olas24u:

The average indigenous lagosian is not a tribal bigot,you arguments seems to emphasize discrimination against the igbos.look at the arguments rationally.lagos has 20 local governments and lcdas bringing it to 57.from the 20local government areas,the politicans know the stronghold of the opposition,they include oshodi/isolo,ajeronmi ifelodun,,amuwo odofin etc.You need a % from the total number of of vote casted. the igbo population is these areas don't vote according to ideology of the pdp but based on ethnic bais and hearsay,word of the mouth and they give bulk votes to the pdp. tony nwulu contested and won in oshodi/isolo collecting all benefits 14million monthly for 4 years,with other incentives,today he his back in imo state contesting has a governor with money made and contacts made from the position.its common sense and no brainer to know the right thing to do.they benefit from everything, education,healthcare ,transport,tourism,employment,and when it is time to support the party and people ,you vote based on ethnic groupings.there are Yoruba oppositions,but we all know it is elites fighting over resource distrubution among themselves.

freeze001:


The strong opposition areas you have mentioned are 3 out of the 20 LGAs. The constitutional requirement for winning apart from a simple majority is to score at least 25% in 2/3 of the LGAs. The Yoruba and APC areas are clearly in the majority and have the numbers to achieve the constitutional requirements for an electoral victory so I ask again, why the isolation and harassment of Igbos living in Lagos? Besides what is wrong with bulk voting? Do others like the Hausas and your people not do the same? Is that a reason to single out a tribe and attack them? You know, your assertion now smacks of the word-of-mouth bias you accuse others of.

olas24u:

What is wrong in going back to develop your own space?Or mind your business ,we have hausas in Lagos, nobody is doing such or telling them anything.you have accept what your host wants ,you cannot have your own agenda here.

freeze001:


So basically Nigerian citizens cannot exercise an independent right to vote their choices of candidates who are also indigenes of a particular state? And somehow this makes a lot of sense to you? You cannot tell Hausas because you are afraid of them however, your intent to dictate to Igbos will not work. You have the majority, use your numbers and don't be greedy!

freeze001:


So basically Nigerian citizens cannot exercise an independent right to vote their choices of candidates who are also indigenes of a particular state? And somehow this makes a lot of sense to you? You cannot tell Hausas because you are afraid of them however, your intent to dictate to Igbos will not work. You have the majority, use your numbers and don't be greedy!

olas24u:

Well ,you don't understand what I have tried to explain you can has well continue with your ways in Lagos and get the results soon.No lagosian comes to your place during election to vote.

olas24u:

Firstly,you are not a citizen of Lagos but resident in Lagos,the unitary system you igbos introduced has given an advantage to claim peooles land.your rights are limited, democracy is not universal in practice and this is it.you must align with the desires and the aspirations if the people of Lagos.

freeze001:


This is you making up rules as you go along. Lagos is not a country in Nigeria but a state with her indigenes. We are all citizens of Nigeria with a right Ito register and vote/be voted for in any part of the country. As there are Lagosians supporting APC, so are there Lagosians supporting PDP. Every resident/indigene of Lagos eligible to vote will follow their choice and vote accordingly, simple! Your bias would have made more sense if Igbos had formed a political party and fielded a guber candidate in Lagos. That is not the case here and there is freedom of association.

Igbos hate the unitary system and have always been in the forefront for regional governance or outright separation. Until that happens, it is what it is.

freeze001:


This is you making up rules as you go along. Lagos is not a country in Nigeria but a state with her indigenes. We are all citizens of Nigeria with a right to register and vote/be voted for in any part of the country. As there are Lagosians supporting APC, so are there Lagosians supporting PDP. Every resident/indigene of Lagos eligible to vote will follow their choice and vote accordingly, simple! Your bias would have made more sense if Igbos had formed a political party and fielded a guber candidate in Lagos. That is not the case here and there is freedom of association.

Igbos hate the unitary system and have always been in the forefront for regional governance or outright separation. Until that happens, it is what it is.

freeze001:


This is you making up rules as you go along. Lagos is not a country in Nigeria but a state with her indigenes. We are all citizens of Nigeria with a right to register and vote/be voted for in any part of the country. As there are Lagosians supporting APC, so are there Lagosians supporting PDP. Every resident/indigene of Lagos eligible to vote will follow their choice and vote accordingly, simple! Your bias would have made more sense if Igbos had formed a political party and fielded a guber candidate in Lagos. That is not the case here and there is freedom of association.

Igbos hate the unitary system and have always been in the forefront for regional governance or outright separation. Until that happens, it is what it is.

olas24u:

Elites decide for a community,the elites are the thinkers,the rich,the educated,and people with influence,they know what is right for the future,for the next 50years. so the Lagos elites want APC to continue in the same direction

olas24u:

So you have forgotten so easily ,that Apga fielded a candidate in Lagos?he could not speak the local dailect ,yet he was talking poo on TV and making fun of himself and increas ing the mileage of sum total of what igbos have done in Lagos.

olas24u:

The average indigenous lagosian is not a tribal bigot...lagos has 20 local governments and lcdas bringing it to 57.from the 20local government areas,the politicans know the stronghold of the opposition,they include oshodi/isolo,ajeronmi ifelodun,,amuwo odofin etc...the igbo population in these areas don't vote according to ideology of the pdp but based on ethnic bais and hearsay,word of the mouth and they give bulk votes to the pdp.

freeze001:

Yorubas have the majority number, the elite according to you are the thinkers while ordinary residents/indigenes are just there to mark present, they do not count beyond votes that is why u feel they cannot think. So let the unthinking majority follow the elite in their large numbers while the fewer independent minded ones exercise their franchise to vote as they will in peace. Is that too much to ask and do?


And what happened? He was drowned out by your numbers wasn't he? That is what it should be rather that getting overly sensitive and whipping up violent sentiments. How many votes did he get from even the Igbo residents as you claimed in your earlier post that Igbos vote only along ethnic lines and not ideology?

freeze001:


This is you making up rules as you go along. Lagos is not a country in Nigeria but a state with her indigenes. We are all citizens of Nigeria with a right to register and vote/be voted for in any part of the country. As there are Lagosians supporting APC, so are there Lagosians supporting PDP. Every resident/indigene of Lagos eligible to vote will follow their choice and vote accordingly, simple! Your bias would have made more sense if Igbos had formed a political party and fielded a guber candidate in Lagos. That is not the case here and there is freedom of association.

Igbos hate the unitary system and have always been in the forefront for regional governance or outright separation. Until that happens, it is what it is.

freeze001:


This is you making up rules as you go along. Lagos is not a country in Nigeria but a state with her indigenes. We are all citizens of Nigeria with a right to register and vote/be voted for in any part of the country. As there are Lagosians supporting APC, so are there Lagosians supporting PDP. Every resident/indigene of Lagos eligible to vote will follow their choice and vote accordingly, simple! Your bias would have made more sense if Igbos had formed a political party and fielded a guber candidate in Lagos. That is not the case here and there is freedom of association.

Igbos hate the unitary system and have always been in the forefront for regional governance or outright separation. Until that happens, it is what it is.

freeze001:


This is you making up rules as you go along. Lagos is not a country in Nigeria but a state with her indigenes. We are all citizens of Nigeria with a right to register and vote/be voted for in any part of the country. As there are Lagosians supporting APC, so are there Lagosians supporting PDP. Every resident/indigene of Lagos eligible to vote will follow their choice and vote accordingly, simple! Your bias would have made more sense if Igbos had formed a political party and fielded a guber candidate in Lagos. That is not the case here and there is freedom of association.

Igbos hate the unitary system and have always been in the forefront for regional governance or outright separation. Until that happens, it is what it is.

olas24u:

That was just one ,Tony nwulu won oshodi/isolo,made hell of money from the house of Representatives,today he is contesting in Imo state has a governor,that 14million monthly for 4 years would have benefitted a Yoruba man and his family and dependents and society,and many households.

olas24u:

Igbos want more state creation?igbos want 6 vice presidents,igbo what local government scrapped,igbos want state of residential rights,igbos do not want restructuring ,but another experiment with people's life just like this unitary .we all suffered it for more than 50 years now.

olas24u:

In the present day Nigeria your contribution to the center is below 5%.hence you contribute nothing to Nigeria at the center .unless you want to claim nigerdelta.but only igbo state added together contribute less .

olas24u:

I have travelled far and wide and I know what an writing about,opportunities are limited,no access to sea or land border,only one international airport and not has busy busy has Lagos or Kano or abuja.how many multinational companies are there in the east?you people are so scattered everywhere trying to claim other peoples land.very low GDP ,they contribute less to the national purse,very small land size,high literacy rate among women,low literacy rate among men.they will like to live and die in lagos

freeze001:


This statement shows your pre-occupation with crude oil and nothing more.

olas24u:


? Lagos make money by itself

freeze001:


Igbos want more state creation: Yes, in the absence of regional restructuring. It will bring equity and cure the disadvantage of having 5 while others have 6 and even the N/W has 7.

Igbos want 6 Vice Presidents: That is if another from of regional restructuring is achieved by recognising the the six geopolitical zones constitutionally and power/funds are devolved from the centre to the zones or better still, the bottle feeding system of resource allocation from ND to FG to states is scrapped. Then there can be a president and 6 vices from each region.

Igbos want LGAs scrapped? I won't even talk on this but read this: http://thenigerianexpression.com/2018/01/26/scrap-local-govt-apc-recommends/
Na Igbo be APC wey recommend this one?
https://www.tribuneonlineng.com/103071/ https://www.sunnewsonline.com/scrap-local-govt-system-analyst-urges-fg/
Akinkunmi na Igbo man too?

Igbos want state of residence rights: Sane Nigerians also want same but fear of 'losing' ethnic advantages overshadows this. Residence rather than origin will better unify and create a real nation if we are so inclined. Unfortunately that is not the case so it is moot and that is why Igbos will rather have regional systems or outright separation.

freeze001:
Granted, Lagos is not wholly dependent on crude oil earnings but it still takes its jumbo share. Now how does Lagos make money by itself? Just because it is Lagos or through the human/commercial resources available in the state? Can you discount the humans (indigenes and non-indigenes alike) and business ventures/investments that pay taxes? Is it possible to disregard international investors who are also non-Nigerian citizens? If you think Lagos and any state as presently constituted in this system of government can survive without 'federal allocation', let that allocation be withheld for a month or more then tell me what would happen.

freeze001:
Granted, Lagos is not wholly dependent on crude oil earnings but it still needs and takes its jumbo share. Now how does Lagos make money by itself? Just because it is Lagos or through the human/commercial resources available in the state? Can you discount the humans (indigenes and non-indigenes alike) and business ventures/investments that pay taxes? Is it possible to disregard international investors who are also non-Nigerian citizens? If you think Lagos and any state as presently constituted in this system of government can survive without 'federal allocation', let that allocation be withheld for a month or more then tell me what would happen.

olas24u:

Did you read all you wrote and think about them?Oyo state is just one state in western Nigeria and it bigger than all the igbo states added together and yet they have one governor ?and you don't know state creation is expensive and wastage and continuation of the same thing all over again?what is equity with small land size and small population compared to the north?you people are not ready for development.in Ghana it is regions,kenya ,same, South Africa same,United kingdom same,United Arab Emirates same.what is wrong with you?

olas24u:

Educational tax ?technology tax

freeze001:


Igbos want more state creation: Yes, in the absence of regional restructuring. It will bring equity and cure the disadvantage of having 5 while others have 6 and even the N/W has 7.

Igbos want 6 Vice Presidents: That is if another from of regional restructuring is achieved by recognising the the six geopolitical zones constitutionally and power/funds are devolved from the centre to the zones or better still, the bottle feeding system of resource allocation from ND to FG to states is scrapped. Then there can be a president and 6 vices from each region.

Igbos want LGAs scrapped? I won't even talk on this but read this: http://thenigerianexpression.com/2018/01/26/scrap-local-govt-apc-recommends/
Na Igbo be APC wey recommend this one?
https://www.tribuneonlineng.com/103071/ https://www.sunnewsonline.com/scrap-local-govt-system-analyst-urges-fg/
Akinkunmi na Igbo man too?

Igbos want state of residence rights: Sane Nigerians also want same but fear of 'losing' ethnic advantages overshadows this. Residence rather than origin will better unify and create a real nation if we are so inclined. Unfortunately that is not the case so it is moot and that is why Igbos will rather have regional systems or outright separation.

olas24u:

Are you joking or writing just to get heard?firstly when you land in Lagos you pay coporate taxes,Lagos contributes 40% to the national purse.how much more ogun state with the largest number of industries 20%,,oil money is not a major factor in Lagos ,maybe in ekiti,osun.not lagos

freeze001:


Still boils down to the human resources I wrote about which you cannot disregard whether Yoruba, Igbo, Hausa, Tiv, Ibibio, Kalabari or non-Nigerians.

olas24u:

Nobody takes you people serious anymore,yourbas want regionalism,fiscal federalism, competition?3 or 4 countries called Nigeria,like Scotland,Wales,northern Ireland ,london

freeze001:



Like I said, let that oil money be withheld for a month or more...

olas24u:

Oil is now contributing less in the west ,so remove that your primitive thinking.lagos generates 40billion monthly.oil accounts for 10% if an correct.