Ihedinobi3:

Morality defines good and evil.

Morality is the ability to choose to submit to God or to rebel against Him.

Submission to God is good. Rebellion against Him is evil.

Therefore, it is impossible to live a good life in rebellion against God.

Ok

tintingz:
You're beginning to grasp at straws.

I've answered you, now answer my question, before I was created did God knows my end and in details?

yes.

malvisguy212:
yes.

Ok, so while I was uncreated, how was my fate known and destined when I'm not yet existing to make any decisions?

tintingz:
Ok, so while I was uncreated, how was my fate known and destined when I'm not yet existing to make any decisions?

in Isaiah the Bible say before the earth was created God has already declared the end from the beginning.

malvisguy212:
in Isaiah the Bible say before the earth was created God has already declared the end from the beginning.

How does freewill work here when God has declared everything?

LordReed:


without being aware; unintentionally.

Now Lord of Reeds, let me explain some.thing for you. You may not grasp it becos it's above you. However, I'll try to let you in.


Sin, is a nature, not an act. It's not something you do, it's what you are. What you do then is fueled or propelled by that Nature.

I have a new Nature right now. It's called 'Righteousness' given to me by Christ Jesus, so the sin Nature is gone from me. I do not bare the fruits of sin anymore.

I see and identify Sin clearly now and work away from it by the grace of God enabling me.

So, yes, I do not commit sin anymore.

tintingz:
Ok, so while I was uncreated, how was my fate known and destined when I'm not yet existing to make any decisions?

tintingz
You didn't tell me if God is responsible for your theft, lies, cheating fornication murders both physically and intentionally.
I need to hear you say when you lie it's God who makes you lie.

Go on.

Shepherd00:

Now Lord of Reeds, let me explain some.thing for you. You may not grasp it becos it's above you. However, I'll try to let you in.


Sin, is a nature, not an act. It's not something you do, it's what you are. What you do then is fueled or propelled by that Nature.

I have a new Nature right now. It's called 'Righteousness' given to me by Christ Jesus, so the sin Nature is gone from me. I do not bare the fruits of sin anymore.

I see and identify Sin clearly now and work away from it by the grace of God enabling me.

So, yes, I do not commit sin anymore.

Ok

tintingz:
How does freewill work here when God has declared everything?

well, the concept of freewill , predestination and foreknowledge is one concept that will remain mystery to man, I believe a finite man try to understand an infinite being is an uphill task, we are only to understand what God has reveal about himself.there are dimension of life that is beyond our understanding. I am not trying my best , I am only explaining what I know about God.

freewill , predestination and foreknowledge are being practice in our everyday life if we pay close attention to our life, take for examples in a movie, If we watch a movie we see the frames in sequence,is as if we know what the end will be but we will not want to imposed our will on this movie character . that's all. thank you.

LordReed:


Ok

"Ok" what?

That, "if you live a good life its because you submitted to God"?

budaatum:

"Ok" what?

That, "if you live a good life its because you submitted to God"?

Ok I don hear.

malvisguy212:
well, the concept of freewill , predestination and foreknowledge is one concept that will remain mystery to man, I believe a finite man try to understand an infinite being is an uphill task, we are only to understand what God has reveal about himself.there are dimension of life that is beyond our understanding. I am not trying my best , I am only explaining what I know about God.

freewill , predestination and foreknowledge are being practice in our everyday life if we pay close attention to our life, take for examples in a movie, If we watch a movie we see the frames in sequence,is as if we know what the end will be but we will not want to imposed our will on this movie character . that's all. thank you.

It's just paradox and absurd. Simple.

Shepherd00:

tintingz
You didn't tell me if God is responsible for your theft, lies, cheating fornication murders both physically and intentionally.
I need to hear you say when you lie it's God who makes you lie.

Go on.

My goodness, my goodness!!

tintingz:
My goodness, my goodness!!

Lolzz. I need to hear you say Satan's pride is God's doing. Go ahead

Shepherd00:

Lolzz. I need to hear you say Satan's pride is God's doing. Go ahead

Satan's pride is God doing. So?

Ask me why.

tintingz:
Satan's pride is God doing. So?

Ask me why.

In others words, God commits your crimes for you. He makes you steal, lie and commit sexual sins.

No.wahala. Enjoy.

Shepherd00:

In others words, God commits your crimes for you. He makes you steal, lie and commit sexual sins.

No.wahala. Enjoy.

He destined it.

tintingz:
He destined it.

Okay, enjoy then.