well I agree.
But these generalizations are false.

naijadeyhia:
I never said "ALL" I said this is a case of "use your tongue to count your teeth"

I gave you instances of atheists here who are angry for no apparent reason at theists like we are the reason why they were born into the world and they lash out without restraint. Surely you know them but does that mean its all of them?

Some of them may still be transitive while others have arrived at that point or others have moved on from that point and just do not want to be bothered but how are their emotions controlled? How are they balanced?

If an atheist here on NL could wish death and extinction upon everyone i am surprised it does not bother you. If this was abroad and the law enforcement happen upon that thread they would be keeping a close eye on that Nairalander as he fits the profile of a mass murderer or is suicidal. Am i wrong?

OK, but is the profiling necessary, wouldn't it be respectful to use the names psychologists use??

Anas09:
Okay, 4kimgs am here. I just saw this. You didnt mention me so i didnt.see it.


Lets start with this.

Who is the Holy Spirit?

Sorry I didn't see this on time, you typed 4kimgs instead of 4kings.

Anyways the Holy Spirit is simply the third person in trinity and a spiritual guide to believers.

naijadeyhia:
Earlier i posted this

https://www.nairaland.com/3525678/craig-hicks-militant-atheist-killer#52041378

and this

https://www.nairaland.com/3525729/atheist-killed-united-states-president


I have been researching links and behavioral patterns found among atheists especially the new atheists and i have compiled a list of 99/100 atheists who were extremely popular and who all shared the same trait of depression, hatred, murderous tendencies, Absolute power and intolerence.

This is a case of "use your tongue to count your teeth"

If you honestly go through Nairaland the most bitter and venom filled people are atheists. Angry at everyone for everything , Blaming everyone else but never themselves and using anything to insult and ridicule including personal details like deaths in ones family etc.

This shows that the issue of empathy or understanding or concern is something which somehow has been degraded in them even though they may deny it but we are seeing it glaringly playing out.

Some of them which you may have come across here on NL have shown genocidal tendencies by wishing death and extinction upon humanity. These ones have no access to ways of achieving this yet but imagine if they did and if they continue with this rambling while in possession of the means of achieving their ideology.

This thread and subsequent ones i will be posting about murderous atheists should serve as a mirror for self examination to all atheists. A lot of them are youths here on NL and its either they joined it so as to seek support for their youthful rebellion or they are having emotional tantrums but that is how it starts. Eventually for some it would go beyond hatred for family and friends to hatred for everyone who does not agree with their worldview and such is the mind suitable for crazy thoughts of kill, eliminate, destroy to dwell in.

Atheism is like a Ship which says it has no need for its anchor so is now free in a turbulent ocean. It would be ripped in pieces and tossed about by every wave and current. Everyone needs control and atheism does not offer that. It offers destructive liberty not just to themselves but to every other person.

If an atheist can target a united states president then its a serious matter. He was not the only atheist who assassinated a united states president. As i reveal more on other posts i will keep tagging you.

I think this is subjective.
Where behavior, parenting and other normal social stuff are factors.
One could also research on Christian assassins, but that's no cause for generalization.

Take someone like Zuckerberg or President José Alberto, they don't look like one suffering from depression or hatred or trying to kill someone.

However, these are just my thoughts, after your posts, I need you to make detailed analysis of why all atheists are under the influence of what you mentioned.

naijadeyhia:
Do you seriously need an answer to this question?

Yes

KingEbukasBlog:
I think you should read more on deism bro .

That's the thing about me, I didn't read about deism, before I took the label, I just discovered that the label was in line with my personal beliefs, ( when I was reading about Aristotle, was when I first heard the word "Deism" )

If "interaction" however is a tenet of deism, then I think that label is not suitable for me.
Maybe everyone should from now just call me a freethinker.

KingEbukasBlog:
Deists can interact with God . And have a personal/transpersonal relationship with God .

Without religion , Enoch walked with God .

Its funny how a Christian is more cognizant of your beliefs than you

This is NOT my belief.
Interaction does not make any sense, that's not deistic.
I know you might try to bring examples of those that claim there are deist and subscribe to this "interaction", but that's another belief(theism) entirely.
Aristotle is a good example.

For God's sake how can a deist interact with God, and still holds his stance of "non interventionist".

KingEbukasBlog:
I'm not saying religion dictates moral laws , I'm saying that God is the supreme authority that decides what's good or bad . Since atheists deny this , they subscribe to subjective morality .

How does God dictate what's good or bad.
(does this include the deist God)

KingEbukasBlog:
How about asking the question

"How do the actions of this man affect other Christians ? "

So can you answer this ? What do you think ?

He can be referenced as a " bad example", while in discussion.

delishpot:
But actions of priests and pastors affects other Christians ba?
Just Google and see how athiests through history target religious men and Christians and even educational intellectuals for death.

Oga delishpot long time ,
But there's is no doctrine in atheism & that's not a cause for "hasty generalization". (on both sides however)

Naijadeyhia don start again.

How does the actions of this man affect other atheists?

ScienceWatch:
Just like you have fake pastors and fake watches etc. Science watch must detect the pretensions of science.

Hmmm

ScienceWatch:
My family has changed to "free range" and non GMO.
We are all feeling much much better.

OK ooo

May I ask the meaning of ScienceWatch