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Re: Is She Saying The Truth About Winners Chapel by CodeTemplar: 7:55am On Aug 15
LordReed:


That heaven, hell and rapture are not a regular subject of preaching in Winners?
If just those you mentioned is what you are talking about then. I see no biggie in not giving attention to them by Winners Chapel. I prefer they way they preach things like righteousness, godliness, wisdom, divine direction, redemption, restitution among others than heaven, hell and rapture.
Re: Is She Saying The Truth About Winners Chapel by judedwriter(m): 8:21am On Aug 15
CodeTemplar:
prosperity covers your soul, health, your ways and even the church. Zach 1:17.
Also 3 john 1:2.

As far as I know, they preach repentance, salvation almost all services and also preach restitution from time to time. Maybe they don't declare a whole month exclusively for those but they do preach them. for me, rapture when preached often is a doctrine for holier than thou churches. I go for sanctification over rapture.

holier than thou churches grin LOL.
Re: Is She Saying The Truth About Winners Chapel by LordReed(m): 8:27am On Aug 15
CodeTemplar:
If just those you mentioned is what you are talking about then. I see no biggie in not giving attention to them by Winners Chapel. I prefer they way they preach things like righteousness, godliness, wisdom, divine direction, redemption, restitution among others than heaven, hell and rapture.

Good, at least you agree that that part of her assessment was correct.
Re: Is She Saying The Truth About Winners Chapel by Anas09: 8:28am On Aug 15
jesusjnr:
Antichrist and witch that comes in sheep clothing thinks she has anything to do with blessings of God, Lol!

Very funny.

Luke 11:28 (KJV)

But he said, Yea rather, blessed are they that hear the word of God, and keep it.

p.s. Jesus is the Word of God not the Bible! {John 1:1}
May the blessings you hate never come to you nau. No be weytin make you dey criticise Winners Chapel?

You go church Na only blessing dem dey talk about. But, to say weda na during Testimonies time or message, you run and say you n go answer me, but dey respond to all my posts.


May blessings ellude you as you hate them.
Re: Is She Saying The Truth About Winners Chapel by Anas09: 8:29am On Aug 15
jesusjnr:
The Devil in woman form!
Nicolai the demon's possessed teaching heresies in NL.
Re: Is She Saying The Truth About Winners Chapel by Anas09: 8:30am On Aug 15
jesusjnr:

This is my response to mammon-worshipping Nairaland Jezebel the witch, a rapist and rape advocate who comes in sheep clothing to deceive the gullible!
May the blessings of the Lord you hate ellude you. Nicolai
Re: Is She Saying The Truth About Winners Chapel by paxonel(m): 8:35am On Aug 15
pfadom:
Over to you my peeps. This lady seems to making sense of what she had seen, heard or known of some members of the church.
the lady is not making sense at all.
Me, I cannot go to winners and my reasons are more genuine.
What the lady put up there are very ridiculous reasons.
Re: Is She Saying The Truth About Winners Chapel by Anas09: 8:40am On Aug 15
EVILFOREST:

So after reading through such a CRITICAL THINKING WRITE UP, this is the soured stuff you could come up with..??
LATER, U start blaming BUHARI....
What is critical about what you wrote there?

Lolzzzzzzzzzz.
Re: Is She Saying The Truth About Winners Chapel by Anas09: 8:44am On Aug 15
LordReed:


Of course they can't but how does that remove from the facts on ground?
what are the facts on ground?
Re: Is She Saying The Truth About Winners Chapel by Anas09: 8:46am On Aug 15
LordReed:


That heaven, hell and rapture are not a regular subject of preaching in Winners?
How can rapture be preached if not through urgent soul winning as we've been doing since 2015.
Re: Is She Saying The Truth About Winners Chapel by LordReed(m): 8:59am On Aug 15
Anas09:

what are the facts on ground?

Already answered.
Re: Is She Saying The Truth About Winners Chapel by LordReed(m): 9:01am On Aug 15
Anas09:

How can rapture be preached if not through urgent soul winning as we've been doing since 2015.

Can you take a picture of this year's prophetic declaration and show us where rapture was mentioned in relation to soul winning?
Re: Is She Saying The Truth About Winners Chapel by Anas09: 9:01am On Aug 15
CodeTemplar:
If just those you mentioned is what you are talking about then. I see no biggie in not giving attention to them by Winners Chapel. I prefer they way they preach things like righteousness, godliness, wisdom, divine direction, redemption, restitution among others than heaven, hell and rapture.
Funny enough there's no way all you mentioned (which are the Pillars of Winners Chapel),will be preached without preaching Holiness, repentance and restitution, that they so much shout about.

They want it preached, but after hearing it, they go home and continue in their sins S tho it was never preached.

Financial Fortune is the focus for this month, but Yesterday, my Resident pastor, preaching financial fortune hinged so much on the things that will make us not be financially empowered by God. You want to prosper as a Christian? Don't do these;

1. Stealing (He emphasized on stealing as tho the message was about stealing)
2. Lying in business.
3. Cheating others.
4. Not paying those who work for you.
5. Refusing to pay your debts.
6. Giving and taking bribes.
7. Being stingy both to God, your parents and everyone around you.
8. Ungratefulness to God.
9. Unfaithfulness in tithing.
10. Idleness/laziness.
11. Lack of diligence.
12. Poor saving culture.
13. Lack of faith in God (Doubting)

These were the subtopics he dwelled on. But, the Message was 'Financial Fortune'

Anyone who heard 'Financial Fortune' and walk passed will conclude they're talking about prosperity, not knowing that it's much more than that.
Re: Is She Saying The Truth About Winners Chapel by jesusjnr(m): 9:03am On Aug 15
Anas09:

May the blessings you hate never come to you nau. No be weytin make you dey criticise Winners Chapel?

You go church Na only blessing dem dey talk about. But, to say weda na during Testimonies time or message, you run and say you n go answer me, but dey respond to all my posts.


May blessings ellude you as you hate them.
Yes oh, May the blessings of witches and mammon and all his worshippers elude me in the name of Jesus! Amen, amen and amen!!!!!!!!!!!!!

For the blessings which is not hinged upon the obedience of the Word of God is a curse for even the Satanists have much such blessings yet they are cursed.

Any blessings is not hinged upon my obedience of the Word of God as is stated by Jesus in Luke 11:28, that the armed robbers, serial rapistswink, frausters, ritual killers, serial adulterers, etc., would just have to say Amen to receive without turning away from their wicked way, I reject in Jesus name!

Tufiakwa, no be for my head, back to sender, God forbid for such antichrist blessings.

I don't follow blessings, I follow the Blesser by keeping His Word, and His blessings follow me wherever I go.

jesusjnr:


Luke 11:28 (KJV)

But he said, Yea rather, blessed are they that hear the word of God, and keep it.
{John 1:1}
Re: Is She Saying The Truth About Winners Chapel by jesusjnr(m): 9:15am On Aug 15
Anas09:

Nicolai the demon's possessed teaching heresies in NL.
Lol!

And God Himself would yet come to my defense in that thread via tongues given to the Op when agents of the devil like you thought they were fighting for Him by attacking me?

Shame on the devil using you to attack God's servant for failing woefully. Shame on you that the devil used in his failed attempt.

I told you to stop the praise I get from heaven and not just that of men, for that which I got from the men who you were trying to stop is nothing compared to that which I get from above.

But you can see what I meant when God Himself spoke for me, and if God be for me, who can be against me?

Well you can only try to your own peril, witch!
Re: Is She Saying The Truth About Winners Chapel by Anas09: 9:17am On Aug 15
LordReed:


Good, at least you agree that that part of her assessment was correct.
I will not say she's correct, because just like me before I joined I thought the same thing too. But, when I went inside, I saw differently.

The way Living Faith preach the Word of God is exceptional.

One cannot claim laxity there when they teach you the Word the way they do.

Let's take Love for example. If the Running Theme/Series is Love, for four Sundays all that'll be preached is Love. Every scripture that relates to love is brought out and analyzed. Examples will be given to you of the power of Love, the efficacy of Love, the nature and activities if love.

The benefits will be given to you, the dangers of not loving will be given to you. Who to Love, how to show love.

The acts of love will be given to you. The things you do which does not constitute love are given to.

You'd hear this in Covenant Hour of prayer every day of that month.
You'd hear it in the evenings during prayer raids.

You'd hear it in your Cell meetings.

You'd hear it in your Unit meetings.

Anything that gathers the brethren for that month, it is Love related discourse that shall be heard.

So, if you attend Church three times in that month, you'd think, these people don't talk about anything else but Love.

Tell me anyone who will be consistent in all of these services who'd come out to say what they say here. People like this go to church once in a month. lol.

People just believe what other people say about others and maintain a wrong stand about others.

I no blame them sha. I was there.

Today, I'm even shaky as to whether I can marry outside winners Chapel. I want to marry a man who hears what I hear, prays how I pray and is zealous for souls as I do.
Re: Is She Saying The Truth About Winners Chapel by jesusjnr(m): 9:20am On Aug 15
Anas09:

May the blessings of the Lord you hate ellude you. Nicolai
Why not stop me from keep the Word of God for that's the only way you can possibly stop the blessings of the Lord from following me or anyone who keeps it.

jesusjnr:


Luke 11:28 (KJV)

But he said, Yea rather, blessed are they that hear the word of God, and keep it.
{John 1:1}


But you can keep your mammonic and witchcraft blessings for it's an abomination to me.
Re: Is She Saying The Truth About Winners Chapel by Anas09: 9:26am On Aug 15
LordReed:


Already answered.
Yeah, i saw.
Re: Is She Saying The Truth About Winners Chapel by Anas09: 9:36am On Aug 15
LordReed:


Can you take a picture of this year's prophetic declaration and show us where rapture was mentioned in relation to soul winning?
It's not like that. It's not Captured in the Caption, it's in the body of teachings.

The Prophetic Theme/Series for this month is Financially Fortunes. It teaches believers how to do business in a Kingdom way. How to apply
Kingdom Financial Principles. How they work. How to profit from the Word.

What did Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Job and the rest did to become giants in their days?

What we as Christians should not get involved in when doing business.

If we compromise and sin while doing business, you have transgressed the commandments of God.

If you steal to get ahead, if you lie to get ahead, if you give and take bribes to get ahead, if people work for you but you refuse to pay them. You are working for satan not God. Repent, restitute and do the right thing if you want God to prosper you.

So, you see? It's not in the Caption, go deeper.
Re: Is She Saying The Truth About Winners Chapel by Anas09: 9:40am On Aug 15
LordReed:


Can you take a picture of this year's prophetic declaration and show us where rapture was mentioned in relation to soul winning?
But why are we so out on the streets winning souls for the kingdom if we don't have Rapture in view?

We pray for God to release reaper Angels into the field to prepare the minds of the lost to attend to our calls as we go to them. Why do we do that? Is it to just fill the Church?
Re: Is She Saying The Truth About Winners Chapel by Anas09: 9:42am On Aug 15
jesusjnr:
Yes oh, May the blessings of witches and mammon and all his worshippers elude me in the name of Jesus! Amen, amen and amen!!!!!!!!!!!!!

For the blessings which is not hinged upon the obedience of the Word of God is a curse for even the Satanists have much such blessings yet they are cursed.

Any blessings is not hinged upon my obedience of the Word of God as is stated by Jesus in Luke 11:28, that the armed robbers, serial rapistswink, frausters, ritual killers, serial adulterers, etc., would just have to say Amen to receive without turning away from their wicked way, I reject in Jesus name!

Tufiakwa, no be for my head, back to sender, God forbid for such antichrist blessings.

I don't follow blessings, I follow the Blesser by keeping His Word, and His blessings follow me wherever I go.

People are preaching the gospel of the Kingdom, this thief is everywhere throwing his demonic spitttle. Geraut Nicolai.
Re: Is She Saying The Truth About Winners Chapel by LordReed(m): 9:43am On Aug 15
Anas09:

It's not like that. It's not Captured in the Caption, it's in the body of teachings.

The Prophetic Theme/Series for this month is Financially Fortunes. It teaches believers how to do business in a Kingdom way. How to apply
Kingdom Financial Principles. How they work. How to profit from the Word.

What did Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Job and the rest did to become giants in their days?

What we as Christians should not get involved in when doing business.

If we compromise and sin while doing business, you have transgressed the commandments of God.

If you steal to get ahead, if you lie to get ahead, if you give and take bribes to get ahead, if people work for you but you refuse to pay them. You are working for satan not God. Repent, restitute and do the right thing if you want God to prosper you.

So, you see? It's not in the Caption, go deeper.

The person in question in the OP says Winners does not teach regularly about heaven, hell and rapture. Unless you have specific examples of regular teachings of these subjects, you are not doing anything to counter the statement.
Re: Is She Saying The Truth About Winners Chapel by LordReed(m): 9:45am On Aug 15
Anas09:

But why are we so out on the streets winning souls for the kingdom if we don't have Rapture in view?

We pray for God to release reaper Angels into the field to prepare the minds of the lost to attend to our calls as we go to them. Why do we do that? Is it to just fill the Church?


That is exactly the purpose, to fill the churches.
Re: Is She Saying The Truth About Winners Chapel by Anas09: 9:48am On Aug 15
LordReed:


The person in question in the OP says Winners does not teach regularly about heaven, hell and rapture. Unless you have specific examples of regular teachings of these subjects, you are not doing anything to counter the statement.
How did she know that when she is not a committed member?

I just gave you an example how the gospel is being preached in LFC and how what she said is inculcated into the messages. How will she know that these messages are not regularly preached if she never listens to the messages?
Re: Is She Saying The Truth About Winners Chapel by Anas09: 9:54am On Aug 15
LordReed:


That is exactly the purpose, to fill the churches.
Well, I can't and won't do anything to counter your opinions.
For one thing I know that is that Bishop Oyedepo is doing what Jesus commanded him to do.

Luke 14:23 And the lord said unto the servant, Go out into the highways and hedges, and compel them to come in, that my house may be filled.
If you criticize him for carrying out this mandate, then you shd ask yourself who who you're working for.
Re: Is She Saying The Truth About Winners Chapel by LordReed(m): 9:54am On Aug 15
Anas09:

How did she know that when she is not a committed member?

I just gave you an example how the gospel is being preached in LFC and how what she said is inculcated into the messages. How will she know that these messages are not regularly preached if she never listens to the messages?

This is called equivocation, nowhere was it claimed that the gospel is not being preached. I attend Winners every Sunday and I am in agreement with her assessment. There was a broadcast this past Monday, was heaven, hell or rapture mentioned during the broadcast?
Re: Is She Saying The Truth About Winners Chapel by LordReed(m): 9:55am On Aug 15
Anas09:

Well, I can't and won't do anything to counter your options.
For one thing I know that is that Bishop Oyedepo is doing what Jesus commanded him to do.

Luke 14:23 And the lord said unto the servant, Go out into the highways and hedges, and compel them to come in, that my house may be filled.
If you criticize him for carrying out this mandate, then you shd ask yourself who who you're working for.


LoL! How did I criticize him? By stating the facts?
Re: Is She Saying The Truth About Winners Chapel by LordReed(m): 9:57am On Aug 15
Anas09:

I will not say she's correct, because just like me before I joined I thought the same thing too. But, when I went inside, I saw differently.

The way Living Faith preach the Word of God is exceptional.

One cannot claim laxity there when they teach you the Word the way they do.

Let's take Love for example. If the Running Theme/Series is Love, for four Sundays all that'll be preached is Love. Every scripture that relates to love is brought out and analyzed. Examples will be given to you of the power of Love, the efficacy of Love, the nature and activities if love.

The benefits will be given to you, the dangers of not loving will be given to you. Who to Love, how to show love.

The acts of love will be given to you. The things you do which does not constitute love are given to.

You'd hear this in Covenant Hour of prayer every day of that month.
You'd hear it in the evenings during prayer raids.

You'd hear it in your Cell meetings.

You'd hear it in your Unit meetings.

Anything that gathers the brethren for that month, it is Love related discourse that shall be heard.

So, if you attend Church three times in that month, you'd think, these people don't talk about anything else but Love.

Tell me anyone who will be consistent in all of these services who'd come out to say what they say here. People like this go to church once in a month. lol.

People just believe what other people say about others and maintain a wrong stand about others.

I no blame them sha. I was there.

Today, I'm even shaky as to whether I can marry outside winners Chapel. I want to marry a man who hears what I hear, prays how I pray and is zealous for souls as I do.

You just seem to divert to things that are not the issue being discussed. How does any of this answer the question?
Re: Is She Saying The Truth About Winners Chapel by CodeTemplar: 10:00am On Aug 15
Anas09:

Funny enough there's no way all you mentioned (which are the Pillars of Winners Chapel),will be preached without preaching Holiness, repentance and restitution, that they so much shout about.

They want it preached, but after hearing it, they go home and continue in their sins S tho it was never preached.

Financial Fortune is the focus for this month, but Yesterday, my Resident pastor, preaching financial fortune hinged so much on the things that will make us not be financially empowered by God. You want to prosper as a Christian? Don't do these;

1. Stealing (He emphasized on stealing as tho the message was about stealing)
2. Lying in business.
3. Cheating others.
4. Not paying those who work for you.
5. Refusing to pay your debts.
6. Giving and taking bribes.
7. Being stingy both to God, your parents and everyone around you.
8. Ungratefulness to God.
9. Unfaithfulness in tithing.
10. Idleness/laziness.
11. Lack of diligence.
12. Poor saving culture.
13. Lack of faith in God (Doubting)

These were the subtopics he dwelled on. But, the Message was 'Financial Fortune'

Anyone who heard 'Financial Fortune' and walk passed will conclude they're talking about prosperity, not knowing that it's much more than that.
What pillar?
Re: Is She Saying The Truth About Winners Chapel by jesusjnr(m): 10:15am On Aug 15
Anas09:

People are preaching the gospel of the Kingdom, this thief is everywhere throwing his demonic spitttle. Geraut Nicolai.
The gospel of mammon you mean?

Compare the Words of Jesus and the teaching of the prophet of mammon you worship and you should be able understand the difference for it's stark, only that you have been blind to the Truth by witchcraft.

You can start using this teaching of Jesus about blessings.

jesusjnr:

Luke 11:28 (KJV)

But he said, Yea rather, blessed are they that hear the word of God, and keep it.
{John 1:1}
Re: Is She Saying The Truth About Winners Chapel by Anas09: 10:16am On Aug 15
LordReed:


This is called equivocation, nowhere was it claimed that the gospel is not being preached. I attend Winners every Sunday and I am in agreement with her assessment. There was a broadcast this past Monday, was heaven, hell or rapture mentioned during the broadcast?
So, if heaven and hell were not mentioned on Monday that means they are not mentioned in LFC?
And LordReed, aren't you an atheist? Or you go to LFC to gather what you'd use as arsenals against the Church?

Well, i am a Word based Faith Based believer who hated LFC dearly until I got close. Today I repented of my stance and asked God to forgive me.

In the passed, I critiqued men of God I don't agree with their ministry or their administration, not realizing that the Holy Spirit gives the same gifts to the different people but the Administration of those gifts are different. But, now I know why different ministries carry out their mandates differently.

Today, I understand why there are many denominations in the body of Christ, that's because I now understand why the Church is called 'A body'. The hands has their duties, even in the hands, there're fingers functioning differently. There're finger nails performing a duty in the body. so does the head, the legs, the mouth, eyes, nose, teeth, tongue, lungs, liver, heart, kidney, stomach, diff. bones etc.

Only an ignorant man wld expect the head to act like the legs, or the lungs to act like the toes. These all function together to keep the body alive and going.

Oyedepo has his mandate, Kumuyi has his. If anyone expects Oyedepo to leave his calling to do Kumuyi's calling, it'll be like telling the hand to leave putting food in the mouth and put it into the ears.

Enough said.
Re: Is She Saying The Truth About Winners Chapel by Anas09: 10:17am On Aug 15
CodeTemplar:
What pillar?
This month's Financial Fortune.

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