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Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by koboko69: 7:10pm On Aug 03, 2019
Revolution definition from 2 different dictionaries;

1. rev·o·lu·tion

a forcible overthrow of a government or social order, in favor of a new system.

synonyms: rebellion, revolt, insurrection, mutiny, uprising, riot, rioting, rising, insurgence, insurgency, coup, overthrow, seizure of power, regime change;

2. : a sudden, radical, or complete change
a fundamental change in political organization

especially : the overthrow or renunciation of one government or ruler and the substitution of another by the governed

While I am strongly in support of freedom of speech and association, I really don't think any government in the world wouldn't act on organizers of a protest which have been widely publicised as a "REVOLUTION" protest.

In my PERSONAL opinion, a better adjective or word should have been used for the so called protest.

Occupy Nigeria is a good example
The 2 face 1 million march which he later called off is another.

Whats your take?

This is coming on the heels of the purported arrest of Sowere.

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Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by gidgiddy: 7:24pm On Aug 03, 2019
koboko69:
Revolution definition from 2 different dictionaries;

1. rev·o·lu·tion

a forcible overthrow of a government or social order, in favor of a new system.

synonyms: rebellion, revolt, insurrection, mutiny, uprising, riot, rioting, rising, insurgence, insurgency, coup, overthrow, seizure of power, regime change;

2. : a sudden, radical, or complete change
a fundamental change in political organization

especially : the overthrow or renunciation of one government or ruler and the substitution of another by the governed

While I am strongly in support of freedom of speech and association, I really don't think any government in the world wouldn't act on organizers of a protest which have been widely publicised as a "REVOLUTION" protest.

In my PERSONAL opinion, a better adjective or word should have been used for the so called protest.

Occupy Nigeria is a good example
The 2 face 1 million march which he later called off is another.

Whats your take?

This is coming on the heels of the purported arrest of Sowere.



There is just one thing you are missing. It is not possible for unarmed people to overthrow a government.


Freedom to protest is very essential in a democracy, without it, it is no longer democracy you are practicing

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Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by koboko69: 7:28pm On Aug 03, 2019
gidgiddy:



There is just one thing you are missing. It is not possible for unarmed people to overthrow a government.


Freedom to protest is very essential in a democracy, without it, it is no longer democracy you are practicing

Revolutions always start with unarmed protesters, then violence, then some armed group and politicians hijack it....that's how it all starts!

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Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by gidgiddy: 7:39pm On Aug 03, 2019
koboko69:


Revolutions always start with unarmed protesters, then violence, then some armed group and politicians hijack it....that's how it all starts!

That's like saying that all young boys should be shot because an armed robber first starts off as young boy, grows into a man, takes up arms and starts robbing people.

Should we kill all young boys because of the possibility that some of them could be armed robbers in the future? No, that would be very stupid. That's how stupid your argument is

Freedom of expression and protest is enshrined in section 39 of the Nigerian constitution. The authorities are bound by law to allow people to freely protest. If the protest turns violent, then the authorities can move in and arrest the violent protesters. That is how civilised countries act

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Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by koboko69: 7:45pm On Aug 03, 2019
gidgiddy:


That's like saying that all young boys should be shot because an armed robber first starts off as young boy, grows into a man, takes up arms and starts robbing people.

Should we kill all young boys because of the possibility that some of them could be armed robbers in the future? No, that would be very stupid. That's how stupid your argument is

Freedom of expression and protest is enshrined in section 39 of the Nigerian constitution. The authorities are bound by law to allow people to freely protest. If the protest turns violent, then the authorities can move in and arrest the violent protesters. That is how civilised countries act

Your analysis and example is way of off. Occupy Nigeria started as a normal protest.....then gradually it was turning intp something else....guess what the government did? They deployed soldiers everywhere...is that a lie? Freedom of expression with peaceful protest is different from a revolution.
Like i said b4, no government will watch someone call for a revolution against her government

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Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by KidsNEXTdoor: 7:47pm On Aug 03, 2019
Supporters of Evil will look for a way to justify the terrorist in power

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Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by Afamsi: 7:52pm On Aug 03, 2019
In FULANITOCRACY- A system of government where a clueless and senseless fulani is the president, Human Right does not exist.

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Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by koboko69: 8:00pm On Aug 03, 2019
Afamsi:
In FULANITOCRACY- A system of government where a clueless and senseless fulani is the president, Human Right is non existent.
Some of u have really short memories or let me say deliberate amnesia. Was it a fulani government that deployed soldiers during occupy Nigeria, was it a Fulani Government that deployed soldiers nationwide to sieze newspapers and invade newsmedia houses? Weather fulanuli, yoruba or igbo government, will the government sit and watch someone threaten a rovolution? Stick to the topic and stop all these childish rants.
KidsNEXTdoor:
Supporters of Evil will look for a way to justify the terrorist in power



Unfortunately this does not answer the question

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Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by Afamed: 8:00pm On Aug 03, 2019
By Monday, dem go open first bank account for donations in kind and cash for their revolution. Maga must chop. If you know you know

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Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by Afamed: 8:01pm On Aug 03, 2019
koboko69:

Some of u have really short memories or let me say deliberate amnesia. Was it a fulani government that deployed soldiers during occupy Nigeria, was it a Fulani Government that deployed soldiers nationwide to sieze newspapers and invade newsmedia houses? Weather fulanuli, yoruba or igbo government, will the government sit and watch someone threaten a rovolution? Stick to the topic and stop all these childish rants.

Unfortunately this does not answer the question
Ignore them, let them wail a little

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Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by WiLdFLame(m): 8:05pm On Aug 03, 2019
Only jobless and unpatriotic support this shits. No sane Yoruba is supporting Sowore. Because we don’t destroy. We build and negotiate. Now Sowore is being supported by the Ibos. Dem don hijack am because they hate buhari with passion. You igbos has always been making bad political decisions in the contemporary. If you ipobs wants revolution. Good and fine . Take it to southeast. Let the second Biafra war start and the little development there be destroyed. It's for the better of Southwest. Shebi una talk say una wan no wise ba. I don't know why the igbos hates Buhari much. When your kinsmen was there why una no Organise revolution. You all shouting revolution. Go and start with your family first. Then come back latter if you want it not .

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Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by Afamed: 8:08pm On Aug 03, 2019
"I'm not talking of protest. I'm embarking on revolution. 85% of Nigerians are in support. Don't tell me about legal implications or what a Judge will say. I don't care. We must bundle Buhari out of that place...."

Omoyele Sowore....... July 25, 2019.

Exhibit C!

Sowore go suffer for prison. Planning to overthrow a legitimate government

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Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by izombie(m): 8:15pm On Aug 03, 2019
WiLdFLame:
Only jobless and unpatriotic support this shits. If you ipobs wants revolution. Good and fine . Take it to southeast. Let the second Biafra war start and the little development there be destroyed. It's for the better of Southwest. Shebi una talk say una wan no wise ba. I don't know why the igbos hates Buhari much.
you had to drag igbos into this again. What concerns the igbos with this thread? Are igbos planning any protest or revolution now? I don't knlw why you people keep saying igbos hate buhari. Igbos do not hate buhari, we just know him for who he is and what he stands for. And so far, buhari's actions have justified the stand of igbos. Violence and death give buhari a hard on.
Enjoy your next level.

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Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by izombie(m): 8:17pm On Aug 03, 2019
Afamed:
"I'm not talking of protest. I'm embarking on revolution. 85% of Nigerians are in support. Don't tell me about legal implications or what a Judge will say. I don't care. We must bundle Buhari out of that place...."

Omoyele Sowore....... July 25, 2019.

Exhibit C!

Sowore go suffer for prison. Planning to overthrowi a legitimate government
but i thought your pay masters said they arrested him to save him from setting himself on fire.

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Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by koboko69: 8:33pm On Aug 03, 2019
izombie:
but i thought your pay masters said they arrested him to save him from setting himself on fire.

Every government get packaging !

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Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by gidgiddy: 8:44pm On Aug 03, 2019
koboko69:


Your analysis and example is way of off. Occupy Nigeria started as a normal protest.....then gradually it was turning intp something else....guess what the government did? They deployed soldiers everywhere...is that a lie? Freedom of expression with peaceful protest is different from a revolution.
Like i said b4, no government will watch someone call for a revolution against her government



Exactly, you allow people to protest then if the protest turns violent, then you can call in the Army to restore law and order.

This has nothing to do with overthrowing government. When Sowore was calling for a revolution, he said he wants people to come out and join him in protest against the direction Nigeria is heading. He never said anything about taking up arms or being violent.

Arresting Sowore because he mentioned the word 'revolution' would be tantamount to arresting people simply for talking.

Only somebody armed can overthrow a government. So if Sowore and his group are not armed and only want to on a protest which they call 'revolution', then arresting him is only because he talked.

We are in a democracy where people have freedom of speech. The authorities should not be arresting people for merely talking. That is very bad and takes us back to the days of the military where saying the wrong words could land one in jail

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Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by Afamsi: 8:49pm On Aug 03, 2019
Unfortunately other tribes are just seeing what Igbos saw 4 years ago. Igbo amaka

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Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by yomi96(m): 9:04pm On Aug 03, 2019
Na 30k they work magic like this? Dude your divisive tactics is dead on arrival

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Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by koboko69: 9:13pm On Aug 03, 2019
gidgiddy:


Exactly, you allow people to protest then if the protest turns violent, then you can call in the Army to restore law and order.

This has nothing to do with overthrowing government. When Sowore was calling for a revolution, he said he wants people to come out and join him in protest against the direction Nigeria is heading. He never said anything about taking up arms or being violent.

Arresting Sowore because he mentioned the word 'revolution' would be tantamount to arresting people simply for talking.

Only somebody armed can overthrow a government. So if Sowore and his group are not armed and only want to on a protest which they call 'revolution', then arresting him is only because he talked.

We are in a democracy where people have freedom of speech. The authorities should not be arresting people for merely talking. That is very bad and takes us back to the days of the military where saying the wrong words could land one in jail


This is Sowere's exacts words


"I'm not talking of protest. I'm embarking on revolution. 85% of Nigerians are in support. Don't tell me about legal implications or what a Judge will say. I don't care. We must bundle Buhari out of that place...."


The clear definition of Revolution is clearly written up there...

Trying to water it down or use ur own narative to suit yiur personal opinions wouldnt change the facts or meaning of a revolution. Again no sane government will watch someone mobilize for a revolution against her government

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Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by adekolaelect(m): 9:15pm On Aug 03, 2019
KidsNEXTdoor:
Supporters of Evil will look for a way to justify the terrorist in power


message without meaningful ingredients is trash .

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Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by splendour7(m): 9:42pm On Aug 03, 2019
WiLdFLame:
Only jobless and unpatriotic support this shits. If you ipobs wants revolution. Good and fine . Take it to southeast. Let the second Biafra war start and the little development there be destroyed. It's for the better of Southwest. Shebi una talk say una wan no wise ba. I don't know why the igbos hates Buhari much.
do You Have Brain At All? I Mean An Atom Of Brain In That Thick Skull Of Yours,just Tiny Brain I Mean..

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Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by gidgiddy: 10:04pm On Aug 03, 2019
koboko69:


This is Sowere's exacts words


"I'm not talking of protest. I'm embarking on revolution. 85% of Nigerians are in support. Don't tell me about legal implications or what a Judge will say. I don't care. We must bundle Buhari out of that place...."


The clear definition of Revolution is clearly written up there...

Trying to water it down or use ur own narative to suit yiur personal opinions wouldnt change the facts or meaning of a revolution. Again no sane government will watch someone mobilize for a revolution against her government


You still dont get it. We are in a democracy. People should be allowed to say whatever they like. What matters is what people do. You cannot charge a person to court for 'talking'. If Sowore likes, he can protest that he wants Buhari to step down. If Sowore likes , he can protest that he wants Snow to fall in Lagos. The constitution has given him the right to protest for whatever reason. The constitution has also given him the right of free speech as long as what he says is not being used to commit crime. If the authorities have any evidence that Sowore wants to use the protest to fo something unlawful, then they should arrest and charge him to court

But if the authorities arrested him because he mentioned the word 'revolution' or that he said he wants 'bundle Buhari out of office' then this arresting a man for merely talking.

If governments start going after people for what they said, as opposed to what they do, then it is no longer democracy, it is dictatorship.

If you cannot understand all this and still insist that the government is right to go after Sowore because of the words he used then it means you dont understand democracy and how it works

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Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by Zangazanga: 10:05pm On Aug 03, 2019
Don't mind them. Same people that supported the govt previously.

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Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by midolian(m): 10:32pm On Aug 03, 2019
gidgiddy:


You still dont get it. We are in a democracy. People should be allowed to say whatever they like. What matters is what people do. You cannot charge a person to court for 'talking'. If Sowore likes, he can protest that he wants Buhari to step down. If Sowore likes , he can protest that he wants Snow to fall in Lagos. The constitution has given him the right to protest for whatever reason. The constitution has also given him the right of free speech as long as what he says is not being used to commit crime. If the authorities have any evidence that Sowore wants to use the protest to fo something unlawful, then they should arrest and charge him to court

But if the authorities arrested him because he mentioned the word 'revolution' or that he said he wants 'bundle Buhari out of office' then this arresting a man for merely talking.

If governments start going after people for what they said, as opposed to what they do, then it is no longer democracy, it is dictatorship.

If you cannot understand all this and still insist that the government is right to go after Sowore because of the words he used then it means you dont understand democracy and how it works

Rqbbish!!
Myopic!!


So if a group of people write the CBN they are coming to rob, you expect the government to sit and watch when they know the identity of these people just because we are in a democratic setting?

And when they come to rob and the incidence claim lives and properties, it is you and your people that will blame the government for being too "slow"

Bokoharam started with the ideology of Western Education is a sin..it started like they were preaching the gospel...see where we are today!
If the government had done the needful when the movement was a baby, only God knows if we would be having any boko nightmare now...

My point is "Prevention is far better than cure"

Some of these systems were never designed for the black man.

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Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by J111333(m): 10:59pm On Aug 03, 2019
WiLdFLame:
Only jobless and unpatriotic support this shits. If you ipobs wants revolution. Good and fine . Take it to southeast. Let the second Biafra war start and the little development there be destroyed. It's for the better of Southwest. Shebi una talk say una wan no wise ba. I don't know why the igbos hates Buhari much.
Are Sowore and Eedris Igbos now? What concerns the Igbos with your revolution?
You people enthroned the disaster Buhari and the same you guys are planning a revolution against him but you're calling Igbos as if we the giant Tunde Bakare saw in his dream is already oppressing you. Enwe. undecided

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Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by koboko69: 11:22pm On Aug 03, 2019
gidgiddy:


You still dont get it. We are in a democracy. People should be allowed to say whatever they like. What matters is what people do. You cannot charge a person to court for 'talking'. If Sowore likes, he can protest that he wants Buhari to step down. If Sowore likes , he can protest that he wants Snow to fall in Lagos. The constitution has given him the right to protest for whatever reason. The constitution has also given him the right of free speech as long as what he says is not being used to commit crime. If the authorities have any evidence that Sowore wants to use the protest to fo something unlawful, then they should arrest and charge him to court

But if the authorities arrested him because he mentioned the word 'revolution' or that he said he wants 'bundle Buhari out of office' then this arresting a man for merely talking.

If governments start going after people for what they said, as opposed to what they do, then it is no longer democracy, it is dictatorship.

If you cannot understand all this and still insist that the government is right to go after Sowore because of the words he used then it means you dont understand democracy and how it works

Chia...i just dey waste my time ....
All this your analysis ehn. cheesy

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Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by gidgiddy: 12:36am On Aug 04, 2019
midolian:


Rqbbish!!
Myopic!!


So if a group of people write the CBN they are coming to rob, you expect the government to sit and watch when they know the identity of these people just because we are in a democratic setting?

And when they come to rob and the incidence claim lives and properties, it is you and your people that will blame the government for being too "slow"


Use your brains. Which group would plan to rob CBN then first inform them that they are coming? You really thing that a group that truly wants to rob a federal institution like CBN would warn CBN ahead so they can put adequate security measures in place?

I dont know what this has to do with the fact that Sowore called for a mass protest, which the constitution allows him to do, and he was arrested for it.

Bokoharam started with the ideology of Western Education is a sin..it started like they were preaching the gospel...see where we are today!
If the government had done the needful when the movement was a baby, only God knows if we would be having any boko nightmare now...

Some of these systems were never designed for the black man.

It may interest you to know that it was the Federal Government that made Boko haram what it is today. Boko haram started as a protest group that was against Western education. Rather than your government to engage them, they rushed in, captured their leader Dikko Yusuf and several members, slaughtered them in broad daylight. What did that achieve? Shekau took over, armed what was left of them and started fighting Nigeria.

Today, over 200,000 Nigerians are dead, millions are displaced and billions of Naira that Nigeria could have used for other things have been spent fighting boko haram for the last 10 years

All for what? If the government had engaged Boko haram in dialogue when they were just protesting against western education, we may not have been in this situation. If government had killed Nnamdi Kanu or El Zakzaky when they came for them, some of their followers would have taken up arms like Boko haram. We keep repeating the same mistakes. Now it is Sowore, just because he wants to protest against government

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Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by koboko69: 1:00am On Aug 04, 2019
gidgiddy:


Use your brains. Which group would plan to rob CBN then first inform them that they are coming? You really thing that a group that truly wants to rob a federal institution like CBN would warn CBN ahead so they can put adequate security measures in place?

I dont know what this has to do with the fact that Sowore called for a mass protest, which the constitution allows him to do, and he was arrested for it.



It may interest you to know that it was the Federal Government that made Boko haram what it is today. Boko haram started as a protest group that was against Western education. Rather than your government to engage them, they rushed in, captured their leader Dikko Yusuf and several members, slaughtered them in broad daylight. What did that achieve? Shekau took over, armed what was left of them and started fighting Nigeria.

Today, over 200,000 Nigerians are dead, millions are displaced and billions of Naira that Nigeria could have used for other things have been spent fighting boko haram for the last 10 years

All for what? If the government had engaged Boko haram in dialogue when they were just protesting against western education, we may not have been in this situation. If government had killed Nnamdi Kanu or El Zakzaky when they came for them, some of their followers would have taken up arms like Boko haram. We keep repeating the same mistakes. Now it is Sowore, just because he wants to protest against government

Na your village 200k people die abi. Do u even know ehat 200k lives is? U just dey yap nonsense. If the useless PDP government had tackled all this issues when it all started.....it wont be a full blown epidemic we see today.

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Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by boldaslion: 2:45am On Aug 04, 2019
koboko69:


This is Sowere's exacts words


"I'm not talking of protest. I'm embarking on revolution. 85% of Nigerians are in support. Don't tell me about legal implications or what a Judge will say. I don't care. We must bundle Buhari out of that place...."


The clear definition of Revolution is clearly written up there...

Trying to water it down or use ur own narative to suit yiur personal opinions wouldnt change the facts or meaning of a revolution. Again no sane government will watch someone mobilize for a revolution against her government


And in your small mind now you think that his arrest will stop the impending catastrophe about befalling the Zoo?

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Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by koboko69: 3:31am On Aug 04, 2019
boldaslion:

And in your small mind now you think that his arrest will stop the impending catastrophe about befalling the Zoo?


About to befall ur imaginary Biafra. When they create go fund me funds for the "REVOLUTION" make sure u donate ur small change

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Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by Tumbulum: 7:52am On Aug 04, 2019
WiLdFLame:
Only jobless and unpatriotic support this shits. If you ipobs wants revolution. Good and fine . Take it to southeast. Let the second Biafra war start and the little development there be destroyed. It's for the better of Southwest. Shebi una talk say una wan no wise ba. I don't know why the igbos hates Buhari much.
don't live in a dream land bro. Any war fought in today's Nigeria will not be like that Nigeria Biafra war. Other Nigeria ethnic nationalities are wising up.
You people have a way of bringing the Igbo tribe in anything. This go a long way to show how the Igbo hate unite all of you.

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Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by helinues: 8:17am On Aug 04, 2019
We should ask those who couldn't did the revolutions with their votes ( best peaceful way) but decides to go into violent way..

A revolution that thugs and miscreants will hijacked.

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