tctrills:

Oga do you see any one from these organizations marketing themselves on this thread? I can't go on a thread a start mentioning JW unless I am having a conversation with JW marketers.

tctrills:

I don't go about attacking people and religious even when I don't agree. But if you are trying to sell a false organizations view point it's my duty to point you out. Now talking about preaching the gospel, the Catholic have over 1billion members. They did not get there by sleeping at home. They are far better missionaries than you will ever be. Even a new church like winners has more members than you do. Clearly they are reaching out more than you are.

MaxInDHouse:


We you are lying that some other religions apart from the one and only true Christian group (Jehovah's Witnesses) are saying the same thing about being the only religion God approved shey?
Yes there are many such religions. But I said these people don't try to market themselves to me on Nairaland. You are the Nairaland marketers.

Guy if we're talking about members of religion on this planet Buddhists and Islam each have more members than Catholics:
https://youtube.com/shorts/qBACXJFGFuk?si=acvHPLUEbgT5uy2w
First, Buddhism is not more populated than Christianity. Secondly if a religion is more populated than yours, it's clearly because they have a more effective strategy than you do.


And as for Catholics whose members are in the army killing one another during political struggles, are you saying they're also disciples of Christ who commanded his disciples never to raise weapons against anyone?
Jesus Christ did not command his followers never to raise weapons against anyone.

In fact you're becoming more and more hypocritical than ever, Jesus commanded his disciples to LOVE their fellow believers just as he love them {John 13:34-35} Catholics who aren't even interested in what Jesus taught are your favorite when talking about evangelizing which supposed to turn people into peace lovers shey? Matthew 5:43-48
Yes Jesus Christ commanded us to love each other, yet JW stop talking to any ex member and you call me the hypocrite here.
JW forget the parable of the prodigal son, the lost sheep and the lost coin instead the stop loving you once you disagree with them.
Also if you love someone, you are willing to fight for that person.
I asked you what would you do if you find men raping your wife. Would you claim that Jesus Christ told you not to raise arm against them or would you do all you can to save your wife.
If you would let them rape your wife to death then good for you but if you would be as violent as you can and do all you can to save your wife then you are a hypocrite.

tctrills:
Yes there are many such religions. But I said these people don't try to market themselves to me on Nairaland. You are the Nairaland marketers.

MaxInDHouse:

So they're not Christians because according to Christ his disciples must seize every opportunity to preach and teach as in MARKET their faith.
Ọmọ that's the import of Talents in the Bible book of Matthew 25:14-29

We must MARKET the faith as Revelations says we sell it freely! Revelations 22:17

tctrills:

But the are converting people everyday. Who is deceiving who.
You used your talent to convert 8 million over 150 years and Winners chapel used their talent to convert 6 million in 30 years. Who is doing a better job? Judge for yourself

MaxInDHouse:


Jesus had thousands of followers who came to eat the miraculous food he provided during his ministry but when it's time to talk about real disciples who are doing the work he assigned only 120 met at Pentecost.
So out of that number you got for the church how many are doing the work Jesus assigned?
If it's just about anyhow increase Islam is the fastest growing religion on this planet today are they preaching and teaching what Christ commanded? Matthew 28:19-20

tctrills:

I advise that you guys humble yourselves and come learn as apprentice under Winners.

MaxInDHouse:

How to make bench warmers or real disciples?

Ọmọ Jesus wasn't interested in quantity but quality that's why he wasn't bothered when all his disciples abandoned him and left only the twelve who were his cousins from the same area. John 6:66-68
Jesus Christ was interested in saving all souls. He wanted his gospel to get to all and to give everyone the opportunity to be saved. Now get me, I know your religion is completely false but I still commend you guys for your efforts to spread your beliefs. But its not up to you or I to decide who is doing a better job.
If we use the available metrics, it would seem the Winner' chapel for example is doing a better Job but I am reminded of the words of Paul.
14 And many of the brethren in the Lord, waxing confident by my bonds, are much more bold to speak the word without fear.

15 Some indeed preach Christ even of envy and strife; and some also of good will:

16 The one preach Christ of contention, not sincerely, supposing to add affliction to my bonds:

17 But the other of love, knowing that I am set for the defence of the gospel.

18 What then? notwithstanding, every way, whether in pretence, or in truth, Christ is preached; and I therein do rejoice, yea, and will rejoice.

So Jehovah's Witnesses are making disciples who are zealously preaching and industriously teaching in all their neighbourhood {Matthew 28:19-20} all these preachers and teachers have vowed never to raise weapons against anyone again just as Christ Jesus commanded! Matthew 26:52

Mention the commandment of Jesus your church is working to achieve!

tctrills:

I know your religion is completely false but I still commend you guys for your efforts to spread your beliefs. But its not up to you or I to decide who is doing a better job.

tctrills:

As I already told you, Jesus Christ did not command his followers not to fight wars or use weapons. I also asked you, would you use a weapon on your wife's rapist?

MaxInDHouse:

You want it to be false since we have told you that unless you're a member you can't be saved!

No, I don't want it to be false. I have tested it against the word of God but it doesn't stand.

So to attack a criminal is the same as going to war shey?
Well Jesus used a rope to drive away those doing what is wrong but he commanded his disciples never to raise weapons against anyone! Matthew 26:52
That's the problem with your laws they don't add up or make sense.
You claim that Jesus Christ commanded his followers not to lift arms, you never said he commanded them to lift arms only against criminals.
You guys pick and choose. Why don't you just follow the words of God rather than create your own rules.
Import: Lawbreakers are doing what is wrong so they can be attacked to stop them but when people are bringing weapons with the aim of taken control that is WAR not a rapist!

MaxInDHouse:

That's where you failed woefully because falsehood can never ever make people from different geographical locations on this planet share the same line of thought and work out what is beneficial not to talk of what God actually promised! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

Therefore you are the one lost in falsehood as you and nobody could share the same line of thought on faith just as God's only begotten Son begged his father! John 17:22

tctrills:

No, I don't want it to be false. I have tested it against the word of God but it doesn't stand.

tctrills:

That's the problem with your laws they don't add up or make sense. You claim that Jesus Christ commanded his followers not to lift arms, you never said he commanded them to lift arms only against criminals.

tctrills:

You guys pick and choose. Why don't you just follow the words of God rather than create your own rules. So JW can fight against lawbreakers right? So JW can raise weapons against criminals? Very interesting. Was it the bible that said you should lift arms against criminals but not in war. These are the false commandments of men.

tctrills:

For all people will walk every one in the name of his god, and we will walk in the name of the Lord our God for ever and ever.

MaxInDHouse:


Ọmọ you're trapped!

This verse said people (from other religions) will [b]walk in the name of his god note that in this case God's word is telling you that each person will say he believe in God but they can't do so in faith with any group of worshipers just as you and many on Nairaland are in fact doing today.[/b]
No where in the verse mentioned religion. Also no where in the verse talks about each person saying he believes in God. Please read it again and don't add what was not written.

But JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES will walk as a group please read it again but this time around do so slowly!
Please qoute the verse maybe it says differently in your Bible
[b]"Each person will walk in the name of his god" means you're not associating with a group therefore you're alone with your personal god (lower case indicates it's not the Almighty but a god best known or understood by the person worshiping it).[/b]
Oga, you went to school please stop embarrassing the people that paid your fees. The passage says nothing about associating with any group.
[b]"WE will walk in the name of OUR God" meaning an ORGANIZATION of worshipers.[/b]
Here again the passage was not talking about any organization.

That's why i keep asking you to present the group that's practicing what God's word teaches better than Jehovah's Witnesses!

MaxInDHouse:


It's like you need to be schooled on this topic.
Guy if you attack a rapist and he eventually die in the process no court of law will free you, you will be charged with murder but if you're carrying weapons to war no court will charge you because it's a matter of which side you're supporting so no matter how many people you kill it's justified. Jesus taught his disciples not to do this because they will be compelled by politicians to start killing one another.
Stop saying what you don't know. Let me talk about the US, a country I know very well.
In the US, if you kill someone raping your wife, the police wouldn't even charge you.
If you shoot someone trespassing in your property, the police would only help you to pack the corpse.
If you doubt, I would send you as many cases as possible.
Again, if you kill in self defense in the US, it's no crime.
So note, you can kill in defense of yourself and family.
Please if you don't know, just ask or Google it.

So when you attack a rapist he or she must not die which means you're still keeping that rule that says you must not kill that's what Jesus instill in the hearts of his disciples!
You guys are so confused. But don't you see that these are just JW laws and have nothing to do with God's word?


Fighting against lawbreakers is not what we do rather we are trying to save someone's life but when we are to take side that's what we must not do!

tctrills:
[/b]
Again, you have added and infused falsehoods into the bible explanation.

tctrills:
[/b]
During WW2 the US and UK were trying to save millions of lives and to give freedom to hundreds of millions.
Stop adding manmade laws to the bible. God never asked his people not to fight in wars.
God never told his people not to lift arms.
Please go and read your bible.

MaxInDHouse:

Jesus said:
“You heard that it was said: ‘You must love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ However, I say to you: Continue to love your enemies and to pray for those who persecute you, so that you may prove yourselves sons of your Father who is in the heavens, since he makes his sun rise on both the wicked and the good and makes it rain on both the righteous and the unrighteous. For if you love those loving you, what reward do you have? Are not also the tax collectors doing the same thing? And if you greet your brothers only, what extraordinary thing are you doing? Are not also the people of the nations doing the same thing? You must accordingly be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect" Matthew 5:34-48
God's people were given the go ahead to kill the enemies of pure worship in Bible times so who are the enemies of pure worship that Jesus supported us to kill today?

Ọmọ WISDOM is in the words of Christ.
Fernando from Brazil and i from Nigeria are both disciples of Christ Jesus, we are both given the assignment to go and make disciples for our Master, Lord and King so because of war between the two countries if i support Nigeria and Fernando support Brazil will i kill my fellow disciple maker or not?
Now if i should kill my fellow disciple maker due to politics who will continue doing the work our Master assigned to us in Brazil?
You know nothing about Christ or Christianity!

MaxInDHouse:


Each of you e.g achorladey, johnw47, tctrills, oteneaaron and the rest, each will walk in the name of his god since you can't form one group and do things in common.
Be WE Jehovah's Witnesses will walk in the name of OUR God Jehovah as an organization of worshipers.

It's so simple that a toddler can understand!

MaxInDHouse:

Jesus said:
“You heard that it was said: ‘You must love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ However, I say to you: Continue to love your enemies and to pray for those who persecute you, so that you may prove yourselves sons of your Father who is in the heavens, since he makes his sun rise on both the wicked and the good and makes it rain on both the righteous and the unrighteous. For if you love those loving you, what reward do you have? Are not also the tax collectors doing the same thing? And if you greet your brothers only, what extraordinary thing are you doing? Are not also the people of the nations doing the same thing? You must accordingly be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect" Matthew 5:34-48
God's people were given the go ahead to kill the enemies of pure worship in Bible times so who are the enemies of pure worship that Jesus supported us to kill today?

Ọmọ WISDOM is in the words of Christ.
Fernando from Brazil and i from Nigeria are both disciples of Christ Jesus, we are both given the assignment to go and make disciples for our Master, Lord and King so because of war between the two countries if i support Nigeria and Fernando support Brazil will i kill my fellow disciple maker or not?
Now if i should kill my fellow disciple maker due to politics who will continue doing the work our Master assigned to us in Brazil?
You know nothing about Christ or Christianity!

tctrills:

So let's get a few things.
God wants us to love yeteven God commanded war.
What does that teach you, fighting in a war is not against God's commandment to love.
The same God that commanded love is the same that commanded war hence war is not a sin.
Please point out the passage where God ban wars, I am waiting.
Remember, no guesswork

tctrills:

You problem is that you don't really understand the English language so your leaders can easily deceive you. Trust me, with a good education, you would begin to question nonsense.

MaxInDHouse:

Little gods each individual has his or her own!
But God for organized people!

MaxInDHouse:

Naaaaaaaaaaaaaa when God commanded WAR it was to protect Jerusalem the center of pure worship but now that we worship God in spirit and truth there's nothing to protect as an excuse to kill anyone!

tctrills:

Let's just summarize the JW believe.

You can't go to war but you can use violence against criminals.

tctrills:

You only use weapons against criminals but only to injure not to kill.

tctrills:

You can love but if it's an ex member, no love.

tctrills:

Oga it's ok if you tell us you don't believe in the bible. You only believe in some false JW believe that has nothing to do with the bible.

tctrills:

God's people depend on the word of God. They don't depend on guesswork and falsehoods. So you are right, your little gods in America are not the way to go.

tctrills:

The point is that God never ban war. It's you guys adding your falsehoods that ban war.

MaxInDHouse:

As long as you can't present the organization of your God you're worshiping a god that each of them atheists and agnostics worship in their hearts!

MaxInDHouse:

So Christians can kill their fellow believers in other countries due to politics or nationalism yet they're claiming such ones are their brothers in faith!

MaxInDHouse:

As long as you can't present the organization of your God you're worshiping a god that each of them atheists and agnostics worship in their hearts!

tctrills:

You problem is that you don't really understand the English language so your leaders can easily deceive you. Trust me, with a good education, you would begin to question nonsense.

achorladey:




Should he dare to question those keeping his brains in that manipulated and lying state, that will be the beginning of the end of him in that religious pedophile organisation.