Is it not funny that the Yoruba and the Hausa/Fulani want to take everything with what they have introduced as a new lexicon in our national politics? They ask:What did the Southeast bring to the table? When did that become a national benchmark for national inclusion

onyeopobo:


All these secondary school students who post here. What I wrote was void of tribal sentiments but common sense.

Let me say what I said in a way a person like you might understand. A facially deformed man who finds it difficult to find women who'd sleep with sleep him for free went and picked up an ashawo and as per normal the ashawo asked for her 5k upfront cash. The guy paid. When they got to the bedroom, time to enter, the guys penis refused to stand, and after several minutes of trying to come up an erection, the guy got mad and stormed out of the room. When he got home he was so mad, he grabbed a knife and cut off his penis, after which he told the already cut off penis to cry him a river, I guess we can all imagine what happened 30 mins after the guy cut off his penis.

The facially deformed man is nigeria, the ashawo is the election, the penis is a majority tribe in the country. Put 2 and 2 together hope say you get my point now.

Cutting off a Majority tribe in Nigeria from Governance because they didnt vote for your party and trolling them about it is a STUPID and DANGEROUS thing to do in a country like nigeria whose togetherness is on murky waters, a country already awash with insane levels of poverty and insecurity.

The right thing the APC party should be asking is what can we do to bring the IGBOS on board this our party, why are they not voting for us? How can we entrap them to believe in this party the way they believe in PDP. How can we make our Party a true Nigerian Party that all tribes have no problem identifying with?

post=79194281:
Time to ponder........

SOUTH EAST: IS IT NOT TOO LATE?

I will chip this in just to keep the reality before us, at least for posterity sake. Truth is bitter but it's still the best medicine. 

My people say; 'He who does not remember where the rain started beating him, will not remember where it stopped'. 

REWIND TO 2014. 
A new National Party was being conceived. Political Parties, political players and Regions were being wooed to the new alliance. 

'We' Igbos (read South East) vehemently refused to touch it even with a long pole. We packaged, sold to ourselves and bought the baseless propaganda that it was an Islamic alliance that would birth an "Islamic" and "Hausa" Party. Simply because those our brethren heavily invested in the PDP at the time were afraid of losing their vested selfish interests.
Till today I'm still trying to fathom the basis for that wicked and twisted deceit especially as many of those Igbo elites who sold that dummy have since ported to the same APC.

We failed to even identify with that new Alliance. Hence the Party, APC was birthed without any remarkable input from us or presence. The few amongst us who aligned were called all kinds of names and abused to high heavens by us even when they were proven right afterall.

Thus the few Igbos who were part of it were at best fringe players as they didn't have the required clout to make serious demands and do the necessary political wheeling and dealing required in Politics to strike the hard bargains since politics is all about interests and numbers. They were even suspect, so much so that it was only their personal political sagacity that gave them whatever they got.

That Party went on to win the Presidential Election which in truth, most of us never believed it could or would, because of our half baked permutations and poor understanding of Nigerian politics. But it did. 

Curiously we turned up at the fore front of telling this same Party how it should share it's 'spoils of war'. We became hypocritical moral champions with an over bloated sense of entitlement. Who does that, in all political reality and practicality? But we did, even while vehemently and vociferously still refusing to shift our position, style and rhethoric.

We dug in. Supported every bad thing and person against the Party, the elected President and the Administration while denying any and every good done to and for our Region.

Fast forward to where we are today. Almost four years after the 2015 misadventure, we have stayed put at 2015, refusing to move forward, refusing to shift grounds, refusing to play pragmatic politics, telling ourselves the same lies we cooked and bought in 2015 and some more. 

We have started again saying "APC cannot give Presidency to Igbos in 2023", they don't want us in the National Assembly".
Buhari cannot hand over to an Igbo man because Buhari hates Igbos". "APC is deceiving you", bla bla bla.

Of course. We will believe Saraki, but we can't believe Buhari who's already President and who has a record of voluntarily picking two great Igbo sons as running mates in the past? Chukwu aju.

It is interesting and vital to note here that the PDP which many of us still proudly support and adore was in power for 16 solid years and in those years there were 4 Presidential Inaugurations and on none of those was an Igbo man found worthy by the PDP of even Vice Presidency and we are still bold to say it is the APC that has barely finished one tenure that doesn't want to give power to Igbos. Odi nma. 

NOW; Seriously, let's be sincere. As things stand today politically, why would the APC even hand power to us Igbos in 2023? 
On what grounds? 
On what records?
On what politics?
Is power given to anyone? 
Is it an appeasement or a gift? 

The APC is a political party. The main focus of a political Party is to hold power and keep it to enable it deliver on its agenda. So if the APC reads that the SE does not want the Presidency or does not have the capacity to help them win and keep power, they will stick with the regions that can and work with individuals who are interested. 

Make no mistake, I have always said, I do not blame us Igbos for the decision majority of us took in 2015. It's our right. But continuing to pretend that it was other regions, Buhari or the APC that made us do what we did then or remain where we are today is purely self deceit and I refuse to play that ostrich game. 

As far back as 2014, I and many others made that argument that Igbo Presidency was very feasible in 2023, ONLY under under the APC, ONLY IF we did a couple of things right politically. I personally continued to speak loudly on that even after the 2015 elections until when I realized that we were not ready to play the politics that was required and now I dare say it may be too late. Or is it not? Time will tell.

For now, we can continue to tell ourselves that we cannot hold the Presidency of Nigeria. I heard and read many of our brethren go from PDP to Biafra/seccesion (read IPOB) to Referendum to "Igbos do not need Presidency but Restructuring" etc forgetting that all that didn't lie squarely with us alone. We think other regions are not reading our body language?

All these guys below have all come to realize that it's very easy to play us like a flute. So like Saraki, like Fani Kayode, like Fayose, like Atiku, even Jonah Jang of all people, they keep playing us.

I've learnt not to bother myself anymore.
As some of us have said, it's good governance we want, even if only one village will be producing the Presidents. So be it.

Ka Chineke mezie okwu!!

See ya NL!

mightyhaze:
u can switch to all your scores of monikers to reply me,it doesnt stop deciphering minds from decoding ur dubious game

Justiceleague1:


So lay.
So the Igbos were responsible for the death of yar adua,huh?
A bloody agreement was reached by who,by the so called 3 major tribes,huh,3 bloody major tribes who cannot survive, especially the big4nothing north, without the Niger Delta,you mean?
GEJ was vice to yar adua and took his chance for himself,as a politician with political ambition and for his Niger Delta region, just like other individual in similar circumstances would have done.

You surely didn't expect GEJ or the Niger Delta to just wish such grand opportunity. And you also seem to forget that the president wields enormous power. The north couldn't overcome GEJ 2011 and you expect the Igbos who do not have the northern might to challenge and overcome GEJ 2011/2015?

It ain't supposed to be an issue cos it would amount to sheer evil and gross wickedness for any region to have told GEJ,who represents the Niger Delta,a region long neglected and same region that sustains the so called 3 major tribes,to move and just give way like they mean nothing,do you?

I am a Niger Deltan from Edo and I am routing for the SE cos I believe in fairness.

I am not even happy over the proposed deputy senate Presidency to be handed over to the SS,that's also very unfair.

You guys should continue doing what you like,keep on short changing others.

The Ijaws had the presidency against all odds for 6years. Nobody expected that.
God is seeing everything.

Goodluck

farem:


You will be quoting trash upandan when you are at the disadvantage as if you have removed memory cards upon anyone about how it rolled with gej régime

farem:


You will be quoting trash upandan when you are at the disadvantage as if you have removed memory cards upon anyone about how it rolled with gej régime

bigfish3k:


the north has three geo political zones
1.president - north west
2.senate president - north east
3.deputy speaker - north central

the south also has three geo political zones
1.vice president- SW
2.speaker - SW
3.dep. senate president - SS
4.SE- nothing

you can see that the north is fair to itself and they can obtain unity within themselves because of equity. but down south here : from the above the SW is smiling because it has usurped the position of the SE and u are OK with the cheating. later in 2023 u will come preaching about southern unity.
you can see that u people are the ones betraying southern unity. continue

bigfish3k:


how is the truth that i pasted/quoted there trash
btw, explain how igbos took advantage of jonathans cabinet... all these things are just propaganda against igbos

how about other regimes before jona.. also kindly explain who has been enjoying the positions
from gowon,muritala,obasanjo,shagari,buhari,babangida,shonekan,abacha,abdulsalami,obasanjo,yar adua, jona, buhari

so out of these 13 regimes igbos enjoyed power only in jonas regime(which is not even true) because jona only worked for the north, please explain who has been having advantage in all these other regimes mentioned above.
propaganda will not just allow u people to be fair to the igbos.
my happiness is the advent of the internet that is making mess of all ur age long lies against the igbos

farem:


This is an unneeded epistle!

Give us how it transpired under gej,. I mean key positions, period!
No sermon

olajide8:


Would this man kip kwayet- when the south west was excluded did the nation burn - rubbish

bigfish3k:


the north has three geo political zones
1.president - north west
2.senate president - north east
3.deputy speaker - north central

the south also has three geo political zones
1.vice president- SW
2.speaker - SW
3.dep. senate president - SS
4.SE- nothing

you can see that the north is fair to itself and they can obtain unity within themselves because of equity. but down south here : from the above the SW is smiling because it has usurped the position of the SE and u are OK with the cheating. later in 2023 u will come preaching about southern unity.
you can see that u people are the ones betraying southern unity. continue

olajide8:


2011-2014 for the ostriches that are quick to lie to themselves

President S.S
V.P north central
SGF S.E
HOS SS
Senate president N.C
Deputy SP South east
Majority leader SS
Minority NC
Speaker North west
Deputy speaker S.E
Majority leader S.W after they skimmed her out of the speaker ship Nigeria did not burn, neither did it split.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/7th_National_Assembly

Kfed4ril:


When was the south west excluded?

olajide8:


2011-2014 for the ostriches that are quick to lie to themselves

President S.S
V.P north central
SGF S.E
HOS SS
Senate president N.C
Deputy SP South east
Majority leader SS
Minority NC
Speaker North west
Deputy speaker S.E
Majority leader S.W after they skimmed her out of the speaker ship Nigeria did not burn, neither did it split.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/7th_National_Assembly

bigfish3k:


SW was never excluded. Speaker was rightly zoned to them by PDP but the powers that be in APC South West ensured that it didnt materialise.
Reason that i later learnt and looks reasonable is that they said jajaban doesnt want any figure that can arise in the SW again that can be challenging his authority just the way bankole almost succeeded in doing

olajide8:


2011-2014 for the ostriches that are quick to lie to themselves

President S.S
V.P north central
SGF S.E
HOS SS
Senate president N.C
Deputy SP South east
Majority leader SS
Minority NC
Speaker North west
Deputy speaker S.E
Majority leader S.W after they skimmed her out of the speaker ship Nigeria did not burn, neither did it split.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/7th_National_Assembly

somadinho10:
please brother when was the south west excluded... Please enlighten us since 1999....thanks

olajide8:
Your answer



How fallacious, the minority opposition -made sure the party with an overwhelming majority did not produce a speaker from the SW - Hmmmmmmm very interesting, broz u need to take alabukun, it may help solve your problem- the same way they said 16 is great then 19 during the chairman of the governors forum election

bigfish3k:


your above statement means that u have not been following nigerian politics
the speakership was rightly zoned to the SW but was thwarted by the SW themselves because of the reason i gave u. it happened , not a fallacy.
APC block votes from the SW plus some other PDP members from the north who were happy that the speakership was coming to them. what do u expect

olajide8:


Well I know you are trying to lay the blame on the SW, for not producing the speaker because of the politics they played but the fact remains, the SW was excluded, any other thing is our individual opinions - the facts are evident and whatever else is said is personally inferred, our opinions, I gave you a run down also of within the executive arm of govt and the same thing applied to the judicial arm of govt, the facts are there

bigfish3k:


am not trying to lay the blame
the blame is on them not me laying it. how i wish there was an immediate divine penalty for telling lies, you people that have been lying against the igbos unjustly would have stopped.
judiciary is not by appointment, its done in sequence of seniority. hope u know there was no igbo man there

in APC govt , igbos are not remembered in anything.
but these yorubas served under jonathan as top security officers
1.oluseyi petirin - CDS
2.Ola Ibrahim - CDS
3.Amosu -COAirStaff
4.Ade Abolurin -Civil defence Commandant
5.Ayo Oke - NIA

when i remember others i will write u

olajide8:


We can still invoke some of the old gods, because we nigerians no get respect for God almighty - we lie, twist truth, tell half truths and castigate those that tell the truth, we even manipulate facts and misrepresent them just to prove a point

Petirin Obj 2nd term, and yar adua 1st term
ola ibrahim Obj he actually took over from victor malu
ade abolurin Obj founding CG of nscdc - he still reports to the SGF so?
amosu, Ayo oke were the only ones that participated in the 2011-2015 administration - and Ayo oke reports to the SGF- for better understanding he is not within the 1-5 of the executive structure

I also thought igbos are not nigerians why should anyone that doesn't believe in nigeria want to hold any office in nigeria - they refer to nigeria as a zoo - they have forgotten that they are also part of the animals in the zoo-

Executive
President
Vice president
Sgf
Hos
CDS

Judiciary

Cjn
President court of appeal
Chairman federal high court

Legislature

Senate president
Deputy senate president
Speaker
Deputy speaker
Majority leader senate

In the country arrangement-

President
Vice president
Senate president
Deputy senate president
Speaker
Deputy speaker
CJN
President court of appeal
SGF
HOS