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Re: 2023: Why Yoruba Will Produce President After Buhari – Clarke by dondada78(m): 1:22pm On May 25, 2019 |
TemmyT002: Was zik a leader? Ojukwu is respected even more than the man, zik. |
Re: 2023: Why Yoruba Will Produce President After Buhari – Clarke by dondada78(m): 1:27pm On May 25, 2019 |
johntolu: Abeg comot kanu. Na Yahoo Yahoo that one dey do |
Re: 2023: Why Yoruba Will Produce President After Buhari – Clarke by discusant: 1:28pm On May 25, 2019 |
Muguish lawyer, do you know that APC can't survive after Buhari? |
Re: 2023: Why Yoruba Will Produce President After Buhari – Clarke by 9gerian: 1:28pm On May 25, 2019 |
But the bolded is what has been happening since independence. However, the Yorubas have never castigated / maligned the Igbos for their choice. Fast forward to 2015, and the Igbos have used every opportunity to insult and malign the Yorubas without end. They even ensured that Peter Obi’s candidature was quickly painted as a tribal rivalry against the Yoruba Vice President, a very unwise move it turned out. The Yorubas were the ones who fought tenaciously for Jonathan to be installed as acting president, with Obasanjo rallying support for him in the North, hence the votes he got there. The Yorubas also gave Jonathan their votes without much solicitation during 2011 presidential elections. The question is why do Igbos think they can partner with the North politically without end, but would not allow anyone to rest maligning and calling Yorubas names because they eventually partnered with the North (for the very first time in history)? It defies logic It is hoped that this string of events allows everyone to reflect on past mistakes (including those of our leaders past) and begin to strive for equity, and not just when it affects you. This is what a nation needs to harness its diverse potentials. These potentials are everywhere all over the length and breadth of Nigeria. Btw, I think the Igbos may stand a good chance at producing the next president, but that is if they retrace their steps and start building bridges instead of attacking everybody (including their people that reason differently). Interestingly, Obasanjo was the first to suggest that Igbos prepared to be President by 2019 at the height of Buhari’s absence in 2017 or so; Obasanjo was abused and even cursed by the same people (Igbos) that he was envisaging to help broker an equitable deal. Sighs kaen1317: 6 Likes 2 Shares
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Re: 2023: Why Yoruba Will Produce President After Buhari – Clarke by discusant: 1:31pm On May 25, 2019 |
oilPUSSY: In 2003, Yoruba wholly owned and supported Obasanjo. That lawyer is a Liar. By the way, ask for restructured Nigeria, northern Nigeria that monopolizes leadership of Nigeria is worse off. 1 Like |
Re: 2023: Why Yoruba Will Produce President After Buhari – Clarke by Honor10: 1:35pm On May 25, 2019 |
SarkinYarki: how many time would will sound to ur ear that "to hell with u and ur 5% votes" stop threatening with 5% votes now. haba! 4 Likes |
Re: 2023: Why Yoruba Will Produce President After Buhari – Clarke by IvarTheTerrible: 2:04pm On May 25, 2019 |
richie240: oilPUSSY already knows this, the savagery of my knockout just made HIM make a foolish point. I had already won, HE and his fellow yeebows just wanted to salvage their crushed psyche. It was a foolish yeebow that created that post 2 Likes |
Re: 2023: Why Yoruba Will Produce President After Buhari – Clarke by IMMUNO1(m): 2:10pm On May 25, 2019 |
You have said your own, but time will have the final say. |
Re: 2023: Why Yoruba Will Produce President After Buhari – Clarke by kufekpo(m): 2:22pm On May 25, 2019 |
Danjunior: Yes, you are on point. The East and South - South region is not likely to support the Yoruba in 2023. Instead, I am forseening a collabo with the North that will prevent the Yoruba to take over power. The North will definitely jump at the offer so that they will remain in power. This is how the game is going to play out. |
Re: 2023: Why Yoruba Will Produce President After Buhari – Clarke by PFRB: 2:30pm On May 25, 2019 |
When you dare the Igbos you pay for it. Try and see. |
Re: 2023: Why Yoruba Will Produce President After Buhari – Clarke by leokid866: 2:32pm On May 25, 2019 |
OGHENAOGIE: No-one is saying it's going to be easy, and if an Igbo candidate with national appeal appears, let him present himself if he makes sense sure I will personally vote for him. Till then we welcome all contenders, they should not just keep in mind that we are going to slack either. 1 Like |
Re: 2023: Why Yoruba Will Produce President After Buhari – Clarke by leokid866: 2:36pm On May 25, 2019 |
9gerian: This is someone with Sense. 3 Likes |
Re: 2023: Why Yoruba Will Produce President After Buhari – Clarke by Surebet79622: 2:41pm On May 25, 2019 |
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Re: 2023: Why Yoruba Will Produce President After Buhari – Clarke by teufelein(f): 2:41pm On May 25, 2019 |
The most unfortunate aspect is that they learned nothing from the last tragicomedy outing. Instead of mobilising for renegotiation of the existence of Nigeria, they are forming more political parties, going on pilgrimage to the palaces of emirs for endorsement and generally preparing for another charade in 2023. To #think is a luxury they can ill afford. |
Re: 2023: Why Yoruba Will Produce President After Buhari – Clarke by googi: 2:42pm On May 25, 2019 |
Igbo are too obsessed with retributive politics. They love Israel's enemy of my enemy is my friend. Unfortunately, Yoruba children will not have any of the empathy their fathers share with Igbo. Those days are gone. Igbo hijacked the Government of Ebele Azikiwe as if they owned it. Fine, they owned every powerful position in his Government. They stole so recklessly because they were ready to retributively finish Nigeria. They convinced Ebele that he had no friends but Igbo. No stake in Nigeria. The Patriotic Igbo have no weight or say. Right now, even South-south have regrets. If Igbo could run Ebele Govt. audaciously, can you imagine what Igbo Government would be like? Nigeria will hardly survive. No part of Nigeria dey trust Igbo again. They are too vegeanceful against only Yoruba their best friends in Nigeria but no ethnic group trust them. Even if Igbo separate, nobody cares anymore, they will come back and invade Nigeria the way they invaded the Mid-West. Solution - new group of Igbo leaders willing to work with others as Pa Clark said. Oil pussy, my dear. How you dey 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: 2023: Why Yoruba Will Produce President After Buhari – Clarke by Deo1986(m): 2:51pm On May 25, 2019 |
For those trying to predict the outcome of 2023 elections; Apc may implode on itself because of the many conflicting interests, El rufai, Tinubu, Amaechi and Rochas are huge titans with ulterior motives. Pdp may not zone power to the north in 2023, as Saraki, Wike and Ekweremadu may want to take a shot at the presidency, these may likely lead to the disintergration of Pdp. A lot of drama will unfold before the next general elections until a very patient dog snatches the bone. Thoughñ i believe wise Buhari has another agenda up his cap. |
Re: 2023: Why Yoruba Will Produce President After Buhari – Clarke by Nobody: 2:53pm On May 25, 2019 |
IvarTheTerrible: You're something else 3 Likes |
Re: 2023: Why Yoruba Will Produce President After Buhari – Clarke by leokid866: 2:57pm On May 25, 2019 |
dondada78: You mean Ojukwu? You mean an educated man who knew what power structures to hold to get what you want from day to day, but instead decided to go to war, dragged all of us through a traumatic experience both emotionally and financially, cost us all a lot In human capital, lost the war, fled and left Nigerians be they from the North,South,west,or east bearing the cost of it all. The man who knew the eronius cost of a war but still went ahead to declare a sovereign nation within an already specified and recognised border. The man who refused to think about the future of his people and Nigeria as a whole. That is the man you want to raise your cap for? WOW. Zik might have been cut down in his prime but he didn't start no wars and was a forward thinking Man. 1 Like |
Re: 2023: Why Yoruba Will Produce President After Buhari – Clarke by genesishouse: 3:18pm On May 25, 2019 |
We shall give you an answer by 2023. Keep burning the votes. quote author=olajizz01 post=78704010]Morufu from the yeast,keep deceiving yourself.[/quote] |
Re: 2023: Why Yoruba Will Produce President After Buhari – Clarke by genesishouse: 3:20pm On May 25, 2019 |
quote author=olajizz01 post=78704010]Morufu from the yeast,keep deceiving yourself.[/quote] We shall give you an answer by 2023. Keep burning the ballot boxes it won't be forever. |
Re: 2023: Why Yoruba Will Produce President After Buhari – Clarke by gidgiddy: 3:30pm On May 25, 2019 |
leokid866: That's how you may see it but most Igbos see it a much different way. Ojukwu fought for the liberation and freedom of the Igbo nation and that alone means far more to Igbos than anything obtainable inside Nigeria When you understand that, you will understand why most Igbos revere Ojukwu |
Re: 2023: Why Yoruba Will Produce President After Buhari – Clarke by Odingo1: 4:20pm On May 25, 2019 |
9gerian: Stop lying, Yoruba didn’t vote for Jonathan or Obasanjo. Clark is talking about vote margin.Stop deceiving yourself, tell us how many number of casted vote that Obasanjo and Jonathan got in the SW, PDP may won slightly in each Yoruba state but with what number to the other party. PDP can get 250,000 vote in Ondo while APC got 240,000 vote in the same Ondo, although PDP won,will you say that Yorubas in Ondo gave PDP their vote or they shared their vote. By what margin did Jonathan won in South West, stop twisting history. Had it been that Atiku won Buhari, you Yorubas will be shouting how you voted for Atiku. Yoruba always associate with a winning side with a divided vote. What is margin of Jonathan win in the SW against Tinubu Ribadu Yoruba support. 2 Likes |
Re: 2023: Why Yoruba Will Produce President After Buhari – Clarke by leokid866: 4:32pm On May 25, 2019 |
gidgiddy: You speak of fighting for freedom like we held you daily with chains and at gun point. And stop generalizing it, a lot of igbo people cursed him after the war. What freedom was he fighting for that it led to carrying gun. He was the richest amongst his people and a general to booth. They whined him to go to war cause you felt you were oppressed and stupid him fell for it. Igbos were and have been the most prosperous people before and after independence, if you had played your cards right you could have been the most prosperous part of nigeria and maybe even try your own brexit now. But what did you do with all your blessings and gifts? You cried injustice picked up the gun went to war and threw it all away. And instead of you to cast away the name ojukwu the man who led you all down your current path, here you are saying he deserves respect. What stupid respect. 3 Likes |
Re: 2023: Why Yoruba Will Produce President After Buhari – Clarke by Odingo1: 4:45pm On May 25, 2019 |
TABLE 1: NIGERIA’S 2011 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION (APRIL 16) RESULTS BY GEOPOLITICAL ZONES STATE PDP CPC ACN Voter Turnout Jonathan Buhari Ribadu GEO-POLITICAL SUMMARIES SOUTH-WEST 2,786,417 321,609 1,369,943 INEC Results: http://www.inecnigeria.org/?page_id=31 (link updated, March 2015; formerly: ) 2011 Election SW PDP=2,786,417 SW ACN=1,369,943 How did Yorubas voted for Jonathan in 2011 1 Like |
Re: 2023: Why Yoruba Will Produce President After Buhari – Clarke by richie240: 4:50pm On May 25, 2019 |
Manshoesq:yes o.....prolly after they finish insulting d living daylights out of them. Laffing in Swahili |
Re: 2023: Why Yoruba Will Produce President After Buhari – Clarke by AFONJACOW(m): 5:00pm On May 25, 2019 |
that does not stop Igbo's from buying choice properties in Yoruba and Hausa land |
Re: 2023: Why Yoruba Will Produce President After Buhari – Clarke by richie240: 5:16pm On May 25, 2019 |
9gerian:Truly, all things being equal, had d igbos handled d 2010-2015 GEJ era with a broad mind, 2019 should have bn theirs. How? They should have allowed d north to 'complete' yaradua's second term (whiich wouldve elapse in 2019) instead of edging gej to break d PDP's rotational presidency gentleman agreement. The sw had just finished an 8th year 2 terms presidency (1999-2007) courtesy OBJ and so were in no rush to jostle for d position again. Moreover, being liberal and politically accomodatting, they would have supported/voted the se come 2019 all things being equal. we all remembered how they fought 4 gej in 2010 and voted enmasse 4 him in 2011. But, just as u have outlined, d se hijacked the gej govt, thereby turning d largest political party in Africa to a regional party in nigeria. Anybody dt spoke up against d govt. (justified or not) was seen as anti-igbo. Their case was not helped by d inputs of KANU and his minions, which put the final nail to their political coffin.
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Re: 2023: Why Yoruba Will Produce President After Buhari – Clarke by duncun: 5:24pm On May 25, 2019 |
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Re: 2023: Why Yoruba Will Produce President After Buhari – Clarke by 9gerian: 5:28pm On May 25, 2019 |
But the data you presented below demonstrates clearly how the Yorubas voted for Jonathan. Odingo1: 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: 2023: Why Yoruba Will Produce President After Buhari – Clarke by gidgiddy: 5:39pm On May 25, 2019 |
leokid866: You are a product of the fact that Nigerian history is not taught in schools. If the history of the war had been taught, you would realise how wrong you are. There have been waves of massacre of Igbos in Nigeria such as the the Jos massacre of 1945 and the Kano killings of 1953 where hundreds of Igbos were butchered in cold blood by Northerners. It did not end there, in 1966 alone, over 50,000 Igbo men, women and children were massacred all over Nigeria, mainly in the North. As more and more Igbos were being killed, many Igbos ran to Ojukwu who was then Military Governor of the Eastern Region and they asked him to pull the Eastern Region out of Nigeria since the Government of Nigeria was doing nothing to stop the killings. Ojukwu refused and told Igbos to remain patient. As the call to secede from Nigeria grew, and as millions of Igbos ran back to Eastern Nigeria, Ojukwu risked his life to travel to Ghana and have a meeting with Gowon to keep Nigeria one. After two days of meeting, Ojukwu and Gowon reached an agreement and signed this agreement in front of then the President of Ghana, General Ankrah. When Ojukwu returned to the Eastern Region he showed Igbos the agreement signed in Ghana that would usher in peace and keep Nigeria as one. As a gesture of good will, Ojukwu asked Igbos who had ran back home, to return to the North since the dispute had been settled. Ojukwu even personally escorted some of them to the boarder between the Eastern Region and the North. Do you know what happened next? Another wave of massacre occurred and those that returned to the North were massacred in greater numbers. The final straw was when Gowon broke the agreement he signed in Ghana with Ojukwu It was then that the scales fell from Ojukwu's eyes and he realized that there was nothing like 'one Nigeria'. It was then that Ojukwu realised that what the North wanted was the political domination of everyone in Nigeria. In the face of continued massacre of Igbos and the breaking of the peace agreement, Ojukwu did what any sane person would have done, he asked all Igbos to return home and declared their independence. I dont know if you expected Ojukwu to fold his his arms and watch as his people are murdered and turned into slaves without a fight? After Ojukwu declared Biafra, Gowon declared war on Biafra and sent Soldiers to the East where Igbos were enjoying their new country, to fight. Ojukwu fought against all odds for three years to maintain the independence of his people, and when he could no longer continue, he left and the war ended. If there is anybody to be blamed for the war, it is Gowon who refused to keep to the agreement he signed. The truth about it all is that Ojukwu did everything he could to avert war and keep Nigeria one, but the North made it impossible. When Ojukwu died, he was given the greatest burial ever seen in Igbo land because the vast majority of us Igbos know that he fought for our liberation and independence That's why the federal government does not want to teach the history of the war, doing so would expose the ugly truth that the Northerners led by Gowon caused the war in their quest to dominate Nigeria |
Re: 2023: Why Yoruba Will Produce President After Buhari – Clarke by leokid866: 6:00pm On May 25, 2019 |
gidgiddy: Oga keep quite, forget teaching history in class we have Google we teaching our young ones ourselves, yes the Igbo were oppressed but was it only you, you think the yorubas were not feeling it. With all the war where did it lead? Nigeria is still here, power has moved from the North and gone around nigeria since then. He lacked patience. A quality every leader must have. Forget how he was buried as far as I and most Nigerians are concerned he failed us all. The Isrealites you all claim to be like had patience and intelligence ojukwu lacked both which he knew but still decided to go to war. The political structure of a country is not all a country is. I feel bad for everything that happened to the Igbos but he could have handled the situation better. He wanted to protest the loss of a thousand people and threw a million people under the bus to do it. I lost relatives to that war Father's, Mothers Cousins just so ojukwu could run away in the end and was not even bold enough to stand and die on the soil handed to him by his father. The north you all went against are they not the ones killing themselves now without any help. He wanted quick and fast action forgetting victory is to the patient. He just wasted 3 years and the blood of millions of Nigerians for nothing. 1 Like |
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