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Re: South Africa denies Nigeria visa-free status, grants Ghana - Vanguard by XhosaNostra(f): 11:07am On Jul 12
lexy2014:


Where did u c me mention anything about race in d course of our exchange? Or are u also struggling with comprehension?

So all d landlords in SA that d report was talking about are whites& Indians?

That is a habit here on Nairaland, I didn't expect you to veer from the norm.

No, they're not all white, but you can't expect all landlords to be fair, now can you? But the fact of the matter is, if you don't like where you live, you move to another place until you find a more compatible place to live in. That's what has been happening.

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Re: South Africa denies Nigeria visa-free status, grants Ghana - Vanguard by lexy2014: 11:13am On Jul 12
XhosaNostra:


That is a habit here on Nairaland, I didn't expect you to veer from the norm.

No, they're not all white, but you can't expect all landlords to be fair, now can you? But the fact of the matter is, if you don't like where you live, you move to another place until you find a more compatible place to live in. That's what has been happening.

U are just confirming d things I said about u earlier that u draw conclusions even without knowledge about a situation, person or persons. because there is a norm, u decided to place me in ur subjective view as to how people on nairaland do certain things. So how can u then prove that u have been objective in d things u have been saying?
Re: South Africa denies Nigeria visa-free status, grants Ghana - Vanguard by XhosaNostra(f): 11:15am On Jul 12
lexy2014:


U are just confirming d things I said about u earlier that u draw conclusions even without knowledge about a situation, person or persons. because there is a norm, u decided to place me in ur subjective view as to how people on nairaland do certain things. So how can u then prove that u have been objective in d things u have been saying?


I drew my conclusion from my interactions here on NL.
Believe whatever you want on the rest.

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Re: South Africa denies Nigeria visa-free status, grants Ghana - Vanguard by lexy2014: 11:22am On Jul 12
XhosaNostra:


I drew my conclusion from my interactions here on NL.
Believe whatever you want on the rest.



And ur conclusions ended up being wrong.
If I may ask, what is d norm u are referring?

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Re: South Africa denies Nigeria visa-free status, grants Ghana - Vanguard by XhosaNostra(f): 11:27am On Jul 12
lexy2014:




And ur conclusions ended up being wrong.
If I may ask, what is d norm u are referring?

Nope. It's been right 9 times out of ten.

What were we discussing? Try to remember. Your memory is horrible.
Re: South Africa denies Nigeria visa-free status, grants Ghana - Vanguard by Angelfrost: 11:31am On Jul 12
Zenlife:


On a large scale, SA owes its apartheid liberation with the aid and intervention of Nigeria. Is this how to acknowledge that noble act?

Methinks high time Nigerians boycott anything SA. DSTv, MTN, Shoprite, et al.

If good for the goose, same should be for the gander.

Boss, is Nigeria under apartheid or at war? Let's not stray from the crux of this discourse, I pray you... You can't expect another country trying to stand firm economically to shoulder the burden of your economy, when you are supposed to be their giant.

On your second point about boycott, the real question is how do you boycott something you depend on? What services match or out-match those of DSTV? What network provider has the reach and quality of MTN?... Who and where will absorb the millions directly and indirectly engaged by these organizations?... Before we talk boycott, we have to truly start by first breaking the monopoly and reliance on them... We still use engineers and technicians from these nations, because our own people prefer to do substandard work and enrich themselves... Do you see it all comes back to my point regarding national introspection?

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Re: South Africa denies Nigeria visa-free status, grants Ghana - Vanguard by lexy2014: 11:36am On Jul 12
XhosaNostra:


Nope. It's been right 9 times out of ten.

What were we discussing? Try to remember. Your memory is horrible.

In d cause of my exchange with u, u have drawn several conclusions & made claims that u couldn't defend or substantiate. So that puts ur 9:10 ratio in serious doubt.

Like I said earlier ur use of foul language or insults don't move me. When I c people who use insults & personal attacks like u do as their only means of communication, its obvious that they have run out things to say
Re: South Africa denies Nigeria visa-free status, grants Ghana - Vanguard by komodapson: 11:51am On Jul 12
kolafolabi:
If not for how Naija be, na South Africa I go con go. God bless Nigeria

Bros I taaya, I'm amazed oftentimes I hear young guyz eager to go to SA...I laugh...what do SA have to offer? If not for their climate and few infrastructure development... Aside from that, the purchasing power of average SA citizen is low and they are not as enterprising as we Nigerians, unemployment is high similar to Nigeria, rent is high.... If not for some few folks(Nigerians) who engages in drug peddling.... Is not a place to be considered

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Re: South Africa denies Nigeria visa-free status, grants Ghana - Vanguard by Zenlife: 11:58am On Jul 12
Angelfrost:


Boss, is Nigeria under apartheid or at war? Let's not stray from the crux of this discourse, I pray you... You can't expect another country trying to stand firm economically to shoulder the burden of your economy, when you are supposed to be their giant.

On your second point about boycott, the real question is how do you boycott something you depend on? What services match or out-match those of DSTV? What network provider has the reach and quality of MTN?... Who and where will absorb the millions directly and indirectly engaged by these organizations?... Before we talk boycott, we have to truly start by first breaking the monopoly and reliance on them... We still use engineers and technicians from these nations, because our own people prefer to do substandard work and enrich themselves... Do you see it all comes back to my point regarding national introspection?


Dependency syndrome.
These things you attach to at the expense of dignity and pride, will it kill Nigerians if they drop it all like a hot tamale?
Nigeria existed and thrived eons before MTN, DSTv, Shoprite et al.
She will continue to do so with the boycott.
China, Japan, Singapore, etc didn't get where they are by being largely dependent on others services.

As a matter of fact, while the boycott may inconvenience many, it may help to look inwards and be more innovative and creative.

I stand for a boycott in light of developments.

Self reliance is key.
Re: South Africa denies Nigeria visa-free status, grants Ghana - Vanguard by komodapson: 12:03pm On Jul 12
ovieigho:
they won’t be able to contain the influx of millions of Nigeria that will emigrate to their country

No be all country gallant like USA o

Hun!!!..."they won't" angry so SA don become Yankee or Aussie... Wey everybody go dey rush too....if no be see finish, wetin Nigerians go dey do for SA
Re: South Africa denies Nigeria visa-free status, grants Ghana - Vanguard by Lionessza6: 12:05pm On Jul 12
Danobi5920:


You are a wicked soul. Stupid to the core . You were roasted by Morpheus24 now you are here talking about Nigeria issues ?. You know that idiot rossik tribe is the reason why Nigeria is like this?. What is the problem of these wicked Zulus?. Who bring you here idiot ?. Nigeria can never be better with rossik people incharge and you idiot no know that but you want to open your hiv mouth and talk ?. Stupid dunce .

grin grin grin . Dude grin grin grin.

How was I roasted ? grin. Can you provide me with a screenshot of this roasting ,?.

Don't get me involved in your tribal mess . My post about the guy still stands, he is one of the few people on this forum who seem to understand what nation building is about and that it starts from within and spreads out . Most of you are always willing to fight yourselves which makes you easy targets for outsiders. But what do I know?. Sigh !.

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Re: South Africa denies Nigeria visa-free status, grants Ghana - Vanguard by Newmans: 12:06pm On Jul 12
It's Good they should deni them there visa couse the killing of Nigerians in s/African is becoming sthing else since the sf government claims they knows nothing about it the only way to prevent it is stop them from coming in or Deni them visa.let them go home there are millions of opportunity here in Nigeria.
Re: South Africa denies Nigeria visa-free status, grants Ghana - Vanguard by Lionessza6: 12:13pm On Jul 12
Zenlife:


On a large scale, SA owes its apartheid liberation with the aid and intervention of Nigeria. Is this how to acknowledge that noble act?

Methinks high time Nigerians boycott anything SA. DSTv, MTN, Shoprite, et al.

If good for the goose, same should be for the gander.

LMFAO, boycott them if you want . Those are private investments enriching individuals, so your boycotting will hurt those individuals not the rest of us . This threat is even getting old and downright pathetic like your first paragraph .
@ the bolded grin grin grin

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Re: South Africa denies Nigeria visa-free status, grants Ghana - Vanguard by Angelfrost: 12:15pm On Jul 12
Zenlife:



Dependency syndrome.
These things you attach to at the expense of dignity and pride, will it kill Nigerians if they drop it all like a hot tamale?
Nigeria existed and thrived eons before MTN, DSTv, Shoprite et al.
She will continue to do so with the boycott.
China, Japan, Singapore, etc didn't get where they are by being largely dependent on others services.

As a matter of fact, while the boycott may inconvenience many, it may help to look inwards and be more innovative and creative.

I stand for a boycott in light of developments.

Self reliance is key.

I equally stand for boycott in the face of an emerging and strong local industry... But, does the latter truly exist? If we can invest and fully grow our local content, this dependence will die off... We achieved it in the cement, sugar, toiletry, and beverage industry... But, how far in the other prominent areas?...

This is why we have to look inwards, and start investing in our nation... This is what my submissions have been about. How can a giant of Africa be depending on a smaller country in the same continent for satellite tv, telecommunication, and upscale malls?... The anomaly is unsettling.
Re: South Africa denies Nigeria visa-free status, grants Ghana - Vanguard by Danobi5920: 12:38pm On Jul 12
Angelfrost:


Sigh... Your choice of words show you up as frustrated... Your frustration stems from desperation... Your desperation probably stems from a lesser desire to join hands to build your nation, than to make it big at the expense of another nation whose citizens and leaders have paid the price...

To your dumb questions: Yes, I have travelled, still travel, and will continue to travel (Quite irrelevant to my submission, and the discourse here).
They do what they please cos the laws in that nation permit them to. If this nation were progressive and the economic giant she's supposed to be, those Nigerians would be working hard here in their own backyard with dignity, and fully protected by Nigeria laws... Do you know what South Americans, Middle Easterners, Asians equally suffer in Europe?...

I have made my salient points... Take up your issues with your spineless and useless Ministry of Foreign affairs, and Nigeria Embassies...

Don't quote me again with pointless and misguided rants.

Shut your wicked mouth Aboki. You people have destroyed the country for well meaning youth , now you talk ?. Wicked tribe of useless terrorists . Imagine supporting this madness by these evil South Africans undecided. What is wrong with you Northerners and Yoruba Muslims?. Break the country, we in the South will show all these devils from the North, South Africa , Ghana and other useless people who we are . Dunce .
Re: South Africa denies Nigeria visa-free status, grants Ghana - Vanguard by Danobi5920: 12:42pm On Jul 12
Lionessza6:


grin grin grin . Dude grin grin grin.

How was I roasted ? grin. Can you provide me with a screenshot of this roasting ,?.

Don't get me involved in your tribal mess . My post about the guy still stands, he is one of the few people on this forum who seem to understand what nation building is about and that it starts from within and spreads out . Most of you are always willing to fight yourselves which makes you easy targets for outsiders. But what do I know?. Sigh !.

Shut up you wicked soul . HIV fall on you. You are pained because we beat you, watched you lose the game on your DSTV and roasted you idiots on social media using your mtn grin. We are your masters forever and you will remain our wife. Lazy dogs .
Re: South Africa denies Nigeria visa-free status, grants Ghana - Vanguard by Danobi5920: 12:45pm On Jul 12
XhosaNostra:


Oh my goodness, why on earth would I want to be you? God forbid bad thing grin

Listen you lazy goat , i know scoring a naija guy would be like winning a nobel prize for you. What are you doing on nairaland if not looking to spread your virus of HIV?. We don't want South Africans, you are too ugly and primitive for us. Idiot.
Re: South Africa denies Nigeria visa-free status, grants Ghana - Vanguard by Lionessza6: 1:07pm On Jul 12
Danobi5920:


Shut up you wicked soul . HIV fall on you. You are pained because we beat you, watched you lose the game on your DSTV and roasted you idiots on social media using your mtn grin. We are your masters forever and you will remain our wife. Lazy dogs .

@The bolded....see self -roasting ? grin

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Re: South Africa denies Nigeria visa-free status, grants Ghana - Vanguard by Zenlife: 1:29pm On Jul 12
Angelfrost:


I equally stand for boycott in the face of an emerging and strong local industry... But, does the latter truly exist? If we can invest and fully grow our local content, this dependence will die off... We achieved it in the cement, sugar, toiletry, and beverage industry... But, how far in the other prominent areas?...

This is why we have to look inwards, and start investing in our nation... This is what my submissions have been about. How can a giant of Africa be depending on a smaller country in the same continent for satellite tv, telecommunication, and upscale malls?... The anomaly is unsettling.


Agreed.
If you use your gold linen as rag,
Others who don't have it may also use it. If nothing at all, to spite you.
Re: South Africa denies Nigeria visa-free status, grants Ghana - Vanguard by Angelfrost: 1:30pm On Jul 12
Danobi5920:


Shut your wicked mouth Aboki. You people have destroyed the country for well meaning youth , now you talk ?. Wicked tribe of useless terrorists . Imagine supporting this madness by these evil South Africans undecided. What is wrong with you Northerners and Yoruba Muslims?. Break the country, we in the South will show all these devils from the North, South Africa , Ghana and other useless people who we are . Dunce .

You shouldn't use words like "Dunce", after ranting so misguidedly... I should probably correct your poor and wrong assertion of my ethnicity, but Honestly, I don't see the point, nor am I interested in engaging you any further...

This is just the beginning of your frustrations... Go and develop yourself, and your bloody community, and stop looking for ready made nations to parasite upon...

I will engage you no longer... Keep yapping like a rabid dog, while more countries prepare to tighten immigration regulations, and further deport your fellow parasites. Now, please, GET LOST!!!

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Re: South Africa denies Nigeria visa-free status, grants Ghana - Vanguard by Angelfrost: 1:33pm On Jul 12
Zenlife:



Agreed.
If you use your gold linen as rag,
Others who don't have it may also use it. If nothing at all, to spite you.

I concur completely. Aptly put. We must change the narrative, and find a way to compel our archaic leaders to embrace change.
Re: South Africa denies Nigeria visa-free status, grants Ghana - Vanguard by Zenlife: 1:36pm On Jul 12
Lionessza6:


LMFAO, boycott them if you want . Those are private investments enriching individuals, so your boycotting will hurt those individuals not the rest of us . This threat is even getting old and downright pathetic like your first paragraph .
@ the bolded grin grin grin

Lol.
Enjoy your dependency syndrome.
Hope It takes you to the "next level"
You can never be as good as an original, long as you copy and dependent.

If it hurts the private investors, it will also directly hurt you. They'll likely fold up in Nigeria, take a walk or regard you better.

That's the idea.
Re: South Africa denies Nigeria visa-free status, grants Ghana - Vanguard by Zenlife: 1:39pm On Jul 12
Angelfrost:


I concur completely. Aptly put. We must change the narrative, and find a way to compel our archaic leaders to embrace change.

Better yet, quit them totally.
Only a fool continues to do same thing and expect different result.

We deserve our 'leaders'.

Unfortunately...
Re: South Africa denies Nigeria visa-free status, grants Ghana - Vanguard by Lionessza6: 1:41pm On Jul 12
Zenlife:


Lol.
Enjoy your dependency syndrome.
Hope It takes you to the "next level"
You can never be as good as an original, long as you copy and dependent.

If it hurts the private investors, it will also directly hurt you. They'll likely fold up in Nigeria, take a walk or regard you better.

That's the idea.

grin grin

Re: South Africa denies Nigeria visa-free status, grants Ghana - Vanguard by liberalchick(f): 1:56pm On Jul 12
Nope. Huge population is not the problem. When a country has more than half of its population living below the poverty line, no country will issue free visas to such country. America’s population is bigger yet its citizens can go visa free to a country with a population the size of Lagos. What’s the difference? If most Nigerians are wealthy enough to spend tourist Naira in SA and come back, even if we are a trillion in Nigeria, SA will issue that free visa.

So instead of Nigerians being mad at SA, we should fix our economy so other countries will want us in their countries.

Rossikk:
Get real people. Nigeria's population is 200 million. Ghana's is 28 million. Granting visa free access to Nigerians to South Africa will lead to heavy migration that that country cannot possibly handle. It makes no sense for them to grant Nigerians visa free access when they still have a huge population of deprived people in SA that need attention. I wouldn't take this personal at all. We are a huge country.

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Re: South Africa denies Nigeria visa-free status, grants Ghana - Vanguard by labani06(m): 3:12pm On Jul 12
Lionessza6:

LMFAO, another dumb post . Not surprising anyways cheesy. We get it .
the wise man says the truth always taste bitter that is why my post pained you
Re: South Africa denies Nigeria visa-free status, grants Ghana - Vanguard by ovieigho(m): 3:43pm On Jul 12
komodapson:


Hun!!!..."they won't" angry so SA don become Yankee or Aussie... Wey everybody go dey rush too....if no be see finish, wetin Nigerians go dey do for SA
Sidon there and still think you are giant of africa
Even with visa check the number of nigerians going to SA

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Re: South Africa denies Nigeria visa-free status, grants Ghana - Vanguard by morpheus24: 4:15pm On Jul 12
lexy2014:


Keep ur emotions in check. Am not moved by ur insults & foul language. I have shown u what u said. U cant go back to check anything cos u are busted. U only succeeded in shooting urself in d foot. Am really grateful that u provided that screenshot cos it only confirmed what I said earlier that south Africa discriminates its fellow Africans. All this emotional outbursts doesn't change d truth as said in d report. U can even c that d report countered d lie u told that African immigrants "forcefully" build illegal structures "everywhere" in SA. Maybe u should read d report a bit more so u can c how ur lies will float to d top.

I have noticed that Xhosa nostra is fund of wiggling his way out of his assertions when asked to explain or defend them by expanding further into the logical steps that took him there.

Hmmm

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Re: South Africa denies Nigeria visa-free status, grants Ghana - Vanguard by morpheus24: 4:21pm On Jul 12
Lionessza6:


grin grin grin . Dude grin grin grin.

How was I roasted ? grin. Can you provide me with a screenshot of this roasting ,?.

Don't get me involved in your tribal mess . My post about the guy still stands, he is one of the few people on this forum who seem to understand what nation building is about and that it starts from within and spreads out . Most of you are always willing to fight yourselves which makes you easy targets for outsiders. But what do I know?. Sigh !.

1. For the record, I don't remember roasting you.

2.You seem to revert to tribal issues concerning Nigeria. A fact but none the less a symptom of our history as opposed to yours which necessitated a coalition of tribes/clans in your country which cannot be in anywhere comparable to the complexity of ethnic identity in West Africa in general. Your country has a smaller set of Ethnic groups who are pretty much offshoots of the same people with mutually intelligible languages and culture which fosters a better chance for cohesion especially when faced with a common enemy.

3. The tribal argument on your part should be dumped as a defense or rebuttal because that is far more complex in our region than yours.

Shikena!

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Re: South Africa denies Nigeria visa-free status, grants Ghana - Vanguard by Monday60655: 4:27pm On Jul 12
legitnow:



Good leaders starts with Nigerians rising against injustice and having principle.

The world and even God recognise this virtue.(Justice and Principles)



You're on point
Re: South Africa denies Nigeria visa-free status, grants Ghana - Vanguard by Lionessza6: 6:49pm On Jul 12
morpheus24:


1. For the record, I don't remember roasting you.

2.You seem to revert to tribal issues concerning Nigeria. A fact but none the less a symptom of our history as opposed to yours which necessitated a coalition of tribes/clans in your country which cannot be in anywhere comparable to the complexity of ethnic identity in West Africa in general. Your country has a smaller set of Ethnic groups who are pretty much offshoots of the same people with mutually intelligible languages and culture which fosters a better chance for cohesion especially when faced with a common enemy.

3. The tribal argument on your part should be dumped as a defense or rebuttal because that is far more complex in our region than yours.

Shikena!

Morpheus are you also getting dizzy on me? grin

1. Where in that post did I use your tribal issues as a rebuttal ?. Wasn't I the one who told the idiot not to get me involved in that mess ?

2. GOD !. It is actually your people who bring in the ethnicity divides of both our countries when I interact with them on this forum , just like that character who qouted me . The only time you will ever see me using your tribal issues as a rebuttal is when some idiot uses the racial politics/divide of my country ( ignorantly )in an argument, while conveniently overlooking the genesis of it all. And ofcourse when they try to act all holly when they lecture us about " African love and peace ".

3. I said I was impressed by rossik's relentless efforts on educating the ignorant bafoons on nairaland about the history of Nigeria and it's possibilities. And that he is a rare germ on the forum because he is not against travelling but encourages responsibility and for those who have no business travelling out to rather focus on building on what they have . This ofcourse gets his arse attacked everytime grin grin grin. . * zoo- lover*, * corrupt buhari supporter* etc. You have a lot of people here who refuse to a knowledge any good about their nation ( themselves ), but are very quick to praise and glorify the most stupid things about other nations . I'm not referring to people with different views about their country , that's normal everywhere.
Re: South Africa denies Nigeria visa-free status, grants Ghana - Vanguard by Ugosample(m): 7:16pm On Jul 12
Danobi5920:


Shut your wicked mouth Aboki. You people have destroyed the country for well meaning youth , now you talk ?. Wicked tribe of useless terrorists . Imagine supporting this madness by these evil South Africans undecided. What is wrong with you Northerners and Yoruba Muslims?. Break the country, we in the South will show all these devils from the North, South Africa , Ghana and other useless people who we are . Dunce .

wow shocked

why are you commenting like this?

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