9gerian:
But the data you presented below demonstrates clearly how the Yorubas voted for Jonathan.

You are not getting the point, visit the Inec link, Igbos gave Jonathan more than 5 million block vote.

Yoruba shared their vote and did not clearly vote for Jonathan.

South West vote for Jonathan PDP =2,786,417
South West vote Tinubu Ribadu ACN=1,369,943

difference= 1,416,474, ACN almost got half of what Jonathan has in South West, so how did SW vote for Jonathan in 2011 .

You shared your vote into two and be shouting that you voted for that person. Had it been that Ribadu won you will start shouting how you supported him to win, sitting on the fence and be waiting for the winner to emerge so that you will dive to the winning direction.

Well written.

I did not see where YORUBA caused your problem in there. Yoruba gave Ojukwu hero's welcome in Lagos.

Ojukwu came back and joined NPN parading himself as the "beautiful bride" (courtesy Zik) all over the North to Emirs. All is forgiven, abi?

But he lost his election in his home as a Senator to unknown. Later embraced Abacha as his roving diplomat all over the world.

If you hate the North so much, Scorpion Adekunle gave Ojukwu Army arms and ammunition to cross over to the North and fight their enemies.

Oti o! They cross over to rape the Mid-West.

Yet, this Yoruba na your enemies. The only place you got all your properties back after the War. No even Port Harcourt gave you your properties back.

Look, I taya for una.

gidgiddy:


You are a product of the fact that Nigerian history is not taught in schools. If the history of the war had been taught, you would realise how wrong you are.

There have been waves of massacre of Igbos in Nigeria such as the the Jos massacre of 1945 and the Kano killings of 1953 where hundreds of Igbos were butchered in cold blood by Northerners. It did not end there, in 1966 alone, over 50,000 Igbo men, women and children were massacred all over Nigeria, mainly in the North. As more and more Igbos were being killed, many Igbos ran to Ojukwu who was then Military Governor of the Eastern Region and they asked him to pull the Eastern Region out of Nigeria since the Government of Nigeria was doing nothing to stop the killings. Ojukwu refused and told Igbos to remain patient. As the call to secede from Nigeria grew, and as millions of Igbos ran back to Eastern Nigeria, Ojukwu risked his life to travel to Ghana and have a meeting with Gowon to keep Nigeria one. After two days of meeting, Ojukwu and Gowon reached an agreement and signed this agreement in front of then the President of Ghana, General Ankrah.


When Ojukwu returned to the Eastern Region he showed Igbos the agreement signed in Ghana that would usher in peace and keep Nigeria as one. As a gesture of good will, Ojukwu asked Igbos who had ran back home, to return to the North since the dispute had been settled. Ojukwu even personally escorted some of them to the boarder between the Eastern Region and the North. Do you know what happened next? Another wave of massacre occurred and those that returned to the North were massacred in greater numbers. The final straw was when Gowon broke the agreement he signed in Ghana with Ojukwu

It was then that the scales fell from Ojukwu's eyes and he realized that there was nothing like 'one Nigeria'. It was then that Ojukwu realised that what the North wanted was the political domination of everyone in Nigeria.

In the face of continued massacre of Igbos and the breaking of the peace agreement, Ojukwu did what any sane person would have done, he asked all Igbos to return home and declared their independence. I dont know if you expected Ojukwu to fold his his arms and watch as his people are murdered and turned into slaves without a fight?

After Ojukwu declared Biafra, Gowon declared war on Biafra and sent Soldiers to the East where Igbos were enjoying their new country, to fight. Ojukwu fought against all odds for three years to maintain the independence of his people, and when he could no longer continue, he left and the war ended.

If there is anybody to be blamed for the war, it is Gowon who refused to keep to the agreement he signed.

The truth about it all is that Ojukwu did everything he could to avert war and keep Nigeria one, but the North made it impossible.


When Ojukwu died, he was given the greatest burial ever seen in Igbo land because the vast majority of us Igbos know that he fought for our liberation and independence

That's why the federal government does not want to teach the history of the war, doing so would expose the ugly truth that the Northerners led by Gowon caused the war in their quest to dominate Nigeria

Chei! See logic.

You see how some people think? This guy presented his number twice to us and only God knows how many times he read it before that.

Ebele got twice as many votes by his number, he still believes the West did not vote for Ebele Azikiwe.

Yoruba should just give up and choose their Igbo friends carefully.

Odingo1:


You are not getting the point, visit the Inec link, Igbos gave Jonathan more than 5 million block vote.

Yoruba shared their vote and did not clearly vote for Jonathan.

South West vote for Jonathan PDP =2,786,417
South West vote Tinubu Ribadu ACN=1,369,943

difference= 1,416,474, ACN almost got half of what Jonathan has in South West, so how did SW vote for Jonathan in 2011 .

You shared your vote into two and be shouting that you voted for that person. Had it been that Ribadu won you will start shouting how you supported him to win, sitting on the fence and be waiting for the winner to emerge so that you will dive to the winning direction.

oilPUSSY:

“In 1999, when the constitution came in, Obasanjo wasn’t sponsored by the Yoruba, even though he was a Yoruba man; the Yoruba rejected him, and sponsored Falae. But the Northerners and the Igbo voted for him; the Yoruba never voted for him and he still won because the Northern Hausa and the Eastern Igbo decided to support him.

“In 2003, Obasanjo came for the second term; again, he was not sponsored by the Yoruba; the Yoruba put up another candidate but still he won.

“In 2007, Yar’Adua was not supported by the Yoruba but the Igbo supported the Northerners and he won.

“In 2011, Jonathan came in, he’s not a Northerner but he was supported by the North and the Igbo, and he won." Says clerk

This will tell you how inconsequential their votes are. But but since butterflies have started seeing themselves as birds, they are going back to their normal position when the chips are down.
Is it Tinibu abi Osibanjo that couldn't deliver his pooling unit ?

Meanwhile I heard that Elrufai is also warming up

In 2011, the whole south voted for Jonathan, he won five states in Yorubaland and as well as Osuland the only state in Yorubaland that Jonathan lost was won by Ribadu not his closest rival Buhari get your facts clear before you start lying like your ancestors

googi:
Chei! See logic.

You see how some people think? This guy presented his number twice to us and only God knows how many times he read it before that.

Ebele got twice as many votes by his number, he still believes the West did not vote for Ebele Azikiwe.

Yoruba should just give up and choose their Igbo friends carefully.

I tell you bro

Odingo1:




TABLE 1: NIGERIA’S 2011 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION (APRIL 16) RESULTS BY GEOPOLITICAL ZONES

STATE PDP CPC ACN

Voter Turnout
Jonathan Buhari Ribadu

GEO-POLITICAL SUMMARIES

SOUTH-WEST 2,786,417 321,609 1,369,943

INEC Results: http://www.inecnigeria.org/?page_id=31 (link updated, March 2015; formerly: )
2011 Election
SW PDP=2,786,417
SW ACN=1,369,943
How did Yorubas voted for Jonathan in 2011

Oga ade stop rubbish. People like you will be shouting igbo voted Abiola because of vote that is not up to 500k in anambra but shouting they do not vote Jonathan. If your votes are deducted, Jonathan would have still won by high margin.

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TempleHouse:
Since the demise of Zik, the Igbo had never had a leader and that is the fault of the Igbo race today. If tomorrow, the Igbo bring out a young vibrant Igbo leader who can now find his way either to go with the Northern Hausa and form alliance or the Yoruba and form alliance, then the hope of an Igbo president in Nigeria will come up.

The leaders they have now are Okorocha and Ikpeazu who are good in building Statutes and sharing Kerosene in the stadium.
The Igbo will wake up from their slumber in 2023 and allow Tinubu to lead them to the promise land.

Was Zik ever the leader of Igbos? It is funny that you people do not understand Igbos.

The man said the truth, when you look at the reality on ground it will be hard for we Igbos to produce President now. That is why we want someone with brain irrespective of the tribe to be the President so that he can rule well and give every Nigeria sense of belonging by embarking on restructuring the county. That's all we want for now.

leokid866:


Oga keep quite, forget teaching history in class we have Google we teaching our young ones ourselves, yes the Igbo were oppressed but was it only you, you think the yorubas were not feeling it. With all the war where did it lead? Nigeria is still here, power has moved from the North and gone around nigeria since then. He lacked patience. A quality every leader must have. Forget how he was buried as far as I and most Nigerians are concerned he failed us all. The Isrealites you all claim to be like had patience and intelligence ojukwu lacked both which he knew but still decided to go to war. The political structure of a country is not all a country is. I feel bad for everything that happened to the Igbos but he could have handled the situation better. He wanted to protest the loss of a thousand people and threw a million people under the bus to do it. I lost relatives to that war Father's, Mothers Cousins just so ojukwu could run away in the end and was not even bold enough to stand and die on the soil handed to him by his father. The north you all went against are they not the ones killing themselves now without any help. He wanted quick and fast action forgetting victory is to the patient. He just wasted 3 years and the blood of millions of Nigerians for nothing.

He did say "Igbos were oppressed" . He said that Igbos were massacred.

Double post

One does not have to reply everyone, especially you. But I will.

Dunkun:
Your only concern now is how to loot more from ss to develop your region the more.

For 6 years or more, you convinced Ebele with reasons and statistics like the one presented here that the West by voting twice as much for him as they voted for Ribadu, hated him and Igbo.

If you could not transform South-south or South-east with all those powerful positions into your promised Land and even left both places worse than you met it;

Which fool is going to give you another stab?

Oh, may be your traditional partner in power, the North! Didn't you make Dansuki Father Xmas?

googi:
Chei! See logic.

You see how some people think? This guy presented his number twice to us and only God knows how many times he read it before that.

Ebele got twice as many votes by his number, he still believes the West did not vote for Ebele Azikiwe.

Yoruba should just give up and choose their Igbo friends carefully.

Twice as many votes that when opposition own is subtracted you fall back to half, truth is bitter, your propaganda is been bursted on daily basis.SW voted a little bit above half for Jonathan and the other half for Tinubu Ribadu ACN in 2011 and sat on the fence to dive to the side of any winner.

Go and look at the SE/SS Voting margin and see what is called voting for someone not sharing your vote half half and be sitting on the fence.Any person that win you will claim you voted for that person.

2023 will be interesting. PDP most likely will pick their candidate from the North and vice from SE to confront APC's South western and northern VP candidate.

If it stays this way, PDP will win.

leokid866:


Oga keep quite, forget teaching history in class we have Google we teaching our young ones ourselves, yes the Igbo were oppressed but was it only you, you think the yorubas were not feeling it. With all the war where did it lead? Nigeria is still here, power has moved from the North and gone around nigeria since then.

People like you like to talk nonsense for the sake of talking. You have Google but you cant make use of it to find out the history of the war and who was at fault. If it was just oppression, that would be one thing. We are talking about over 50,000 Igbos men, women and children murdered in broad daylight and you are talking about oppression. It was genocide. Nigeria is still here but has Nigeria progressed since the war ended? Countries that Nigeria was better than before the war like South Korea, Dubai and Singapore have left you Nigerians behind and are now global powers, but all you know is that Nigeria is here and power is moving around.

He lacked patience. A quality every leader must have.

Ojukwu lacked patience? Over 50,000 people murdered in a year but Ojukwu lacked patience? You wanted him to wait until that number reached one million before he acts?

Forget how he was buried as far as I and most Nigerians are concerned he failed us all

Ojukwu job was about his people, not about you Nigerians

The Isrealites you all claim to be like had patience and intelligence ojukwu lacked both which he knew but still decided to go to war. The political structure of a country is not all a country is. I feel bad for everything that happened to the Igbos but he could have handled the situation better.

He could have handled it better? His people were being killed but he he still took the risk of travelling out of the safety of the Eastern Region to Ghana, where the Ghanaian Government could have connived with the Nigerian government and had him killed, just so he could get an agreement that would bring peace. How else could he have handled it? Why didn't Gowon handle it better by honouring the agreement he signed in Ghana?

He wanted to protest the loss of a thousand people and threw a million people under the bus to do it. I lost relatives to that war Father's, Mothers Cousins just so ojukwu could run away in the end and was not even bold enough to stand and die on the soil handed to him by his father. The north you all went against are they not the ones killing themselves now without any help. He wanted quick and fast action forgetting victory is to the patient. He just wasted 3 years and the blood of millions of Nigerians for nothing.

Ojukwu fought for the liberation and freedom of his people from "Hausa/Fulani controlled Nigeria" in the face of the mass-murder of his people. He may not have succeeded but there is no shame in a people who are fighting for their freedom and independence. One of the most honourable things a people can do is to rise up and fight for their freedom against oppression and genocide. The Igbo nation may have suffered greatly and lost millions but nobody ever said that freedom comes easy or without pain. The allies lost over 50 million souls in the second world war just to liberate Europe. For rising up to fight for our freedom, the Igbo nation will always be endeared to Ojukwu as the freedom fighter he was.

Today, where is the "one Nigeria" that Nigeria was fighting for? Where is the progress? Where is the unity? Nigeria has gone backwards while others have stormed forward.

Ecstasy154:
Elder statesman and Senior Advocate of Nigeria (SAN), Chief Robert Clarke has said that the South West region is already well positioned to produce President Muhammadu Buhari’s successor in 2023.

He noted that since 1999, presidential power goes to any region where two of the three major tribes of Igbo, Yoruba, and Hausa/Fulani decided to take it to after forming an alliance.

Against that backdrop, Clarke posited that with the current collaboration between the Southwest and President Muhammadu Buhari, presidential power was certain to shift to Yorubaland in 2023.

He said it was unfortunate for the Igbos that they have never had a partnership with either the Hausa or the Yoruba in any election since 2011.

Speaking in an interview with Sun Newspaper, the elder statesman said, “The problem in Nigeria is that the politician has created for themselves a situation where if two of them gather against the third one, they will want political power to be rotating among themselves.

“There are three major tribes. The Igbo, Yoruba and the Hausa. Where two of these major tribes gang up, that is where the power is going.

“In 1999, when the constitution came in, Obasanjo wasn’t sponsored by the Yoruba, even though he was a Yoruba man; the Yoruba rejected him, and sponsored Falae. But the Northerners and the Igbo voted for him; the Yoruba never voted for him and he still won because the Northern Hausa and the Eastern Igbo decided to support him.

“In 2003, Obasanjo came for the second term; again, he was not sponsored by the Yoruba; the Yoruba put up another candidate but still he won.

“In 2007, Yar’Adua was not supported by the Yoruba but the Igbo supported the Northerners and he won.

“In 2011, Jonathan came in, he’s not a Northerner but he was supported by the North and the Igbo, and he won. Having realised that power is between two of these sects, the Yoruba and the Hausa merged in 2015 and they produced Buhari.

“In 2023, if the Igbo don’t find themselves holding onto the Yoruba as a friend or the Hausa as a friend and allow the Hausa and the Yoruba to hold themselves together as in 2015, then that ticket will produce the president. That means the Yoruba will produce the president, the Northerners will produce the vice president because that is the reality of the number. Politics is in number.

“Since the demise of Zik, the Igbo had never had a leader and that is the fault of the Igbo race today. If tomorrow, the Igbo bring out a young vibrant Igbo leader who can now find his way either to go with the Northern Hausa and form alliance or the Yoruba and form alliance, then the hope of an Igbo president in Nigeria will come up.

“But I as Robert Clarke seeing the terrain of politics in Nigerians do not see any hope for an Igbo presidency except they change their attitude in aligning themselves with one of the two tribes. I’m looking at Nigeria consisting of three ethnic groups; between two of these three groups, there the power lies. So, if the Igbo can fix themselves in any of the two alliances, then there’s hope for them.”

https://dailypost.ng/2019/05/25/2023-yoruba-will-produce-president-buhari-clarke/amp/

. Since 2011 Igbos have not formed any alliance with Hausa or Yoruba...You are right sir and it will cost Igbo's presidency in 2023.The era of being in isolation has gone in Nigeria... I said it here once but .Some Nairaland analysts said it is an epistle. We shall see when it becomes part of the Nigerian holy writing in 2023...Igbo's missed a great chance in 2019. Thank you for your analysis. “In 2023, if the Igbo don’t find themselves holding onto the Yoruba as a friend or the Hausa as a friend and allow the Hausa and the Yoruba to hold themselves together as in 2015, then that ticket will produce the president. That means the Yoruba will produce the president, the Northerners will produce the vice president because that is the reality of the number. Politics is in number......Thank you for sharing my opinion and conclusion. However with due respect I want to say that Yoruba supported Obasanjo in 2023..It was Yoruba agenda then Only Osun State did not vote him because firmer governor Aregbesola of. APC just defeated Oyinloka of PDP at the appeal court.. and he did not PDP to come back to the state in any form...At any rate thank you sir for your reasoning and objective conclusion.
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googi:
Well written.

I did not see where YORUBA caused your problem in there. Yoruba gave Ojukwu hero's welcome in Lagos.

Ojukwu came back and joined NPN parading himself as the "beautiful bride" (courtesy Zik) all over the North to Emirs. All is forgiven, abi?

But he lost his election in his home as a Senator to unknown. Later embraced Abacha as his roving diplomat all over the world.

If you hate the North so much, Scorpion Adekunle gave Ojukwu Army arms and ammunition to cross over to the North and fight their enemies.

Oti o! They cross over to rape the Mid-West.

Yet, this Yoruba na your enemies. The only place you got all your properties back after the War. No even Port Harcourt gave you your properties back.

Look, I taya for una.

The problem with you Yorubas is that you dont realise that Scorpion Adekunle should have been fighting for Oduduwa Republic rather than fighting for the Caliphate of Sokoto

Today, you Yorubas are still begging the same Caliphate to restructure Nigeria so you can control the resources on your own land.

At least Ojukwu was fighting to free his people, Yoruba officers like Adekunle and Obasanjo were fighting to enslave everyone to the caliphate.

1999 to 2007Yoruba 8 years.
2007 to 2011Hausa 4 years
2011 to 2015 Ibo. 4 years
2015 to 2023Hausa 8 years

Hausa supposed to at least rest from 2023 to 2039 .
But I don’t trust that Buhari . Let’s see the will of God though !

it's quite unfortunate that Nigerian youths have become obsessed with presidency to the points of hurling insults, hate speeches against one another's ethnic groups, religious leanings without minding the consequence of their comments.It's high time these purveyors of these nauseating remarks are blocked from this forum.We need constructive and realistic solutions to the myriads of problems facing this Nation.

MorufuAtanda:


So it is not an alliance with the East, but when one house of assembly member in bayelsa decamps from PDP to APC, your ewedu mouth will start jubilating that 'south-south now hates Iboos', abi?

What's all this blablabla u are saying, it doesn't correlate.. Is pdp an Ibo party?

gidgiddy:


People like you like to talk nonsense for the sake of talking. You have Google but you cant make use of it to find out the history of the war and who was at fault. If it was just oppression, that would be one thing. We are talking about over 50,000 Igbos men, women and children murdered in broad daylight and you are talking about oppression. It was genocide. Nigeria is still here but has Nigeria progressed since the war ended? Countries that Nigeria was better than before the war like South Korea, Dubai and Singapore have left you Nigerians behind and are now global powers, but all you know is that Nigeria is here and power is moving around.





Ojukwu lacked patience? Over 50,000 people murdered in a year but Ojukwu lacked patience? You wanted him to wait until that number reached one million before he acts?




Ojukwu job was about his people, not about you Nigerians




He could have handled it better? His people were being killed but he he still took the risk of travelling out of the safety of the Eastern Region to Ghana, where the Ghanaian Government could have connived with the Nigerian government and had him killed, just so he could get an agreement that would bring peace. How else could he have handled it? Why didn't Gowon handle it better by honouring the agreement he signed in Ghana?



Ojukwu fought for the liberation and freedom of his people from "Hausa/Fulani controlled Nigeria" in the face of the mass-murder of his people. He may not have succeeded but there is no shame in a people who are fighting for their freedom and independence. One of the most honourable things a people can do is to rise up and fight for their freedom against oppression and genocide. The Igbo nation may have suffered greatly and lost millions but nobody ever said that freedom comes easy or without pain. The allies lost over 50 million souls in the second world war just to liberate Europe. For rising up to fight for our freedom, the Igbo nation will always be endeared to Ojukwu as the freedom fighter he was.

Today, where is the "one Nigeria" that Nigeria was fighting for? Where is the progress? Where is the unity? Nigeria has gone backwards while others have stormed forward.

The world had gone through two world wars, but you guys learnt nothing from that did you? Fighting a civil war after everything that you had seen happen world wide. Fighting for your freedom doesn't always have to lead you down the path of a carrying a gun, . You lacked the populace, knowledge, development and the right international backing to fight that war and ojukwu knew it. We have lost 50,000 people but sure let's throw a million more into the abyss, yes that is the way forward. Looking back at the war i as a simple citizen knew that the igbos lacked the strength to achieve that dream of theirs, ojukwu was a general.Nigeria had a lot of problems after independence and your war helped no-one. Not even you the instigators. yes there's nothing wrong fighting for your freedom if you are feeling oppressed, but if you are going to strike a king it's best to kill the king. The igbos lacked the strength to kill the king. They struck the moment ojukwu went on radio to declare biafra, that one single act is what doomed the Igbo fate.Forgetting you were not the only ones around. But we the rest of us had to carry your stocks after you tried to screw us all over, and instead of you take an humble position you out here forming bad guy. I'm sorry but I and my people will push for a better Nigerian tomorrow. You can just join us if you want or stay in your hate and keep fantasizing about a country that Never was and will never be. Also is not like the igbos immediately went into a Golden age after the war. Instead of you guys to keep the unity and the balls that made you feel you can have your own country, after the war you started denying each other. forgetting his intentions, ojukwu should have had better foresight.

PFRB:

He did say "Igbos were oppressed" . He said that Igbos were massacred.

Yes they were massacred, but in truth tell me does make sense to lose 50,000 people and throw 1 million people under the bus just to protest and then eventually lose it all? Cause at the end of it all Wetin ojukwu gain?

leokid866:


Oga keep quite, forget teaching history in class we have Google we teaching our young ones ourselves, yes the Igbo were oppressed but was it only you, you think the yorubas were not feeling it. With all the war where did it lead? Nigeria is still here, power has moved from the North and gone around nigeria since then. He lacked patience. A quality every leader must have. Forget how he was buried as far as I and most Nigerians are concerned he failed us all. The Isrealites you all claim to be like had patience and intelligence ojukwu lacked both which he knew but still decided to go to war. The political structure of a country is not all a country is. I feel bad for everything that happened to the Igbos but he could have handled the situation better. He wanted to protest the loss of a thousand people and threw a million people under the bus to do it. I lost relatives to that war Father's, Mothers Cousins just so ojukwu could run away in the end and was not even bold enough to stand and die on the soil handed to him by his father. The north you all went against are they not the ones killing themselves now without any help. He wanted quick and fast action forgetting victory is to the patient. He just wasted 3 years and the blood of millions of Nigerians for nothing.

U r very wise

I am yoruba and i know the next president wont be yoruba. Awon fulani/ hausa ti lu wa ni jibiti.

lenghtinny:
Clarke may be right about the alliance but he's so wrong about 2011. Yorubas supported Jonathan in 2011 while the north were against. The Old man should stop twisting history.

Pdp giving its slot to the North would be a huge gamble because it won't favor them at the end of the day.... Hoping the north would give them massive votes in return is not enough to guarantee a win for them.

Just look for someone worthy enough in the south because an average Yoruba man won't even endorse a Tinubu presidency. Though I know the APC would be smarter than to give the slot to him and Tinubu himself knows when to take a bow.

You are right