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Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by Shepherd00: 8:34pm On Sep 11
@OkCornel, I see you are a very strong believer and follower of Late Kenneth E.Hagin. I know you are a fierce opposer of monetary tithing, do you know Pastor Hagin was a strong proponent of Tithe payment?

You fiercely criticize the likes of Oyedepo. but do you know Oyedepo took over he mantle of Hagin and follows his foot step in everything?

Or, do you take the aspect of him writing and teaching about demons but oppose his teachings on kingdom financial principles which includes tithing and offering?

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Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by OkCornel(m): 8:55pm On Sep 11
Anas09:

Why Haven't you mentioned the names of demons, their locations, and ranks in Satan's kingdom that Stephen Dollin taught?

Why is that too hard for you?

By all means even in dishonesty you must win an argument yeah?

Okay OKcornel you win. EnthronedbyGod was right to teach about satanism. Satanism is the way to salvation. Many have come to the Light of the Gospel by learning who satan is, what he does, what demons do and all.


OKcornel you win. You are right, Jesusjnr is right.
Go ahead your gospel of demons.
Now clap for your dishonest self.
***Ignoremodeactivated***

New lessons from Anas09.

"Satanism is the way to Salvation".
"Many have come to the Light of the Gospel by learning who satan is, what he does, what demons do and all"

Fresh english lessons from the same teacher;

Expose satan and his works is not the same thing as expose the secrets of satan.

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Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by jesusjnr(m): 9:12pm On Sep 11
jesusjnr:

Now I actually did that to expose him and his agents, so that people would get to know they were the ones actually behind those threads so as to achieve the above purpose, not even to chase them away. But the result far exceeded my expectations as those blasphemous threads virtually vanished from the religious section page for several months after that.

And the extent of the impact reminded me of saying that when light comes to a place, darkness disappears, because beforehand it was almost in impossible to visit the religious section page without bumbing into thread titles like, "How Yahweh turned himself into a bastard", "Why did the Holy Spirit fornicate with Mary", "pigs, frogs, vultures, mouse, lizards are holier than Yahweh" etc.

But afterwards it became just about the opposite where one could hardly see such titles on that page, which was very refreshing and welcomed to say the least.

But after the conversion of an atheist to Christ at the time, they came back and seemed as though they had nothing to lose, as nothing I tried plus that thread could stop them.

This led me to make new threads to further exposed them thinking that perhaps the other thread had outlived its relevance as they appeared to have developed a resistance to it, therefore that new ones were needed as such:

https://www.nairaland.com/5151622/god-blasphemous-nl-satanists-comes

https://www.nairaland.com/5156441/god-blasphemous-nl-satanists-god

https://www.nairaland.com/5152268/god-unmighty-blasphemous-nl-satanists

https://www.nairaland.com/5165852/god-unmighty-blasphemous-nairaland-satanists

https://www.nairaland.com/5174183/god-blasphemous-nl-satanists-only

https://www.nairaland.com/5155594/god-blasphemous-nl-satanists-vagabond

https://www.nairaland.com/5162253/god-nairaland-satanists-yet-mourning

That's a total of seven threads, no be small thing oh. I was really ready for them. But upon all the threads, nothing, nothing!

It took just one to make them go under, or so I thought, but all these ones combined seemed to encourage them to do even worse than they were already doing before.

Maybe God was trying to tell me, "My son, no be by threads oh, but na by My Spirit."

So when I saw that it was not working, I gave up and handed over the matter to God.

Therefore I believe this thread was His answer to that prayer, as it was not until this thread which also exposed Satan's devices came up that I noticed any thread since I came here have a similar impact in this religion page with respect to those blasphemous threads as mine had done. Because it made the blasphemous threads which had returned to its full strength on the religion page, go under once again for about a month. And it took a thread that exposed Satan and his devices for that to happen.

Therefore I was aware the difference this thread had made to that extent, but when i saw that they had made a strong comeback on the section page, not even up to a day after I had left the thread, I was wondering if it was that serious?

Maybe that was the reason I was warned to take my hand off the thread, that I shouldn't be stupid, because after i had taken off my hand they couldn't even wait for up to one day to make a come back.

Makes me wonder if I should have ever taken my hands off this thread in the first place?

That should also give an idea of the real spirit behind my attackers at the time and who they were actually working for, as they seemed to be rejoicing at the same time that there was rejoicing in hell.

To be continued.

https://www.nairaland.com/5252047/cultism-spiritual-consequences-deliverance-through/77#81973395


As i continue with this effort, God seems to be opening my eyes to even more things to confirm that this thread by EnthronedbyGod which exposes the devices of Satan was His answer to my prayers concerning those blasphemous satanists' threads on the religion page after I had handed over the matter to Him.

Because this was about the time that I had prayed concerning this matter on the thread of one of those behind such blasphemous threads, to which Gandollaar, who featured prominently at the earlier stages of this thread, said "Amen" to my greatest surprise.

Post link: https://www.nairaland.com/5125286/exactly/2#77616711

The reason it shocked me was that Gandollaar used to be arguably my fiercest critic here, and she also was very well aware of the damning opinion of most Nairaland christians about me, as she once said they were right about me.

So considering our very acrimonious past, she was the last person here I had expected to shelve that aside and say amen to the prayer I said on that occasion.

Then all of a sudden here we were reunited on this thread which l believe was an answer to that prayer, and she was also the first person to register her presence and acknowledge my efforts on the thread I made to create awareness for this thread.

https://www.nairaland.com/5266715/truth-satanism-cultism-atheism-homosexualism

So was it all by coincidence? certainly not! Because this thread was an answer to that prayer she agreed with me on, which led to the disappearance of virtually all those blasphemous threads from the religion page of this forum.

So sis, I don't know if you already perceived this, but if not, I believe you deserved to know that this thread was an answer to that prayer. And also to let you know that for you to be able to identify with such things and be aware of what God was doing to this extent, it says something about you, for God let those of His know what He's about.

So some of the things that have happened on this thread in my respect, which some ignorantly thought they could stop, were not by accident, but were preordained by God, because He knew what man didn't know that had gone on behind the scenes that led to this thread.

That's explains why God Himself would deem it necessary to defend me to this extent, and would ensure that I returned to the thread after I left, because God knew what man didn't know.

To be continued.

https://www.nairaland.com/5252047/cultism-spiritual-consequences-deliverance-through/81#82184153

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Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by OkCornel(m): 9:19pm On Sep 11
Shepherd00:
@OkCornel, I see you are a very strong believer and follower of Late Kenneth E.Hagin. I know you are a fierce opposer of monetary tithing, do you know Pastor Hagin was a strong proponent of Tithe payment?

You fiercely criticize the likes of Oyedepo. but do you know Oyedepo took over he mantle of Hagin and follows his foot step in everything?

Or, do you take the aspect of him writing and teaching about demons but oppose his teachings on kingdom financial principles which includes tithing and offering?

You assume wrongly that I am a strong believer and follower of Late Kenneth Hagin.

That means absolutely anything Hagin preaches, I ought to swallow it hook, line and sinker. It doesn't work that way.

Let's take a look at Benny Hinn's recent confession as an example... that's a clear pointer to show you no Preacher is above errors. Does it also mean Benny Hinn never preached the truth in his ministry? No.

The worst form of deception is having Truth mixed with lies and errors. That is why followers of Oyedepo will see nothing wrong in the picture below.

Identify with the truth and do away with errors.


The issue of tithes has been over flogged, and Hagin is in support of monetary tithing as one of the secrets to prosperity...too bad.

Freewill, Spirit led giving has always been the standard in the new covenant. I am not aware of any believer in the early church practicing tithes for the sake of prosperity...or are you aware of any?

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Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by MuttleyLaff: 12:51am On Sep 12
Anas09:
... you win. You are right, Jesusjnr is right.
Go ahead your gospel of demons.
Now clap for your dishonest self.
***Ignoremodeactivated***
Greek trojan horse gift or no Greek trojan horse gift, sometimes you have to lose battle(s) to win war
Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by CodeTemplar: 2:03am On Sep 12
OkCornel:


You assume wrongly that I am a strong believer and follower of Late Kenneth Hagin.

That means absolutely anything Hagin preaches, I ought to swallow it hook, line and sinker. It doesn't work that way.

Let's take a look at Benny Hinn's recent confession as an example... that's a clear pointer to show you no Preacher is above errors. Does it also mean Benny Hinn never preached the truth in his ministry? No.

The worst form of deception is having Truth mixed with lies and errors. That is why followers of Oyedepo will see nothing wrong in the picture below.

Identify with the truth and do away with errors.


The issue of tithes has been over flogged, and Hagin is in support of monetary tithing as one of the secrets to prosperity...too bad.

Freewill, Spirit led giving has always been the standard in the new covenant. I am not aware of any believer in the early church practicing tithes for the sake of prosperity...or are you aware of any?



Benny Hinn's confession has been twisted out of context by your likes and I am not surprised you are happy to keep derailing this thread with that twisted Benny Hinn confession of yours.
The man simply said he wont be following or practicing the naming of offering amount like for example coming out to say a "$1000 offering to clear all your debts supernaturally". That is what I understood and not the idea of labeling it "prosperity gospel" ambiguously in order to criticize peple blindly.
From God's word in Deut 28, Zach 1:17 and the likes we know God is a God of material blessing and I wonder the subtle foundation you re laying with these twisting of facts.
Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by Gandollaar(f): 4:13am On Sep 12
jesusjnr:

Now I actually did that to expose him and his agents, so that people would get to know they were the ones actually behind those threads so as to achieve the above purpose, not even to chase them away. But the result far exceeded my expectations as those blasphemous threads virtually vanished from the religious section page for several months after that.

And the extent of the impact reminded me of saying that when light comes to a place, darkness disappears, because beforehand it was almost in impossible to visit the religious section page without bumbing into thread titles like, "How Yahweh turned himself into a bastard", "Why did the Holy Spirit fornicate with Mary", "pigs, frogs, vultures, mouse, lizards are holier than Yahweh" etc.

But afterwards it became just about the opposite where one could hardly see such titles on that page, which was very refreshing and welcomed to say the least.

But after the conversion of an atheist to Christ at the time, they came back and seemed as though they had nothing to lose, as nothing I tried plus that thread could stop them.

This led me to make new threads to further exposed them thinking that perhaps the other thread had outlived its relevance as they appeared to have developed a resistance to it, therefore that new ones were needed as such:

https://www.nairaland.com/5151622/god-blasphemous-nl-satanists-comes

https://www.nairaland.com/5156441/god-blasphemous-nl-satanists-god

https://www.nairaland.com/5152268/god-unmighty-blasphemous-nl-satanists

https://www.nairaland.com/5165852/god-unmighty-blasphemous-nairaland-satanists

https://www.nairaland.com/5174183/god-blasphemous-nl-satanists-only

https://www.nairaland.com/5155594/god-blasphemous-nl-satanists-vagabond

https://www.nairaland.com/5162253/god-nairaland-satanists-yet-mourning

That's a total of seven threads, no be small thing oh. I was really ready for them. But upon all the threads, nothing, nothing!

It took just one to make them go under, or so I thought, but all these ones combined seemed to encourage them to do even worse than they were already doing before.

Maybe God was trying to tell me, "My son, no be by threads oh, but na by My Spirit."

So when I saw that it was not working, I gave up and handed over the matter to God.

Therefore I believe this thread was His answer to that prayer, as it was not until this thread which also exposed Satan's devices came up that I noticed any thread since I came here have a similar impact in this religion page with respect to those blasphemous threads as mine had done. Because it made the blasphemous threads which had returned to its full strength on the religion page, go under once again for about a month. And it took a thread that exposed Satan and his devices for that to happen.

Therefore I was aware the difference this thread had made to that extent, but when i saw that they had made a strong comeback on the section page, not even up to a day after I had left the thread, I was wondering if it was that serious?

Maybe that was the reason I was warned to take my hand off the thread, that I shouldn't be stupid, because after i had taken off my hand they couldn't even wait for up to one day to make a come back.

Makes me wonder if I should have ever taken my hands off this thread in the first place?

That should also give an idea of the real spirit behind my attackers at the time and who they were actually working for, as they seemed to be rejoicing at the same time that there was rejoicing in hell.

To be continued.

https://www.nairaland.com/5252047/cultism-spiritual-consequences-deliverance-through/77#81973395
Be strong, no matter what anyone says. Only God is a righteous judge, let no one judge you.

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Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by OkCornel(m): 4:38am On Sep 12
CodeTemplar:

Benny Hinn's confession has been twisted out of context by your likes and I am not surprised you are happy to keep derailing this thread with that twisted Benny Hinn confession of yours.
The man simply said he wont be following or practicing the naming of offering amount like for example coming out to say a "$1000 offering to clear all your debts supernaturally". That is what I understood and not the idea of labeling it "prosperity gospel" ambiguously in order to criticize peple blindly.
From God's word in Deut 28, Zach 1:17 and the likes we know God is a God of material blessing and I wonder the subtle foundation you re laying with these twisting of facts.

Yeah, I guess Oyedepo's revelation on tithing as regards Job was also twisted out of context too. undecided

I used Benny Hinn's confession as an example to prove no preacher is above errors. If you were a fierce follower of Hinn for example, swallowing and defending everything he does from the altar, how would his recent confession make you look?

Give a $1,000 to supernaturally clear your debt. Give monetary tithes to have open heavens over your head... what's the difference?


What exactly is the motive of a believer giving? Should it be because of unconditional love for God and his neighbor OR should it be because of what he is expecting by way of financial & other blessings in return from God?

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Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by jesusjnr(m): 7:46am On Sep 12
Gandollaar:
Be strong, no matter what anyone says. Only God is a righteous judge, let no one judge you.
Thanks sis I really appreciate.

As I said much earlier, the Lord is my strength, so anyone who can stop the Lord strength can stop me. I believe He's your strength too.

Nice chattinging with you once again.

My regard to your energetic kids, I guess. cheesy

God bless.

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Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by MuttleyLaff: 8:50am On Sep 12
MuttleyLaff:
"Let's watch and see how far you can manage and how much mileage more you can squeeze out of this "calling" of yours"
- Religion / Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by MuttleyLaff: 10:10am On Aug 26

I remember very well, the above red inverted commas quote I made about you Apostle EnthronedbyGod. I just knew you cant keep up the deceptive appearances for much longer, because you have created a false impression that is very difficult to maintain. As you exit, may I say good riddance to bad rubbish and I am very glad to "eventuarry" soon see the back of you and your fakeries coming to an abrupt halting end.

Look at the bright side of life Apostle EnthronedbyGod, you at least have your gamut of other more monikers to fall back on to, for continuing with your unordained paranormal clergy work and also be carrying out your demonology calling with.... knowing you're not genuine.
jesusjnr you'll fall on your sword same way done with that Apostle EnthronedbyGod moniker ID

The same way we'll judge angel, is the same way you are being rightfully judge. Judged for talking out of turn, judged for behaving badly, judged for misleading others with a graven picture and/or image of Jesus. Judged because of your blasphemies and idolatry. You're a very pitiful sight, you're your worst enemy and need deliverance from your dark ugly twisted foul hearted self. We will not deter except you repent or we will see the back of you, like with that Apostle EnthronedbyGod moniker ID, if you don't repent.

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Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by Gandollaar(f): 2:03pm On Sep 12
jesusjnr:
Thanks sis I really appreciate.

As I said much earlier, the Lord is my strength, so anyone who can stop the Lord strength can stop me. I believe He's your strength too.

Nice chattinging with you once again.

My regard to your energetic kids, I guess. cheesy

God bless.
They will hear. Thanks

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Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by Iamdazzle: 4:14pm On Sep 12
So the Op finally disappeared? I knew it and to think alot of folks were so enthralled and taken in by his shenanigans.

He even became some form of authority instructing ppl what to do or not... The cheek!

Even some of you now at logger heads were initially in support of his fables, when a minute no of us who saw thru his hogwash disagreed with him on some issues.

I just knew time would reveal his true nature and voila!!!

Not surprised in the least bit.

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Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by madprophet: 5:46pm On Sep 12
All this back and forth argument...

All is well
Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by Mariangeles: 6:20pm On Sep 12
jesusjnr:
Lol!

Since it's Jesus it would be theology, but because it's EnthronedbyGod it is called demonology.

Obviously some have genuine concerns here but for anas09 and some others here like that homosexualist guy, na original smokescreen.

But mark my words bro, EnthronedbyGod would be vindicated by God on this same thread.

Glory be to God.
I understand her point .
You and okcornel should stop twisting the Words of Jesus Christ just to win arguments.

Jesus Christ DID NOT go deep into the things of darkness. Instead He taught about the higher powers in the heavenly places.

With the little time He had on earth, did you think He was going to waste it talking about inferior, powerless insignificant demons ? Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease give me a break !

All this accusations, counter accusations and name calling just to win arguments does not profit anything.
Jesus Christ mostly classified them as one, Satan.
He said " Rejoice not that the spirits are subject unto you ..." Why ? Because that is NOT the main OBJECTIVE. (What Jesus Christ meant basically was DO NOT GIVE TOO MUCH ATTENTION TO THE THINGS OF DARKNESS)
Rather He said "...rejoice because your names are written in heaven " (Meaning FOCUS ON THE HEAVENLY)

In the things of the spirit, there's a higher realm that the demons can't dare to reach. Talk about that higher place.
Talk about the Angels instead of demons, talk about praise and worship and thanksgiving instead of continuous binding and casting in the lower realm.

If we continue fighting a battle that Jesus Christ already won the war, when then do we have time solely for God?
When do we create time for His exaltation, praise, worship? ( Which is a higher calling )When we keep setting our focus on fighting demons ...until when ? Till Jesus comes ?

Let's not forget our main OBJECTIVE which is GOD, soul winning, preaching the gospel of Jesus Christ, and not talking about demons demons demons!
Thank be unto God I didn't read all the part where enthroned wrote about demons, naming them one by one.
Thank God I was spared that information.

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Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by jesusjnr(m): 7:05pm On Sep 12
jesusjnr:


As i continue with this effort, God seems to be opening my eyes to even more things to confirm that this thread by EnthronedbyGod which exposes the devices of Satan was His answer to my prayers concerning those blasphemous satanists' threads on the religion page after I had handed over the matter to Him.

Because this was about the time that I had prayed concerning this matter on the thread of one of those behind such blasphemous threads, to which Gandollaar, who featured prominently at the earlier stages of this thread, said "Amen" to my greatest surprise.

Post link: https://www.nairaland.com/5125286/exactly/2#77616711

The reason it shocked me was that Gandollaar used to be arguably my fiercest critic here, and she also was very well aware of the damning opinion of most Nairaland christians about me, as she once said they were right about me.

So considering our very acrimonious past, she was the last person here I had expected to shelve that aside and say amen to the prayer I said on that occasion.

Then all of a sudden here we were reunited on this thread which l believe was an answer to that prayer, and she was also the first person to register her presence and acknowledge my efforts on the thread I made to create awareness for this thread.

https://www.nairaland.com/5266715/truth-satanism-cultism-atheism-homosexualism

So was it all by coincidence? certainly not! Because this thread was an answer to that prayer she agreed with me on, which led to the disappearance of virtually all those blasphemous threads from the religion page of this forum.

So sis, I don't know if you already perceived this, but if not, I believe you deserved to know that this thread was an answer to that prayer. And also to let you know that for you to be able to identify with such things and be aware of what God was doing to this extent, it says something about you, for God let those of His know what He's about.

So some of the things that have happened on this thread in my respect, which some ignorantly thought they could stop, were not by accident, but were preordained by God, because He knew what man didn't know that had gone on behind the scenes that led to this thread.

That's explains why God Himself would deem it necessary to defend me to this extent, and would ensure that I returned to the thread after I left, because God knew what man didn't know.

To be continued.
Lol!

Not even up to day after i made the above revealing post concerning how the blasphemous threads on the religion section went under, guess who showed up?

Yes, one of them but not the one I exposed but one who took after him, and appears to have exceeded the blasphemies of his mentor here. And he didn't only show up on the religion page after a long break, but also on a thread of mine of all the threads here to show they know who is who here and are deceived as men are.

https://www.nairaland.com/5405049/which-church-leader-reminds-most#82171023

And yet some think that what we don't know what we do here exposing the devices of the devil, but the devils are not that ignorant, for they know exactly what going on and are keeping tabs on the proceedings here, hence their reactions.

But nothing spoil because the Spirit of God pass them all.

Below are screenshots of his posts on the religion page, my thread, his profile page and some of his blasphemous threads titles.

God bless.

p.s. For those who don't know not, one of the major traits of Satan is the blasphemy of God's Name and Person.

Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by jesusjnr(m): 7:12pm On Sep 12
The devil's a bloody fool for thinking he can use ignorant and gullible christians here to stop those who pose a serious threat to his works here from doing what he detests most. The exposure of his devices!!!!!

Therefore I'll respond by exposing more of his devices here in Nairaland.

More blasphemous thread titles from the same moniker.

Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by MuttleyLaff: 8:29pm On Sep 12
Mariangeles:
... should stop twisting the Words of Jesus Christ just to win arguments.
Arguing isnt communication, it is noise period. Ignorant people, the likes of jesusjnr, will always start an opinion with the words of Jesus just to win arguments even at the cost of their souls. He prefers arguments to discussion and he is set that he must win the argument(s). What is wrong with agree to disagree, instead twisting the Bible and words of Jesus just to win arguments, erhn

Mariangeles:
Jesus Christ DID NOT go deep into the things of darkness. Instead He taught about the higher powers in the heavenly places.
Yes, you're right, Jesus Christ, just like that, DID NOT go deep into the things of darkness. Any mention of names of demons was not coming from Jesus Himself . Even the mention of demon names, in Jesus' presence or lifetime on earth only happened as a consequential minor accompaniment to something else, like for example the case of the demon-possessed man that ried out to Jesus. As it happens, Jesus asides this demon-possessed man, cast many demons out of many people and never once utterred the demons names, their names are inconsequential

Mariangeles:
With the little time He had on earth, did you think He was going to waste it talking about inferior, powerless insignificant demons ? Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease give me a break !
Thanks ojaare. Somebori please give this my sister an "oti sẹwọn" chilled cold bottle of orijin and a truckload of kolanuts because her head dey there, still kampe correct correct.

Mariangeles:
All this accusations, counter accusations and name calling just to win arguments does not profit anything.
Jesus Christ mostly classified them as one, Satan.
He said " Rejoice not that the spirits are subject unto you ..." Why ? Because that is NOT the main OBJECTIVE. (What Jesus Christ meant basically was DO NOT GIVE TOO MUCH ATTENTION TO THE THINGS OF DARKNESS)
Rather He said "...rejoice because your names are written in heaven " (Meaning FOCUS ON THE HEAVENLY)
"For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also."
- Matthew 6:21

jesusjnr is still ruled by worldly passions and so has an ugly heart, the reason why he uses his talent to preach and propagate idolatory
God hates idolatry worse than anything. The Bible back to back strongly and openly finds fault with it but jesusjnr aka Apostle EnthronedbyGod is neck-deep in this with his painting and picture of Jesus

Mariangeles:
In the things of the spirit, there's a higher realm that the demons can't dare to reach. Talk about that higher place.
Talk about the Angels instead of demons, talk about praise and worship and thanksgiving instead of continuous binding and casting in the lower realm
Whats there about angels to talk about, apart from Hebrews 13:2, where Paul, advises not forget to show hospitality to strangers, for by so doing some people have shown hospitality to angels without knowing it.

Mariangeles:
If we continue fighting a battle that Jesus Christ already won the war, when then do we have time solely for God?
When do we create time for His exaltation, praise, worship? (Which is a higher calling )When we keep setting our focus on fighting demons ...until when ? Till Jesus comes ?

Let's not forget our main OBJECTIVE which is GOD, soul winning, preaching the gospel of Jesus Christ, and not talking about demons demons demons!
"Desire for fame, pats on the back and adulation were the driving force behind opening and typing this satanic knowledge thread"
- Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by MuttleyLaff: 5:24am on 01 Sept 2019

jesusjnr aka Apostle EnthronedbyGod will do anything, will even crawl and walk over broken glass bottles, for that 15 minutes of short-lived fame, but what he doesnt know is that demons' successes are the greatest when they are magnified and made to appear larger than they are by his malarkies.

Mariangeles:
Thank be unto God I didn't read all the part where enthroned wrote about demons, naming them one by one.
Thank God I was spared that information.
""Rhetorics. Sophistry and empty talk that is intended to impress with. You can fool all the people some of the time and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time "
- Religion / Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by MuttleyLaff: 11:42am On Aug 26

It is only the "itching ears" that will be fascinated and interested in such fodder, I doubt you'll be fooled by jesusjnr aka Apostle EnthronedbyGod and be interested in wanting to know about demons, and having their names reeled out one by one.
Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by TV01(m): 10:43pm On Sep 12
Shepherd00:
@OkCornel, I see you are a very strong believer and follower of Late Kenneth E.Hagin. I know you are a fierce opposer of monetary tithing, do you know Pastor Hagin was a strong proponent of Tithe payment?
I joined this discussion not so much due to the content, or what could be described as the "unbalanced" nature of some of it. There were many who touched on that point and I didn't need to add my voice. In fact, I would rather, and yet may, ask questions of it, rather than question it.

However, an even stronger driver for me was the question of "authenticity". Specifically, of those who claim to have been commissioned/sent by God and/or experienced a divine encounter with The Lord. Especially in light of the gospel and real practical experience.

A corollary to this is the seeming default of an almost universal acceptance. An a prior assumption, that they are indeed sent. This is often allied with a claim of "spiritual witness", which is in itself a form of defence and a foreclosure of any discussion.

In short, are there any false prophets, or false teachers, wolves in sheep clothing nko? All I hear is a consensus agreement that they are indeed sent, but may have erred along the way and, God sent them like that and they remain His servants and His to judge?

OkCornel:
You assume wrongly that I am a strong believer and follower of Late Kenneth Hagin.
That means absolutely anything Hagin preaches, I ought to swallow it hook, line and sinker. It doesn't work that way.
One would hope that a Christian's belief is always in God and/or The Lord Jesus Christ and His saving work. Having said that;

- You have repeatedly and strongly championed this man as someone who heard from The Lord
- Argued for some of His utterances to be esteemed as highly as canonical text
- Named him as someone called to office by God in this age
- Testified to having a witness to his mandate
- Posted excerpts form His writings (which you claim to have read extensively)

I apologise in advance if I've mis-ascribed anything to you, and kindly correct me if I am wrong in any of the above, but in light of the them, how could you not be?

TV

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Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by OkCornel(m): 10:49pm On Sep 12
TV01:

I joined this discussion not so much due to the content, or what could be described as the "unbalanced" nature of some of it. There were many here were many who touched on that point and I didn't need to add my voice to it. In fact, I would, and yet may, ask questions of it.

However, an even stronger driver for me was the question of "authenticity". Specifically, of those who claim to have been commissioned/sent by God and/or experienced a divine encounter with The Lord. Especially in light of the gospel and real practical experience.

A corollary to this is the seeming default of an almost universal acceptance. An a prior assumption, that they are indeed sent. This is often allied with a claim of "spiritual witness", which is in itself a form of defence and a foreclosure of any discussion.

In short, are there any false prophets, or false teachers, wolves in sheep clothing nko? All I hear is a consensus agreement that they are indeed sent, but may have erred along the way and, God sent them like that and they remain His servants and His to judge?


One would hope that a Christian's belief is always in God and/or The Lord Jesus Christ and His saving work. Having said that;

- You have repeatedly and strongly championed this man as someone who heard from The Lord
- Argued for some of His utterances to be esteemed as highly as canonical text
- Named him as someone called to office by God in this age
- Testified to having a witness to his mandate
- Posted excerpts form His writings (which you claim to have read extensively)

I apologise in advance if I've mis-ascribed anything to you, and kindly correct me if I am wrong in any of the above, but in light of the them, how could you not be?

TV

I have two questions.

1) Have you read The Triumphant Church?

2) Can you show us where what Jesus revealed to Hagin is inconsistent with the scriptures?


I have other books as well.

a) Battles of the Elohim
b) Conspiracy theories and the cross.


If you haven't read those books, please don't bother responding.
Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by jesusjnr(m): 10:53pm On Sep 12
Mariangeles:

I understand her point .
You and okcornel should stop twisting the Words of Jesus Christ just to win arguments.

Jesus Christ DID NOT go deep into the things of darkness. Instead He taught about the higher powers in the heavenly places.

With the little time He had on earth, did you think He was going to waste it talking about inferior, powerless insignificant demons ? Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease give me a break !

All this accusations, counter accusations and name calling just to win arguments does not profit anything.
Jesus Christ mostly classified them as one, Satan.
He said " Rejoice not that the spirits are subject unto you ..." Why ? Because that is NOT the main OBJECTIVE. (What Jesus Christ meant basically was DO NOT GIVE TOO MUCH ATTENTION TO THE THINGS OF DARKNESS)
Rather He said "...rejoice because your names are written in heaven " (Meaning FOCUS ON THE HEAVENLY)

In the things of the spirit, there's a higher realm that the demons can't dare to reach. Talk about that higher place.
Talk about the Angels instead of demons, talk about praise and worship and thanksgiving instead of continuous binding and casting in the lower realm.

If we continue fighting a battle that Jesus Christ already won the war, when then do we have time solely for God?
When do we create time for His exaltation, praise, worship? ( Which is a higher calling )When we keep setting our focus on fighting demons ...until when ? Till Jesus comes ?

Let's not forget our main OBJECTIVE which is GOD, soul winning, preaching the gospel of Jesus Christ, and not talking about demons demons demons!
Thank be unto God I didn't read all the part where enthroned wrote about demons, naming them one by one.
Thank God I was spared that information.
Give you a break in a thread that exposes the devices of the devil?

Doesn't that sound ironic to you?

If you cannot stand the heat in the kitchen, why don't you leave the kitchen?

Or do you expect the heat to give you a break and leave the kitchen for you? If so, then you better get ready to feel the heat because the heat ain't leaving the kitchen for you!!!

If you and your anti-op gang who are so knowledgeable about how to chase demons and destroy the works of Satan without exposing the devices of Satan, why not leave this thread which was created for that purpose, and go and create the special thread to prove the spiritual capacity of what you're claiming, if it's not just in your head?

You rose to my defense when EnthronedbyGod was supporting her, but you could see that though I wasn't happy, that I didn't attack him as you did because I knew that there were certain things that superceded personal interests. That's why I begged you to calm down when you were doing so but you wouldn't listen.

And Instead of feeling remorseful for being used by the devil to achieve his aim on this thread, you're asking for a break? Please give me a break!

Something you lack knowledge of, Is that this is not just theory but practical, because it involves real demons, and not just the one you cast out in your mind or see in the book, so you should have known better.

But let me tell you the truth about yourself. You're not spiritually grounded hence your fear, because in spite of all the chapters you're quoting here, it has not yielded much fruits in your life. So you don't want to know anything about witches and are thanking God for sparing you such information because such information would have scared the living hell out of you.

That the difference between us, because I don't just have head knowledge but heart knowledge of those things you quoted. That's why even though I had no personal interest or any need for the knowledge of the devices of Satan the Op was sharing for myself, I'm not afraid because I have Satan in my back pocket in truth via the heart knowledge of the Words of Jesus, so regardless of whatever form or guise he comes, he shall not prevail against me. And this is not imaginary but a proven fact.

But unfortunately it seems you have made up your mind to continue on this your sentimental and malicious path, since you appear to have issues with just me and Okcornel who are part of the very few yet on the side of the Op, but none with any of the Op haters. So it obvious you really need to take a break from this thread.

Take care and God bless.

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Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by OkCornel(m): 10:54pm On Sep 12
Mariangeles:

I understand her point .
You and okcornel should stop twisting the Words of Jesus Christ just to win arguments.

Jesus Christ DID NOT go deep into the things of darkness. Instead He taught about the higher powers in the heavenly places.

With the little time He had on earth, did you think He was going to waste it talking about inferior, powerless insignificant demons ? Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease give me a break !

All this accusations, counter accusations and name calling just to win arguments does not profit anything.
Jesus Christ mostly classified them as one, Satan.
He said " Rejoice not that the spirits are subject unto you ..." Why ? Because that is NOT the main OBJECTIVE. (What Jesus Christ meant basically was DO NOT GIVE TOO MUCH ATTENTION TO THE THINGS OF DARKNESS)
Rather He said "...rejoice because your names are written in heaven " (Meaning FOCUS ON THE HEAVENLY)

In the things of the spirit, there's a higher realm that the demons can't dare to reach. Talk about that higher place.
Talk about the Angels instead of demons, talk about praise and worship and thanksgiving instead of continuous binding and casting in the lower realm.

If we continue fighting a battle that Jesus Christ already won the war, when then do we have time solely for God?
When do we create time for His exaltation, praise, worship? ( Which is a higher calling )When we keep setting our focus on fighting demons ...until when ? Till Jesus comes ?

Let's not forget our main OBJECTIVE which is GOD, soul winning, preaching the gospel of Jesus Christ, and not talking about demons demons demons!
Thank be unto God I didn't read all the part where enthroned wrote about demons, naming them one by one.
Thank God I was spared that information.

1) Show us where I twisted the words of Jesus.

2) Kindly clarify how deep or shallow Jesus handled the matters of the kingdom of darkness.


By the way, why is everyone suddenly ignorant of the fact that the whole demon thing started as a response by the OP to one of the questions asked in the question and answer sessions?

SCREENSHOT 1: The question by Tomtween1 that led the OP to clarify more on witchcraft
SCREENSHOT 2: The trigger question that led the OP to clarify more on the fallen angels, and me subsequently confirming with the names of fallen angels from the book of Enoch.

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Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by TV01(m): 11:11pm On Sep 12
Is this a response to whether you could rightly be described as a follower and affirmer of Mr.Hagin and his ministry grin.
As for questions, I left a few for you in my last post wink. I will not chase you for answers. But whether you do or do not, it speaks volumes cool.


TV

OkCornel:


I have two questions.

1) Have you read The Triumphant Church?

2) Can you show us where what Jesus revealed to Hagin is inconsistent with the scriptures?


I have other books as well.

a) Battles of the Elohim
b) Conspiracy theories and the cross.


If you haven't read those books, please don't bother responding.
Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by OkCornel(m): 11:14pm On Sep 12
TV01:
Is this a response to whether you could rightly be described as a follower and affirmer of Mr.Hagin and his ministry grin.

As for questions, I left a few for you in my last post wink. I will not chase you for answers smiley. But whether you do or do not, it speaks volumes.


TV





Have you read those books? And can you point out any inconsistencies with the scriptures? Yes or No.

If you haven't read those books, how can you take an informed position?

And for the umpteenth time, I am not a follower of Hagin. I don't have any "special" man of God I follow and swallow all their messages hook, line and sinker. If they pull a Benny Hinn later on, what does it make of such loyal followers of the MoG?

The Holy Spirit remains the ultimate standard.

Back to my question. Have you read the Triumphant Church? and can you point us to how it is inconsistent with the scriptures?
Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by jesusjnr(m): 6:07am On Sep 13
jesusjnr:


As i continue with this effort, God seems to be opening my eyes to even more things to confirm that this thread by EnthronedbyGod which exposes the devices of Satan was His answer to my prayers concerning those blasphemous satanists' threads on the religion page after I had handed over the matter to Him.

Because this was about the time that I had prayed concerning this matter on the thread of one of those behind such blasphemous threads, to which Gandollaar, who featured prominently at the earlier stages of this thread, said "Amen" to my greatest surprise.

Post link: https://www.nairaland.com/5125286/exactly/2#77616711

The reason it shocked me was that Gandollaar used to be arguably my fiercest critic here, and she also was very well aware of the damning opinion of most Nairaland christians about me, as she once said they were right about me.

So considering our very acrimonious past, she was the last person here I had expected to shelve that aside and say amen to the prayer I said on that occasion.

Then all of a sudden here we were reunited on this thread which l believe was an answer to that prayer, and she was also the first person to register her presence and acknowledge my efforts on the thread I made to create awareness for this thread.

https://www.nairaland.com/5266715/truth-satanism-cultism-atheism-homosexualism

So was it all by coincidence? certainly not! Because this thread was an answer to that prayer she agreed with me on, which led to the disappearance of virtually all those blasphemous threads from the religion page of this forum.

So sis, I don't know if you already perceived this, but if not, I believe you deserved to know that this thread was an answer to that prayer. And also to let you know that for you to be able to identify with such things and be aware of what God was doing to this extent, it says something about you, for God let those of His know what He's about.

So some of the things that have happened on this thread in my respect, which some ignorantly thought they could stop, were not by accident, but were preordained by God, because He knew what man didn't know that had gone on behind the scenes that led to this thread.

That's explains why God Himself would deem it necessary to defend me to this extent, and would ensure that I returned to the thread after I left, because God knew what man didn't know.

To be continued.

I once told EnthronedbyGod while he was yet here that God had shown me know that Nairaland mattered a lot to Him, and there have been several instances that had given me that notion, but arguably the most is the reaction I get from heaven when praying concerning Nairaland affairs.

For after I handed over the matter of those blasphemous threads on the religion page to Him, I started praying that He took over Nairaland among other things in that respect.

After a while I began to notice something that caught my attention while I prayed that prayer. And it was that of all my prayer points, that was the one that elicited the most response from heaven.

Though I usually feel the presence of the Holy Ghost upon me, the intensity of the Spirit assumes another dimension, as is reflected in the force with which He throws me to the floor.

And the force is usually so much that if I don't use my hands to hold the floor, I might hit it with my head.

And that is also reflected in the utterances the Spirit of God gives to me at that point in time, as it becomes more intense and stronger. And the sound I hear in my ears as that of a mighty rushing wind also increases in its intensity.

Although even before all these I already knew that God was going to take over Nairaland, the extent of the reaction of the Spirit of God during that prayer confirmed my thoughts.

Hence I planned to open a thread titled "Like Canaanland, God is about to take over Nairaland", but I didn't go through with it because I later thought It wasn't necessary, since I had already opened a quite similar thread which was titled "Has Nairaland Ever Witnessed A Made In Nairaland miracle Before?".

https://www.nairaland.com/5223214/nairaland-ever-witnessed-made-nairaland

And all these was before EnthronedbyGod created this thread and I believe also his account.

But when he opened this thread and I said I would be praying for him, I didn't even know that I was being led by the Holy Ghost to do so, as his coming was connected to my prayer for God to take over Nairaland.

Then when I started praying for the Op, I noticed that he suddenly became the third in my list of prayer points that evoked the most response from heaven at the time.

For the first on that list was yet the prayer that God took over Nairaland. Second was another yet connected to Nairaland as it has to do with a specific mighty work I expect God to do in Nairaland.

So he was third on that list and my prayer points were about twenty.

So that said something about how EnthronedbyGod's coming to Nairaland and his opening of this thread which exposed Satan's devices was viewed in the sight of God. And also how important Nairaland affairs were to Him.

But I believe that was just the beginning, for just like Canaanland, Nairaland is going to be taken over by God, as this would become a place where the mighty works of God would be showcased for all the world to see.

It shall not by might nor by power but by the Spirit of God.

And it shall surely come to pass.

To be continued.

https://www.nairaland.com/5252047/cultism-spiritual-consequences-deliverance-through/86#82217549
Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by CaveAdullam: 6:59am On Sep 13
OkCornel:


I have two questions.

1) Have you read The Triumphant Church?

2) Can you show us where what Jesus revealed to Hagin is inconsistent with the scriptures?


I have other books as well.

a) Battles of the Elohim
b) Conspiracy theories and the cross.



If you haven't read those books, please don't bother responding.
please help me with those books.

Thanks.

God bless.
Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by OkCornel(m): 7:13am On Sep 13
CaveAdullam:
please help me with those books.

Thanks.

God bless.

Bro, unfortunately, I can't find where to get the e-copies.

I purchased a hard copy of Conspiracies and The Cross somewhere at Apapa

Then borrowed Battles of the Elohim from a friend to read.

Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by CaveAdullam: 8:05am On Sep 13
Mariangeles:

I understand her point .
You and okcornel should stop twisting the Words of Jesus Christ just to win arguments.
Please where did OkCornel and jesusjnr twist scriptures. I know that I don't toil along jesusjnr paths in regards to many of his doctrines, but please lets speak truth and call a spade by its name. Be objective sister and let not your feelings but the Holy Spirit within you rule.

Mariangeles:

Jesus Christ DID NOT go deep into the things of darkness. Instead He taught about the higher powers in the heavenly places.
The Holy Spirit is the author of all scriptures, he gave little details about Behemoth, Leviathan, Prince of Persia, Dagon, Molech, Ashtaroth, Baal etc in the old testament and therefore find it no need to repeat Himself in Matthew, Mark, Luke and John on the same matter.

Mariangeles:
With the little time He had on earth, did you think He was going to waste it talking about inferior, powerless insignificant demons ? Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease give me a break !
As answered above.

Mariangeles:
All this accusations, counter accusations and name calling just to win arguments does not profit anything.
Jesus Christ mostly classified them as one, Satan.
He said " Rejoice not that the spirits are subject unto you ..." Why ? Because that is NOT the main OBJECTIVE. (What Jesus Christ meant basically was DO NOT GIVE TOO MUCH ATTENTION TO THE THINGS OF DARKNESS)
Rather He said "...rejoice because your names are written in heaven " (Meaning FOCUS ON THE HEAVENLY)
You are correct but not totally correct because if it was so, there won't be;

1. Do not be ignorant of the wiles of the devil.

2. Wrestling against principalities and powers, spiritual wickedness, rulers of darkness in high places.

3. When a demon leaves a house and later finds it clean he goes and bring seven other demons stronger than himself.

Mariangeles:

In the things of the spirit, there's a higher realm that the demons can't dare to reach. Talk about that higher place.
We are hidden in Christ and Christ in God far above principalities and powers in the heavenly places.

If that is the case only,
1. Why do we still wrestle against principalities and powers, spiritual wickedness, rulers of darkness in the heavenly places?

2. Why do we still need to submit to God and resist the devil so that he will flee away from us?

3. Why did the scriptures mentioned devil as a roaring lion looking for whom to devour?

Don't be deceived my sister, as far you are on earth, and you choose to grow more spiritually wider than your scope of horizon you must surely encounter darkness and their rulers. But thanks be to God Almighty who has already given us victory in the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Holy Spirit we can be able to used this victory on the cross of Calvary together with the armour of God to continually tread and triumph over Satan and the gates of hell.

Mariangeles:
Talk about the Angels instead of demons, talk about praise and worship and thanksgiving instead of continuous binding and casting in the lower realm.
Did Jesus Christ our Lord went into the deep things of Angels you want us to talk about?

Not that your statement is not true but we should learn to balance truth so that we won't go extreme. Satan is very crafty and is ready to counterfeit anything that is of God.

1. When we are discussing about divine angels, we should not forget that Satan can also transform into an angel of light.

2. When giving praise and Thanksgiving to God, we should be careful it comes from our hearts because that which comes from our lips and mouths glorifies the devil.

3. There is no great man in the scriptures that was not troubled by Satan. Though demons and fallen angels are on the lower realm, it is good we should not forget their devices because they are very crafty.

IF THE DEVIL IS ABLE TO CONVINCE YOU THAT HE DOESN'T EXIST THEN HE HAS ALREADY CAPTURED YOU. (A general statement and should not be taken personal).

Mariangeles:

If we continue fighting a battle that Jesus Christ already won the war, when then do we have time solely for God?
When do we create time for His exaltation, praise, worship? ( Which is a higher calling )When we keep setting our focus on fighting demons ...until when ? Till Jesus comes ?
Christians are not called to fight battles, we are called to used our medal of victory to triumph over the gates and powers of hell in our family, place of work, church, environment and anywhere we find ourselves.

We need to stand firm in the Lord and put on the whole armour of God or else demons in the lower realm we make caricature of our higher calling.

Mariangeles:
Let's not forget our main OBJECTIVE which is GOD, soul winning, preaching the gospel of Jesus Christ, and not talking about demons demons demons!
Lol.

They that are now feeding on spiritual meat, should let the babes in Christ become aware of augurs, charmers, witches, wizards, necromancers, sorcerers, soothsayers, diviners etc so that they will not be partakers with this people in their sins.

Take for example, there is a particular Irish singer, I love her songs so much but until I became aware that she is a sorcerer I stopped listening to her songs.

There is a particular book but won't mention the name that happens to be among the top ten books of most readers, the book is backed by the Spirit of witchcraft but appears innocent. If you read that book carefully you will see that it is not different from how witches operate.

When the author of the book was interviewed by telegraph in 2017 he said it will be foolish for anyone to practice everything in that book because he doesn't. Lol

We should not be ignorant of the devices of the wicked.

Mariangeles:
Thank be unto God I didn't read all the part where enthroned wrote about demons, naming them one by one.
Thank God I was spared that information.
I Thank God most especially for the testimonies we have been hearing and we will continue to hear as a result of this exposure.

REMEMBER THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MENTAL KNOWLEDGE ABOUT THE LORD JESUS CHRIST AND EXPERIENTIAL KNOWLEDGE ABOUT HIM.

Thanks.

God bless.

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Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by Ginalex: 9:16am On Sep 13
jesusjnr:



And Instead of feeling remorseful for being used by the devil to achieve his aim on this thread, you're asking for a break? Please give me a break!

Something you lack knowledge of, Is that this is not just theory but practical, because it involves real demons, and not just the one you cast out in your mind or see in the book, so you should have known better.

But let me tell you the truth about yourself. You're not spiritually grounded hence your fear, because in spite of all the chapters you're quoting here, it has not yielded much fruits in your life. So you don't want to know anything about witches and are thanking God for sparing you such information because such information would have scared the living hell out of you.

That the difference between us, because I don't just have head knowledge but heart knowledge of those things you quoted. That's why even though I had no personal interest or any need for the knowledge of the devices of Satan the Op was sharing for myself, I'm not afraid because I have Satan in my back pocket in truth via the heart knowledge of the Words of Jesus, so regardless of whatever form or guise he comes, he shall not prevail against me. And this is not imaginary but a proven fact.

But unfortunately it seems you have made up your mind to continue on this your sentimental and malicious path, since you appear to have issues with just me and Okcornel who are part of the very few yet on the side of the Op, but none with any of the Op haters. So it obvious you really need to take a break from this thread.

Take care and God bless.
I laugh when I see things like this @ the first bolded... Lol... Anyone who doesn't agree with the OP is being used by the devil... What should I now say about someone who counters or should I say "corrects" Apostle Paul's teaching that Jesus himself converted, hmm?? ... He's being used by who to do that Biko? Hehehe...

@ the second bolded, I don't even know what to say to that... So how did you arrive at that conclusion?? Because u are assistant Jesus ba?? Sometimes, Mr. jesusjr you're soooo impossible...

I don't have issues with anyone on this thread but the fact you go the "you're being used by the devil" way with everyone who doesn't agree with the op is something I find very amusing... Have a great day.

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Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by Shepherd00: 9:46am On Sep 13
OkCornel:


You assume wrongly that I am a strong believer and follower of Late Kenneth Hagin.

That means absolutely anything Hagin preaches, I ought to swallow it hook, line and sinker. It doesn't work that way.

Let's take a look at Benny Hinn's recent confession as an example... that's a clear pointer to show you no Preacher is above errors. Does it also mean Benny Hinn never preached the truth in his ministry? No.

The worst form of deception is having Truth mixed with lies and errors. That is why followers of Oyedepo will see nothing wrong in the picture below.

Identify with the truth and do away with errors.


The issue of tithes has been over flogged, and Hagin is in support of monetary tithing as one of the secrets to prosperity...too bad.

Freewill, Spirit led giving has always been the standard in the new covenant. I am not aware of any believer in the early church practicing tithes for the sake of prosperity...or are you aware of any?

Can we pls for now leave other men of God out of the discuss?

My reason for asking you this is, I have read you here and have seen you batch those who tried to point you to Jesus several times but you insisted on pointing them to Kenneth E.Hagin and his personal claims of seeing Jesus and being taught by Him.

If you are 100% sure that Jesus appeared to him to the point that insist on him as you do here, wouldn't 'Jesus have correct ed his error on Tithing if indeed He were against Tithing?

When we have to talk about Benny Hinn, we shall talk abt him, but not now.

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Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by Mariangeles: 9:47am On Sep 13
jesusjnr:
Give you a break in a thread that exposes the devices of the devil?

Doesn't that sound ironic to you?

If you cannot stand the heat in the kitchen, why don't you leave the kitchen?

Or do you expect the heat to give you a break and leave the kitchen for you? If so, then you better get ready to feel the heat because the heat ain't leaving the kitchen for you!!!

If you and your anti-op gang who are so knowledgeable about how to chase demons and destroy the works of Satan without exposing the devices of Satan, why not leave this thread which was created for that purpose, and go and create the special thread to prove the spiritual capacity of what you're claiming, if it's not just in your head?

You rose to my defense when EnthronedbyGod was supporting her, but you could see that though I wasn't happy, that I didn't attack him as you did because I knew that there were certain things that superceded personal interests. That's why I begged you to calm down when you were doing so but you wouldn't listen.

And Instead of feeling remorseful for being used by the devil to achieve his aim on this thread, you're asking for a break? Please give me a break!

Something you lack knowledge of, Is that this is not just theory but practical, because it involves real demons, and not just the one you cast out in your mind or see in the book, so you should have known better.

But let me tell you the truth about yourself. You're not spiritually grounded hence your fear, because in spite of all the chapters you're quoting here, it has not yielded much fruits in your life. So you don't want to know anything about witches and are thanking God for sparing you such information because such information would have scared the living hell out of you.

That the difference between us, because I don't just have head knowledge but heart knowledge of those things you quoted. That's why even though I had no personal interest or any need for the knowledge of the devices of Satan the Op was sharing for myself, I'm not afraid because I have Satan in my back pocket in truth via the heart knowledge of the Words of Jesus, so regardless of whatever form or guise he comes, he shall not prevail against me. And this is not imaginary but a proven fact.

But unfortunately it seems you have made up your mind to continue on this your sentimental and malicious path, since you appear to have issues with just me and Okcornel who are part of the very few yet on the side of the Op, but none with any of the Op haters. So it obvious you really need to take a break from this thread.

Take care and God bless.


All I have to say is let the Spirit bear witness !
It's not by how long you or anyone can type or blab...
I do not go deep into arguments on spiritual matters, it causes one to sin .
One thing I have to ask you though, how is it easy for you to condemn and call people names ? Because that's most of what I've been reading coming from you...

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Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by Shepherd00: 9:52am On Sep 13
CodeTemplar:

Benny Hinn's confession has been twisted out of context by your likes and I am not surprised you are happy to keep derailing this thread with that twisted Benny Hinn confession of yours.
[b]The man simply said he wont be following or practicing the naming of offering amount like for example coming out to say a "$1000 offering to clear all your debts supernaturally".[/b]That is what I understood and not the idea of labeling it "prosperity gospel" ambiguously in order to criticize peple blindly.
From God's word in Deut 28, Zach 1:17 and the likes we know God is a God of material blessing and I wonder the subtle foundation you re laying with these twisting of facts.
@bolded is what I also understand in what he said.
Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by OkCornel(m): 9:52am On Sep 13
Shepherd00:

Can we pls for now leave other men of God out of the discuss?

My reason for asking you this is, I have read you here and have seen you batch those who tried to point you to Jesus several times but you insisted on pointing them to Kenneth E.Hagin and his personal claims of seeing Jesus and being taught by Him.

If you are 100% sure that Jesus appeared to him to the point that insist on him as you do here, wouldn't 'Jesus have correct ed his error on Tithing if indeed He were against Tithing?

When we have to talk about Benny Hinn, we shall talk abt him, but not now.


1) Did Jesus give any Revelation to Hagin on tithing you're aware of?

2) Is Hagin's position on monetary tithing consistent with historical and scriptural evidences on how giving was done in the early church?

3) The revelation of demons and evil spirits Hagin got from Jesus, is it inconsistent with the teachings of Jesus in the scriptures?

4) Am I in a position to dictate to Jesus what He should reveal to Hagin?

5) Going back to Benny's recent confession on prosperity preaching and all that, does it mean he was never called by and used by God? Because of his error?

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