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Re: Nephilim And Sons Of God: Who Are They? by MuttleyLaff: 3:21pm On Oct 04, 2019 |
EMILO2STAY:I have given up on you a long long time ago even before when I earlier asked you to provide proof beyond reasonable doubt and with chapters and verses, but you've woefully been unable to say and show where or how you made out that sons of God are and/or equates to angels. You then prevaricated and ducked the request, before developing the gall and cheek to be contesting that Cain's descendants are not the sons of men and/or daughters of men. Unless you respond, you arent ever going to live this down |
Re: Nephilim And Sons Of God: Who Are They? by budaatum: 3:22pm On Oct 04, 2019 |
EMILO2STAY:Best thing to do when he refuses to use his brain. 1 Like |
Re: Nephilim And Sons Of God: Who Are They? by EMILO2STAY(m): 3:27pm On Oct 04, 2019 |
MuttleyLaff:mtchewww!!!! |
Re: Nephilim And Sons Of God: Who Are They? by MuttleyLaff: 4:34pm On Oct 04, 2019 |
EMILO2STAY:Lol, smh look at someone who believes angels had sexual intercourse with female human beings doing mtchewww, letting that shameless and confused baba/mama be egging him on and encouraging him to remain languishing as an ignoranus. Unless you provide the proof, thats beyond reasonable doubt and with chapters and verses, to show where or how you made out that sons of God are and/or equates to angels, you will never live it down. Now more frankly typing, I am embarrassed for you, because you have not the grace or humility to realize how a fool you've made of yourself on this thread, aside from taking pride and delight in your ignorances and ignoranus self |
Re: Nephilim And Sons Of God: Who Are They? by EMILO2STAY(m): 6:11pm On Oct 04, 2019 |
MuttleyLaff:mtcheww |
Re: Nephilim And Sons Of God: Who Are They? by MuttleyLaff: 6:16pm On Oct 04, 2019 |
EMILO2STAY:Mtcheww yourself |
Re: Nephilim And Sons Of God: Who Are They? by EMILO2STAY(m): 6:25pm On Oct 04, 2019 |
MuttleyLaff:you just exposed yourself for what you are, I thought you were a reasonable human being to engage not know I was talking to an unintelligent grown man. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Nephilim And Sons Of God: Who Are They? by MuttleyLaff: 7:39pm On Oct 04, 2019 |
EMILO2STAY: MuttleyLaff: EMILO2STAY: MuttleyLaff: EMILO2STAY: MuttleyLaff: MuttleyLaff: MuttleyLaff:EMILO2STAY, fyi, the internet never forgets. You did a good job of exposing yourself for what you really are. An ignoranus, pompous self opinionated so and so. |
Re: Nephilim And Sons Of God: Who Are They? by budaatum: 8:02pm On Oct 04, 2019 |
This thread shows how some will insist that their own belief is the only correct opinion out of all the opinions that may possibly exist on a subject. For those who may learn, as opposed to those who's desire is to believe, wiki has compiled various opinions on Nephilim for your consideration. 1 Like |
Re: Nephilim And Sons Of God: Who Are They? by MuttleyLaff: 4:49am On Oct 05, 2019 |
budaatum:"From the above, at least Book of Enoch 9:1-11 quote for starters, and according to Enoch, Michael and three other archangels, accused Semjaza and Azazel of going into the daughters of men upon the earth, and sleeping with the women, but on the flip side and according to Peter's testimony, angels (i.e. Michael, Uriel, Raphael and Gabriel etcetera) do not dare bring accusations as ludicrous as this against each other celestial beings, and even Jude added that, Michael would not dare accuse the devil himself. So, in short, and on the strength of the assertions of Peter and Jude, the story, in the Book of Enoch 9:1-11, of Michael, making an accusation against those two angels is false. Now, if the story of the accusation is false then equally false so, is the story of the angels' sexual sin. The evidence is piling up against the Book of Enoch to be a best-selling work of fiction of a first century "Dan Brown" The Book of Enoch is littered with so many Book of Enoch 69:2-10 mumbo-jumbo that are readily and easily observed, noticed and/or seen Did you further notice, what Jude said about these men, in Jude 1:10 that, "Whatever these people do not understand, they slander. " and that "Like animals, which are creatures of instinct, they use whatever they know to destroy themselves, they do whatever their instincts tell them, and so they bring about their own destruction." Fyi, circulating stories that nephilims being angels, celestial beings, had sexual intercourse with female human beings? Compare with 2 Peter 2:12 budaatum, did you notice how Jude or Peter, never quoted anywhere in the Bible, like Genesis, for instance, of any example of any angel(s) sleeping with women? budaatum, you asked me the question "What was Jude saying, and is it what I said below or not?" so, let me put my cards on the table, straight open face up with these, as in what you did not say. You didnt say, like I've said that: 1/ Angels are not what are called the sons of God 2/ Angels did not have sexual intercourse with female human beings 3/ Angels did not marry the daughters of men" - Re: Book Of Enoch Reveals So Much. It's So Unbelievable! by MuttleyLaff: 4:42am On Oct 05 2019 https://www.nairaland.com/5448144/book-enoch-reveals-much-unbelievable#82849084 |
Re: Nephilim And Sons Of God: Who Are They? by budaatum: 8:58am On Oct 05, 2019 |
MuttleyLaff:Sorry muttley, but there's no way I'm digging through that for the answer to the simple question I asked. When you do bother to answer it, hola buda. |
Re: Nephilim And Sons Of God: Who Are They? by MuttleyLaff: 9:11am On Oct 05, 2019 |
budaatum:You don't disappoint. There after all is only one budaatum. Only one and one 9 out 10 always true to nature. budaatum, in answering your question the short way, you want it, you said what Jude was saying, but ironically stopped short. You didn't continue on with what Jude was saying about false teachers have crept in and crept in with made up stories, accusing celestial beings with slanders, like sleeping with female human beings. |
Re: Nephilim And Sons Of God: Who Are They? by orisa37: 9:47am On Oct 05, 2019 |
They are all God, The Supreme Spirit, The Whole and The Amoebic Atoms in The Whole. Are you jealous? Only God, Himself, is jealous. |
Re: Nephilim And Sons Of God: Who Are They? by budaatum: 10:35am On Oct 05, 2019 |
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Re: Nephilim And Sons Of God: Who Are They? by MuttleyLaff: 12:08pm On Oct 05, 2019 |
budaatum:budaatum, in answering your question in the short way, you want it done, it is true, you said what Jude was saying, but you ironically stopped short. You didn't continue on with what Jude furthermore was saying about false teachers that have crept in and crept in with made up stories, accusing celestial beings with slanders, like sleeping with female human beings. |
Re: Nephilim And Sons Of God: Who Are They? by kkins25(m): 2:53pm On Oct 05, 2019 |
MuttleyLaff:Who can challenge the metatron of God himself? Surely you hold all understanding hidden to us "common sons of God". Do burden me with how the miracle of jesus christ came about. What makes jesus "gene" different? Does thou proclaim that jesus genetic material would differ scientifically from those of common man? If I carried out a PCR analysis on jesus christ and compare his dna with dat of his mother using BLAST- I would find considerable, mind boggling Dna? And how then did this 'foreign' Dna get attached to jesus? Considering your comments on affairs between angels and humanity, and miracle are simply a novel idea, can humanity now carry out this miracle with respect to you definition of miracle? |
Re: Nephilim And Sons Of God: Who Are They? by MuttleyLaff: 9:04pm On Oct 05, 2019 |
kkins25:No man is an island of knowledge kkins25. Your money, on this one, is not valid. kkins25:Are you wining me kkins25, because I for one and personally know, I hold no all understanding. As a matter of fact, knowledge is learning something new every day and I am yet to meet anyone so ignorant that I couldn't learn something new from kkins25:The miracle, is a once and for all, not to be replicated miracle. I am sure you know about "monogenes" having two primary definitions, as in, "pertaining to being the only one of its kind within a specific relationship" and "pertaining to being the only one of its kind or class, unique in kind". Something close to it, is the miracle birth of Isaac, who was born in spite of menopause and impotence setting in kkins25:The difference is Jesus Christ was birthed without any earthly father. This way, the sin gene, inherited from earthly fathers, was not passed down to Jesus Christ. kkins25:Affirmative kkins25, yes I do proclaim that Jesus' genetic material and/or genetic make up, even His blood type sef, would differ, as it does do differ, scientifically from those of common man's. kkins25:Affirmative kkins25, yes, if you carried out a PCR analysis on Jesus Christ and compare His DNA with that of his mother using BLAST, you would find considerable, mind boggling DNA about Jesus that His Blood type is AB+ve, which of course, you know, is considered a universal recipient, meaning He can receive from all blood types (i.e. namely O+ve, O-ve, A+ve, A-ve, B+ve, B-ve, AB+ve & AB-ve) kkins25:kkins25, how then did this 'foreign' DNA get attached to Jesus is the stuff that miracles are made of. Isnt it amazing that the percentage of the population that has AB blood type, is in the single digits, hmm? kkins25:kkins25, every day we are engaged in miracles which we don't even recognize, so please, fyi, miracles arent at all simply a novel idea. Now, another fyi, is that, even miracles have their own rules they abide to too, miracles have their limits, time and place kkins25. Miracles are bound by rules kkins25 and will only occur within the confines or boundaries of these rules. Of course, only God, is an exception to whatever the rule is. kkins25:If the situation and/or a condition that causes a miracle to occur are strictly met, of course, why not, humanity can carry out whatever the miracle is, inasmuchas with respect to what the definition of miracle is. |
Re: Nephilim And Sons Of God: Who Are They? by EMILO2STAY(m): 12:26pm On Oct 06, 2019 |
MuttleyLaff:you still get mouth. I gave you scriptures proving the sons of God to be angels. Were is your own proof that those sons of God mentioned in genesis and job were not angels but mortal men? Were is your proof?!!!!??. I have given you proof beyond reasonable doubt. the ball is in your court, it is time for you to play. But instead you keep ranting carlessly. Again I said were is your proof. Bring it on am waiting. 1 Like |
Re: Nephilim And Sons Of God: Who Are They? by MuttleyLaff: 1:05pm On Oct 06, 2019 |
EMILO2STAY:Ah, EMILO2STAY has suddenly found his voice. EMILO2STAY, I know you understand and/or realise I've set an envelopment for you, when I originally, a long long time ago, asked you to provide proof beyond reasonable doubt and with chapters and verses proving the sons of God to be angels, but you refused to bite the bait and get snared, so you woefully failed to say and show where or how you made out that sons of God are and/or equates to angels. You prevaricated and ducked the request, before developing the gall and cheek to be contesting with me, that Cain's descendants are not the sons of men and/or daughters of men. I have said this before that, unless you respond, you arent ever going to live this down. EMILO2STAY, why dont you just provide proof beyond reasonable doubt and with chapters and verses proving the sons of God to be angels, to see whether or not I wouldn't educate you with proof that those "sons of God" mentioned in Genesis and Job were not angels but were mere mortal humble men. As a matter of fact, the "sons of God" in the Book of Job are humbler than the "sons of God" in the book of Genesis. EMILO2STAY, you MUST to allow me to minister to you on this matter, in a brief and clearly expressed manner, provide proof beyond reasonable doubt and with chapters and verses proving the sons of God to be angels, then I will set about let you know the truth, the truth that shall set you free, give you healing and deliverance from that lie from the pit of hell that the "sons of God" are angels. EMILO2STAY, try provide proof beyond reasonable doubt and with chapters and verses proving the sons of God to be angels here, to see if I wouldnt play ball with you. |
Re: Nephilim And Sons Of God: Who Are They? by OkCornel(m): 6:42pm On Oct 06, 2019 |
For those you claiming the Sons of God are men from the lineage of Seth, Are those same men also the sons of God that presented themselves before God in the book of Job? Job 1 v 6-8; 6 Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan came also among them. 7 And the Lord said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the Lord, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it. 8 And the Lord said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant Job, that there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil? Job 2 v 1-2 1 Again there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan came also among them to present himself before the Lord. 2 And the Lord said unto Satan, From whence comest thou? And Satan answered the Lord, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Nephilim And Sons Of God: Who Are They? by MuttleyLaff: 7:51pm On Oct 06, 2019 |
[img]https://s1/images/stirringMuttleylaff.gif[/img] Smh. |
Re: Nephilim And Sons Of God: Who Are They? by OkCornel(m): 8:30pm On Oct 06, 2019 |
Jude 1 v 6; 6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day. Now further questions for those proposing the sons God to be either the Sons of Seth abi Cain? 1) Which angels was Jude referring to in verse 6, and when did they leave their first estate? 2) If you say it is those angels that rebelled alongside Lucifer, shouldn't they all be in everlasting chains right now awaiting judgement? Shouldn't this earth be free from demons and evil spirits? 1 Like |
Re: Nephilim And Sons Of God: Who Are They? by Maamin(m): 8:30pm On Oct 06, 2019 |
I remember sometime last year where I discussed this very issue of sons of God with MuttleyLaff in a different thread. With all evidence from Genesis 6:2 , Job 1:6-8, Job 2:1-2, Jude , 2 Peter ..and Even BOOK Of Enoch. I think it's only pride and self indoctrination that will make one to claim that the sons of God are not angels. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Nephilim And Sons Of God: Who Are They? by OkCornel(m): 8:40pm On Oct 06, 2019 |
Maamin: No be today we dey see all those kain displays from that dude... 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Nephilim And Sons Of God: Who Are They? by MuttleyLaff: 8:02am On Oct 07, 2019 |
Maamin: MuttleyLaff:Smh, lol, my long lost very good "customer mi, daada ni". It is true that sometime last year around September, if I recall correctly and early this year February, I did, at least that twice, engage you, on the subject matter of "sons of God" mistaken for angels, Nephilims etcetera. On each of those two occasions, you were blindly and poorly arguing that angels have sexual desires. You were mistaking Nephilims in Genesis 6:2-4 and elsewhere, like in the book of Job, to be angels. You did your disappearing AWOL act after trying to obfuscate the topic with bringing in the witch of Endor and Prophet Samuel's dead spirit. Smh I informed you then that angels are celestial beings, who only take on appearance of human forms when on assignment from God. Except being on official assignment, celestial beings never take on form that look or resembles human beings. I further mentioned that, it is part of the reasons, why no one has ever seen physically Satan or physically seen a demon. Maamin, should in case you've forgotten. I expressly repeat here again for your attention that, only human beings are given the mandate to procreate, and never celestial beings, also known as, angels are granted that privilege Maamin, Maamin, Maamin, how many times did I call? Lol, nvm. Read the last sentence in your comment and please tell me if its not a reflection of you. Fyi, I am conversing with nijabazaar at the moment on this same subject matter, why not keep your eyes and ears open, as you will learn something from my interaction with him. Lol. None of you guys have the chutzpah. Nine out of ten of y'all, can't even swallow, stomach and retain my tough and hard good bullshits, let alone stand head-to-head with me on this subject matter. See, I gave the go-ahead to shine like a star to "you-know-who", told "you-know-who" to go open a thread, send me an invite notification to come join and trash out the genuineness or not, of the Book of Enoch together, but did "you-know-who" create the thread and be willing to go toe-to-toe with me on it?. Of course not, "you-know-who" couldn't and wouldnt, because "you-know-who" developed stage fright from knowing what will come of it, it will be the death and end of the truth, diluted with lies, "you-know-who" learned and have enjoyed to believe. Maamin, truth is more valuable if it takes you a few years to find it. Even if you know a thousand things, ask the man, somebody like me, who knows the one thing on the "sons of God" you don't know about. Never underestimate someone because you never know what true knowledge about the "Holy Grail" meaning of the "sons of God" information, they might be holding in Now watch and learn Maamin. Take it, as an unexpected learning opportunity and thank nijabazaar later for it. https://www.nairaland.com/5450889/why-book-enoch-removed-bible/1#82913164 |
Re: Nephilim And Sons Of God: Who Are They? by OkCornel(m): 8:24am On Oct 07, 2019 |
OkCornel: See how someone has typed plenty words without addressing these posers from Jude 1 v 6. Smh... |
Re: Nephilim And Sons Of God: Who Are They? by MuttleyLaff: 8:28am On Oct 07, 2019 |
Talk to the hand |
Re: Nephilim And Sons Of God: Who Are They? by OkCornel(m): 8:38am On Oct 07, 2019 |
Enoch Chapter 15 v 1-7; 1 And He answered and said to me, and I heard His voice: 'Do not be afraid, Enoch you righteous man and scribe of righteousness. 2 Approach and hear my voice. Go and say to the Watchers of heaven, for whom you have come to intercede: "You should intercede for men, and not men for you." 3 Why and for what cause have you left the high, holy and eternal heaven, and had sex with women, and defiled yourselves with the daughters of men and taken to yourselves wives, and done like the children of the earth, and begotten (as your) sons? 4 Though you were holy, spiritual, living the eternal life, you have defiled yourselves with the blood of women, and have begotten children with the blood of flesh, and as the children of men, you have lusted after flesh and blood like those who die and are killed. 5 This is why I have given men wives, that they might impregnate them, and have children by them, that deeds might continue on earth. 6 But you were formerly spiritual, living the eternal life, immortal for all generations of the world. 7 Therefore, I have not appointed wives for you; you are spiritual beings of heaven, and in heaven was your dwelling place. Luke 20 v 34 - 36; 34 And Jesus answering said unto them, The children of this world marry, and are given in marriage: 35 But they which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that world, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage: 36 Neither can they die any more: for they are equal unto the angels; and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection. 1 Like |
Re: Nephilim And Sons Of God: Who Are They? by EMILO2STAY(m): 9:47am On Oct 07, 2019 |
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Re: Nephilim And Sons Of God: Who Are They? by EMILO2STAY(m): 9:49am On Oct 07, 2019 |
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Re: Nephilim And Sons Of God: Who Are They? by EMILO2STAY(m): 9:51am On Oct 07, 2019 |
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Re: Nephilim And Sons Of God: Who Are They? by EMILO2STAY(m): 9:53am On Oct 07, 2019 |
MuttleyLaff:Its a pity you either lack understanding or your just pretending the burden of proof lies with me. Oga i have done my part i am still waiting for you to do yours ever since we started this debate. Pls and pls stop typing many words, just go straight to the point. If you mention me again without putting up the so called proof you have i will not indulge you again on this. 3 Likes 1 Share |
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