Lalasticlala, Mynd44! You will not come and see Europe in coloured picture. Be knocking una black and white television there.

dakotchic:
Please o mamas,may I come in here. In ideal settings straight forward pregnancy care and delivery do not have to be taken by an Obstetrician, Infact in the UK and Canada, midwives play this role significantly. So it is not illegal or unauthorised for a family physician to take deliveries. Finally a family physician in the US is not a GP as per Nigerian standards where a GP has no postgraduate qualifications. He is a specialist with at least 3 years of postgraduate specialisation.

And CSECTION? That's the one I am concerned about o!

ejisky:
Dr. Akere is a graduate of the Ahmadu Bello University Medical school, Zaria Nigeria. He completed his rotational internship at the General hospital Largos Nigeria.

He worked as Medical Director of Beachland Estate Clinic from 1989-1992 after which he traveled to the United States where he studied and took the ECFMG & FLEX examinations.

Dr. Akere did his residency at the Cook County Hospital Chicago, IL where he served as chief resident. After this he worked as a faculty physician in the Department of Family Practice of the Cook County Hospital Chicago, Illinois from 1997-2001.

Dr. Akere is a diplomat of the American Board of Family Practice since 1998. He is licensed to practice in the State if Illinois and Indiana. He is a member of the Association of Nigerian Physicians in America and the American Academy of Family Practice. In 1993, he won the McCarthy Award for Academic Excellence at Cambridge tutors college. He is a member of the Board of Trustees at St. Bernard Hospital in Chicago, Il.

Dr. Akere is the Medical Director of Sheridan Medical Center and J.I.L. Medical Consultants. He is a board certified family physician and his practice includes Obstetrics and Child Care

Please note that An obstetrician is a medical doctor who specializes in the management of pregnancy, labor and birth. They also receive specialized education in the area of the female reproductive system and surgical care.

His practice includes... which was going to be my argument FOR him, incase he had ob/gyns working with or for him but this doesn't answer if he a licensed ob/gyn himself.
Also I hope you got a refund for 'hosp' fees since you had your baby at home.

No issues dear, I'm with you on this but
we just want to know we are in safe hands. Life no get duplicate.

ejisky:
I am also not ready to get into any arguments with you! My comment is based on my experience.

Please do you have any fact that suggests he is not qualified? Thinking aloud how would he be able to practice in US for close to 20 years if he is not certified?

Like i stated before I had two babies with him and I had a very fantastic experiences. Mind you it was my 2nd baby that I had at home my first was in the hospital.

Anyways its unfortunate that your friend had a nasty experience.

I am not canvassing for patients for him there are so many hospitals and doctors in Chicago so pips please try other options.

Did you go through Modath's links? What's the argument? Please give us links to prove he is a licensed ob/gyn, for knowledge sake.

ejisky:
Why would he carry out such procedures if he is not licensed? We are talking about the US and not Nigeria...

My dear, I googled him, maybe you should, he is not an ob/gyn. He is a family doctor, thus not licensed to carry out childbirth and surgeries related to childbirth. You took a risk, if it got out of hand... hummnn!

Sorry oo, @ejisky

Did he deliver your baby in the house himself? This is serious.
I was going to help you defend the Doc's performing deliveries and CSection as an Family doctor, thinking he had a faculty of Ob/gyns who does the deliveries under his practice. Now you said he delivered your baby himself.

But is he licensed to carry out such procedures, especially CSections? I just remembered that church member had a fibroid removed in St. Francis Hosp in Chicago, she nearly bled to death. I hope it wasn't this same doc o!

ejisky:
Had my two babies with Dr. Akere and had very good experiences... Issues arise from time to time and that does not make the doctor unqualified or bad....Moreover i find it very difficult to believe that he abandoned his patient. He actually rushed to my sisters house to deliver my second baby because i didn't know i was in labour and the baby came unexpectedly....

He is affiliated to 3 hospitals. i used St. Francis on both occasions.

Normal Delivery
Doctors Charge - $2,500
Hospital Charges - $2,750
Anesthesia - $550
Pediatrician - $880
Laboratory charges- $400
Admin Charges- $500

CS
Doctors Charge - $3,000
Hospital Charges - $3,500
Anesthesia - $800
Pediatrician - $750
Laboratory charges- $450
Admin Charges- $500

@ obeezydabs What is the cook county cost looking like? I hear it can be very high....

I smell a marketer. What is admin charges?

1stCitizen:

I mean one after oga dug the tunnel himself.

But there's no meter, as you find it unbelievable, so will many others, so what's the use? It's either you are a virgin or not. Numbers can be conjured.

ApexTitan:


Oh but it is necessary. A man with a fair approximation of his wife's number count has a fair approximation of the type of woman she is. He knows whether he is settling down with a real good girl or a reformed harlot. It is imperative that the man comes to terms with it at the beginning of the relationship, having it revealed later by accident is most displeasing. The only way he can have such information is to ask, the man should ask her.

The possibility that the woman may lie about such information is why men have been advised to multiply whatever number she states by 3. It then is up to him to decide if he can live with such a woman.

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a life of promiscuity is actually bad

What of the one that says 'I'm a virgin, let's wait until marriage..." Marriage night, you find out its a deep abyss.

Timbuktou:
You have sons don't you? Train them appropriately, dustbin girl.

Oh yes I do, beautiful twin boys who are so well mannered and make people marvel at their politeness.

Timbuktou:


Congratulations, sir. However, the OP's opinions are of little consequence to me. Perhaps the thread should never have been opened in the first place. Now that it has, let's deal with its consequences.

Bros, grow up. There r so many speed bumps you will come across in life, you have to pause and navigate the turn. You may end up finding a virgin with a bad character that may totally ruin the marriage and make you regret.
Or a secondary virgin who has learnt a lot from life and extols virtue in all ramification. Personally, I met my oga early, he was my 1st BF, we parted ways, we moved on even though we were still friends, I got engaged to be married to someone else for 2yrs, it didn't work out cos the guy was an unrepentant serial cheat. Imagine girls calling you to tell you to leave dia fiance alone. Biko, how many of us were fiancee? With ring again?

When I eventually decided to walk out, it was back to my 1st who also has had series of bad experiences, he doesn't even talk about till today. The only one I even know about is how he went out with friends, met this guy got chatting. Ran out of battery, borrowed the guys phone to call his girlfriend that he will be running late and her number is stored as baby. When she picked she was all "hey baby" and he's like how do you know it's me?. And she goes "ah ah, mentions the owner of the phones name, what kind of question is this" All comfortable and familiar.
Isn't that enough to break someone's spirit? In that vein I also shared my miserable experience with that serial philanderer and mentioned the abortion in a fit of rage, without knowing one day I will walk down the aisle with that man.
If he had judged me and labelled me a slut for being engaged to a bastard, and continued searching for the virgin of his dreams, perhaps he would have passed on and lost what became the marriage we are so proud of and hold in high esteem today.

I don't know his body count, I am not interested. He has never asked of my body count, even though i'm assuming he knows it's just one. And even if it's 20 and I'm lying it's just one, how does one verify that?

There are more important issues in life and marriage. Like how to raise the kids, provide the best for them, own your home, plan vacations, retirement and just being in love with each other. The past is ancient history. Don't let it jeopardise what should be a great future.

Emaprince:
this is the best way to put it. I know its difficult and I'm not even searching for it. That's why I called it "once in a life time opportunity".

I'm glad you understand my point. Please explain to that ill trained gutter boy so that he doesn't walk into a web he set up by himself. If you find a virgin, and you can prove it, what other honor does a man deserve? Also make sure she has other virtuous qualities of a wife and a mother, it's not all about sex. Sex is just 20% of marriage, a lot more matters. It's in pregnancy you will find out you are going months without sex cos madam is not in the mood.

babyosisi:


By the post you have proven to me that men who insist on marrying virgins lack in some way
Either in size ,performance or both
A man confident in his abilities will not care who the woman is,he can get anyone and she will come for more because he garrit
A man looking for virgins wants someone who has had no other experiences to compare with
Someone who can't differentiate an anaconda from an HB pencil
Someone who will think a 2 minute performance is all there is
Someone who doesn't know there are men who know how to handle a woman
Same reason some men like to Marry little girls
Real women can see their inadequacies,13 year olds don't know any better

This takes me back to "only a man with zero self esteem will be fishing around with hook and line for a virgin to marry, setting himself up for a marriage based on deception", then come back here and brandish women 'hoes' and all sorts of names just because he found out the woman lied, just to please him.

Timbuktou:


You certainly have a defiled marriage bed. Because if someone saying they would rather marry a virgin sets off your temper, one has to wonder what your history would reveal and the extent to your promiscuity, especially after your marriage.

I have a friend who married a known slut and, you guessed it, they're no longer together. While she was good in bed and could cook the tastiest meals, she couldn't resist the urge of diick-hopping. A biitch is a biitch. As the saying goes, you cannot make a hoe a housewife.

And while there's more to marriage than body counts, it is important to note that women lose the ability to bond with their mates through sex the more cocks they hop on. Then there's the issues of the feel of the puccy after time and diick have taken their toll on it. All the kegels in this world do not replace a naturall tempered puccy, I'm afraid. And how could I possibly let go of her past considering the past of someone like Kilode in here, who's stock in trade was shiit-chomping? You are in denial. Perhaps, you regret not fvcking to your heart's content before you met your husband and have become disillusioned. No matter, have it all now. You certainly are able.

Set off my temper? You are the one ranting and too blinded to read my posts. What's d fun in sleeping around before marriage?Please quote where I advised sleeping around. And how does not being a virgin make you a slut? A woman dated a man that died b4 they got married, does that make her a slut? A woman dated a guy who cheated and she walked away, does that make her a slut?

Isn't it guys like you that deceive girls, get them into bed and dump them, does that make her a slut? You don't know me, you jst write rubbish about promiscuity, I chose to ignore you, the fact that I didn't marry as a virgin doesnt mean I didn't marry who I gave it to. Did you read my post where I mentioned av been with this same man for 10years this year? Does that make me slut? Maybe I am a slut for the 'mumu'. We are two peas in a pod!

Emaprince:
LWKMD bwahahahaha..

Honestly, I do not condem women that dated other men before marriage, but I hate it when non-virgins starts deriding the idea of men wanting to marry virgins. Its a thing of choice and every men should take pride in having that once in a life time opportunity of tieing the knot with a virgin- a woman that NO man have touched.

Deriding ke? If it's possible to find a virgin, by all means keep her! Bt going out of your way searching for a virgin in this age is setting yourself up for disappointment. You want a virgin, she may lie that she's a virgin, decieve you till wedding night and you find yourself inside konga! From that moment, the marriage is headed for disaster. How do you remedy that.
You find a true virgin, it's a bonus.

kilode100:




Guy, what part of I have repented completely did you not understand
My sympathies for your "situation."
E go better

Why are you responding to kids in diapers? Real men would be at work right now, bringing in the cheddar.

Timbuktou:


Don't mind the promiscuous Aunty 4teelaw. She done fvck all her youth troway come carry tokunbo Grade7 give one mumu man wey no sabi say yansh dey tight. She's apparently trying to force-feed us the bvllshit that seeking to marry a virgin or woman of virtue is symptomatic of a childish mind. What effrontery.

Keep searching oooo! But you are definitely not marriage material with a mouth like yours. You are gutter material. Wise men have self confidence, self control and know a good woman when they see one. Body count or no body count.
The 'mumu' man has kept a family intact for 10 solid years, fed, clothed, financed, sheltered a family. If that makes him a mumu, bring it on! We are doing the mumu together!

Timbuktou:
what if I'm not a bachelor? What if I married a virgin? I'm not to blame for the looseness of your puccy, blame your past for that. You've kept your marriage bed intact yet call for treachery and duplicity? Tell your story to the marines. Your marriage may be 'intact', I doubt the marriage bed is. I'm not mad at you, I'm not your husband. But I will call out your BS if and when I feel like it.

And you can school your daughters on the virtue of fvcking around till their puccies lose whatEver firmness it has. And tell your sons, feel free to pluck from that rotten tree, it's all in the past after all.

Kids everywhere sha. You can't be married. Marriage is not for babies. If a small issue like marrying a virgin or not is making you sound like a baby who's lost his rattle, then taking care of a woman and kids will set you off a cliff.
You even need reading lessons, or is it comprehension? Who says a babe should sleep around? I'm saying you shouldn't set your mind on such issues. I didn't marry as a virgin, doesn't mean I didn't marry who I gave it to. I have an old friend who married as a virgin, and she's out on the streets right now? You know why? She had attitude problems, was totally irresponsible and a bad cook. Her hubby stylishly moved out and left her. Did her being a virgin make her a better wife?
There's more to marriage than body counts. What's in her past is in her past. If the future is bright, she completes you, makes you a better person, is full of love and compassion, by all means, carry on!

babyosisi:


My advise remains the same
If it has no detriment to the marriage,keep your mouth shut
Simple
Everyone has a past

Simple oooo!

Timbuktou:


Nobody told you to go fvck the entire neighbourhood. Don't be bringing your slack puccy here, child! It is, in fact, a man with the healthiest self-esteem that would go for only a virgin. He'll be getting an unspoiled specimen, not you loose-puccied lot.

Let me be the first to book your first daughter then. I promise not to fvck her till she's five years old, in the arze.

Read my earlier posts on this thread, then borrow yourself brain. Keep looking for a virgin, child. When kids your age these days have thrown caution to the wind and sleep with any man that shows the money, you would most probably be a very old bachelor. FYI, Some of us have been married for half your age, and even if we weren't virgins, have kept our marriages and the marriage bed intact over the years. If you need schooling, as politely. Okay?

ApexTitan:


Maybe you are joking or you want to get back at the other poster but this statement is patently untrue. Men should be encouraged to marry virgins or women with very low number count as possible. In fact I think that once N>4 for the woman you are heading into troubled waters.

More than half of the weddings you see conducted every saturday end in a quick and nasty divorce, all kinds of people enter into matrimony without being fit for it. In vetting for wife a man should exercise the highest diligence possible, he must have very high standards otherwise he is setting himself up for a world of hurt pain and disappointment. If he cannot do so he is best advised not to marry! The women who have a promiscuous history will continue to play the "pump & dump" role that they are used to even in marriage, why would any man make a wife out of such a woman? It is usually after playing the field that these type of women look to get married then they latch on to the so called good men that they can find. The poor sucker is told that love is all that matters, her history is of no importance meanwhile he is taking in a woman that many others have 'gone to town with' as his wife.

Men should marry virgins or women that are close as possible to one. There is nothing so extraordinary that should drive a man into marriage with a woman with a promiscuous past! This advice is necessary for the times we live in, if you can't find a woman who meets your very high standards then hold aloof from marriage. It is not a do or die affair.

Does that place have a meter that measures Body count! If a woman doesn't tell you, you will never know. So why set yourself up for a big surprise?
Some things are not necessary. It's the 'I must marry virgin or low body count' school of thought that makes women lie about these things, and

Timbuktou:

Only pansies accept a bvllshit past. Men with no self esteem. If she ain"t a virgin, she has no hope of marriage with me. Finito.

Actually a man with no self esteem will be looking for a virgin to marry. Happy searching. My advise, look for a mom to betrothe her newborn to you, so that you can marry her at 15, okay?

Ngokafor:





...Well truth is with or without the op's advise,someone like you who have committed murder will not tell their partner that they are murders....the best your kind would do is claim to be born again,ranting on how you use to be a 'bad boy' whom have seen the 'light'...

...except your partner is suicidal,she will surely dump you faster than you can say 'Jack' if she has an inkling to that fact..I know i would..*no apologies*..


....So kindly stop pretending that you intended to come clean anyway..

Thank you ooo!
It seems women, who can handle sensitive information are actually more in sync with "reveal less"
Meanwhile men who will run at the slightest instance will get be here forming macho man, like they can handle anything.
Being a minor is not by age, it's by your content.
I have a barracks of brothers, and no sisters. I get the opportunity to sit with them and their friends and share experiences. Some dude once told me he had a party, two guys and a girl. I even asked him how he found the experience. He said he was disgusted eventually, and made sure thee other guy was 5 feet away from him. Will he tell his wife this story... he paused...No he wouldn't. She may not be able to handle it (even if I think it's not such a big of a deal for a woman not to handle). What if his wife was in such a party? He flared up, no o! I cannot marry such a woman, and if he does, he should better never know about it. If he marries her before he finds out? He paused again... ehhh, sebi it's in her past sha, but I really don't need to know!

Who remembers this old american flick about a couple who came clean? The guy talked about his deepest darkest past (I can't remember the details) They laugh about it. The woman came clean, her's was that she gave her dog a Mouth Action, and had to kill the dog eventually. Dude couldn't handle it, and he dumped her at the end of the movie.
Someone please help me with the name...

babyosisi:


Hehehehehehe

I didn't say a woman should go out and cheat
I don't condone cheating
I don't cheat
I won't encourage cheating
Far be it from me
Tomorrow now some eediots will start saying what I didn't say that's why I am repeating this

Many of them aren't married. There's no hard and fast rule, only guidelines from people's experiences. I cannot cheat, but for those that ended up cheating, except you were caught, just let it go. The knowledge won't help your spouse in anyway except you did it to hurt the guy, then you may want to throw it in his face (yer, some women cheat just for payback!).

FYI, women hardly ever get caught cheating, many women can hard heartedly take that secret to the grave. And if you ask me, even if you are accused, except there's a video evidence, "It Wasn't You". It's either you don't do it, or cover up your tracks with fresh asphalt. My two cents

Y'all pause!
It depends on the parties in the relationship/marriage. I am a chatterbox, and I have spilled every secret in the box, without even knowing.
Av been with my man 10yrs now and he doesn't like to talk about his past relationships, cos he believes what is past is past. He also doesn't like to hear about my past relationships, so while blabbing uncontrollably, I may mention some guy I dated, and his countenance changes. He just doesn't wanna know so I don't talk about it. Any day he hears from someone something I did in the past, he would ask me and I will share the circumstances, because whenever I raise such a topic, I realise he is not emotionally balanced enough to receive such news. And he thinks I am also not emotionally balanced for whatever stuff he doesn't wanna talk about, so I leave it that way.

When we had fertility challenges, I asked him if he had impregnated a girl b4 and sponsored any abortions, he said maybe, maybe not. Some girls have come with that story, maybe they jst wanted to squeeze money out of him, and he never followed up. I wasn't dazed by that answer, but I was dazed when he told me he knew I had been through an abortion (I am not proud of this one bit). How did he know, I blurted it out one day in useless chatter (as usual) long ago b4 we even courted. Although we never talked about it again, but he never forgot and it's not a big deal we all have our past.

It's been 10 rocky but wonderful years. If he had ever cheated, he will never admit it, it's his way of protecting me, I have never caught him so he is innocent until found guilty. I have never cheated, mostly because I'm too devoted to him and if I cheat, will I tell him? I don't think so. I'm with babyosisi on this. I'll browbeat myself into order, repent and never repeat an episode. I know he can't handle it. He won't leave me, but it will kill his ego and emasculate him, thinking he can't satisfy and provide for me. That's what he fears the most.
So I won't cheat, because I don't want to emasculate him, it's a chore to make him believe in himself again, I'd rather not tow that line. And it's a bigger chore to stop feeling guilty about being the cause of his pain. It will just hurt two of us...

shagaman:


I advise you start looking for an alternative hospital around your place of stay,with the flooding in texas came so many reptiles,and the govt has not yet cleared the environment..

I always like to say a shout out to all Elpaso people ,how unna dey hope u guys are doing great,and to the forum members happy children s day..

Been seeing this flood on the news... It wasn't expected. Houston mamas, please stay sef!

Beht wait!
If na me be Kashamu, I will gladly return to US where ther is light and fuel! Sebi I am innocent? What is there to be afraid of? In US you are innocent until found guilty. Is it not to groove more Chicago Amala and Moet and update bbm status "now chilling in illinois"

Nothing productive to add again, silent reader here too.

No fresh info, everyone waiting for everyone to recycle doctors and hospitals.
Please let's all start researching so that we can contribute meaningfully.

I am even suspecting that some people are no longer sharing meaningful information out of fear of misuse and overuse.

What happened to her private jets kwanu?

MrMandilas:
Pls sweet mamas in the house. I need an answer here. Should wifey tell them at the embassy that she wants to give birth in US? If no, how did u people manage do am? Thanks.

Hi, I don't know if you will get the response you want right now, but it has been exhausted on the other thread, part one.
Or go through Phema's posts for her burden of proof

I currently have openings for the OND graduates, as well as IT students (6 months to 1 year) in a Finance Institution.
Preferably residing in the Lekki, Ajah Axis.
Renumeration is attractive.
Please email CV to before Friday 18th July, 2014.

Best of luck.

shedyman: Good day, my mum just retired from the public service and plans on going into the sale of palm oil as a retirement business. I would rather think this is too petty inview of her gratuity (over 20million naira) but she seems hell bent on going on. Do u consider this line of business viable? If yes, what suggestions can u proffer to aid her? Thanks.

How much about palm oil business does she know? I will suggest she invests in a high yielding investment notes for a 1yr period while she develops a solid business plan around her idea. I can help you with a very good business plan writing consultant if you so wish and recommend some good investment options.