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KingEbukasBlog:
Well , I think there is one way to find out if you are an old soul . Hmm , its kind of an occult practice .

What is it?

KingEbukasBlog:
Are you a feral child ?

For real, this is the best you could come up with.

KingEbukasBlog:
People have cogent evidence about reincarnation . Some people have memories of their past lives . And the descriptions given correspond with the records about the individual . Its frightening but it makes sense .

But MrPresident1 , is it all souls that reincarnate ? Because there are new souls you know .

I've seen those YouTube videos, but I still don't buy it.

KingEbukasBlog:
Whatever you think about God and religion is your own business . . Man keeps talking about God because God has ingrained the curiosity to know about Him in man according to Romans 1:19-20 and that Nature serves as evidence for God .

Which kain talk be this one.
Curiosity ke, what about feral children?

MrPresident1 since you believe in Reincarnation, can you answer this questions, for the edification of readers?

- what age was the cycle of reincarnation started?
- Are Adam and Eve, still in the reincarnation cycle.
- Is Jesus there too?
- What about the Apostles and other Biblical figures?

-Are there still "new creation" or are we all reincarnated?

MrPresident1:
READ that place again

I was obviously making reference to a different translation.
READ


READ that place again


READ

Really, this is all you got. ("misinterpretation"

This is hell where all the haters of God are going
Isaiah 66:24
24 And they shall go forth, and look upon the carcases of the men that have transgressed against me: for their worm shall not die, neither shall their fire be quenched; and they shall be an abhorring unto all flesh.

OK, I love adventures.

damogul:
4everGod can answer his own questions but i will tell you this. Intelligent Design aka progressive creationism is not a theory. Those who see it as one do so myopically. I see it as truth.

There are always 2 sides to an opinion and mine is declared above.

Perhaps i would have a thread deal with the truth about intelligent design later then we can do a comparison alright? This is not a thread for that.

OK
I'll really love that thread.

BTW 4evergod you've not answered my question.
Is Progressive Creationism to be considered a "Valid Theory", why or why not?
Damogul you can help him out.

MrMontella:
what delusion are you talking about?
Delusion is when you stylishly input evolution as ''progressive creationism''
the Op is baseless...uninformed and with wrong understandings of various things..

Don't mind him.
I think he is aware of this particular delusion.

KingEbukasBlog:
We've argued on reincarnation before here : https://www.nairaland.com/3079282/believe-reincarnation-get-here-answer

But I'm open minded ...

I've even used reincarnation in my arguments sef

OK.
What made you consider reincarnation, from the biblical perspective.

And I've seen that thread already.

MrPresident1:
John 9:3
3 Jesus answered, Neither hath this man sinned, nor his parents: but that the works of God should be made manifest in him.

READ!

Jesus did not disprove reincarnation, he affirmed it. He said neither the man nor his parents sinned...it is so that the works of God should be made manifest in him. He had not sinned in past life, neither him nor his parents, it is to show God's perfect work.
READ and UNDERSTAND!

What sort of grammatical manipulation is this?

Hebrews 9:27
27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:

'Once to die' is not the same as to 'destined to die once' stop being sly . Henceforth you must quote the Bible and not just make references or I will be constrained to not answer you again.

I was obviously making reference to a different translation.
BTW, carefully consider the words "Appointed" and "Destined" in this context, before you make any silly point.

Again, understand one thing, I am answering you not on your merit, you are not brethren, you are not of the kingdom, I am answering you for the edification of brethren who are reading and following and watching patiently for the appearance of Jesus Christ our Lord. I am teaching them through my responses to you. You do not exist.

So consider me a vessel unto Enlightenment, specially "appointed" or "destined" by Yahweh

Ecclesiastes 3:16
And moreover I saw under the sun the place of judgment, that wickedness was there; and the place of righteousness, that iniquity was there.

Once to die and after this the judgment, is when you die you come back to pay for the sins of past life. Offence in this life, punishment in the next life...and continues oscillating just like that.

So if one has paid for his sins, what is hell for?

KingEbukasBlog:
Wetin dey sup brothers ?

Read MrPresident1 argument on reincarnation.

MrMontella:
aiit..
To me, i believe so long as something is existing...Time exists...
I really dont buy this eternal stuff
and the worst; a timeless ageless dimension nonsense...

Ya "timeless" is illogical.
But the concept of "eternal" involves "Infinite TIME"

MrPresident1:
Before Ebuka comes, answer my question

John 9:2
And his disciples asked him, saying, Master, who did sin, this man, or his parents, that he was born blind?

When did this man sin that he was born blind?

The next verse clearly reveals that it was for God's purpose to be made manifest and that he had not sin.
Besides Hebrews 9:27 said men are destined to die once.

MrPresident1:
My brother are you a learner?

Job 8:8-9
8 For enquire, I pray thee, of the former age, and prepare thyself to the search of their fathers:
9 (For we are but of yesterday, and know nothing, because our days upon earth are a shadow

John 9:2
And his disciples asked him, saying, Master, who did sin, this man, or his parents, that he was born blind?

So Bros, when did the man sin that he was born blind?

Let me see KingEbukasBlog opinion on this, before I comment.

MrPresident1:
Calling into the kingdom of God if they are either lineage or grafted Israelites (saved in a previous lifetime) as it is written, all Israel will be saved.

Calling into punishment if they have done terrible things in past life, calling into eternal punishment. Inside the bodies of those babies are ancient souls.

Under the sun is the place of judgment, for good deeds and bad deeds.

So you also believe in reincarnation?

Anas09:
Was it proven or not? It was proven that you were never who you said you were. If you were, you wont be pained, you are still so pained. Man get a life, and dont derail this thread.

Which kain wahala be this one.
So u have a deep conviction that hardmirror was lying how? , but a book saying that all living things were able to enter one ship was not abi?

KingEbukasBlog:
What wrong have I done ?

Shine your eyes

KingEbukasBlog:

Wonders shall never cease, with KingEbuka

damogul:
of course i have. Is there a problem?

KingEbukasBlog:
The spirits of animals are destroyed when they die - they die once the animal is dead . They are not to be compared with spirits of humans .

Ecclesiastes 3:21
Who knows the spirit of man that goes upward, and the spirit of the beast that goes downward to the earth?

What's the meaning of this??
Is Adolf Hitler's spirit going upward?

damogul:
I have observed this thread

SMH

ScienceWatch:
There are times when it pays to change the subject to make a point.

Athiests love science.
Science is their god.
Science made dangerous GMO foods.
Atheists eat the foods of their gods.

I'm not an atheist!!!

What is the deadly end results of science modifying the genetics of our natural seeds ?

My leaning isn't towards biochemistry and I have not read satisfactorily on this issue, to give an opinion.

MrPresident1:
Them too are predestined na , just as God predestined Jeremiah, Jesus Moses, Noah, Abraham etc, and all the people that he called, so also all the babies being born are predestined . Everyone with His calling in God.

Do you even believe this?
What possible calling would they have within 2 months?

Teempakguy:
it's not mine. it's a fairly common philosophical concept. Even last thursdayism includes nothing as the starting point from which the universe appears. apparently on last Thursday.

Abeg stop saying "Nothing"
Start using self-existent

MrMontella:
Thank You!
Finally you saw my point on ''Time''..

On that thread, I was concentrating only on this universe(from big bang).

Teempakguy:
when I began the discussion with deepsight, it was solely on the grounds that it was a philosophical discussion. I am surprised and deeply disappointed at his attitude.

take last thursdayism. it postulates that the world popped into existence last Thursday. it seems unbelievable. however, dismissing it in a philosophical argument because it "sounds absurd" is just laughable. He is currently doing that and you are too.

Last thursdayism is actually a valid argument, just like simulation.
However, your concept of Nothing was absurd.

Teempakguy:
0. yes, really.

1. I meant NOT nothing. a square circle, a dot, even an imaginary complex number is still something. Nothing is quite literally . . . Nothing.

2. time is not a necessary thing. it's just another dimension. one that has been shown to be quite malleable in the theories of relativity. if you are incapable of imagining a place without space nor time, that is not my fault.

3. @bolded which you asked me to explain: I assumed it was self-explanatory, but hey,

imagine a black piece of paper. say I come to you and claim this paper will immediately become white. what will you say? the laws of physics prevent this. in other words, if not for the laws, I can claim that anything will happen and it could. I can claim that a three horned unicorn will suddenly appear. for every argument you make that this will not happen, I can make a symmetrical, yet opposite argument that it will.

nothing is the ultimate fair dice. totally unpredictable because there are simply no laws or constraints.

the fact is, an Almighty God is perfectly capable of coming into existence from nothing. Why not? I'm not an atheist because I think it's impossible for that to happen.

Mr Teempakguy
I think Sir DeepSight has properly addressed your misconception of Nothing so I won't go any further.

And on object creating it self; I am glad I was not the only one that saw the absurdity.

Seun:
I think they're not perfectly accurate, but scientists are aware of the limitations of their accuracy, which is why they use many dating methods.

Thanks.
Just realized that.

But that in no way disproves evolution
Cc 4evergod

Teempakguy:
If you really want to go philosophical, let's do it.

Premise two is false. It is based on a hasty generalization of conservation laws. All conservation laws only apply in this specific universe. If there exists a multiverse, there definitely will be universes that do not have conservation laws.

Really!!

I think you misunderstand the concept of Nothing. Take outer space. It is not nothing. it contains a so called dark energy that keeps it from collapsing and in fact expands it. it obeys laws and updates itself at the speed of light. even though it seems to be nothing. Imagne a single dimension. a single dot. all of this is nothing.

is a square circle or imaginary complex numbers "nothing" ??

In nothing, there is no time orspace, there is no concept of anything. the human mind is quite incapable of imagining nothing because it cannot normally imagine anything with dimensions lesser than two or more than four.

How can there be no TIME before creating "Something with Time"?

Let me illustrate; 3 2 1 " Big bang". Is "prior time" being eliminated here?

Because One of your premises is faulty, your whole argument is questionable and an infinite regress immediately arises. in order to solve this, you Invented a concept of self-existent objects. When in fact, they are quite unnessesary. Any object can and will create itself if there are no laws to prevent it.

@bolded, please explain

Seun:
Trying to discredit evolution is just silly. Even the Catholic church, which rejects contraceptive use, accepts evolution. Stop disgracing yourself! This is not to say that I don't welcome questioning of evolution, but do you think smarter people haven't asked the same questions since 1859?

Abi ooo
But what do you think of radioactive dating methods, are they accurate?

Teempakguy:
Your logical fallacy is: Ridiculous comparism.

every soul in the world knows that liquid flow is variable. This is why fluid mechanics is one of the most difficult areas of physics and mathematics today because it is almost impossible to predict. The age of the earth on the other hand is based on methods that have been repeatedly proven to be constant. So don't come here to say another thing.

Can you please explain these methods?