Feraz:

How did madara get the rinnegan to give to pain cos going by history, he was the only one with the dojustu? Exactly, i had the sage, first, fourth and his brother but then his brother wields a ms which is no match for an ems, fourth and first were sealed using the death reaper technique leaving only the sage himself or it might be his father called the tenju God. Infact, i don't know. Naruto will borrow help from itachi and the kyuubi (they must cooperate) to defeat madara.
I just wish him and sasuke ll fight first and then both face off madara. I think the difference between the first and madara is just chakra and the dojustu

Feraz:

Madara formed the organisation using yahiko. This is one of the mysteries in naruto. There are so many mysteries:
how madara and yahiko met
how madara gave nagato the rinnegan
how brutal the fight was between the first and madara
how madara got the rinnegan
jiraiya's connection with the uzumaki clan
how shisui got his ms
how the first died
how madara survived the defeat
who murdered the uchiha clan with itachi
how madara formed the village of the hidden mist
how , so many

Feraz:

Sasuke can't take on madara cos
1. Madara has experience
2. He wields an ems and a rinnegan
3. He is not driven by hatred as sasuke but he uses hatred
i tink naruto will weaken him and then sasuke will finish him off. Remember his father put the kyuubi in him for him to perfect a justu which kishimoto hasn't mentioned.
Nagato didn't put up much of a fight with bee, itachi and naruto. I was like wtf! unlike when he came to konoha. Madara is my kinda villian. Loved the part where he took his time to sit down and told a story of the juubi. Assuming 4th hokage was there, would that have happened? Besides, who do you think is in that coffin kabuto summoned? I have 4 people in mind

WackyJ1:

It's not Madara that have Nagato his Rinnegan, they showed when he activated it besides where did madara get the Rinnegan to give nagato? Madara dey lie eh. I don tire for the guy,
It was Madara that murdered the Uchiha clan with Itachi, it think Itachi said so during his fight with sasuke.
I think the first died during the first great Shinobi war

firestar:

Please note that Nagato was also Uzumaki. I doubt he knew.
Madara himself said so as he retrived the doujutsu shortly after his battle with Konan. Remember this is Madara, he is a mastermind that uses hatred. The ones loyal to him in Akatsuki are Zetsu and Kisame.
And another thing: the third hole in that mask would contain what? First his alter-ego as Tobi-is-a-good-boy wielding the Sharingan then this. I previously thought the ancient coot would acquire the Byakugan as well making the third doujutsu. {Another mystery}

What's your take on that?

firestar:

Please note that Nagato was also Uzumaki. I doubt he knew.
Madara himself said so as he retrived the doujutsu shortly after his battle with Konan. Remember this is Madara, he is a mastermind that uses hatred. The ones loyal to him in Akatsuki are Zetsu and Kisame.
And another thing: the third hole in that mask would contain what? First his alter-ego as Tobi-is-a-good-boy wielding the Sharingan then this. I previously thought the ancient coot would acquire the Byakugan as well making the third doujutsu. {Another mystery}

What's your take on that?

Brisingr:

if madara had d rinnegan first w
hy give it to nagato

WackyJ1:

I think he knew because when they first told him to go and capture the nine tails he war disturbed though only Konan knew,
I don't think Madara uses hatred or is driven by hatred as the rest of his clan he's the only bad Uchiha that is driven purely by his own lust for power and control,
BTW When one has the Rinnegan there's no need for the Byakugan. hatred as the rest of his clan he's the only bad Uchiha that is driven purely by his own lust for power and control,
BTW When one has the Rinnegan there's no need for the Byakugan.

Brisingr:

if madara had d rinnegan first w
hy give it to nagato

WackyJ1:

I think he knew because when they first told him to go and capture the nine tails he war disturbed though only Konan knew,
I don't think Madara uses hatred or is driven by hatred as the rest of his clan he's the only bad Uchiha that is driven purely by his own lust for power and control,
BTW When one has the Rinnegan there's no need for the Byakugan. hatred as the rest of his clan he's the only bad Uchiha that is driven purely by his own lust for power and control,
BTW When one has the Rinnegan there's no need for the Byakugan.

Feraz:

me thinks that the mask represents the concentric circles of the rinnegan and the holes are the tomoe of the sharingan. Nagato is an uzumaki. Wonder why he was able to adapt to the rinnegan without getting weak unlike kakashithat's why i said it's a mysterymadara uses hatredato is an uzumaki. Wonder why he was able to adapt to the rinnegan without getting weak
unlike kakashithat's why i said it's a mysterymadara uses hatred



The Uzumaki is known for sealing techniques as well as longevity. In the case of Uzumaki Mito-- Shodaime's wife, it enabled her to host the Kyuubi. The Senju and the Uzumaki have inherited body the Sage of the Six Paths while the Uchiha inherited the eyes. So it shouldn't be strange that Nagato can wield the Rinnegan since he has the body for it. The same applies to Uzumaki Kushina, Senju Tsunade, and Naruto. Kakashi dosen't have the body since his Sharingan was his was a gift from Uchiha Obito.

WackyJ1:

How does madara use hatred? Sasuke uses hatred to get stronger but how does Madara use his, i've not even seen him show a sign of his

Feraz:

^^^^^how can it be uchiha fugaku? So yondaime fought sasuke's father? The same person that kisame recognised as the second mizukage? Besides, itachi killed his father cos his sharingan was more advanced than his dad's. Truly, it might be an impostor but it can't be sasuke's father

I second that.
We just have to wait and see then. It hasn't been proven that Hyuugas are immune to all genjutsu. But they can see chakra paths. The rinnegan beats the byakugan by having no blindspot as each move isn't wasted through linked vision.
The caged bird seal should be for the Sharingan imo.

Feraz:

^^^^^how can it be uchiha fugaku? So yondaime fought sasuke's father? The same person that kisame recognised as the second mizukage? Besides, itachi killed his father cos his sharingan was more advanced than his dad's. Truly, it might be an impostor but it can't be sasuke's father

mchenry:

yagura was the fourth mizukage. i know my theory has alot of holes in it but it is the most reasonable. who told u itachi's sharingan is stronger?? if their father can give birth to geniuses like them he must have been of considerable strength. uchiha fugaku is alive

WackyJ1:

Na wa oh, Everytime i come here nonsense nonsense theories would have come up, It can't be Uchiha Fugaku because
1. Because it has been said that it's only Sasuke that itachi left alive during the massacre, Itachi even killed his girlfriend.
2. Sasuke should have been able to detect his fathers chakra even though some might say it's not possible since sasuke was too young to be able to tell chakra apart at the time that his father was alive.
3. Madara claimed that he gave nagato the rinnegan, Fugaku would have No idea who nagato was at the time that nagato activated his rinnegan
4. Danzo would have been able to tell that it was Fugaku during their fight.
5. All the techniques that Madara uses are his unique sharingan techniques and Fugaku or anyone can't use those techniques,

mchenry:

i know i am just speculating, but uchiha fugaku is my best bet. i cant think of any other person that would want to hide behind a mask. is it really far-fetched that uchiha fugaku didn't die in the uchiha massacre?. who would have thought that itachi was acting under the elders of konoha during the massacre. uchiha fugaku was alive in the second ninja war when nagato received the rinnegan, he was alive during the birth of naruto when madara released the kyuubi. fugaku was the head of the uchiha clan so i'm guessing he had considerable strength to pull of all this and more

mchenry:

i know i am just speculating, but uchiha fugaku is my best bet. i cant think of any other person that would want to hide behind a mask. is it really far-fetched that uchiha fugaku didn't die in the uchiha massacre?. who would have thought that itachi was acting under the elders of konoha during the massacre. uchiha fugaku was alive in the second ninja war when nagato received the rinnegan, he was alive during the birth of naruto when madara released the kyuubi. fugaku was the head of the uchiha clan so i'm guessing he had considerable strength to pull of all this and more