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Re: Election: Don’t Obey Illegal Directives Issued In Buhari’s Name - U.S. Cautions by Nobody: 3:48pm On Feb 08, 2019 |
Olawalesmarter: China is also a stakeholder in America. Most Americans depend on China for numerous consumer products. Therefore, China has the wherewithal to manage their issues. Nigeria does not and can never stand on the same pedestal with China on this subject. Please do not make this comparison. |
Re: Election: Don’t Obey Illegal Directives Issued In Buhari’s Name - U.S. Cautions by Olawalesmarter(m): 3:48pm On Feb 08, 2019 |
Mk17: Remember it was not a Single Terrorist Organization they funded and Provided help for, and these Groups were all Islamic Religion fighters and terrorists in the first place, they were not hijacked or whatever all the group started as A Terrorist Organization, you can go and Research it not hijacked. They were all created as Terrorist Groups in the first place to stop Western Government influence and push Islamic Regime only and that was the reason why they were against their government in the first place, but USA went ahead and funded them anyway but keep defending them |
Re: Election: Don’t Obey Illegal Directives Issued In Buhari’s Name - U.S. Cautions by Olawalesmarter(m): 3:53pm On Feb 08, 2019 |
Mk17: The Groups all started as Islamic Fighters and Terrorist Organization, they started as Islamic Fighters to stop Western Influence in their Region and push only Islamic Regime, but USA funded them and Helped because they didn't like their government too. They were not hijacked in Anyway that's their mission in the first place |
Re: Election: Don’t Obey Illegal Directives Issued In Buhari’s Name - U.S. Cautions by ollah2: 3:55pm On Feb 08, 2019 |
Mk17: Zoharariel you have mail |
Re: Election: Don’t Obey Illegal Directives Issued In Buhari’s Name - U.S. Cautions by Nobody: 3:59pm On Feb 08, 2019 |
Olawalesmarter:why should they help you when they will leave in bodybags? who can't we create our own weapons? you still want them to help you and later get called Invaders by ungrateful people who still depends on aids from America? America has learnt from past mistake and they are not willing to sell to anyone except their allies who can guarantee that those weapons will not end up in the wrong hand or used for ethnic cleansing and war crime. |
Re: Election: Don’t Obey Illegal Directives Issued In Buhari’s Name - U.S. Cautions by Nobody: 4:04pm On Feb 08, 2019 |
Olawalesmarter:I don't love America , I only appreciate their role in this little peace we are enjoying world wide. USA only import some special brand of oil to keep for rainy days and most times they buy oil from allies at inflated price to help their financial situation |
Re: Election: Don’t Obey Illegal Directives Issued In Buhari’s Name - U.S. Cautions by Olawalesmarter(m): 4:12pm On Feb 08, 2019 |
Mk17: We have been living with our Neighbours peacefully for years, and we have successfully enabled peace in other country but you think they shouldn't trust us? we even obeyed international Court order during the Case of Bakassi peninsula so bokoharam should continue ravaging us because we will misuse what we need to fight them abi? so the kurds in Syria, ISIS that got USA weapons are more trustworthy than us abi? They want us to live in peace but Bokoharam can keep ravaging us abi ? keep defending them, seem like you are one of their agent |
Re: Election: Don’t Obey Illegal Directives Issued In Buhari’s Name - U.S. Cautions by Olawalesmarter(m): 4:19pm On Feb 08, 2019 |
Mk17: In 2008, the United States produced around 4.9 million barrels of crude oil per day [source: U.S. Energy Information Administration] -- that's almost two billion of barrels of crude oil for the year! However, the United States still has to import more than twice that amount to fill its business and consumer needs. |
Re: Election: Don’t Obey Illegal Directives Issued In Buhari’s Name - U.S. Cautions by Nobody: 4:20pm On Feb 08, 2019 |
Olawalesmarter:The Soviet–Afghan War lasted over nine years, from December 1979 to February 1989. Osama formed In 1988 al-Qaeda. He was banished from Saudi Arabia in 1992. al-Qaeda came into existence only a year before the end of the war. |
Re: Election: Don’t Obey Illegal Directives Issued In Buhari’s Name - U.S. Cautions by Nobody: 4:23pm On Feb 08, 2019 |
Olawalesmarter:The Soviet–Afghan War lasted over nine years, from December 1979 to February 1989. Osama formed In 1988 al-Qaeda. He was banished from Saudi Arabia in 1992. al-Qaeda came into existence only a year before the end of the war. some of it members were made up of those fighting with the US |
Re: Election: Don’t Obey Illegal Directives Issued In Buhari’s Name - U.S. Cautions by Olawalesmarter(m): 4:30pm On Feb 08, 2019 |
Mk17: They started as a Muslim fighters in the first place because they didn't want western influence Soviet Union was a Western Force, and it was not only Al Qaeda that was funded and aided by USA other terrorist Organization too. |
Re: Election: Don’t Obey Illegal Directives Issued In Buhari’s Name - U.S. Cautions by Nobody: 4:34pm On Feb 08, 2019 |
Olawalesmarter:Irresponsible arms transfers by countries including the UK, USA, Russia, China, Germany and France have provided the armed group with a huge and lethal arsenal. For years, weapons of war have been freely flowing into Iraq. Slack controls over Iraqi military stockpiles and endemic corruption by successive Iraqi governments have added to the problem. When Islamic State (IS) took control of these areas, these weapons were theirs for the taking. These weapons, manufactured at least 25 countries, are now in the hands of ISIS and being used to commit horrific abuses, killings, rape, torture and abduction – and forced thousands to flee their homes. ‘Decades of free-flowing arms into Iraq meant that when IS took control of these areas, they were like children in a sweetshop. I copied that these texts from a US report. they don't want to repeat same mistake twice especially with the massive corruption report in the Nigerian army they are receiving. in few years time, they will be blamed for selling arms to the Nigerian army. do you know how many of the weapons sold to the Nigerian army getting into the hands of Boko Haram due to incompetency and corruption? |
Re: Election: Don’t Obey Illegal Directives Issued In Buhari’s Name - U.S. Cautions by Olawalesmarter(m): 4:36pm On Feb 08, 2019 |
Mk17: Al-Qaeda (/ælˈkaɪdə, ˌælkɑːˈiːdə/; Arabic: القاعدة al-Qāʿidah, IPA: [ælqɑːʕɪdɐ], translation: "The Base", "The Foundation" or "The Database", alternatively spelled al-Qaida and al-Qa'ida) is a militant Sunni Islamist multi-national organization founded in 1988[33] by Osama bin Laden, Abdullah Azzam,[34] and several other Arab volunteers during the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan.[6] and USA funded them, provided intelligience and Helped to them, |
Re: Election: Don’t Obey Illegal Directives Issued In Buhari’s Name - U.S. Cautions by Olawalesmarter(m): 4:43pm On Feb 08, 2019 |
Mk17: whatever their reason is for not selling weapons to us or delivering weapon on time, it means Bokoharam can continue ravaging us and they don't give a Phuck! Which means they are helping Bokoharam. They don't really give a phuck about mismanagement of weapons or whatever, They are actually Helping Bokoharam Indirectly |
Re: Election: Don’t Obey Illegal Directives Issued In Buhari’s Name - U.S. Cautions by Nobody: 4:43pm On Feb 08, 2019 |
Olawalesmarter:there was no Al Queda before US came to help fight Soviet invasion. Osama hijacked and took advantage of some of those who fought side by side with the US to pursue his selfish Islamic agenda because he has always been against a Jewish-christain relationship between the US and Isreal. Osama funded the Mujahideen with his father's wealth by funneling arms, money and fighters from the Arab world into Afghanistan, and gained popularity among many Arabs. Osama was already secretly funding Islamic terrorist before the US came |
Re: Election: Don’t Obey Illegal Directives Issued In Buhari’s Name - U.S. Cautions by Nobody: 4:49pm On Feb 08, 2019 |
Olawalesmarter:you are accusing them of funding terrorist because of what they did in good faith to help humanity and now you still want them to repeat exactly what you are blaming them for? |
Re: Election: Don’t Obey Illegal Directives Issued In Buhari’s Name - U.S. Cautions by Olawalesmarter(m): 4:52pm On Feb 08, 2019 |
Mk17: You really believed this bullshits , Even USA Admitted their guilt but you have been defending them since |
Re: Election: Don’t Obey Illegal Directives Issued In Buhari’s Name - U.S. Cautions by Nobody: 4:55pm On Feb 08, 2019 |
Olawalesmarter:Al-Qaeda ( / ælˈkaɪdə, ˌælkɑːˈiːdə/ ; Arabic : ﺍﻟﻘﺎﻋﺪﺓ al-Qāʿidah , IPA: [ælqɑːʕɪdɐ] , translation: "The Base", "The Foundation" or "The Database", alternatively spelled al-Qaida and al-Qa'ida ) is a militant Sunni Islamist multi-national organization founded in 1988 [33] by Osama bin Laden , Abdullah Azzam, [34] and several other Arab volunteers during the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan . [6] and you added the last part to make it seem you are coping from same article? that is the corruption we are talking about |
Re: Election: Don’t Obey Illegal Directives Issued In Buhari’s Name - U.S. Cautions by Olawalesmarter(m): 4:56pm On Feb 08, 2019 |
Mk17: The United States and the Mujahideen 34.6.4: The United States and the Mujahideen The United States viewed the conflict in Afghanistan as an integral Cold War struggle, and the CIA provided assistance to anti-Soviet mujahideen rebels through the Pakistani intelligence services in a program called Operation Cyclone. LEARNING OBJECTIVE Discuss the ties between the United States and the mujahideen KEY POINTS Although U.S. President Jimmy Carter’s focus was more on Iran during the months before the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, he initiated a covert program through the CIA to financially support the Afghan rebels, the mujahideen, in July 1979. After the Soviet invasion in December 1979, which was a surprise to Carter, the CIA expanded the program, code-named Operation Cyclone, and began providing weapons along with money to the mujahideen through the Pakistani intelligence services. Operation Cyclone was one of the longest and most expensive covert CIA operations ever undertaken. More than $20 billion in U.S. funds was funneled into the country to train and arm Afghan resistance groups. The U.S.-built Stinger antiaircraft missile, supplied to the mujahideen in very large numbers beginning in 1986, struck a decisive blow to the Soviets. The Stingers were so renowned and deadly that in the 1990s, the United States conducted a “buy-back” program to keep unused missiles from falling into the hands of anti-American terrorists, an effort which was covertly renewed in the early 2000s. |
Re: Election: Don’t Obey Illegal Directives Issued In Buhari’s Name - U.S. Cautions by Nobody: 4:58pm On Feb 08, 2019 |
Olawalesmarter:read history not conspiracy theories written by delude humans. this is the reason Trump is not willing to help any country. people will always label the US a bad person after helping yet they keep crying for help |
Re: Election: Don’t Obey Illegal Directives Issued In Buhari’s Name - U.S. Cautions by Olawalesmarter(m): 5:00pm On Feb 08, 2019 |
Mk17: i did not make it seem like that , i actually wrote it but i think it was your brain that thought i wrote it to make it seem so |
Re: Election: Don’t Obey Illegal Directives Issued In Buhari’s Name - U.S. Cautions by Olawalesmarter(m): 5:01pm On Feb 08, 2019 |
Mk17: KEY TERMS Reagan Doctrine A strategy orchestrated and implemented by the United States under the Reagan Administration to overwhelm the global influence of the Soviet Union in an attempt to end the Cold War. Under this doctrine, the United States provided overt and covert aid to anti-communist guerrillas and resistance movements to “roll back” Soviet-backed communist governments in Africa, Asia, and Latin America. Operation Cyclone The code name for the United States Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) program to arm and finance the Jihadi warriors, mujahideen, in Afghanistan from 1979 to 1989, prior to and during the military intervention by the USSR in support of its client, the Democratic Republic of Afghanistan. mujahideen The term for one engaged in Jihad. In English usage, it originally referred to the guerrilla type military outfits led by the Muslim Afghan warriors in the Soviet–- War, but now may refer to jihadist outfits in other countries. |
Re: Election: Don’t Obey Illegal Directives Issued In Buhari’s Name - U.S. Cautions by Olawalesmarter(m): 5:04pm On Feb 08, 2019 |
Mk17: They actually started funding terrorists because of their supremacy battle with the Soviet Union, to Cripple soviet Union Government, not in good faith, they knew they were funding terrorists but continue anyway because they were fighting the cold war with the Soviet Union |
Re: Election: Don’t Obey Illegal Directives Issued In Buhari’s Name - U.S. Cautions by Olawalesmarter(m): 5:08pm On Feb 08, 2019 |
Mk17: USA did not help anybody, they were helping themselves they intentionally funded the Jihadi Warrior in Afghanistan to go against soviet Union Government in Afghanistan, |
Re: Election: Don’t Obey Illegal Directives Issued In Buhari’s Name - U.S. Cautions by Nobody: 5:10pm On Feb 08, 2019 |
Olawalesmarter:Many Muslims from other countries assisted the various mujahideen groups in Afghanistan. Some groups of these veterans became significant players in later conflicts in and around the Muslim world. Osama bin Laden , originally from a wealthy family in Saudi Arabia , was a prominent organizer and financier of an all-Arab Islamist group of foreign volunteers; his Maktab al-Khadamat funnelled money, arms, and Muslim fighters from around the Muslim world into Afghanistan, with the assistance and support of the Saudi and Pakistani governments. [12] These foreign fighters became known as " Afghan Arabs" and their efforts were coordinated by Abdullah Yusuf Azzam. Although the mujahideen were aided by the Pakistani, U.S., and Saudi governments, the mujahideen's primary source of funding was private donors and religious charities throughout the Muslim world—particularly in the Persian Gulf. Jason Burke recounts that "as little as 25 per cent of the money for the Afghan jihad was actually supplied directly by states." [13] many Muslims and mosque around the world supported and donated funds for their fight to get their country first from British invasion and then the Soviet invasion. so it is not only America that funded them. that they later got hijacked by selfish people for Islamic agenda is not America fault alone. you should also blame all Muslim around the world |
Re: Election: Don’t Obey Illegal Directives Issued In Buhari’s Name - U.S. Cautions by Nobody: 5:12pm On Feb 08, 2019 |
Olawalesmarter:okay, fine. Nigeria should fight Boko Haram as US don't help people |
Re: Election: Don’t Obey Illegal Directives Issued In Buhari’s Name - U.S. Cautions by Olawalesmarter(m): 5:16pm On Feb 08, 2019 |
Re: Election: Don’t Obey Illegal Directives Issued In Buhari’s Name - U.S. Cautions by Nobody: 5:17pm On Feb 08, 2019 |
Olawalesmarter:they only got 25% of the cost of the war from the US, Saudi Arabia and Pakistan. the remaining 75 was gotten from wealthy Muslims and donation from mosque around the world . if they become a terrorist group turning on their own Muslim brothers, you also blame Muslims around the world who funded this war against invasion |
Re: Election: Don’t Obey Illegal Directives Issued In Buhari’s Name - U.S. Cautions by Nobody: 6:51pm On Feb 08, 2019 |
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Re: Election: Don’t Obey Illegal Directives Issued In Buhari’s Name - U.S. Cautions by Nobody: 7:03pm On Feb 08, 2019 |
nemesis8u:the population of India alone is more than that of the whole of Africa or Europe. you should not be comparing the GDP of large and over populated countries with smaller countries. you should use GDP per capita as they tell the true story. there are almost 20 African countries including Nigeria with a higher and better GDP per capita than that of India. you should be comparing India to continent as they need the money that is enough to run two continent so their citizens can live a meaningful life |
Re: Election: Don’t Obey Illegal Directives Issued In Buhari’s Name - U.S. Cautions by Nobody: 7:15pm On Feb 08, 2019 |
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