olas24u:

Sharia is a way of life and not state or country way of life,Nigeria is a secular country and not a sharia country.you have to the right to religion and liberty and do what you like personally,you cannot force sharia on other people.

Who's forcing it on people? It's on Muslims, it involves how we live from the family, marriage, etc. it's for Muslims not Christians.

BeansAndBread:
Lady, we're talking about WAEC not foreign Exams. You can't set exams on Friday from 1-3pm, it's not done, don't you get it? Abi what kind of Muslim are you anyways?

Well,you can't question my type of Muslim,but you have to be progressive ,accept development,accept education.even though the argument maybe okay,what about the ghanian Muslims?we did not hear anything from Muslims in other West African countries.next week ,we will read another stupid article again .

olas24u:

Well,you can't question my type of Muslim,but you have to be progressive ,accept development,accept education.even though the argument maybe okay,what about the ghanian Muslims?we did not hear anything from Muslims in other West African countries.next week ,we will read another stupid article again .

What kind of development and progress are you talking about? So we should abandon prayers, the primary purpose for which you were created, for an exam? You can't be serious lady, haba!!! And you think because you don't hear news from Ghana means they don't object? And even if they don't object, aren't we one ummah, and we are expected to speak and support one another? You don't water down Islam, you give God the attention and respect he deserves. No one messes with Saturday for Seventh day Adventist or Sundays for other Pentecostal, but why 1-3pm for Muslims?

BeansAndBread:
Who's forcing it on people? It's on Muslims, it involves how we live from the family, marriage, etc. it's for Muslims not Christians.

Is the constitution of the country greater than sharia or sharia is greater than the constitution of Nigeria?you live you life personally, has a Muslim but obey the laws that has been layed down.This your own is political sharia .

olas24u:

Is the constitution of the country greater than sharia or sharia is greater than the constitution of Nigeria?you live you life personally, has a Muslim but obey the laws that has been layed down.This your own is political sharia .

Wrong, I'm not even meant to stress the issue of Shariah as the primary purpose of Muslims is to worship God while maintaining his oneness (Tawheed) but shariah goes beyond what you understand as for instance, Zakat for the poor is collected, inheritance, etc. Only God however can establish it but one contention is worshipping him and this is something WAEC intentionally wants to hinder which isn't acceptable.

BeansAndBread:
You call people who ask for their rights to wear hijab, exams not being set at PRAYER TIMES (1-3pm) Arab slaves. I'm beginning to doubt you're a Muslim, maybe you're one of those confused Chris-Muss, those with Muslim fathers and Christian mothers but don't know where to stand.

This is Africa, Nigeria,you cannot be more Muslim than the Arab world and they still don't accept you the black man.so why causing confusion with an imported religion.what about the ifa worshippers,the sango people ,did you factor their own dates.in India they have 3thousand GOD,s and nothing of such in that country.

BeansAndBread:
What kind of development and progress are you talking about? So we should abandon prayers, the primary purpose for which you were created, for an exam? You can't be serious lady, haba!!! And you think because you don't hear news from Ghana means they don't object? And even if they don't object, aren't we one ummah, and we are expected to speak and support one another? You don't water down Islam, you give God the attention and respect he deserves. No one messes with Saturday for Seventh day Adventist or Sundays for other Pentecostal, but why 1-3pm for Muslims?

The outcome of this arguments will affect tommorow and the future yet on unborn in this country.you personally maybe honest and sincere but maynot know what other are doing for political gains.

olas24u:

This is Africa, Nigeria,you cannot be more Muslim than the Arab world and they still don't accept you the black man.so why causing confusion with an imported religion.what about the ifa worshippers,the sango people ,did you factor their own dates.in India they have 3thousand GOD,s and nothing of such in that country.

What's wrong with you exactly? Do you even pray your five daily prayers? There's nothing like Arab here, no one is competing with an Arab, the Prophet (Sallalahu Alayhi wa Salam) said the best among you the one with the greatest piety to Allaah not to please Arabs, you're pleasing God. No Arab is here to notice you and In case you don't know, many blacks have attained status in Arab lands, so don't come with that rhetoric. Sheikh AbdulWahab Ajia a Yoruba man used to teach Arabs and other races in medina before he came to nigeria.

And as for India, there are more than 200 million Muslims in India and there are conflicts, Hinduism isn't he only religion. If Ifa people want their rights, they can challenge the status quo, no one is against that. Stop saying rubbish because you want to please yeebhoes

olas24u:

The outcome of this arguments will affect tommorow and the future yet on unborn in this country.you personally maybe honest and sincere but maynot know what other are doing for political gains.

Believe me, I still don't get your points. Christians won't accept this if it was done to them, how can you set exams on Friday when the children are to be worshipping God from 1-3pm? How does that make sense to you? Who exactly are you trying to please with rhetorics like this?

BeansAndBread:
Believe me, I still don't get your points. Christians won't accept this if it was done to them, how can you set exams on Friday when the children are to be worshipping God from 1-3pm? How does that make sense to you? Who exactly are you trying to please with rhetorics like this?

I will accept this arguments ,it's an acceptable arguments based on what we have discussed so far,but if you separate religion from the management of state.its still does not make sense,in a secular country.

BeansAndBread:
What's wrong with you exactly? Do you even pray your five daily prayers? There's nothing like Arab here, no one is competing with an Arab, the Prophet (Sallalahu Alayhi wa Salam) said the best among you the one with the greatest piety to Allaah not to please Arabs, you're pleasing God. No Arab is here to notice you and In case you don't know, many blacks have attained status in Arab lands, so don't come with that rhetoric. Sheikh AbdulWahab Ajia a Yoruba man used to teach Arabs and other races in medina before he came to nigeria.

And as for India, there are more than 200 million Muslims in India and there are conflicts, Hinduism isn't he only religion. If Ifa people want their rights, they can challenge the status quo, no one is against that. Stop saying rubbish because you want to please yeebhoes

This is not an Islamic republic,it's the federal republic of Nigeria ,and it's secular in nature,so fanatism and over doing things and making utterances just to divide people should be frowned at,I have read so much from muric and I don't like that organization.statement from the organization is political,it menat to divide,destroy, manipulate the minds of people .

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olas24u:
in India they have 3thousand GOD,s and nothing of such in that country.

330 million Gods not three thousands. And not all Hindus believe in God. Some have their own set of Gods, some believe in a shapeless one God while rest are atheists, lot of Hindus don't believe in God. Definition of religion is different in India and East Asia from rest of the world.

olas24u:

This is not an Islamic republic,it's the federal republic of Nigeria ,and it's secular in nature,so fanatism and over doing things and making utterances just to divide people should be frowned at,I have read so much from muric and I don't like that organization.statement from the organization is political,it menat to divide,destroy, manipulate the minds of people .

What do you define as fanaticism exactly? Worshipping God isn't fanaticism, the West hich we claim to emulate allow it. You being a Muslim should know what we as Muslims do, I don't have to spell it out for you. I don't know people like you see going to mosques and adhering to Islam as fanaticism. Being secular has nothing to do with, Turkey is a secular country but Islam is respected and given it's due accolades.

Islam is part of Nigeria before the British came, we can't stop practicing because the British handed us secularity. In case you don't know, secularism is accompanied with liberalism in a democracy and it seeks to accommodate different cultures and rights. Being secular doesn't mean we're an atheist republic.

olas24u:

I will accept this arguments ,it's an acceptable arguments based on what we have discussed so far,but if you separate religion from the management of state.its still does not make sense,in a secular country.

Ok, let's go easily. What's secularism, democracy?

BeansAndBread:
Ok, let's go easily. What's secularism, democracy?

In political terms, secularism is the principle of the separation of government institutions and persons mandated to represent the state from religious institution and religious dignitaries ,the attainment of such is termed secularity.

BeansAndBread:
Ok, let's go easily. What's secularism, democracy?

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What is a Secular State?
A secular state is a country where religion does not play a part in law making.

What is a Secular State?
A country who does not base its laws on religion or cite an official religion is secular.

A secular state is a country where the state is keep separate from religion, and the state does not discriminate or favor persons based on their religious beliefs. Within a secular state, the government does not interfere with religion and its activities, as long as such activities are done under the confines of the law. A secular state is not inspired by religion when formulating laws and policies. The establishment of a secular state is necessary if a country is to have true freedom of religion. Countries can become secular states upon creation (such as the United States), or after undergoing secularization where the religion (the church) is separated from the state (such as France).

Which Countries Are Secular States?
There are a total of 96 secular states in the world. Africa and Europe have the highest number of secular states in the world, with 27 and 33 secular states respectively. There are 20 secular states in Asia, while South America has seven secular states. Oceania and North America have the least number of secular states, with only 4 (Australia, New Zealand, Micronesia, and Fiji) in Oceania and 5 (The United States, Mexico, Cuba, Canada, and Honduras) in North America. However, many secular states exhibit tendencies seen in religious states. For instance, the UK is a recognized secular state, but its constitution requires the head of state to swear to protect the Church of England through taking the Coronation Oath. This oath which was enacted in the late 17th century is characteristic to religious states, and not secular states. Another point of concern is seen in the UK’s House of Lords that features clergymen drawn from the Church of England.

Former Secular Countries

Some countries were initially secular states but later changed their laws, establishing state religions and turning into religious states in reverse progression. There are only two examples of such countries in the world; Iran and Iraq. Iran had established itself as a secular state in 1925 and held that definition until the 1979 Islamic Revolution that resulted in the institution of Islam as the state religion in Iran. Another Middle East country that is a former secular country is Iraq, which became a secular state after gaining independence in 1925. However, the country adopted a new constitution in 2005 which saw the recognition of Islam as the state religion, turning Iraq into a religious state.

Ambiguous Countries
There are countries in the world that define themselves as secular states but have instituted policies and laws that are against secularism. Such countries are termed as ambiguous states in the context of secularism. Armenia is a perfect example of an ambiguous country, as its constitution defines it as a secular state but surprisingly also establishes the national church to be the Armenian Apostolic Church. Another example is Norway, whose constitution provides for the separation of religion and the state but requires the King of Norway to be a member of the Church of Norway. Other such countries include Finland, Argentina, Georgia, Romania, El Salvador, Nauru, Israel, Bangladesh, Myanmar, Lebanon, Indonesia, and Malaysia.


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5 Burundi Africa
6 Cameroon Africa
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8 Chad Africa
9 Cote d'Ivoire Africa
10 Democratic Republic of the Congo Africa
11 Republic of the Congo Africa
12 Ethiopia Africa
13 France Africa
14 Gabon Africa
15 Guinea Africa
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17 Liberia Africa
18 Madagascar Africa
19 Mali Africa
20 Namibia Africa
21 Niger Africa
22 Nigeria Africa
23 Rwanda Africa
24 Senegal Africa
25 South African Africa
26 South Sudan Africa
27 Tanzania Africa
28 Uganda Africa
29 Azerbiajan Asia
30 China Asia
31 East Timor Asia
32 India Asia
33 Japan Asia
34 Kazakhstan Asia
35 North Korea Asia
36 South Korea Asia
37 Kyrgyzstan Asia
38 Laos Asia
39 Nepal Asia
40 Philippines Asia
41 Singapore Asia
42 Sri Lanka Asia
43 Taiwan Asia
44 Tajikistan Asia
45 Turkey Asia
46 Turkmenistan Asia
47 Uzbekistan Asia
48 Vietnam Asia
49 Albania Europe
50 Austria Europe
51 Belarus Europe
52 Belgium Europe
53 Bosnia and Herzegovina Europe
54 Bulgaria Europe
55 Croatia Europe
56 Cyprus Europe
57 Czech Republic Europe
58 Estonia Europe
59 France Europe
60 Germany Europe
61 Hungary Europe
62 Ireland Europe
63 Italy Europe
64 Kosovo Europe
65 Latvia Europe
66 Macedonia Europe
67 Netherlands Europe
68 Northern Cyprus Europe
69 Norway Europe
70 Poland Europe
71 Portugal Europe
72 Russia Europe
73 Serbia Europe
74 Slovakia Europe
75 Sloevenia Europe
76 Spain Europe
77 Sweden Europe
78 Turkey Europe
79 Ukraine Europe
80 Canada North America
81 Cuba North America
82 Honduras North America
83 Mexico North America
84 United States North America
85 Australia Oceania
86 Fiji Oceania
87 Federated States of Micronesia Oceania
88 New Zealand Oceania
89 Brazil South America
90 Chile South America
91 Colombia South America
92 Ecuador South America
93 Peru South America
94 Uruguay South America
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BeansAndBread:
What do you define as fanaticism exactly? Worshipping God isn't fanaticism, the West hich we claim to emulate allow it. You being a Muslim should know what we as Muslims do, I don't have to spell it out for you. I don't know people like you see going to mosques and adhering to Islam as fanaticism. Being secular has nothing to do with, Turkey is a secular country but Islam is respected and given it's due accolades.

Islam is part of Nigeria before the British came, we can't stop practicing because the British handed us secularity. In case you don't know, secularism is accompanied with liberalism in a democracy and it seeks to accommodate different cultures and rights. Being secular doesn't mean we're an atheist republic.

Fanaticism simply total devotion,but acting irrationally and making utterances that is meant to divide the people is not okay and that is what muric stands for,turkey is a country with a smart population ,so that can't act like Nigeria.

BeansAndBread:
Firstly, Muslims migrate to other Muslim countries than western countries. I challenge you to disprove me with facts. Some Muslims moved to France, Britain and other Western countries after their home countries were destroyed by Christian colonialists and wars.

Secondly, stop all these emotional outbursts, we just asking for a simply thing. Don't set exams during our prayer times just as you won't set exams on Saturdays or Sundays.

Thirdly, there's nothing like Christian doctrines, when we hard Christian doctrines ruling the world, it was backwards and barbaric. People were killed because they translated the bible into English language. If you want that debate, I can give it to you but be rest assured you'll be humiliated.

Fourthly, those countries you listed were good countries before it was destroyed by the west. Can you imagine that the British invaded Afghanistan thrice? Although loosing the three wars, it had effects on the country till today despite happening more than 150 years ago, so cut the crap.

christian doctrines ruled the world and there was problems according to u, christians agreed to seperate religion from politics and there was peace and progress in christian countries and they are now secular. is that not something u should learn and study in order to grow ur muslim countries, instead u want to continue with what u called the past barbaric and backwardness of the christians by insisting that religion should be part of politics. religion should be private.
muslims move to christian countries because of war. the war has ended they can now go back and practice their religion so that they can make heaven. no need staying in an infidel country seeking asylum . for the sake of going to heaven they can stay in their countries no matter the hardship. heaven is the ultimate goal
the west destroyed everywhere: india,togo,ghana,senegal including igboland and niger delta, they were good enclaves on their own before the west joined us with u people, so u dont have have any moral right to fight against igbos for wanting to be on their own so that they wouldnt disturb ur religion. stop fighting igbos from going if truly u want islamic laws

talking about war and british invasions, remember that most of these muslim countries of today were once christian countries that was conquered by jihadist wars

the best bet for u people as of today is to seek for an islamic country that will allow u practice ur religion unhindered instead of co mixing with infidels whose ways will lead u to hell just like way the biafrans are doing ( though theirs is not for religion but for economic growth)
most muslim countries work on sundays. seek for ur own country so that this back and forth will stop.seek for ur own country . is this too much to ask.
you dont want to go and yet u dont want to stay in peace

BeansAndBread:
Who's forcing it on people? It's on Muslims, it involves how we live from the family, marriage, etc. it's for Muslims not Christians.

but u want others not to write their exams because u want to go and pray, that is tacit forcing
u can choose not to do the exams and seek to write only the papers which time table conforms with ur prayer pattern instead of disturbing others, afterall u are armed with ur islamic education which nobody is dragging it with u, so stop dragging our own with us

just imagine me coming to write sharia exams on sunday and forcing u to change ur time table to conform with my christian calendar of prayers if not i will start distrupting the exams. will u tolerate that? if i dont want to conform to ur dictates and write, i go my way, thats how to avoid trouble.
my advise is still that u get ur own country and teach ur citizens islamic studies and use it to grow ur new country and its economy and use it as a model why we should change our waec time table and why we should all be wearing hijab to school for more economic growth. thats a better way to go. yes showcase it to us countries where it has contributed immensely to their growth

bigfish3k:

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but u want others not to write their exams because u want to go and pray, that is tacit forcing
u can choose not to do the exams and seek to write only the papers which time table conforms with ur prayer pattern instead of disturbing others, afterall u are armed with ur islamic education which nobody is dragging it with u, so stop dragging our own with us

just imagine me coming to write sharia exams on sunday and forcing u to change ur time table to conform with my christian calendar of prayers if not i will start distrupting the exams. will u tolerate that? if i dont want to conform to ur dictates and write, i go my way, thats how to avoid trouble.
my advise is still that u get ur own country and teach ur citizens islamic studies and use it to grow ur new country and its economy and use it as a model why we should change our waec time table and why we should all be wearing hijab to school for more economic growth. thats a better way to go. yes showcase it to us countries where it has contributed immensely to their growth[/s]

Are you a fool or what? Does anyone set exams on Saturday or Sunday? And who's talking about shariah exams, what's the meaning of shariah exams sef? The problem with bigots like you is that you think the world was created for your bigoted yam heads, you're very intolerant.

The constitution clearly spelt it out that Muslims are to be accorded the respect of attending their Friday prayers, this is why Friday is legislated to be a half day. Saturday was similarly a half day but the seventh day Adventists pressured Yakubu Gowon who then adjusted it for them. Muslims remained, instead of your bigoted fish head to appreciate it, you still clamp on their rights by setting examinations on Friday by 1-3pm. You're very foolish to even criticize the hijab, when did Muslims every claim you wear hijab in the first place? People like you are so dumb that you can't think correctly again, the hijab is for Muslim women and Muslim women alone. It's not your fish head!

BeansAndBread:
Are you a fool or what? Does anyone set exams on Saturday or Sunday? And who's talking about shariah exams, what's the meaning of shariah exams sef? The problem with bigots like you is that you think the world was created for your bigoted yam heads, you're very intolerant.

The constitution clearly spelt it out that Muslims are to be accorded the respect of attending their Friday prayers, this is why Friday is legislated to be a half day. Saturday was similarly a half day but the seventh day Adventists pressured Yakubu Gowon who then adjusted it for them. Muslims remained, instead of your bigoted fish head to appreciate it, you still clamp on their rights by setting examinations on Friday by 1-3pm. You're very foolish to even criticize the hijab, when did Muslims every claim you wear hijab in the first place? People like you are so dumb that you can't think correctly again, the hijab is for Muslim women and Muslim women alone. It's not your fish head!

hmnm, sorry ooo
ur terrorist mode activated

we will appreciate u form ur own country so that u stay away from infidels. attachee by force and still be complaining is not not wise
u disturb with hijab, u disturb with fasting, u disturb with weekends, u disturb with exams... all these insignificant items
u see the rules and regulations of a school and their dress code, u sign and agree to abide by it . after getting in u start hijab wahala are u not the trouble maker here

but why are u all scared of forming an islamic country

bigfish3k:

christian doctrines ruled the world and there was problems according to u,

Not according to me but according to history. When Christianity ruled, all we had was bloodshed, I'm challenging you to disprove this.

christians agreed to seperate religion from politics and there was peace and progress in christian countries and they are now secular.

It was irreligious people that came out with secularism, secularism isn't a Christian concept as it fought against Christianity. Many countries in the west now are abandoning Christianity all thanks to secularism, churches older than 200 years are now converted into mosques. So don't claim secularism, it has destroyed Christianity and you're too blind to see it because you're a fish brain.

is that not something u should learn and study in order to grow ur muslim countries, instead u want to continue with what u called the past barbaric and backwardness of the christians by insisting that religion should be part of politics. religion should be private.

In case you don't as a fish brain, many Muslim adopted secularism. Many Christian countries killing themselves today are secular countries, so don't act as if you've accomplished something magnificent.

muslims move to christian countries because of war. the war has ended they can now go back and practice their religion so that they can make heaven. no need staying in an infidel country seeking asylum for the sake of going to heaven they can stay in their countries no matter the hardship. heaven is the ultimate goal

Christian colonialists moved into Muslim countries, took out their resources, enslaved the people, killed the people, joined unrelated peoples together which engulfed civil wars years later. You must be stupid for denying Muslims to move into the west which used their resources to build their lands. Lemme give you am history lesson, millions of Muslims fought for the allied powers during the World war and you expect their families not to move into the countries that killed their men. Fish brain na wetin you be!

the west destroyed everywhere: india,togo,ghana,senegal including igboland and niger delta, they were good enclaves on their own before the west joined us with u people, so u dont have have any moral right to fight against igbos for wanting to be on their own so that they wouldnt disturb ur religion. stop fighting igbos from going if truly u want islamic laws

Mumu yeebhoe people, when did I deny you from getting your "South Sudan soon to be Biafra"?

talking about war and british invasions, remember that most of these muslim countries of today were once christian countries that was conquered by jihadist wars

This is laughable because the most populous Muslim countries wasn't conquered by jihad and those Muslim countries that were formally Christian were also formally pagan but forced into Christianity by war. So if Christians conquered people by war, why can't Muslims do the same?

the best bet for u people as of today is to seek for an islamic country that will allow u practice ur religion unhindered instead of co mixing with infidels whose ways will lead u to hell just like way the biafrans are doing ( though theirs is not for religion but for economic growth)
most muslim countries work on sundays. seek for ur own country so that this back and forth will stop.seek for ur own country . is this too much to ask.
you dont want to go and yet u dont want to stay in peace

I'm a Yoruba man, my ancestors have been Muslims for more than 200 years and you want me to live my country? You're silly!!!

bigfish3k:


hmnm, sorry ooo
ur terrorist mode activated

we will appreciate u form ur own country so that u stay away from infidels. attachee by force and still be complaining is not not wise
u disturb with hijab, u disturb with fasting, u disturb with weekends, u disturb with exams... all these insignificant items
u see the rules and regulations of a school and their dress code, u sign and agree to abide by it . after getting in u start hijab wahala are u not the trouble maker here

but why are u all scared of forming an islamic country

Which dirty dressing code? Aren't government schools under the federal government? The constitution made it clear that Muslim women are allowed to wear their clothing, so why are you saying this rubbish? I don't need to form a country before my right ought to be granted. The West allows Muslim women and kids to wear hijab and even Niqab, Muslim women in those countries even wear hijab in the police force and this is the west we claim to follow while we hypocritically oppress others.

If my child goes to a public school, dem no born anybody papa well to pull hijab. If dem born you well, try am I go give you black eye. Try me and see

olas24u:

Fanaticism simply total devotion,but acting irrationally and making utterances that is meant to divide the people is not okay and that is what muric stands for,turkey is a country with a smart population ,so that can't act like Nigeria.

Islam forbids fanaticism as the prophet Muhammad forbade Muslims from being extremists. He said extremism is one of the things that destroyed previous generations, however, Islam was given attention in Nigeria. This is why Muslims till today practice the religion, you shouldn't view people who pray at the right time as extremists or fanatics. I'm sure you don't call Christians that preach in the midnight, buses and go to church everyday of the week as fanatics, why then call your fellow Muslims such?

BeansAndBread:
Islam forbids fanaticism as the prophet Muhammad forbade Muslims from being extremists. He said extremism is one of the things that destroyed previous generations, however, Islam was given attention in Nigeria. This is why Muslims till today practice the religion, you shouldn't view people who pray at the right time as extremists or fanatics. I'm sure you don't call Christians that preach in the midnight, buses and go to church everyday of the week as fanatics, why then call your fellow Muslims such?

Did you read what I posted?you must respect other peoples religious beliefs in a secular country,you cannot be making utterances that will affect the co-esistance of people with different believes.i have mention India,I have mentioned turkey,Syria,singapore, Malaysia,but you are not accepting the argument because you are rigid.i respect other people,s believes and I have friends that's are Hindus,buddiest,Shintoist,and i respect their believes and I don't make statements that could affect the friendship.its same in nigeria.muric just wakes up and makes a statement and you wonder if these people are normal,in a fragile country like Nigeria .

olas24u:

Did you read what I posted?you must respect other peoples religious beliefs in a secular country,you cannot be making utterances that will affect the co-esistance of people with different believes.i have mention India,I have mentioned turkey,Syria,singapore, Malaysia,but you are not accepting the argument because you are rigid.i respect other people,s believes and I have friends that's are Hindus,buddiest,Shintoist,and i respect their believes and I don't make statements that could affect the friendship.its same in nigeria.muric just wakes up and makes a statement and you wonder if these people are normal,in a fragile country like Nigeria .

Ok, I get your point. I'm not against Christians or traditionalists activities, Islam has no problem with it. But what you aren't understanding is that many Christians don't reciprocate this same kindness to Muslims, why on earth would you set exams on a Friday (1-3pm) during jumaat? Even Muslim universities like Al Hikmah respect Christian students and that tolerance that Islam preaches. The above countries you mentioned, if you've ever visited them, you'll know that they accord rights to all the peoples including Muslims. You won't find them setting examinations during Jumaat service.

And as a Muslim, you're not even criticizing WAEC for setting the exams, your posts from the beginning shows that. I myself don't support muric, but they're right on this one. Yoruba Muslims have coexisted for 100s of years peacefully, even when their rights are violated they go to the courts and this is what they continue to do but they're termed extremists. And people like you don't help matters, you don't look at issues critically, you just want people to hail you as a progressive while they oppress your people. How's that fair? And this isn't about any fragility, Christians have Saturday and Sunday for worship while Muslim manage Friday, yet some people still want to take away the few hours we have and you see nothing wrong in that?

This is so annoying

BeansAndBread:


Not according to me but according to history. When Christianity ruled, all we had was bloodshed, I'm challenging you to disprove this.



It was irreligious people that came out with secularism, secularism isn't a Christian concept as it fought against Christianity. Many countries in the west now are abandoning Christianity all thanks to secularism, churches older than 200 years are now converted into mosques. So don't claim secularism, it has destroyed Christianity and you're too blind to see it because you're a fish brain.



In case you don't as a fish brain, many Muslim adopted secularism. Many Christian countries killing themselves today are secular countries, so don't act as if you've accomplished something magnificent.



Christian colonialists moved into Muslim countries, took out their resources, enslaved the people, killed the people, joined unrelated peoples together which engulfed civil wars years later. You must be stupid for denying Muslims to move into the west which used their resources to build their lands. Lemme give you am history lesson, millions of Muslims fought for the allied powers during the World war and you expect their families not to move into the countries that killed their men. Fish brain na wetin you be!



Mumu yeebhoe people, when did I deny you from getting your "South Sudan soon to be Biafra"?



This is laughable because the most populous Muslim countries wasn't conquered by jihad and those Muslim countries that were formally Christian were also formally pagan but forced into Christianity by war. So if Christians conquered people by war, why can't Muslims do the same?



I'm a Yoruba man, my ancestors have been Muslims for more than 200 years and you want me to live my country? You're silly!!!

you dont want to leave ur country , but u said that the british joined people of different ideologies and races together which caused civil wars. is it not better to seperate urself from infidels which ur religion approves instead of impending bloodshed that ur request will soon bring. this is even the more reason why we should seperate having realised our different religion, cultures, beliefs etc. 200yrs ago when ur fore fathers became muslims there was no country called nigeria, therefore u can leave nigeria

ur tribe the yorubas sacrificed a lot of her sons and daughters in the battle front in 1967 so that we the "infidels" remain with u, so u are stopping us. all of u mentioning south sudan as a reason why we "infidels" should remain with u, have u not heard of croatia, east timor, macedonia, eritrea that divided and are in peace within themselves. i even thought that u religious bigots should even be the ones pushing to seperate urselves from infidels instead the other way round

so if somebody removes ur child hijab , u will fight which can lead to tribal and religious war, because of our differences, u see the more reason why we should seperate, because it will be an unending war. after ur generation ur children will still carry on with the fight. so instaed of this continous generational fight, lets seperate. hope u know that Niger republic , a predominantly muslim country banned hijab because it was been used as a very good cover to carry out suicide bombings. stop fighting for God, he doesnt need it

we care less about religion whether christianity is dying or not , we didnt create christianity, we cant fight for it, the originator of christianity knows how to keep it afloat, its beyond us. stop fighting for God

pagans were conquered to become christians, and they were later conquered to become muslims and british later conquered them to become democracies. so u see that all are guilty including muslims. why were u then complaining that british invaded afghanistan. we are all guilty there should be no complain

all of u saying that the west used ur resources to build themselves are not serious, which resources are u even talking about. without the west coming in, did u even know the value of such resources?
btw the west have given u all independence, go and use the same resource to develop ur places. but u wouldnt. u prefer running to the west.
am advising that u stop going to the west so that u can make heaven because most people there wear bikini.
heaven and hijab is better than any economic gain u want to make in the west.

when christianity ruled, there was bloodshed, they realised themselves and apologised for those atrocities .
are u muslims expected to use that as an excuse to continue in the bloodshed? if not why are u people doing suicide bombings and when we complain u lots start mentioning how adolf hitler killed many , how there was bloodshed when christian ruled, u lots start and shamelessly start mentioning things/atrocities that happened more than 300yrs ago as ur excuse. the people that did those things have apologised and moved ahead with peaceful nature
u that is calling me fish brain. do u know that ur religion has produced the greatest numbers of people with the lowest I.Q in the world, if not u wouldnt be doing suicide bombings and jihad in this 21st century

BeansAndBread:


You're inherently stupid for this statement.

You bovine antediluvian recidivist, please do not dare look me in the eye for the fire therefrom shall scald you to the bones.

Since when is a secular country required thump upon the rights of it's citizens despite granting them freedom of worship which is clearly spelt out in the constitution? The problem with dummies like you is that, you think secularism is an authoritarian system where rights aren't respected. In a democracy which is accompanied by secularism and liberalism, all religions are respected. Stop displaying ignorance!

You are the only ignorant one here - because I see no reason why you conflate freedom of religion with the right to impose your worship time on any period of time picked during a working week day for the secular activities of a secular institution.

The truth is that Muslims are used to this oevr arching imposition of their views and conveniences on everyone else and its frankly nauseating. This is the very same reason this very forum has to restrict commentary on Muslim threads when that is done for no other religion. Kindly wake up and stop speaking through your rectum: Friday is a work week day in Nigeria, Live with it.

Saturday was a half day during the colonial era and Sunday was the only full day at the weekend. However, Saturday was made a full day to favour the Seventh Day Adventists, during the regime Yakubu Gowon while Friday remained a half-day. Now Muslims aren't complaining, but why still thump on that by setting an exam by the time they're to be the mosque? Asin, this doesn't even happen in the west we claim to emulate.

This is nothing but pure illusion, and leads me to suspect that you are a patient in a psychiatric institution. Are you suggesting that all over the world, in countries where Saturday is a non work day, this is in global deference to seventh day adventists? Once again, are you drunk? Please do put away that burukutu which causes you to come across as a being conceived from the sweat of the balls of an orangutan.

Dummy, all work places in Nigeria reserve the 12pm-2pm for Muslim worshippers. Don't be foooolish!

I have worked in multinationals for over twenty years in Nigeria and I can assure you there is no such nonsense as this anywhere. It is a pity you have been limited to the Local Government Offices in Damaturu or Jalingo. This is doubtless the reason for your mistaken apprehension of things.

GrayBeard:


You bovine antediluvian recidivist, please do not dare look me in the eye for the fire therefrom shall scald you to the bones

**scoffs** You wish!!!

You are the only ignorant one here - because I see no reason why you conflate freedom of religion with the right to impose your worship time on any period of time picked during a working week day for the secular activities of a secular institution.

Does secularism in anyway deny or oppress people? No, the so called secular is subjected to the laws and constitution of the federal republic of nigeria. If the exams was let's say, IELTS, this is an exam the British can set any time but not WAEC. Ever wondered why students don't write WAEC examinations during the weekend but you write IELTS on Saturdays, a weekend and worship day of some Christians. SO with your big big grammar, you ought to know WAEC is like a federal exam and it can't hold during prayer times unlike IELTS.

The truth is that Muslims are used to this oevr arching imposition of their views and conveniences on everyone else and its frankly nauseating. This is the very same reason this very forum has to restrict commentary on Muslim threads when that is done for no other religion. Kindly wake up and stop speaking through your rectum: Friday is a work week day in Nigeria, Live with it.

Actually, when the British left Nigeria, Friday and Saturday were workdays, but the Seventh Day Adventists pressured Yakubu Gowon to declare it a weekend. Muslims didn't demand such, asking for our rights isn't imposition. When we ask for Hijab, it's for our head not yours. You need to be tolerant and accept people for who they're, and in case you don't know why Muslims have a separate section. Muslims on nairaland never requested for it, rather it was the owner of the forum who deemed it fit to restrict Muslims into that section because of the way Christians like you abuse Muslims from morning till night. There are some threads Muslims talk about marriage, history, etc but then Christians come in and derail it. Some call Muslims unprintable names, some even wish for genocide on Muslims. So my question to you and you bigoted cohorts, why can't you people be tolerant?

This is nothing but pure illusion, and leads me to suspect that you are a patient in a psychiatric institution. Are you suggesting that all over the world, in countries where Saturday is a non work day, this is in global deference to seventh day adventists? Once again, are you drunk? Please do put away that burukutu which causes you to come across as a being conceived from the sweat of the balls of an orangutan.

Of course, I can't expect any reasonable contribution from a numb head like you. Your head is full of air, no brains. So with all your demo, you didn't know Saturday was once a half day like Friday in nigeria?

I have worked in multinationals for over twenty years in Nigeria and I can assure you there is no such nonsense as this anywhere. It is a pity you have been limited to the Local Government Offices in Damaturu or Jalingo. This is doubtless the reason for your mistaken apprehension of things.

Bla bla bla bla, and where I've worked, there's that reservation. Even in the West, some employers even go further and give you time for your noon prayers.

bigfish3k:


you dont want to leave ur country , but u said that the british joined people of different ideologies and races together which caused civil wars. is it not better to seperate urself from infidels which ur religion approves instead of impending bloodshed that ur request will soon bring. this is even the more reason why we should seperate having realised our different religion, cultures, beliefs etc. 200yrs ago when ur fore fathers became muslims there was no country called nigeria, therefore u can leave nigeria

You don't have sense guy Nigeria isn't the only country British colonized. They colonized the Indian and when they left, the country broke into different parts and what followed was massive killings, close to 15 million people were killed during the partition of India. Another example is Nigeria, when the British left, due to the incompatibility of the people, there was a civil war which killed close to 3 million people.

And because there was no country like nigeria 200 years ago doesn't mean we weren't on ground, in 20 years time, Nigeria might not exist but that doesn't mean the people, place or culture never existed or popped out from nowhere. Gerrit!?

ur tribe the yorubas sacrificed a lot of her sons and daughters in the battle front in 1967 so that we the "infidels" remain with u, so u are stopping us. all of u mentioning south sudan as a reason why we "infidels" should remain with u, have u not heard of croatia, east timor, macedonia, eritrea that divided and are in peace within themselves. i even thought that u religious bigots should even be the ones pushing to seperate urselves from infidels instead the other way round

Believe me, I really want you guys to leave. No doubt however, Biafra would be worse that South Sudan. It's not a curse, it's a fact.

so if somebody removes ur child hijab , u will fight which can lead to tribal and religious war, because of our differences, u see the more reason why we should seperate, because it will be an unending war. after ur generation ur children will still carry on with the fight. so instaed of this continous generational fight, lets seperate. hope u know that Niger republic , a predominantly muslim country banned hijab because it was been used as a very good cover to carry out suicide bombings. stop fighting for God, he doesnt need it

Why would you remove my child's hijab if not for trouble you're looking for? And by the way, it was southern Niger that banned hijab due to Boko Haram and what they banned was similar to "Chador" not the normal types we wear in nigeria.

we care less about religion whether christianity is dying or not , we didnt create christianity, we cant fight for it, the originator of christianity knows how to keep it afloat, its beyond us. stop fighting for God

But the guy that killed 50 Muslims in the mosque would disagree with you. And if you don't care about Christianity, why were you claiming good about Christianity in the first place?

pagans were conquered to become christians, and they were later conquered to become muslims and british later conquered them to become democracies. so u see that all are guilty including muslims. why were u then complaining that british invaded afghanistan. we are all guilty there should be no complain

I didn't complain at all, you were the one complaining not me. So this advice is for you not me. And as for Afghanistan, the British invaded the country thrice, Afghanistan was never a Christian country so the British had no rights to invade. And to burst your bubble, the British were defeated in all three wars, it was so bad for the British that many were taken as slaves.

all of u saying that the west used ur resources to build themselves are not serious, which resources are u even talking about. without the west coming in, did u even know the value of such resources?

You don't have sense, so you support exploiting people for resources? Do you know how many Algerians died at the hands of the French? Did you know how many Iraqis and Afghans have died since the war on terror?

btw the west have given u all independence, go and use the same resource to develop ur places. but u wouldnt. u prefer running to the west.

People like you are the reasons why they rate the black race as dullards. These people came into lands not theirs killing thousands and even millions, when wars broke out between the Europeans they took men for this countries to fight for them killing thousands. After the war, this same Europeans still invited this same people into their own countries to help rebuild it as per cheap labour. Why do you think France has many Muslims? It was because after the 2nd world war, the French told people from their colonies (who are mostly Muslims) to come into France to help build the country. The same is with Britain when they invited Indians, Pakistanis, etc into the countries after the war to help build it up, you honestly think these people would go back after building with their sweat?

And in case you don't know, Muslims actually prefer Muslim countries than the west and I can back it up with evidence if you want.

am advising that u stop going to the west so that u can make heaven because most people there wear bikini.
heaven and hijab is better than any economic gain u want to make in the west.

Mumu, you don't wear bikinis all around the West. That's public indecency and you can arrested for it, and you Christians stop flocking into Muslim countries like Malaysia, UAE and Qatar.

when christianity ruled, there was bloodshed, they realised themselves and apologised for those atrocities

Thanks for admitting there was bloodshed and who did they apologize to exactly? Can you show us such apologies?

are u muslims expected to use that as an excuse to continue in the bloodshed?

Don't be emotional, bloodshed occurs around the world and it's well perpetuated by you Christians. So don't act so smart.

if not why are u people doing suicide bombings and when we complain u lots start mentioning how adolf hitler killed many , how there was bloodshed when christian ruled, u lots start and shamelessly start mentioning things/atrocities that happened more than 300yrs ago as ur excuse. the people that did those things have apologised and moved ahead with peaceful nature

Firstly, Islam is the only religion in the world that prohibits suicide, Muslim scholars from the onset have prohibited suicide bombings. Anyone who suicide bombs is going to hell fire according Quran and Hadith but the bible on the other doesn't prohibit suicide. In fact, suicide is praised in the bible as Samson committed suicide to kill his enemies, something modern terrorist groups like Boko Haram have taken a cue from.

And Christian killings happened even till this generation, in Ireland, Catholics and Protestants (Pentecostal) kill each other. Joseph Kony wanted to establish a Christian state based on the 10 commandments ended up leading 100,000 people to their deaths. The jos crisis was a conflict in which both Christians and Muslims killed each indiscriminately, the deaths reached 50,000. So spare me the bullshit about Christians being peaceful. George Bush jnr claimed the invasion of Iraq was a crusade, hope you know the meaning of crusades? This is a war taken on behalf of the cross or Christ and this war has led to the deaths of close to a million. If anyone is looking animals and terrorists, it's you Christians. You people are hypocritical, terrorist groups like Al Qaeda, ISIS, Boko Haram, Al Shabab, Abu Sayyaf, etc dey learn work for where una dey I swear to God!

u that is calling me fish brain. do u know that ur religion has produced the greatest numbers of people with the lowest I.Q in the world, if not u wouldnt be doing suicide bombings and jihad in this 21st century

Muslims with the lowest IQs? Are you kidding me? Have you heard about the Islamic Golden Age? Go and read about it, you'll see you still benefit from it till date. And I don't believe in suicide bombings, I'm better than you because your bible actually supports suicide bombing remember Samson.